CARDINAL MC CARRICK SEXUALLY ABUSED BOYS IN THE CONFESSIONAL

JD Flynn/CNA 29 December, 2018

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James Grein speaks at the Silence Stops Now rally in Baltimore, November 13, 2018.

A man who says he was serially sexually abused by Archbishop Theodore McCarrick testified Thursday as part of a Vatican investigation regarding the archbishop’s history of sexual abuse and misconduct.

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James Grein testified on December 27 in a canonical deposition conducted by officials of the Archdiocese of New York, the Washington Post has reported.
Grein’s attorney, Patrick Noaker, told CNA that the New York officials were acting as “auditors,” or delegates of the Holy See, adding that Grein was told that his testimony was part of an administrative process at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican office charged with investigating and adjudicating charges of clerical sexual abuse.
Grein claims that McCarrick, who was a family friend, began abusing him in the late 1970s, when he was 11 years old and McCarrick was in his late 30s and a priest of the Archdiocese of New York.
In July, Grein told the New York Times that the abuse continued for the next 18 years, he said, during which time McCarrick was consecrated a bishop and served as auxiliary bishop of New York, and diocesan bishop of Metuchen and then Newark.
Grein’s testimony this week alleged that McCarrick repeatedly groped and assualted him during confession, his lawyer said. Grein also testified that McCarrick sexually assualted him in a car, later telling the boy’s mother that Grein had spilled a soda, in order to explain a mess in the car.
In November 2000, McCarrick was appointed Archbishop of Washington, where he served until his 2006 retirement. In 2001, he was elevated to the College of Cardinals. About a week after Grein’s allegation was published in the New York Times, McCarrick resigned from the College of Cardinals.
Noaker told CNA that the Archdiocese of New York invited Grein to make a statement for the Vatican about one month ago. The lawyer said he got a call last week asking that Grein testify as soon possible.
The lawyer said that he was told the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is considering trying McCarrick for three canonical crimes the archbishop could have committed while abusing Grein: the broad prohibition in canon 1395 §1 prohibiting “persisting with scandal in..[an] external sin against the sixth commandment;” the specific prohibition in canon 1395 §2 prohibiting sexual abuse against a minor; and the crime of solicitation of a penitent in the confessional, established in canon 1387.
A trial or administrative penal process pertaining to those crimes could lead to McCarrick’s laicization. Noaker said he was told that that the “Vatican wants this finalized by the second week of February- the entire case” against McCarrick.

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In June, it was announced that a New York review board had found charges that McCarrick had abused another youth to be “credible and substantiated.” While additional allegations of coercive and abusive sexual behavior were subsequently made against the archbishop, he was until now expected to face canonical charges only in the initial case of abuse.
Grein’s testimony suggests that the archbishop could now be canonically tried for abusing multiple victims.
A spokesman for the Archdiocese of New York told CNA that he was unable to provide details on how Grein’s testimony might fit into Vatican procedures against McCarrick. This was “not an archdiocese of New York process,” Joe Zwilling told CNA. “This is a Vatican process.”
Noaker told CNA the abuse McCarrick is alleged to have committed during the sacrament of confession has had profound effect on Grein.
“McCarrick integrated the abuse into the sacrament,” Noaker said, alleging that McCarrick would molest Grein’s genitals while discussing the virtue of chastity. “That really hurt James.”
“This case illuminated for me how damaging it is for someone to be as vulnerable as they are when they come into confession and then to be sexually manipulated during that sacrament.”
The lawyer said that testifying against McCarrick has been difficult for Grein. When Grein recounted a particularly troubling incident, Noaker said, “he closed his eyes, and you could see him going back to that moment, and it was especially gruesome sexual assault, and it was upsetting just to be there.”
“He came out pretty worn out.”
“He has been so courageous, to go back to these moments,” Noaker said.
While many victims take pains to avoid addressing their sexual abuse, he said, Grein has approached the matter head on.
“Turning around and running at it is not without its pains.” Noaker added. “He did it knowingly and willingly, but not happily.”
Grein has filed a claim in a victims’ assistance program, the Independent Reconciliation and Compensation Program of the Archdiocese of New York, Noaker said, but has not yet received indication of whether he will be offered a financial settlement. Noaker said he expects notification to be forthcoming.
The lawyer said that Grein is most interested in healing from his abuse.
“He really wants his Church back. He just wants to be able to go to Church again, and find peace again, and, you know sure, I’m not sure we’re going to get that for him,” Noaker said.
“He said probably ten times yesterday, ‘I just want my Church back. I would like to have Jesus in my life again.’”

PAT SAYS:

This victim can have Jesus back in his life – especially if he looks for Jesus OUTSIDE the RC institution.

I have Jesus in my life and I stopped being part of that institution 32 years ago.

We have Jesus in our lives through faith, prayer and performing good in His name.

 

As for McCarrick – Pope Francis has the power to excommunicate him and dismiss him from the priesthood – and canon law says that Francis’ words are final.

In reality McCarrick should be spending the rest of his life in jail.

But even if the RC crowd dismiss him he will be given a comfortable home to live in and more money than he needs. If the institution does not provide it some half witted Catholic pew dweller. with more money than sense will look after him.

Its all about brainwashing.

As Aristotle said – and as the Jesuits practiced: “Give me a boy until he is 7 and I will give you the man”.

The RC Church got most of us when were only 4.

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47 thoughts on “CARDINAL MC CARRICK SEXUALLY ABUSED BOYS IN THE CONFESSIONAL

  1. God is clearing them out! Out with the lot of ye! Filthy destroyers of souls, minds, bodies and faith!

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  2. Pat, the recounting of McCarrick’s abuses is horrific and deeply saddening for the victims and survivors. The manner of McCarrick’s abuse of trust, privilege and power is frightening. Now his actions are being brought to light. Hopefully justice will be given to all who have been harmed, hurt and abused by him. Some survivors are brave and courageous in seeking to be reconciled with a new Church. They want a relationship with Christ. They may refind that experience by returning to the Church community, they may look elsewhere. That journey is one they’ll travel on themselves. Despite all my anger and disgust with what I now know about the corruption in the Church I still stay as I choose to do so. I find grace and blessing in the the Eucharist and prayer. I also recognise the goodness of my local Church which is led by a very inspired man along with his team. Yes, I undoubtedly was brainwashed but I left my childhood faith behind many years ago and am fulfilled in the new spirituality I have discovered with a mix of theology, philosophy, scripture and mysticism. The Church I belong to suits my spiritual hunger because it is a searching, reflective, praying parish. I hope all survivors of sexual abuse can find hope. Do you advertise your Oratory as a place of healing? If so what is the response?

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  3. We should pray for him. He needs our prayers

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    1. Yes, Francis at 12.01. let’s pray firstly for his conversion and that he owns up to his crimes. Let’s pray that he makes and is seen to make reparation. Let’s pray that he uses the life left to him to detail for all how he did it and how he was helped by the church to use the church to continue his dark deeds. Let’s pray that what he does now will deter others from similar deeds. Let’s us pray for these things so that he may eventually die in peace.

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      1. Francis Ferry. 30th Dec 2018 — 5:05 pm

        Indeed. He is but a good man struggling. He needs Rosaries.

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    2. Hi Fr Francis, I am praying rosaries for the former Cardinal McCarrick.
      It’s great to see a good holy priest commenting here.
      I hope all is well in Donegal. God bless.

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      1. Dear anonymous 9.49. You talk as though you assume knowledge of who I am. Who are you? God bless you.

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  4. Pat you really do little good. All you’re good at is to bash and destroy people all for your own glory!
    Would Jesus commend the way you carry out your business?
    I’m afraid not!

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    1. 12:03 – McCarrick certainly needs our prayers but he and all others like him must be exposed to the light for the sake of their own souls and for the sake of victims.

      The internet has been a game changer indeed, without which many such predators would never be found out.

      I believe that McCarrick will be laicized and hopefully this will bring the needed clarity to his conscience which would then enable him to be sincerely contrite and repentant. He would also need to make an unreserved public apology to his victims and for the horrendous scandal he has caused.

      Finally, like us all, he needs to prepare with much prayer and penance for his facing with Divine Justice.

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      1. 9:47
        What do you mean by ‘penance’? (Serious question.)

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    2. 12.03 but for people like Pat, each of whom brave church censure just like yours, clerical abusers would still be destroying more and more lives. How do you think Jesus would expose lying cardinals, bishops and priests? Or do you think that he would just quietly feed them with more victims?

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  5. McCarrick needs the book thrown at him not only by the Vatican but also by the civil authorities. He needs to be jailed not retired to some comfy home. These predators/paedophiles are not above the law. They are criminal deviants who have got away with their crimes for far too long. The RC church need to release ALL the information they hold on these scum to the civil authorities immediately. Let justice take its course and let it be seen to take its course. If Francis really is serious about tackling abuse (of all kind) he will instruct his bishops to release the information. This is an open scab in the Catholic Church and a sticking plaster won’t heal it. Major surgery is required. Expose these scum filled monsters for what they are

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    1. The Roman Wotsit will never betray her own…until her scrawny hand is forced.😆

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  6. The sad thing is that this case is yet another calamitous cover-up that stretched over decades.
    My prayers are with the victims and I hope that McCarrick will correspond with God’s grace and turn to Him for healing.

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  7. Good mornin’, good mornin’
    We’ve danced the whole night through
    Good mornin’, good mornin’ to you, you and you, (not you Magna)

    Good mornin’, good mornin’
    It’s great to stay up late
    Good mornin’, good mornin’ to you, you and you, (not you Magna)

    So, good mornin’, good mornin’
    Sunbeams will soon smile through
    Good mornin’, my darlings’, to you, you and you, (not you Magna)

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    1. 😢 (Sniff)

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    2. Catch yourself on . What kind of feeble mind have yoy to think this is in any way poetic, relevant or informative?
      Dungannon Danny

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  8. McCarrick’s sins and crimes are bad enough. But, the biggest issue here is the coverup. It is without a doubt that senior leaders in the Church in the USA over decades knew about McCarrick’s proclivities and activities, and still he was not called to account, indeed he was advanced. That constitutes facilitating his criminal and immoral behaviour, and being complicit in his crimes. Do not believe the protestations of bishops and cardinals that they knew nothing about McCarrick’s crimes. They chose to not listen and to turn away. That should be investigated and pursued, because it goes to the very heart of the dysfunction and corruption in the clerical hierarchy of the Church. In amongst all of that will have been a coterie of clerics who were looking after and advancing each other, with all sorts of webs of knowledge and connivance about the activities of others, which were overlooked in pursuit of advancing a particular cause or person. This is almost a Mafia style organization that promotes its own interest and its own people. It is no surprise that secular authorities, particularly in the USA, are taking an interest in this kind of organizational corruption and criminal activity. Once they start digging, they are going to find out a huge amount more, and will bring in to their web of investigation more and more clerics. Priests, bishops and cardinals will be doing the ‘perp walk’ one day. Watch that space !

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  9. It is good to see that Rome is moving fast to investigate former Cardinal McCarrick and take appropriate action even at his advanced age. I hope that this will signify that no one can hope to evade scrutiny and responsibility for their actions. Looking elsewhere, for example on Bishop Accountability, I’m struck by how slowly the RC church responds to cases such as these. I’m not persuaded that a very swift and decisive response is always a correct one; but equally these things often take years, the rights of the cleric/accused seem to trump those of the victim(s) – even where there has been a successful prosecution – and those who have already been victimised continue to suffer. [The RC church isn’t the only church guilty of this as the recent Peter Ball case in England shows].

    Whatever we may think of the RC church, and views on here are often quite polarised, I do hope that this article is evidence that things will start moving more swiftly with the church processes and that justice is seen to be done proportionately but within a reasonable timescale. If this does not happen, any words in support of those who have suffered clerical abuse from any of those within the organisation’s hierarchy, from Pope Francis down, will seem somewhat hollow.

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  10. 11:01. We are discussing the vilest form of abuse and the institutional cover up that has taken place. Yet you in your wisdom think that it is appropriate to post some silly nonsense. Grow up for goodness sake. Children have been abused. The church has covered up this filth and promoted the individual responsible. Children (now possibly adults) are suffering. By all means contribute to the debate but do not try to minimise these people’s suffering by juvenile nonsensical posting. This is way too far an important matter for you to act the eejit and have a pop at Magna into the bargain. Whether you agree with Magna or not he does make salient points and contributes to the debate. So grow up

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    1. I agree with you 11:45. Clerical sexual abuse victims have committed suicide. Look at yesterday’s blog re Cardinal Dolan and NY’s cover-up.

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    2. Oh, stop taking yourself so seriously and grow a sense of humour, for pity’s sake. Yes, the subject matter is important, but a little relief is also welcome. I bet you’re a fun man to go for a pint with ! Not !

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      1. There is a time and a place for everything @ 2:27.

        You appear to have the mental age of a 5-year old.

        Did you never learn proper etiquette, decorum and social norms as a child?

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      2. Did someone mention ‘pints’? 😆

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    3. 11.45: Pat is the greater eejit for printing this trivial piece of nonsense. Pat definitely lacks judgment at times but that never seems to bother him.

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      1. Lighten up peeps. No harm in having a sense of humour. A few years ago I hooked up with a Maynooth seminarian via Craig’s List. He was refreshingly guilt free and one of his favourite sayings was “you’ve got to have a giggle”.

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  11. 2.27: You are the guy who posted the stupid piece of nonsense at 11.01! Aren’t you? If not, you too are an eejit and an utter imbicilic fool. This subject matter is too serious as to be trivialized by nuts like you!

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    1. Yes, I am 2:27, but I did not write 11:01 The point is still valid, stop being such a humourless twat, and take Course 101 in a Sense of Humour. We can still discuss the substantive issue of abuse and clerical coverup, but there is also room for a bit of levity ? Non ? Cervello di gallina !

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      1. 3.18: What a ‘birdbrain’ you are if you consider this topic of sexual abuse to be a source of merriment or fun for your imagination! Have you ever been abused? Perhaps you are a fantasist and get ‘fun’ out of other people’s pain. Some ‘Cervello di Gallina’ you are! Gombeen – Torno coi piedi per terra….

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  12. They just seem to think they can do what they like and get away with it. (Remember KOB also used the confines of the confessional for his own gratification.)

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    1. Rocking Rev Edinburgh 30th Dec 2018 — 9:47 pm

      No evidence of this. Utter nonsense

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  13. Happy new Year to Mullaney and his kitten seminarians. Stephen Wilson and Mark Moriarty. One can only imagine the attire Wilson dressed up for Mullaney, maybe a Cabin Crew Uniform.

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    1. During the recent carol concert in Maynooth’s disused college chapel there were lots of smirks and knowing glances among the ten sems present when the line “don we now our gay apparel” came up.

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      1. 4.50: Do you realise how trite and supercilious a comment you’ve made? Another gombeen trivializing a serious topic being discussed today. The issue of sexual abuse should not be reduced to this infantile and utterly irrelevant comment.

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      2. @4:50pm – “Deck the Halls” wasn’t sung at the Carol service, you twat.

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      3. Like most reports of this subject 4.50, it is apocraphyal. Fake news in other words. That particular carol was not sung.
        Get your facts right.

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    2. Stalker alert! Just when we thought it was dead and buried.

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      1. Did they sing “O Come All Ye Faithful”?

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  14. 3:18. My final words on this. Yes I like a good laugh. Yes humour and levity are essential in life but there’s a time and place. I can see no humour nor no reason for levity when abuse of any kind is being discussed . BP Pat is providing a forum for these matters to be discussed sensibly even if people have differing opinions. Your attempt at levity and humour in this case is pathetically inappropriate. Now suck up the criticism and stop trying to dig yourself into a deeper hole.

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    1. Oh, get a life, for pity’s sake. Please ! Stop being so bloody pompous and self important. If you are a priest, I pity your poor congregation having to listen to you every Sunday !

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      1. 6 .03: What does it matter if I’m a priest? Would that invalidate my point? But if I am a survivor of abuse, surely your making fun of that is outrageous? So, “abuse” is ok? with you that you belueve it a cause of (sick) humour? What an idiot you are!

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  15. Bp Pat, I hope you will do an end of year review, but apart from the McAreavey and the Kildorrery scandals plus King Puck’s whordination, it seems to have been a quiet year overall. Oh, I almost forgot, and the two fags thrown out of Rome.

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    1. 7:53 pm
      A rather disgusting contribution.
      Be careful about making potentiallylibellous and defamatory comments.

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  16. Next year won’t be so quiet when more of their skeletons come falling or are dragged out of the cupboard and by the way 6:03pm if being pompous is caring about those who have been abused then I’m happy to be “bloody pompous” as you put it.

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    1. Cee You Next Tuesday……what a twat….pompous git…..get a life…..oh, I can’t be bothered with you….sooooo boring !

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  17. Fly on Th Wall 30th Dec 2018 — 9:10 pm

    The little poofaces think they can’t survive without the people and the people think they can’t survive without the institution but don’t know why hi. Recently thEngland celebrated 100 years of Women’s votes. Did them women have balls or what hi. Looks like there is no backbone in Church or people There is a God outside RC Church so theris. Takes balls o courage to find Him so

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  18. 5.05. … A good man struggling! You are joking, right?

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