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ARCHBISHOP STOOD NAKED BEFORE BOYS AT WORLD YOUTH DAY – WHICH HAS BECOME SEX FEST FOR BISHOPS AND PRIESTS.

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Archbishop Bernard Hebda of St Paul and Minneapolis has said that until “all open allegations are resolved,” his predecessor, Archbishop John Nienstedt, is not free to exercise public ministry in the archdiocese.
Archbishop Hebda released a letter to the faithful of the archdiocese to clarify the status of the prelate. The 11-member Archdiocesan Ministerial Review Board, which addresses allegations of clergy misconduct, was consulted and recommended that Archbishop Hebda publicly clarify that Archbishop Nienstedt, like any priest facing similar allegations, is not free to engage in public ministry in this archdiocese until pending allegations are resolved.
Archbishop Hebda said he agrees with the recommendation. The restriction took effect on December 13.
“While this may cause some pain, my hope is that this decision prompts further action by those with authority over Archbishop Nienstedt to resolve this question,” Archbishop Hebda said in the letter, which also announced new steps the archdiocese is taking to minister to clergy sexual abuse survivors.
The action “is not intended to convey an indication or presumption of guilt,” Archbishop Hebda said.
The clarification of Archbishop Nienstedt’s local public ministry restrictions refers to a 2014 investigation into allegations that he had engaged in sexual misconduct with adults as a priest in Detroit and Rome, and as a bishop of New Ulm. Archdiocesan leaders engaged two separate law firms in the investigation.
Archbishop Nienstedt, who resigned his position as leader of the Archdiocese St Paul and Minneapolis in June 2015, has maintained that he is innocent of the allegations.
The investigation was forwarded to the US nunciature but has not been made public.
“As far as I know, any effort by the Vatican to further address the allegations was suspended in June 2015 when Archbishop Nienstedt resigned his office,” Archbishop Hebda said in the letter. “Thus, the matter remains unresolved for the accusers, for Archbishop Nienstedt and for the public. I share the frustration that is felt by them, and believe this situation highlights the need for a better-defined process and independent mechanism to resolve allegations against bishops.”
While the 2014 investigation involved allegations of sexual misconduct with adult males, the letter pointed out an allegation against Archbishop Nienstedt involving minors surfaced only after his resignation.
The allegation was made not to the archdiocese but to the Ramsey County Attorney’s Office. It became public in 2016 when the relevant documentation was released by Ramsey County.
At that time, Archbishop Hebda, who has led the archdiocese since Archbishop Nienstedt’s resignation, shared the released materials with the nunciature.

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According to the allegation, Archbishop Nienstedt, as bishop of New Ulm, undressed in front of two teenage boys at a hotel during World Youth Day in Cologne, Germany, in 2005. The three had been caught in a rainstorm, and, according to the allegation, Archbishop Nienstedt invited the boys to his room, where Archbishop Nienstedt undressed and then the boys undressed in front of him before putting on hotel robes as they waited for their clothes to dry.
The individual said that at the time he felt uncomfortable with the situation, and that he told his mother about it when he returned home because he thought it was inappropriate.
According to Archbishop Hebda’s letter, Archbishop Nienstedt denies the situation occurred.
The restrictions on Archbishop Nienstedt’s local ministry reflect the approach archdiocesan leaders would take with any priest facing similar allegations, Archbishop Hebda said. “My opinion is that this allegation needs to be fully addressed before a definitive resolution of Archbishop Nienstedt’s suitability for ministry can be made,” he said.
After serving as bishop of New Ulm from 2001-2007, Archbishop Nienstedt was appointed coadjutor archbishop of St Paul and Minneapolis in 2007 and became its archbishop in 2008.
He resigned in June 2015 after the Ramsey County attorney charged the archdiocese for failing to protect children in the case of former priest Curtis Wehmeyer, who has been convicted of abusing three boys in 2010-11.
When the charges against the archdiocese were dismissed in 2016, the Ramsey County Attorney’s Office publicly released documents related to their investigation of the archdiocese. Among them was a summary of a December 29, 2015, interview with an individual who described the World Youth Day situation.
In the letter, Archbishop Hebda, who has led the archdiocese since Archbishop Nienstedt’s resignation, said he has been repeatedly asked whether there are restrictions on Archbishop Nienstedt’s ministry.
“My answer has always been that although I do not know of any, I am the wrong person to ask: bishops report to the Holy Father, not to each other. I have no general juridical authority over Archbishop Nienstedt or any other bishop outside the archdiocese,” he said. “I can, however, exercise some control over the types of public ministry permitted in this archdiocese,” which led him to restrict Archbishop Nienstedt’s local ministry.
Archbishop Nienstedt has continued to exercise ministry outside of the archdiocese, most recently concelebrating the December 4 funeral of Bishop Robert Morlino of Madison, Wisconsin.
From 2016 to 2018, he was a contractor with the California-based Napa Institute. The institute announced on August 15 that the archbishop would no longer be serving it.
The local restrictions put in place by Archbishop Hebda have no effect on Archbishop Nienstedt’s ministry outside of the archdiocese.
In the Archdiocese of Detroit, where he resides, Archbishop Nienstedt, at the request of Archbishop Allen Vigneron, has already agreed “to abstain from public ministry in the Archdiocese of Detroit.”
That agreement was made public by the Detroit Archdiocese on October 24.
In a December 14 statement, Archbishop Nienstedt called Archbishop Hebda’s decision to remove him from ministry “appropriate,” given the archdiocese’s protocols, “even though I am not currently practicing public ministry in the Archdiocese of St Paul and Minneapolis.”
“I welcome an investigation into this allegation, as I have welcomed all impartial investigations into allegations made against me,” he said. “At the same time, I do deny the veracity of this allegation. That being said, I don’t want to speak poorly of the men making these accusations.”
He continued: “It’s also difficult to defend myself because these allegations are of the ‘he said, he said’ nature. It is my word against the accusers and, as much as they seem to want to discredit me, I don’t want to harm them. I am relieved, however, that Archbishop Hebda will be sharing the 2014 archdiocesan investigation to an independent review board. I welcome an impartial look at the facts and the opportunity to defend myself.”
In his letter, Archbishop Hebda emphasised his strong support for an independent, national lay-led review board to address misconduct allegations against bishops. The structure was one of the items the US bishops discussed but – at the request of the Holy See – did not move to vote on during their fall meeting in Baltimore.
“In order to fully address bishop accountability, the Church needs a national board empowered to act, much as our well-respected Ministerial Review Board has been empowered to address allegations involving our priests and deacons,” he said. “The Church cannot fulfil its mission without public trust.”
Archbishop Hebda hopes such a structure could definitively address the allegations against Archbishop Nienstedt. He said he would share the entire 2014 archdiocesan investigation of Archbishop Nienstedt with such a review board, and that until it is created, he will continue to advocate for it.
“In this way, my hope is that resolution of the allegations against bishops and any additional investigation can be handled in a way that is fair to all and worthy of public trust,” he said.
“I share the disappointment of many that more progress has not been made at the national and international levels to address bishop accountability,” he continued. “It is my prayer and hope that the February meeting Pope Francis is convening with bishops from around the world produces tangible results.
“We need a review board at the national or regional level … with the authority and credibility to investigate allegations of misconduct against bishops and make fitness-for-ministry recommendations to the Holy Father.”
Archbishop Hebda released the letter as the archdiocese nears the end of a nearly four-year process of reorganisation under Chapter 11 of the US Bankruptcy Code. In January 2015, the archdiocese filed for bankruptcy protection in the wake of mounting claims of clergy sexual abuse dating back as far as the 1940s.
In the end, 453 claims were filed against the archdiocese during the claim-filing period, most of which were related to suits brought against the archdiocese during a three-year-lifting of the statute of limitations on child sexual abuse claims in Minnesota.
In May 2018, the archdiocese announced it had reached a $210 million settlement, and the reorganisation process is expected to be completed by Christmas.
In the letter, Archbishop Hebda outlined several additional efforts the archdiocese is taking “to change the culture that fostered the clergy abuse crisis,” including a new position in the archdiocese’s Office of Ministerial Standards and Safe Environment that aims to “ensure that the voice of survivors of clergy sexual abuse will be regularly heard within archdiocesan leadership,” he said.
He also reiterated that any survivor who at any time entered into a confidentiality provision with the archdiocese is released from that provision. He also restated his willingness to meet with any survivor who would like to do so.
Archbishop Hebda also said that plans are underway in the archdiocese for “spiritual outreach” in 2019 that will “include opportunities, both at the parish and archdiocesan levels, for reparation, spiritual renewal and prayers for healing.”
Maria Wiering is editor of The Catholic Spirit, newspaper of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis.

PAT SAYS:

I think that it is fairly clear that poor Archbishop Nienstedt finds it difficult to keep his honourable member in his trousers when it comes to men and boys.

It is not satisfactory that Rome and Pope Francis have not made a decision about Nienstedt’s future. He cannot minister in his own diocese but he can minister in every other diocese in the world if the local bishop does not object. The problem is that there are men and boys everywhere and Nienstedt seems to have an addiction.

WORLD YOUTH DAY:

The RC’s World Youth Day celebrations seem to have deteriorated into a Sex Fest that allows gay bishops and priests access to young men and boys.

We know that Irish priests have been involved – one with an Armagh farmer’s son – and priests from many Irish dioceses are having gay sex at these events – especially priests from Armagh and Meath – not to mention the gay seminarians.

I doubt if the new bishop of Meath will be minded to rein in his actively gay priests.

Add to that the massive clean up of condoms from public spaces after the event.

It is also quite obvious at this stage that sex – especially gay sex – is the biggest issue facing the RC institution.

Almost every day now we hear of a new cardinal, archbishop, bishop, priest or seminarian being caught with their trousers down.

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97 replies on “ARCHBISHOP STOOD NAKED BEFORE BOYS AT WORLD YOUTH DAY – WHICH HAS BECOME SEX FEST FOR BISHOPS AND PRIESTS.”

Pat you are quite correct. Nearly everyday a new scandal breaks in the RC institution. It is riddled with so called leaders of poor moral fibre. A cancer has taken hold of this institution and no one, not even Francis, is trying to eradicate it. It has been left unchecked for so long that the institution is now dying. The RC institution is morally bankrupt and an embarrassment to Christ himself. It has been taken over by Satan. How can people continue to defend this institution? An institution that is more interested in self preservation than it is the gospel message. It is now a major charade. It has allowed its leaders to pontificate over people whilst carrying on like mafioso. The titanic that is the RC church is sinking. Trying to keep it afloat by bailing out buckets of water will not work. God is supreme. Not Francis. Francis, as the captain, is sinking with his ship

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You, like so-called ‘Catholic News Agency’, are an apologist for dirty, perverted, paedophilic Roman Catholic priests…like the kiddie-fiddler, Pell.
Catholic News Agency is sourced from…EWTN, the brainchild of that bloated paragon of unholy Catholicism, Mother Angelica. 😆

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Yes, whatever happened to that Armagh farmers Son that was propositioned by a young Armagh priest at World Youth Day? The priest still remains and Amy continues to protect? The priest in question likes the frilly lace and Tridentine vestments.

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I’ve heard more than one Meath priest describe their new bishop as “a priest’s bishop” with a genuine interest in their work and concern for them. It’s not all negative there.

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@ Amazon 9.52
As one who worked under the Arch-cynic Deenihan, trust me if what you say is true he is only warming up. He ran Cork and Ross into the ground. Johnny is only now realising how far into the ground and it is obvious that Johnny can’t repair the damage.

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Patsy at 9:54am

Patsy, you’re such a scandalmonger, with a wee touch of bitterness. I’ve never heard anything was wrong in Cork.
Evviva Maria!

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I applaud the church in their response to suspend this retired Archbishop from public ministry. I had occasion to make a report against D.Clifford for his conduct while he was Archbishop. Kevin O’Reilly replied to me saying I would needto take the matter to Rome as it happened before his time as Archbishop of Cashel and Emly.

This was an appalling response from a company man who should have known better.

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Abortion Bill signing President Higgins is the guest of honour at the carol concert (it’s not really a service) in Gaynooth college chapel on Wednesday. Mullaney and co will be all obsequious with him and all manner of people who never go to Mass are desparate to get tickets into the museum that the college chapel has become.

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Stephen will be there but his presence will be revolting however it will set him free to roam around gaynooth with Marshall as he has tickets and will be down tomorrow night for the celebrity night. Marshall is now a celeb because of you buckley.

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Mullaney turned on Marshall and interestingly is protecting Stephen Wilson. Wilson accidentally kissed Mullaney on his cheek. Wilson was so drunk and advanced on Mullaney. Mullaney’s response was shocking he just smiled and was very relaxed. Kitty Wilson.

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@10.26
Against the view that it’s not really a carol service, the following arguments may be adduced:
1. In addition to carols, there are biblical readings.
2. There is an opening prayer by a vested priest.
3. Bidding prayers are led by a deacon vested in alb, stole and dalmatic.
4. The Lord’s Prayer is said by the congregation.
5. A blessing by the presiding priest concludes the event.
What are your arguments for claiming it is not a carol service?

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People who never darken the doors, many anti-Catholic, are there for the music, sung by lay choir members, many of whom were prominent in the repeal the 8th campaign. Plus it’s mostly English Protestant Christmas carols despite it still being Advent.

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Those small religious elements are tacked on to what has become a three day concert series. Most tickets are allocated by a lottery run by the secular Music Department, not the seminary or chaplaincy or even the Pontifical University. The devout have to take their chances with those very opposed to the Church and the seminary who treat it as a big Maynooth University/Music Department event. In Ledwith’s day it was only held on one evening, there were no tickets and the music was mainly from the Advent season, at the insistence of the college Liturgy Commission which had charge of the event before the Music Department took it over.

It is a farce that the college chapel/museum is locked up and unused all year and can only be filled for carols.

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Maynooth University treats it as a big fund-raising event by inviting donors and important alumni to it and to receptions afterwards. The college chapel is degraded by these concerts.

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A vested priest and deacon? Wow! This makes all the difference.

So happy you got priorities in order here. 😆

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Will The Priests or Fr Kelly be singing at the event? Or will it just be Maynooth seminarians, the Singing Whores.

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What can you expect from Francis, the preferred candidate of McCarrick, Danneels, Murphy-O’Connor and Maradiaga.

A few weeks ago the US Episcopal Conference wanted to bring in new measures to handle episcopal abuse and the Vatican intervened directly to prevent it. Synonality only goes so far, it would appear.

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10.30 The Vatican did not prevent the action. It postponed action for 3 months to ensure consistency and conformity with the universal church’s approach in the aftermath of February’s worldwide meeting of presidents of bishops’ conferences.
Better wait another 12 weeks to get it right than to press ahead and to have to amend and emend a unilateral action.

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So a big thumbs-down to Synonality in this case. Why wait to February? Isn’t it urgent? It’s high time there was a bit of urgency, this clerical abuse cancer has ravaged the laity for decades.

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A US response was needed because of the US episcopal scandals that had long been ignored by the Vatican eg Wuerl, Law, Spelman, Weakland, McCarrick. It was top news in the US media and people were looking for a response from the American bishops. Instead Francis invited a few members of the USCCB for a photo-op before quashing the attempt to bring in controls on episcopal abuse.

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It is truly staggering that the Pope and bishops learn nothing. Every ambitious cleric thinks he can get brownie points and preferment by labelling homosexuality as a disorder from which “conversion” is the only solution. So the Diocese of Paisley led by a wanna-be Archbishop of Glasgow is pushing Courage – a quack set-up if there ever was one promoting “pray the gay away” – see Sunday Times, Attitude … . I don’t think homosexuality is the main issue in the world, as for most people now, it is simply unremarkable, so what the hell is the problem for the Church, which has quite happily come to terms with prawn cocktail ( viz. Leviticus ) and usury ( viz. natural law ) ? Well, it is all too obvious by now that the “tiny percentage” of gay men – what is it, 0.1 %, or some such nonsense according to the right wing lobby? – must be virtually all contained in the Catholic priesthood. And that these dishonest and/or disturbed men are now being shown up for the liars they are. Nienstedt like O’Brien ( a nicer and more tragic figure, I suspect ) took cognitive dissonance to an extreme by thundering against the gay agenda. Sure a case of protesting too much. And yet the creeps don’t let up. Next time you see a petition in support of the Church’s traditional teaching on wanking or whatever, just do us all a favour by posting the names on this blog so that readers can see whom they recognize – and perhaps post the truth on what Father X is REALLY like.

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Even in Niendstat had innocent motives (though hard to see any) is he that thick that he didn’t consider how it would look for an adult man to be undressing with adolescants in a hotel room. If he was worried about wet clothes he should have told a couple of lay adult pilgrimage leaders to sort it out.

It would never occur to me as a lay man to get into such a position, and the archbishop should know that clergy now are rightly required to be hyper careful in their dealings with young people.

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The incident was opportunistic, transitory. No time for prescience on Neinstadt’s part…even had he oodles of it.

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World Youth Day is an event for most Clergy who attend is regarded as a Fuckfest involving young teenagers. Just watch how the Clergy dress down for the occasion, designer gear, designer shades, hanging around for selfies, collar and jeans, pretending to be ‘with it’ and kool. It’s totally pathetic and all they want is the young lads asses. Last time Armagh and Meath Clergy were the biggest culprits. Just go to a World Youth Day event and see the amount of condoms swept up by street cleaners the next morning. Go to Lourdes every summer and see the amount of rubbers there down the meadow. Poor Eamon McCamley missed out last year.

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Totally agree 12.38pm. The WYD in Krakow was a real shocker. Grindr and other gay apps were in complete overdrive. Who was the Armagh priest inviting young lads back to his hotel for drinks and exchanging numbers??? I think even the Poles had a real eye opener in what turned out to be a festival of hedonism. Totally shocking. Booze, sex and yes Drugs. The coke dealers had a field day with the amount of clergy snorting and eating it.

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Anonymous at 12:38
I’ve never heard of this World Youth Day! thanks be to God, if what you allege is true it must be banned immediately. How on earth can these things go on? What must parents who have allowed their children to attend these events. think when they hear this. I again stress if the allegations are true, then these dreadful degenerate priests must be dismissed and the Guards informed if any of the youth’s were under age. What you say about Lourdes is also deeply distressing, I hope it is not true. The last time I was in Lourdes was 1972 I can assure you I never heard or saw anything like that then.
Evviva Maria!

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Bellarmine, are you a Priest or a lay apologist, as you’re pseudonym is Bellarmine? World Youth Day was intitated by Pope John Paul in 1985. Where have you been Bellarmine?

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During the failed papal visit to Ireland the Pope patted Marie Collins on the head and patronisingly told her that when she was next in Rome he would explain to her why it was not possible to set up a Vatican tribunal to hear allegations of episcopal abuse.

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Jesus?
But then, he wouldn’t be patronising anyone, would he?
(Unlike the oily Latino. 😆)

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Anonymous at 4:14
No you MORON! I am not a priest or a lay apologist, I have nothing to apologize for. I am a Faithful Catholic I ignore Family Days! Youth Days! or anything else the mad modernist looney’s foist on us. I just keep to what I was taught.
You however seem to know all about all that filth you were probably participating. Are you one of those priests?
Evviva Maria!

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No Bellarmine, I didn’t participate. Sorry to disappoint you. Are you with the SSPX or FSSP?

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No, you are not a faithful Catholic. Your posts lack charity, compassion, tolerance, reasonableness, courtesy…
Ok, I concede: you’re a faithful Catholic. (And how!)😆

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Anyone seen the hagiography of Kitty Drury in the Furrow, written by Paul Clayton-Lea, the Armagh priest who has taken early retirement in his 50s?

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A hagiography? I should have thought it more a panegyric, the, er, traditional genre for the lately deceased.

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Panegryrics were supposed to be banned by Vat II though you’d hardly think so at NO Requiems, during which the lately deceased is canonised and rushed through the pearly gates by the time the homily is finished.

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Anonymous at 5:50
Neither, Institute of Christ The King Sovereign Priest.
I’m glad to hear you didn’t participate, you haven’t disappointed me, but do I detect you were disappointed yourself.
Evviva Maria!

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6:50, Bellarmine, some of the posts you make do nothing to propagate the reign of Christ.
Some of your posts are very uncharitable.
Do you attend in Limerick or Galway?

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Mad Magna Caca at 10:57
Polly you could be talking about yourself, where is your charity,compassion,tolerance,reasonableness,courtesy…
Ok I concede you’re an unfaithful Apostate (And how!)
Evviva Maria!

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Hi maybe the young fella from Armagh lost his undies hi but? Deliberately like hi?
Ah mean but ye know what young fellas is like hi when they’re away from they’re Mams hi but?
And their Mams hi not there but to tell them to get washed hi and change their pants but?
So maybe hi but he was ashamed of the state of his undies hi and was afeard if his Mammy hi and made it up but that his jockies got stole hi but?

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Hold your horses, fly on the sh…;
those of us uninformed still don’t know if it was undies or boxer dogs.

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Anonymous at 5:27pm, it was both dogs and undies hi but. They were both a bit mucky though hi. The dogs weren’t housetrained hi and neither was the young fella but. Skid mark city but hi.

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Do you realise how stupid you sound you fecking idiot fly on whatever. What a fecking stupid name anyway

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Anonymous at 8:21
Neither,I support the Institute, but not being near those locations, thanks be to God I am fortunate to be able to hear Mass at St. Kevin’s Harrington St. Dublin. A beautiful Church where the liturgy and choir are sublime. And you still feel you are in a Catholic Church. I am sorry you feel I’m being uncharitable in my comments, but that’s too bad I don’t feel charitable when I’m being insulted by some of the morons on this blog so I always retaliate and am afraid always will.
Evviva Maria!

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You hear Mass, Usless Old Bella…yet you remain unaffected by your ‘priestly’ Mass, judging by the sinfulness of your posts here. 😆

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10:51 You don’t have to apologies to me Bellarmine but to Christ. Do you know Fr. Mc in Cork?
He’s a friend of Cardinal Burke?

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The dog ate the undies but hi, but the young fella hi was afeard of his Mam but hi, so he tolt her hi that the priest stole them hi but, so he did but hi.

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Mad Magna Caca at 11:19
You can’t help yourself degenerate auld Poly, you show yourself for what you are in all your posts. I never mentioned you, yet once again you insult me. I couldn’t care less what you and your likes think, it is a great comfort to know what awaits you.
Evviva Maria!

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Mad Magna Caca at 11:19
You can’t help yourself degenerate auld Poly, you show yourself for what you are in all your posts. I never mentioned you, yet once again you insult me. I couldn’t care less what you and your likes think, it is a great comfort
to know what awaits you.
Evviva Maria!

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Anonymous at 11:22
I don’t know any priests from Cork, but I’m sure he is excellent from your implication. I too am a great admirer of His Eminence Raymond Cardinal Burke, God Bless Him.
Evviva Maria!

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Mad Magna Caca at 11:19

Oh Polly! The sinfulness of my posts, if you’re looking for sin away and read your own, everyone of them Mortal Sin. I am always uplifted at The Holy Mass sometimes instead of being disgusted by you. I feel sorry for you, and hope you will repent.
Evviva Maria!

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Hiwowhi Have I schtarted something Are the long lost flys coming out of the closet but. It’s also amazing what the schkerted lot get up to when they are drunk hi

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7.15: Wiutat sicut herat – ich under diedsera – comitua in ders schlosser. This is as meaningful as the crap you produce….

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O ya hi The Fly family always buzzed respectfully in public hi. Keep the ants comments in da pants but

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Pat, all the articles you print, outlining the realities of unacceptable abuse and behaviour, in some cases, criminal, of high up clerics makes for awful reading. As a priest, I am utterly ashamed and disgusted, with my faith taking a severe battering. The revelations call for action by Pope Francis and all bishops. All clergy and religious, myself included, first and foremost must make reparation of some kind. We must also be converted more to God’s ways and judgment of us. Simply by being a member of the Church in our position taints us us all, destroying our moral and spiritual credibility. I just keep hoping and praying ……..At this time of year I hope all victims/survivors find some healing.

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A very honest comment. I too have been verbally abused when wearing a collar – never in Belfast, but several times in Dublin.

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7:48;
Excellent post Rev.
I hope the ‘penny drops’ with more of your colleagues. The sooner the better for everyone.

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Who is the Armagh priest still shagging the DUP teenager? Was Father up to no good at world youth day too? I hear the MP for East Londonderry has been making it his business to find out who the Priest is that’s shagging one of their own? That would not go down well in the hard old DUP circles.

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Gregory Campbell are you having a joke? The most anti- Catholic hater of the DUP. Just Google his totally anti Catholic rhetoric and anti gay language. Horrible man.

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Fanny Mullaney up tonight in the Gun Chapel, preaching to all the pro abortionists in the Gaynooth Musical societies, waxing lyrical about the many warning signs to the Titanic, which were ignored before disaster struck; and she likening that to our ignoring warning signs about the world’s climate and our plundering the earth. Not a bad wee message.

However, the irony is lost on her, of course, about the big Cruiser of which she is the “captain” – the Good Ship Gaynooth. It’s actually on the ocean floor, so to speak and she can’t see it.

To say nothing of the souls courting ruin listening to her, singing their hearts out about a Message they scorn and mock in their daily choices, behaviours, attitudes and espousal of views that are incompatible with the Christian faith.

The sheer irony and utter sadness of the meaningless and empty performances tonight, in Gaynooth, in the redundant Chapel.

There seemed to be about ten seminarians. Plenty of wailing Wicca witches and promiscuous gays dolled up to the nines and making soulless “music”.

They should up put a sign with “Ichabod” outside Gaynooth 😞

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Yes lovely carolling in Gaynooth this evening. Mick the Extractor Collins set the tone well from the very start. The Gaynooth Repeal the 8th Choral Society sang lovely so they did.

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Your comment about the sadness of holding these concerts in the redundant college chapel is very true. After these three days of activity it’ll be locked up again, until this time next year.

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Pat Mullaney in the Roost pub now after the Carols and the few drinks in her says he wishes you had been on the Titanic so she did.

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The DUP are anti Catholic. Many Tory Mp’s are unhappy with this Brexit arrangement. It’s interesting to observe that some Catholic Tories are Brexiteers – Bill Cash, Rees Mogg and IDS. Says alot.

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They are anti Catholic you feckin idiot in the same way they would class you personally as an abominable person for being gay you feckin asshole.

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“How are the DUP anti-gay Catholic?” Many of them are members of the Orange Order. Even you with your self proclaimed intellect should be able to work that one out.

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8:24, SOME DUP members are orangemen? MANY members of the institutional Roman Catholic Church were/are Sinn Fein supporters, an organisation with terrorism links. So what if some ‘Duppers’ are orangemen (or women)? They are not the DUP. Oh! Let’s see: the Orange Order doesn’t want its brethern marrying Catholics, etc. Isn’t this precisely how the institutional Roman Catholic Church behaved for many years (and still does in some respects), even forcing the children of religiously mixed marriages to be raised as Catholics (the infamous Ne Temere decree).
You need a lesson or two in Roman Catholic Church history.

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@10.47. I am no supporter of the RC Institution. Don’t attempt to deflect from the fact that the DUP is anti-Catholic.Senior members, Sammy Wilson who once said, “Taigs don’t pay rates” and “gays are perverts”, Gregory Campbell, Nelson McCausland, Arlene Foster, Simon Hamilton and Nigel Dodds are all members of the Orange Order.

You need a lesson or three on local politics.

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