LAST WEDNESDAY EVENING IN ARMAGH CATHEDRAL THE ARCHBISHOP – EAMON MARTIN SAID THAT HE AND RCs ARE BEING PERSECUTED IN IRELAND FOR THEIR FAITH AND WILL BE PERSECUTED MORE IN THE FUTURE !!!
He cited Ireland’s new secularism and materialism and the recent Irish votes for equal marriage and abortion.
I’m afraid that Amy has no grasp of history.
Ireland was colonised by two foreign forces – the British Empire and the Roman Catholic Church.
The Brits came in the 12th century under the leadership of Strongbow – and at the request of an Irish king who was fighting with he fellow kings and chieftains.
But the Romans – I mean the Roman Catholics – were hear hundreds of years before the Brits.
The Brits stole our lands and our language.
The RCs stole our hearts and our souls.
We have gotten rid of the Brits from the 26 counties.
And modern Ireland is in the process of getting rid of the RCs – and people like Eamon Martin.
The drop in Mass attendance and the very powerful recent referenda in which the Irish People said a massive NO to the RC institution, its teachings and its dogmas – is a clear sign that the RCs have been served their P45 by the Irish people.
When the Brits left the bishops and clergy became the new overlords. London rule was swapped for Roman Rule.
And the unionists in the North were right when they said: “Home Rule means Rome Rule”.
From 1922 the Irish Catholic Hierarchy had most Irish politicians under their thumb – with the honourable exception people like Dr Noel Brown – whose ministerial career was brought to and end by Archbishop John Charles McQuaid of Dublin.
The then Taoiseach said: “I am a Catholic first and a politician second”.
The Bishop of Cork – Dr Lucey said: “Even in political matters the Bishops are the final arbiters”.
They even played a major part in writing the Irish 1937 Constitution – which the Irish people are changing election by election, referendum by referendum.
Millions and millions of Irish people lived and died believing they were going to Hell for one act of masturbation, for having sex outside marriage, for being gay, for marrying Protestants etc.,Β
They imprisoned our unmarried mothers in Roman Catholic gulags.
They incarcerated our children in their homes and orphanages, where they starved, beat and raped them.
They banished public sinners and religious dissidents to Evil England.
They controlled hospitals, maternity clinics, labour wards, schools, colleges, universities etc.,
They stole babies and sold them to good Catholics in the USA and Australia.
They tortured and starved little babies and buried in septic tanks.
Priests roamed the roads beating courting couples with blackthorn sticks.
Eamon, you a descendent of the moral and physical persecutors of the Irish people.
Eamon, you are the successor – not of the Apostles – but of the abusers.
And after 1600 years of Roman Catholic invasion and torture the Irish people are calling time on you.
If you are persecuted – and I don’t wish persecution on you – it is Karma – and what has gone around has come back around.
Get used to being an organisation like a golf club – a private members club with no influence.
Your glory days are over.
And as the Chinese say:
You, Eamon, are accursed to be living in interesting times!
93 replies on “EAMON MARTIN SAYS HE AND RCs ARE NOW PERSECUTED IN IRELAND !!!”
THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE EVEN IF THE TRUTH IS REVOLTING….
Bucko de only thing revolting is your BLACK heart and SOULESS being.Karma has finally caught up with you this side of humanity.Your a disgrace & embarrsement to ALL good catholics.I hope the coals are extra warm when your gone.Such a waste of a foetus!
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The words of a “good Catholic” π
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Whilst I agree with your take on th RC church, your slant on England is uncalled for.
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What slant do you mean?
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Ahhh! Poor Eamon is playing the martyr card. Oh, the self-conscious melodrama of the man!
He’s very sensitive, isn’t he? Eamon? I mean: ‘EXteeemly sensitive’.
Are you telling us more about yourself, Eamon, than you’d intended? π¬
(Just wonderin’, like. π)
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12.46: Magna – you mean “extremely” not “exteemly” – isn’t drink such a bitch!! Find your goodness and soul.
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Er, the ‘bitch’ here would appear to be Eamon. π
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Buckley, what shallowness of thought! What banality! What a pathetic, empty start to your Advent! You’ll undoubtedly preach nice words in Larne but not one of those words will come from a pure heart, close to Christ. You are so consumed by vengance and hatred that God’s love cannot break through your rock hard heart. You need renewal. You need change. You need God’s graces. You need a conscience. You need to PRAY…
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Corruption/abuse enabler?
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Same old shit response when challenged.
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Not shit. Let people address my arguments and historical points.
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Pat, here we go again. Repetitive narratives. Archbishop Martin is right but we know for so long the tide is turning against the Church. We are attempting to respond to new realities and challenges. Your sneering delight at the challenges faced, your ridiculing off all for whom you have deep disdain and your unnecessary harrassing of Archbishop Martin and others is outrageous. Yes, let’s have a grown up, intelligent dialogue, not the nasty, vengeful behaviour you engage in. It’s so spiritually impoverished that on the First Sunday of Advent, you have nothing worthwhile to give us to nourish our inner spirit. Sad, awful and shameful. Indicative of a sickly spirit within you.
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Corruption/abuse enabler?
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8.27: At Last criticism is getting to your brain. All you can respond with is your mantra. Who’s appalling. Quite infantile. Intellectually defunct – like your morality and spirituality. You are a co-abuser in the way you subject peoplec to public humiliation without their consent. You cross boundaries. You are scum. No Christ in you.
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Answer my points about the historical and on going corruption in the RC junta.
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You Buckkey are a corrupter of morals in your woolly, makey up theology and spirituality. You are an abuser of priests – emotionally and spiritually. You are an enabler of hatred, bias and nastiness through your words. You have lost your soul in the pursuance of vengance.
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A ‘corrupter of morals’, 3:19? π
Wouldn’t this be the Roman Whore? The one you serve rather than Christ?
Isn’t this the diabolical assembly that swept aside Jesus’ teaching on unconditional and indiscriminate love to approve morally the death penalty?
How many souls have been corrupted by this corrupt, traditional teaching? How many souls have damned themselves because of it?
And how many lives in the womb have suffered vile, physically dissembling death because this whore wilfully refused to follow the one she claimed to serve by denying the eternal dignity and inviolability of human life?
How many?
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9 19: Pat – GROW beyond your shite responses. GROW up. Ask the good Lord for help. Advent. Advent. Advent, Pat. Remember, a calling to repentance. You need it too, you fool!
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Yes, lets “offer it all up”.
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10.40: Magna, I serve Christ – no one else. I thank God for the wonderful opportunities given to me as a priest. Somehow you, as a reject, wouldn’t appreciate my work snd ministry. If you could only set aside your hatred…if only. But, thank God I meet lovely, kind, good and supportive parishioners daily. Your poisonous heart is dangerous – to yourself and others. God help you. Maybe a good confession might help heal you……
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Why do you need to ‘debate’ the corruption of the institutional Roman Catholic Church? Are you thick, or just fiendish?
What is there to debate?
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8 27: You are like a spoiled child Buckley. You have no balls. You’re not a man. Keep repeating your mantra and you’ll see it’s craziness. Hopefully you’ll see your own demented hatred. Grow up.
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Just name calling?
Answer my arguments.
Or are you just a brainwashed RC?
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9.12: Pat, You’re the one who depends on silly soundbytes. You’re the one who can’t engage intellectually. You’re the one who is ridiculous and stupid.
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10.04: Exactly Pat – offer it (your impoverishment) to the good Lord. Give him your heart and mind during Advent and perhaps a little mercy might seep into your nasty little mind. Give him your hatred and he’ll turn it into love. Give him your wounds and he’ll heal you.
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Here we go again hi. Same auld ranting. Seems to me sadly the direction of the blog is changing Perhaps a change from Wise Catholic Blogspot is called for.
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Pat, would you try to be intelligent in your responses. You should stop insulting commentators who differ from you. You are not the sole possessor of truth. You are not the only one concerned about the scandals in the Church. They effect all priests who genuinely care and who are loyal and faithful to Christ in their lives and work, many living exemplary lives in very challenging times. Your ridiculing, arrogant, dismissive attitude is repugnant. Your childish, ignorant accusation that anyone who holds a different view to you is a co-abuser org an enabler is a gross injustice. May God amount you with a spirit of truth, kindness, mercy and justice.
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You CANNOT be loyal to Christ and the RC institution at the same time.
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9.44: You Pat cannot be loyal to Christ, ever. You have too much hatred in your heart. You abandoned the Catholic Church. Thank God, I and many, many priests remain within the Church and are still loyal to Christ and his gospel because we have distilled yhe true essence of being Christ and live it to the best of our ability.
What a shame that you ridicule all before you. Yiu are so arrogantly self righteous. Maybe during advent you’ll wear the purple robes of true penance!! Your heart requires it.
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9.44: You CANNOT serious Pat! You definitely have demonstrated that you, in your new outfit outside the Catholic Church do not practice true charity in imitation of Christ any vetter than the many good priests who remain. Surely the charity, justice and compassion of Christ in our hearts are the most important qualities. Being in the Church does not prevent anyone from being a true follower of Christ. You are delusional. Your makey up theology and spirituality are self serving, as always.
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What about initating Christ in the Temple with his whip???
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9.44: The concept that you, Pat, are the only one loyal to Christ is patent nonsense. It is laughable. I know wonderfully good Roman Catholic Priests, human, sinful but who remain true to Christ, to their vocation and to their parishioners. You are not the only one with “loyalty” to Christ.
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Patsy at 9:44am
Patsy you have to be loyal to Christ and His Bride which is the One Holy Catholic Apostolic and Roman Church and not to the heretical institution set up at Larne by you.
Evviva Maria!
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9.44: At it again. Twisted logic. Arrant nonsense. Take a leaf out of Fr. Peter NcVerry’s life, that of Sr. Stan, Br. Kevin, Sr. Consilio, Jean Vanier, St. Vincent de Paul – all powerfully inspiring Catholics. No need for grandstanding. You’re delusional Pat. I’m presently listening to my colleague saying mass – 88 years of age and still greatly loyal, good and inspiring – and working faithfully. So much to give and to offer the people of God. Open your eyes Buckley.
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Reading this blog this morning, I am reminded of the Biblical verse, βFor all have sinned and fall short of the glory of Godβ. It is something for us all to remember as we enter Advent and prepare to celebrate the coming of our saviour.
Debate is very important; for instance on the words of the Pope who is reported this morning criticising homosexuality for being βfashionableβ which makes it sound as if people are choosing to be of a minority sexual identity to be βcoolβ. Iβd like to read more carefully what is said. It would be good, however, to see a debate which is careful, clear and respectful on all sides.
Surely listening is important for all of us if we are to grow in knowledge, empathy and understanding? I suspect I shall be criticised for saying what I have said, but the person who shouts the loudest or most vehemently is not necessarily right.
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10.22: You are right. Respectful debate, intelligent arguments and tolerant acceptance of different opinions will ensure balance and justice. Sadly, Pat is not capable of anything other than simple, dismissive soundbytes. You will quite likely be called an “enabler”, a “co-abuser”. Stand by your integrity, conscience and intellectual capacity – as I will do – and pray that Pat will be a more tolerant listener and show some respect for others. We need to know the truth always, but ridiculing, name calling of others, innuendo, dismissive judgments and nasty behaviour is not the way to do this.
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Why would you listen to another Priest celebrate Mass? Are you another control freak like that bucko up in Maherafelt.
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12.27: What’s the relevance of this trite, stupid question?
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11.15: I’d love to whip you Pat! I know you have fetishes… Imagine the ugliness of what I’d find….yuck!
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May he is an older disabled priest listening to hi radio
Please do not judge.
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Pat’s First Sunday of Advent – what impoverishment of spirit, of hope, of nourishment. You live in a world of selfserving delusion. Pathetic.
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Yes. Let us forget all the corruption and concentrate on the catechism.
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No, letβs focus on the corruption in the hope of putting it right but do so in a respectful way. And I include in this both those who criticise Bishop Pat and those who criticise the RC Church. I understand the pain some feel but further abuse, however justified it may feel or be, doesnβt really add to debate or promote growth, improvement or healing.
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11:57am, ‘let’s focus on the abuse’?
I take it you’re a Roman Catholic priest.
The abuse, its extent and depravity has been known for some time. So tell us: how have YOU focused on it? What have you done…bar talk about it? Have you protested publicly to your bishop under your own name? Have you done likewise with the pope?
Did you say anything, publicly (and under your own name), when Bishop Noel Treanor (Ireland’s own ‘Bishop of Bling’) alledgedly spent Β£4 million (perhaps more) rennovating/refurbishing his home, offices, and grounds (including purchasing wallpaper at Β£100 a roll and door handles at Β£250 each)?
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Bp Pat, there is no appetite for change within. Instead, it’s always about making excuses and cover up.
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Iβm 11:57. I am laughing at the way Iβve been attacked. Iβm not a priest. In fact Iβm barely a Christian, since I stopped going to Mass regularly uncomfortable about the abuse and no longer able to look my priest in the eye after he was investigated for sexual abuse. I no longer contribute financially to the Church and only attend Mass occasionally when I have to because of my work. As a survivor of familial sexual abuse who can feel filthy hands still groping around my penis and anus when I was 9 , thatβs what I do to show my anger. I hope you feel proud of your attack against me and the way you have judged me. I just prefer balance and reasoned argument without abusive unkindness. If you are a decent human being, youβll apologise or show some empathy, Magna.
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11:57, for misassuming you as a Roman Catholic priest, I do indeed apologise, since there isn’t, nowadays, an insult more damning than being associated with such a pack of irreformable moral and sexual degenerates as Roman Catholic priests. Satan himself must blush at their excesses.
As for your ‘hope’ of ending corruption in the institutional Church by being nice (‘respectful’) about it, why don’t you grow up? These parasites do NOT want to change. Any change that has occurred has been brought about, not by pricked clerical consciences, but by the shame of exposure in the media and by the threat of severe financial loss in reparation. Being nice to these bastardos just won’t cut the mustard, I’m afraid: they need to be hammered (metaphorically speaking, of course) into submission.
As for sexual abuse, I can beat you on that one: I was just six years old when that much bigger boy detained me in a barley field, landed me on my back, took out his member and… ( I assume such an intelligent fellow as you has sufficient imagination to join the dots here. π)
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She’s a midden, Bp Pat.
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Magna at 1.49: I have personally made my total disgust and complete disapproval at all abuse and cover ups known, not just to my Bishop but I also wrote to Papal Nuncios on a few occasions, and to our new Nuncio more recently. I also make my views known to parishioners, at Diocesan gatherings. There are many priests like me. We commit ourselves to ensuring our parishes are caring, safe and welcoming for all ages. We make no discrimination. We try to practicec what we believe and preach. Your efforts at constantly judging all priests is sick at this stage, unjustified and your arguments, repetitive and predictable. You need to open your eyes a little more. This morning at one of our masses, I spoke of the present crisis in the context if crisis and challenges but I do not lose hope as I know God is with those of us – and we are many – who try to live in his expectation of us, however difficult the many challenges. Screaming and shouting so abusively will certainly never achieve renewal or justice. Nor will your pathetic words ever bring healing or hope to victims. Incidentally too, as the mass was for the First Sunday of Advent and a special Family Mass, our Church was packed with all ages!! God is good. God is the one in whom I trust and hope, no some shabby bishop in Larne or a hateful specimen like you, Mags.
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βA hateful specimen β3 03pm
So these are words spoken by a so called priest.
Thank god I do not know you
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‘some shabby bishop in Larne’?
I as a ‘hateful specimen’?
‘God is good’, you say.
He obviously isn’t your role-model. π
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Archbishop eamonn is deluded. People have had enough of the corruption. Enough of the abuse. Enough of the control. Enough of the hypocrisy. Enough of the greed etc of the RC church. What idiots were we to let them get away with all of it for so long. Sorry AB Eamonn but your days are numbered. Christ’s teachings will live for ever but the RC practices and abuses have finally come to an end. And if you or the minions in Lisbreen are reading this blog (which undoubtedly you are) your attempts at censorship are just another form of coverup of your misdeeds. Do you think that Christ is proud of you and your actions? Let me answer that for you with a resounding NO.
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1.14: As long as you continue to depend on this blog for news, you’ll only ever get the same old crap. A man, a supposed bishop, full of past hurts, psychologically, emotionally, sexually and spiritually and filked with vengance, you’ll never get the full TRUTH. Ever. Pat and his band of fellow haters need to grow up and find something more useful to do. This repetitive narrative of venom against Archbishop Martin and priests is morally unwarranted and reprehensible.
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Yes, you’d like the spotlight turned elsewhere, wouldn’t you? So that these men could continue to thrive in the moral shade: in the dark?
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5.48: If you’ve been reading this blog, many others, like myself find Magna to be a hateful specimen. He rarely displays a human instinct of decency, humanity or mercy. Specimen, yes indeed. Most of us try to be humanly kind. Magna doesn’t fit the description of “being human” in the sense of kindness and empathy.
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And you, through your words, don’t ‘fit the description of’ , er, Christian. π
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Pat, your blog piece today is an extreme view, but I think that what you say is basically factual. You do omit the good achieved by the church, but you have previously admitted that you are in demolition mode. Most discouraging here are the people who judge your heart as evil and refuse to debate. They are unfortunately in denial mode.
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I don’t think it is extreme.
I think is is very strong – and the condemnation of such longstanding and systemic corruption needs to be very strong.
To say: “But look at all the good they did, is like saying that a serial killer was very good to his mother and neighbours.
There is NEVER an excuse for evil.
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3.26: A crap argument. Proving the point made by many, your hatred of the Church has blinded you morally and spiritually. There are some wonderfully good men in the priesthood who gives far more generously in service than you’ll ever do. Your hypocrisy is sickening. Utterly repugnant. Many priests express their disgust as strongly as you do. So, Stop playing the hero.
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3.26: You’re right Pat. There’s never an excuse for evil. Neither is there ever an excuse for hatred, as evident in your behaviour and attitude. Get real about yourself.
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The RC people are always saying “We hate the sin but but love the sinner”.
I deplore the corrupt institution but love the people in it – especially priests”.
I minister to priests regularly and they know this to be true.
Mind you, the ones I meet have integrity generally.
Strong challenge is one expression of love.
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Mad Magna Caca AT 8:37 PM
And you through your words are definitely not a CHRISTIAN!
Evivva Maria!
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2.45. This blog is a grace for clergymen today. They are given a glimpse of reality, and an indication of their future. They either respond respectfully to the issues raised or decide for their demise.
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Patsy at 3:47pm
Patsy I can’t agree with your statement that you minister to priests regularly. Any priest in good standing coming to you would have no integrity and would be committing a mortal sin by seeking advice from an apostate.
Evviva Maria!
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Bishop Pat doesn’t need your agreement.
Nor, I suspect, does he care what you think.
You’re a slow learner, aren’t you?
(As for priests in ‘good standing’, there are none, since each sold his soul on the day of ordination by taking a vow of obedience not to Christ, but to a corruptible human being…in a silly hat. π )
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3.24: Priests don’t depend on Pat for their moral guidance or take their lead from him in integrity. That would be a very foolish decision for any priest.
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Mad Magna Caca at 8:58
Polly, you are a slow learner or being disingenuous as usual, Patsy took vows on ordination to a man in a silly hat as you say ,the fact that she broke them say’s more about her. You yourself aspired to become a priest, but thanks be to God and His Holy Mother you were found out for what you are, and dismissed. Hence your hatred and bitterness towards Our Holy Mother The Church . There are many good holy priests who silently and for the love of God go about serving us and bringing us the Sacraments, you just never hear about them, certainly not on this blog.
Evviva Maria!
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Patsy has never taken any vow. He did take a promise of obedience to a bishop. Another bishop effectively divorced Patsy. Divorced people loose the privileges of marriage and are freed from its responsibilities. Simple.
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Interesting that quite a few priests where on early this morning attacking the blog. Some even admitted that they are priests. Maybe it’s a coincidence that a number of Armagh priests decided in the last few days over drinks in a hotel to flood the new blog with anti-Buckley sentiment. They obviously chose this morning to do it but they should be more careful in future as to is listening to them in the public bar. It’s also interesting they chose to attack the blog today criticising Eamon Martin!! The comments this morning speaks volumes and convinces me that Armagh was pivotal in removing Pats blog.
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And on Tuesday I will publish a blog about how church individuals, entities and lawyers are pressurizing a number of social media organizations, including WordPress, to silence me.
A very definite, well financed initiative has been taken by the RC church in Ireland to take all platforms away from me.
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3.55: The lady with protesters too much I think. Good, I hope you’ll be taken down. A hate inciting blog does not have any place in a decent society. TRUTH, yes, hatred, no!
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Pat, they can never take away your voice. Is this what we have really come to in the Irish RC Church? Do you still carry a protection weapon from the Police? I wouldn’t put anything past the Church in trying to silence you.
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It’s as if the Index never went away. If only as much episcopal energy had gone into dealing with the likes of Brendan Smyth ad infinitum as has gone into trying to silence Pat.
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I would put nothing past them either.
They set me up before with paramilitaries- in the 1980s.
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4.32: Pat, you have a martyr complex. It’s always someone else’s fault. You never take ownership of your own shabby behaviour, never did and never will. You blame others all the time. You were a very trucullent individual with your colleagues before. You still are an obstinate, immature, infantile person. When you accept TRUTH in its fullness, only then will you have moral probity and integrity of conscience. You are not the sole owner of conscience, truth, justice or compassion. Open your blinkered eyes.
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I was not truculent.
The priests Vincent McKinley and Joe McGurnaghan attacked me physically, emotionally and financially.
I hope they are in Heaven.
But they were two very sick characters.
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It seems Fr Gates in Magherafelt was addressing you in his weekend sermon. He said that Advent was not a time for hatred, bitterness, mockery, revenge etc. Seems Armagh is coming at you in all directions.
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7.13: And you were the third party in these unkind interactions. Come on Pat, you are not blameless in this episode. There are those of us who remember the nastiness of your own behaviour.
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Please feel free to describe what I did.
Vincent McKinley was only into feeling up girls and women. In fact St. Genevieve banned him from St. Louise’s for sexually touching girls and female teachers.
Joe McGurnaghan never did an hours work and sat in his room all tippling on his Remy Martin.
They resented my work and activities.
You would probably like to cover up for them?
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5:26, I’m afraid Gates’ words are coming not from his heart, but from another part of his anatomy.
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8.42: Magna, from the same part of the anatomy as your words emanate – your a**e!! Idiot.
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π
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67 COMMENTS
The Blogs enemies were trying to make implications from the 9 comments on the blog yesterday morning.
What are these armchair statisticians making of the 67 comments today π
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At least we can take comfort in the knowledge auntie Amy is being persecuted, Bp Pat. Apparently, she is moaning about being shouted down, despised, ridiculed, insulted, and ostracised in public discourse. Some just tell her to “go away” to your fancy man, Rory.
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9.19: You are a queenie gossipy bitch. Are you a real man – hardly with that kind of gay slang talk. You idiot. You fool. Grow up.
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Treanor and his minions are out to get you Pat. Maybe they can’t bear anymore revelations exposing them
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3.26 Pat, we cannot keep talking only about a person’s faults no matter how terrible. It’s a recipe for war not peace. Remember Jesus was scathing of the Pharisees, yet he still told us to obey what they say but don’t imitate what they do. We must keep the balance as he did.
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Jesus Christ! No, you fuckin’ arsehole! Jesus did NOT tell us to do as the Pharisees said, you moron!
You’re southern Irish, aren’t you? π
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Mad Magna Caca at12:42am
Polly your language is appalling, to use these words in the same sentence with the Holy Name tells us what I’ve always known, you are not a Christian. You’re from the Black North, aren’t you?
Evviva Maria!
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Pat, can you please address Magna’s post at 12.42, first his uncalled for language and second, who did Jesus tell the Jews to obey? Thanks
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1:23pm, er, God? π
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Reading this blog today, Iβm of the opinion most replies were made by the same poster.
He/she is doing his utmost to have yourblog removed Pat.
Letβs us pray that your voice will always heard and that all corruption within the church will be exposed right up to Rome.
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2.09 Magna, you often suggest that posters engage with the discussion rather than just smart comments. In the gospel, Jesus said, do what they tell you but do not do what they do. Who was he refering to? Straight question.
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