BISHOPS STILL DO NOT “GET IT”WHEN IT COMES TO ABUSE

I helped oversee safeguarding in England and Wales. I wonder if some bishops ‘get it’

by Danny Sullivan – Catholic Herald
I witnessed the complacency of Church officials at first hand

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When Pope Francis wrote his recent letter on abuse to the world’s Catholics, the BBC interviewed a survivor in the United States. Asked what she thought of the letter, she replied “nothing”, as it only contained words and proposed no actions. “I have no faith in the Church any more,” she said, “but I still have faith in God. And I know the difference.”
This was a devastating judgment on Church leaders who, even after all these years, fail to meet abuse survivors face to face and take action against those who have covered up crimes, putting the reputation of the institution before the criminally destroyed childhood of victims.
Recently the bishops of England and Wales announced that they had asked the National Catholic Safeguarding Commission (NCSC) to commission “an entirely independent and comprehensive review” of safeguarding.  Cardinal Vincent Nichols will give evidence to the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) on December 13th.
These are welcome developments, but it would be unwise for Church leaders in England and Wales – and, indeed, Scotland – to stand back from the current global abuse scandal as if all were well here.
I served as chairman of the NCSC from 2012 to 2015. The commission is an independent body working within the Catholic Church in England and Wales. In that role I recognised some good safeguarding practice, in particular the work of diocesan safeguarding coordinators. But what I experienced led me to ask if some leaders still don’t “get it” when it comes to abuse.
For example, one bishop declined my request to meet the mother of a teenager who was groomed and abused by his parish priest, because his lawyer had advised him not to. An archbishop decided not to meet an abuse victim because he had been advised the person was “mad”. Another bishop appointed a diocesan safeguarding coordinator who did not fulfil the agreed national criteria for the role. When I raised this with the bishop, he simply ignored my concerns. One missionary order to this day will not meet survivors of abuse in one of their schools, failing to support them and their families.
Understandably, some victims regard these kinds of actions as “secondary abuse”.

In his letter to Catholics, Pope Francis described Church leaders who fail to engage with survivors and support them as spiritually arrogant. Words without actions are empty, and abuse victims continue to make this clear.
Will they ever be heard? One doubts it, given the continuing scandals and the effort it takes to remove bishops or heads of religious orders who have made protecting the Church’s reputation their priority.
Following the IICSA report on Ampleforth and Downside, a representative of the Benedictines apologised to victims, but made no offer to meet them or give their families support. Ampleforth is still not trusted by the Charity Commission to oversee safeguarding on its own. I believe that if the Benedictines are unable to reform their safeguarding procedures, then the schools should close.
Only radical action will change the context of the continuing scandal. The following should be considered:
■ Pope Francis should remove responsibility for abuse cases from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which has failed to process cases swiftly enough, and give it to local bishops’ conferences. They should set up investigating panels including lay canon lawyers and abuse survivors. They should be able to discipline – and dismiss – bishops and other leaders. They would send their decisions to the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors in Rome, which would then confirm the decision to the Pope or seek further clarification. This would give the commission the authority and power it currently lacks.
■ Every bishop and leader of a religious order should invite every abuse victim in their communities to meet them, so that they can apologise to them and offer appropriate support. Anyone who declines to do so should be required to resign.
■ The Pope should remove the arcane distinction between bishops and heads of religious orders which has allowed some bishops to claim they can do nothing about allegations of abuse by Religious, leading some leaders of orders to behave as if they were untouchable. Religious should be placed under the jurisdiction of the president of the bishops’ conference. The president should be able to call to account any missionary or religious order in the country.
Sadly, even if these proposals were implemented, it would be already too late for those who have killed themselves, or who are a long way from faith in the Church and, indeed, in God. The leaders of our Church are largely responsible for this.
In 2014, I took two survivors to meet Pope Francis in Rome. At Mass, he explicitly named the experience of victims: for some suicide, for others alcohol and drug addiction, for others still an inability to make or sustain relationships or alienation from the Church.
I have yet to hear a bishop or religious superior in this country talk in such a moving and direct way about survivors’ lives. But it is never too late to try.

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Danny Sullivan is a former chairman of the NCSC and was a member of the McLellan Commission in Scotland from its inception in 2014.

PAT SAYS:

Danny Sullivan is right, Many bishops everywhere do not get it when it comes to abuse and many of those who do not get it – do not want to get it!

RC bishops have been formed and trained to put the RC institution and its interests before all else – even before children that are raped by priests.

To them the greatest sin is to be “disloyal” to the institution that gives them power, wealth, influence – and above all else a massively inflated view of how important they are.

Hence, when a bishop receives a report of a child being abused – or a report of a priest being sexually active – he contacts his lawyers – instead of going to his chapel and asking Jesus Christ to help him deal with the matter openly, honestly, compassionately in line with the teachings of the New Testament.

Such a bishop has two books on his desk – the Bible and the Code of Canon Law. RC bishops think more of canon law than they do of scripture.

The only way that bishops will be forced to change is when they see one of their episcopal colleagues going into prison in handcuffs.

They will then act – not because it was right – but to save their own sweaty necks.

I was delighted to see the police and the state troopers in Texas force their way into Cardinal Di Nardo’s house and remove all his files and his three computers. That’s the only language that these boyos understand. Hit them with the full weight of the police, the prosecutors and the prison service.

We look forward to the day when an Irish bishop has his house raided and is led away in handcuffs by the Gardaí or the Police Service of Northern Ireland.

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55 thoughts on “BISHOPS STILL DO NOT “GET IT”WHEN IT COMES TO ABUSE

  1. I should love (indeed, rejoice!) to see every Roman Catholic bishop (including the fat, two-faced Latino, Pope Francis) being led, in hancuffs, to serve a prison sentence. To see every one of these perverted Christ-betrayers behind bars and at the mercy of prison ‘nonces’ would be an inexpressible pleasure. 😆
    Jeez! It would be better than an orgasm! 😲
    What do YOU think, USELESS Bellarmine.? 😆😆

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    1. 12.21: The questions you should ask Magna should be addressed to yourself. What use am I to society or to anyone? Do I provide anything meaningful or worthwhile apart from hateful wirds? And look seriously in the mirror, provided it doesn’t crack with the ugliness reflected, when you ask these relevant questions. It might inaugurate the new beginning of a growth in human decency! We await the miracle….

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      1. Indeed Magna does go OTT by times. But I don’t dismiss everything he says, for some of it is spot on and very appropriate; analysis, criticism and opinion.
        MMM

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    2. Mad Magna Caca at 12:2
      What do I think Polly. it just confirms what I have always known that you are a truly bitter, evil and disgusting USELESS auld Queen who betray Our Blessed Lord in every vile comment you make. Deis irae dies illa solvet saeclum in favilla How I shall rejoice when that day comes for you!
      Evviva Maria!

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      1. MournemanMichael 7th Dec 2018 — 3:58 pm

        Bellarmine I do try to refrain from ad hominem negativity, but your tedious repetitious hostility provides so little constructive comment, and is so outrageous that on this occasion I simply ask you to wise up and shut up.
        And I will not respond to you at all, for it’s useless to expect any sense from you.
        MMM

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      2. Spoken like the good institutional Roman Catholic you so obviously are, Useless Bella.
        A credit to your church. And, morally speaking, typical of it.
        (I wonder why this church is haemorraging so many of its members, and turning others away, especially the young, in abject disgust. 😆)

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      3. Useless Bella @ 5:15, no, sweetheart; you wished condemnation (evil) upon me.

        You can’t tell the truth to yourself about your own conduct, can you, moral coward? So how the hell can you ‘correct’ anyone when you are too afraid to correct yourself?😅

        Have a care, useless uneducated fool, because you are calling your evil good. To die in this state (and you ARE rather old, aren’t you, and nearer death than most?😆) means to die in self-justification (unrepentance) rather than the justification of Christ.

        And even you must know what this means for your immortal soul.

        CRIKEY! 😈

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    3. Good to see you back, MMM. 😊

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      1. Mad Mad Madnat 3:58 pm
        I would not wish an any response from you as I don’t listen to lowlifes like you. It’s strange you do not find the tedious repetitious hostility in your gilrfriend Polly’s remarks, funny that! Of course I forgot you are in The Mutual Admiration Society .
        Evviva Maria!

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      2. Mad Magna Caca at 4:14pm

        Thank you Polly, but you did ask what I thought about your disgusting rant and I complied with your request . I knew it would result in you usual abuse on my person, but I don’t care what you or your cohorts think, I will always do my best to correct you. It is my Christian duty to do so and I do so in charity, we have to love our enemy’s and you know I love you, I am always praying for you. I see your cohort MMM unfortunately has turned up again so you can stop crying now.
        Evviva Maria!

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      3. Mad Magna Caca at 4:17pm
        Thank you Polly, but you did ask what I thought about your disgusting rant and I complied with your request . I knew it would result in you usual abuse on my person, but I don’t care what you or your cohorts think, I will always do my best to correct you. It is my Christian duty to do so and I do so in charity, we have to love our enemy’s and you know I love you, I am always praying for you. I see your cohort MMM unfortunately has turned up again so you can stop crying now.
        Evviva Maria!

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      4. Mad Magna Caca 5:56pm

        Useless Polly you bring condemnation upon yourself by your vile comments, I do not need to be corrected, it’s you who do. Once again you start with your personal insults to my person saying how old I am. Patsy wont like that since she is the same age. With all the gargle you swallow you’re more than likely to choke on your own vile vomit. I would say that with your disgusting lifestyle your nearer death than most. And even you must know what that means if you die unrepentant. Remember he will come like a thief in the night, then for you the all consuming fires of hell for all eternity.
        CRIKEY!!!
        Evviva Maria!

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      5. Useless Old Bella @ 10:42, Mommie Dearest cautioned me not to talk to strange strangers, like you. But if you don’t tell, then I shan’t.😊
        My projectile regurgitations are potent stuff, dear. And I can box you some, since you’ve shown interest in the stuff.
        So Jesus is a thief! 😲 I never knew.
        But isn’t theiving sinful?
        Never mind. He’s God, isn’t he? (Or so he suggested. 😕) And can do ANYthing, can’t he? Even bend that moral rule of his, the Eighth Commandment, on stealing.😆

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  2. Fly on Th Wall 7th Dec 2018 — 8:33 am

    Words words and more words. Yr not wrong. Where are the person centred positive actions hi. The Blog has been shouting for a long time. I’m sure there are positive results somewhere. Advent might be a time to show how the blog is promoting the Kingdom an not just da biggest mouth n Ireland h

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    1. Fly on the Wall. This blog does not do Christianity. It does not do Christ. It practices everything that’s contrary to Christ. It plays God with people’s lives. It is underpinned by a spirit of evil vengance, dressed up as a search for truth and justice. I thank God that in the parish where I live I find much support, humanity, kindness and Christian compassion among the two priests and three religious sisters who unfailingly give inspiring witness to Christ – all of them over 75 years of age. I’m certain they epitomize the same commitment of the vast majority of priests and religious. The venom unleashed against such people through this blog is both morally repugnant and sinful. I suggest if people want inspiration, look to your parish community where you’ll find a true expression of Christ’s gospel among priests, parishioners and religious.

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      1. What are you doing reading the blog then if that’s how you feel? Another two faced hypocritical Priest. If your parish is thriving then where dobyoi get the time to read this blog everyday. Moron.

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      2. 9:22: ‘This blog does not do Christianity. It does not do Christ.’

        Your words. And they describe, with unfailing accuracy, the church to which you belong, fund, and defend.: the institutional Roman Catholic Church.

        The church which has raped and sodomized defencless children, concealed the crimes against them to protect its false reputation (the public lie), and looked after its clerical criminals, setting them up to reoffend against other defenceless children.

        The church whose hierarchs live sumptiously, not on their own money (because its ministers are indolent, work-shy parasites), but on donations provided by misguidedly loyal Roman Catholics, like you.

        The church whose bloated hierarchs have the temerity to suggest that certain social groups will go to Hell, while they themselves personify one of the most serious of the Seven Deadly Sins: gluttony.

        As for venom, you would probably have made the same, misguided accusation of Jesus when he described the religious authorities of his time, the Pharisees, as ‘whitewashed sepulchres’ and ‘fools’.

        You are wilfully blind, dear, a hindrance to the kingdom, and a keeper of injustice.

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    2. Mad Magna Caca at 11:21
      Drunken useless auld Polly, yes Jesus is God the second Person of The Most Blessed Trinity He did not suggest it. It is a fact. I thought even YOU would know that. As for him coming like thief in the night, that is a quote from scripture , I thought you would have known that also. Your projectile regurgitations will be potent all right 100% alcohol don’t bother boxing it, just choke on it and give us peace you cretin.
      Evviva Maria!

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  3. Another repetitive, tiresome, boring piece. And of course the demented specimen, Magna, rejoices in his hatred of all clerics. Whatever reality lies behind this name, let’s hooe it’s kept in chains. A dangerous thing spouting evil and inciting hatred.

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    1. 10.56: How presumptuous of you. I’m not a priest. Where did you get that impression. I know truth when I see it. I know genuine goodness when I see it. You obviously are the moron. More imbicilic and ignorant as you seem unable to ascertain or understand my comment of 9.22. I occasionally look inti this blog as an observer (from a very comfortable office) and I never cease to be amazed at the unintelligent, infantile comments made by people like you. Yes, the parish I belong to us wonderfully caring and vibrant. You’ll find one if you search but get someone intelligent to help you. Remove your blinkers and grow up. God bless our good priests and religious. Alleluia.

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      1. Gullible fool. 😆

        And more than worthy of your own epithets: ‘unintelligent’ and ‘infantile’.

        And if you are using your employer’s devices to ‘look into this blog … (from a very comfortable office)’, sinful into the bargain.

        And your being such a good institutional Roman Catholic. 😅

        😆

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      2. MournemanMichael 7th Dec 2018 — 4:06 pm

        Willothewisp
        While it is good you experience compassion etc from your locality/clergy, I wonder how you can logically make assumptions that the rest of the RC institution is likewise in face of worldwide contrary evidence. Or is your sheltered cocoon restricting your perceptive abilities?
        MMM

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      3. Welcome to the new Blog MMM.

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  4. Anti censorship 7th Dec 2018 — 9:07 am

    Pat you are right. These bishops should not and cannot be above the law. No one can. It is way past time to take these idiots down a peg or two. True justice involves making those who have been guilty of abuses coverupts etc accountable for their actions. Hiding behind the veil of the institution can no longer work. The victims deserve more. As this institution continues to coverup, can anyone in their right mind still say that the RC institution is Christ centred? To do so is an anaethma to everything Christ taught . This is not about scoring points against the RC Church. It is about doing what is right and decent. I note that there were many raids against the mafia in Europe several days ago. When will someone in authority have the cojones to raid the RC mafia and bring them to book. As we approach the celebration of the birth of Christ, what better way could we honour Him other than by holding these hypocrites to account for sullying His name and participating in the abuse of those wanting to follow Christ. It is way past time to get true justice for victims and get rid of these inhumane Christ betrayers

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    1. 4.06: MMM – I never suggested in my comment that the entire R. Catholic Institutional Church is similar to my experience. Every parish is different. When I talk about Church, I’m talking about the Pobal De – the people of God in the Local Christian community. Of course the Institution is in need of radical cleansing and purification. But there are undoubtedly good priests and religious, who along with parishioners give great witness to being Christ like. I never lived in nor do I presently live in any sheltered cocoon. My work does not allow such comfort! I just recognise Christian goodness when I see it and I am merely affirming that reality and my faith is important for me. You are, MMM, capable of much more intelligent commentary than this sneering piece!

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      1. ‘good priests and religious’? 😲

        How can they be good if they have forsworn Christ in favour of a vow to obey somone as worldy (and personifying ‘mammon’) as a Roman Catholic bishop?

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      2. MournemanMichael:
        Anon @ 6:46: For the sake of accuracy , may I draw attention initially to your claim @ 6:46 that you ” never suggested that the entire RC institution is similar to my experience.”
        Secondly, you claimed @ 9:22am on 7/12, after describing the humanity, kindness and Christian compassion you experience among the two priests and three religious sisters in your parish who give inspiring witness to Christ that you are: ” certain that they epitomize commitment of the vast majority of priests and religious.”
        I have put your own words in the quotes.
        While we could argue interpretations and semantics of the words ‘entire’, and ‘vast majority’, I think, in the circumstances, that my observation was relevant and appropriate.
        However I see we both agree on the need for radical cleansing and purification, …though I’d go much further than that.
        MMM

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  5. Pat Mullaney is wondering if there is an update on the planning permission being granted rehab facility planned for the graf in Maynooth?

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    1. Who’s ‘Pat Mullaney’?
      (Don’t they teach you halfwits the importance of punctuation for clarity?)😆

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    2. 8.26: Magna, since the concept of “goodness” is alien to your vocabulary and to your heart, it would indeed be very challenging for you to recognise the embodiment of such a quality in anyone. I thank God for the gifts of discernment and wisdom. May they be given to you soon.

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      1. You have the gifts of ‘discernment and wisdom’?
        Can’t say any of us have noticed, dear. 😆

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  6. Anti censorship 7th Dec 2018 — 12:10 pm

    8:58 and 9:52. Bit hypocritical don’t you think. If there’s one institution that doesn’t do Christianity it’s the institution of the RC church. If they did they wouldn’t be in the mess they are in now. They’d give up their abusers, their spendthrifts, their enablers and they’d preach loyalty to Christ and not the church. I’ve looked at my community and in the main I see people struggling to get by whilst their so called spiritual leaders, including their parish priest, living in luxury. A community without true Christian leadership. A community brought up in fear of the church. A community battered physically, emotionally and spiritually by their church yet my community is full of good people trying their best in exceptionally dire circumstances.How many of these so called pillars of virtuous priests are worried about putting a Christmas dinner on the table or having enough fuel to heat their homes over the winter? How many of these virtuoso do without because they cannot afford to live properly? Call it for what it is. It’s an institution of do as we say and not as we do. Tell me please, where is the Christianity in the Church’s actions? Holiness and Christianity is more than singing Away in a manger no crib for a bed. How bloody ironic that Mary couldn’t even find a crib for a bed when the present bishop of D and C lies in a mansion every night surrounded by his manicured lawns.Yeh right. That’s true Christianity and following in Christ’s footsteps. If this blog does nothing other than highligh this abuse and hypocrisy then it’s well worth while. But maybe somehow some of the faithful think that this is ok or do you just choose to ignore it.

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  7. Pat Mullaney delighted to see you up and running again so she is and her crying the other night in the Roost pub and the few drinks in her that she missed ye and all.

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    1. Who is Pat Mullaney?

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  8. Just a suggestion, Bishop P: why not ‘do’ a blog on Cardinal Tobin? You know: the Roman Catholic hierarch who so very selflessly allowed a young, hunky, Italian actor, with a taut rippling torso, to share his palace.

    Have just found out that a reporter got the chance to question Tobin about the matter, along with his explanation that Tobin’s controversial tweet (‘Night, night, baby. Love you.’) was for his sister, not the drop-dead gorgeous Italian hunk sharing his…whatever it was he, er, shared.

    The reporter’s ovious question to Tobin: can your sister prove what you’re saying sbout the tweet?

    Tobin’s suspiciously evasive reply: ‘I don’t have to prove anything to you.’

    Oh, dear!😟

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    1. Tomorrow 🙂

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      1. 👍

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      2. Remember, Bp Pat, you also promised to do a serialisation on +Amy, starting with her humble beginning as a penniless altar-girl.

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  9. Magna Carta's Mum 7th Dec 2018 — 6:17 pm

    Magna darling, I thought I told you to keep away from that strange Bellarmine creature? – most unChristian and frankly not our sort of person. Luckily you keep your acts of charity private, darling and don’t publish on here that you’re out every night feeding the starving and giving shelter to the homeless. It’s our little secret and Bellarmine need never know.
    By the way, darling, who is Polly?

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    1. Yes, Mommie Dearest, you did, didn’t you? 😔
      I suppose I’ll just have to be spanked again. (There’s slways a silver lining. ☺)

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      1. 6.45: Magna: Too much drink again….”always” – not slways!! Have to go back to school….

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      2. Too much drink, 9:31?
        Not enough, I should think. 🍺😆

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  10. 5.34: Magna, are you jealous that you will never have the joy/pleasure of a taut, rippling torso ever by your side? I’m sure you dream of those drop dead gorgeous Italian hunks – it’s as close you’ll get. So off to your bed with a bottle of gin….and sweet dreams. There are some who care about you!!!Hmm…Hmm…

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  11. Sorry, but do you have a stammer, 6:31? 😆
    As for seeing a ‘taut rippling torso’, EVERY time I look in my full-length, bathroom mirror, dear.
    (I do so like to pose, er, not from vanity, you understand? But to remind myself to be grateful for God’s munificence here. And boy! Have I much to be grateful for!😎)

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    1. Magna Carta's Mum 7th Dec 2018 — 8:59 pm

      Goodness Magna, darling, you are feeling frisky this evening. You know full well that the rippling torso you see in the bathroom mirror is that pin-up you have in there, darling.

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      1. No, Mommie Dearest. That pic is behind my wardrobe door, where you weren’t supposed to be.
        Naughty, Mommie! 😡
        Now I shall just have to spank you, shan’t I? 😆

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    2. 8.19. You’re obviously blind as well Magna! Magnificence – indeed – of caca! Now dearie, don’t crack the mirror.

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      1. The word is ‘munificence’, dear.
        Do learn to read. 😆

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      2. The word is ‘munificence’, dear.
        Do learn to read. 😆

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  12. 3.58: MMM – don’t be getting upset at Bellarmine. Get upset rather at Magna’s abusive rants. Bella is mild compared to that twisted goon. MMM – lighten up.

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    1. ‘Get upset’?
      Why not just chill?
      Like Magna. 😎
      😆

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    2. MournemanMichael:
      Thanks A@3:58 – No I don’t get upset: just despair at Bellarmine’s inane rants which make absolutely no constructive comment and add nothing of value. Magna, on the contrary, despite his admitted OTT rants regularly does make some very insightful informative contributions, and for the sake of those, from which I’ve learned a lot, I can overlook while not agreeing with his rants.
      In relation to Bella, I’m mindful of the psychiatric distinctions between psychosis and neurosis. While the latter patient does have some awareness of the condition and its effects on them, the former by definition of the condition, has no awareness especially in its more florid states. And that distinction too seems to apply to Bella, who appears to have no understanding.
      MMM

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  13. MMM at 3:58pm – “Magna Carta” and “Bellarmine” are exactly the same.
    The fact that “Bellarmine” annoys you – and “Magna Carta” doesn’t – is simply indicative of your own prejudice.
    Most people are thoroughly sick of these two bores.
    In fact, “Magna Carta” isn’t even an actual person but the invention of someone who obviously has an awful lot of time on his hands.

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    1. Anonymous at 10:17pm
      How dare you say I’m the same as that degenerate troll Magna, you CRETIN!
      Evviva Maria!

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  14. MournemanMichael 8th Dec 2018 — 10:27 pm

    Pat: Thank you for your earlier “Welcome back.”
    I said earlier that I preferred the former blog format which , as you replied, had let you down previously. I’ve no recollection of that in my 3-4 years following the blog.
    Anyway I find present format cumbersome and too tedious, so will only check it once a week and on the then current issue. The other factor is it’s increasing degeneration into slanging matches of no informative value.
    MMM

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