THE IRISH PEOPLE ARE AT LONG LAST REJECTING THE UTTERLY CORRUPT ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND BISHOPS LIKE AMY MARTIN DO NOT LIKE IT ONE LITTLE BIT!
I am so glad that I have lived to see these gangsters having to swallow the bitter medicine the modern Irish are treating them to.
We are fed up to the teeth with these bishops and priests and it now payback time for them for:
- Their hijacking of Ireland’s constitution and laws.
- Their mafia-like control over schools, hospitals, universities, orphanages and other institutions.
- Their domination of our sexuality and private lives.
- Their ban on contraception, divorce, remarriage and same sex marriage.
- Their selling of orphans to the rich and to the USA and Australia.
- Their ill treatment and killing of children in their institutions.
- Their burial of poor babies in septic tanks.
- Their torture in their gulags of our unmarried mothers.
- Their cruel beatings of us in their schools.
- Their cruel rejection of our still born babies.
- Their fleecing of the poor to make themselves and their organisation wealthy.
- Their causing of generations of gay people having to emigrate to England.
- Their teachings that made new mothers “unclean” and in need of churching.
- Their interrogations of us all in their so called confessionals.
etc….etc
In recent years and decades the Irish people have been rising up against them and this rising is only beginning.
As far as the Iris are concerned these people and their institution is irrelevant at best and dangerous at worst.
Nowadays if Amy & Co say “turn right” the Irish will turn left.
This is not at all a rejection of God and spirituality.
It is a rejection of these “emperors” who are now seen to have no clothes.
It is a rejection of a “religion” that was simply posing as a spirituality.
It is a rejection by a formerly oppressed people who have copped on to their oppressors and given them their marching orders.
There was a time in Ireland when a passing priest would have caused people to go down on their knees. Nowadays, there is a real feeling of contempt when a priest is spotted.
And the likes of Eamon Martin are now telling their dwindling followers not to obey the laws that go against their religion.
Once they imposed their Roman law on us.
Now that we have risen they are rejecting the laws the Irish have voted for.
Our former masters are now becoming outlaws.
Its a sign of their frustration at being dethroned – and it will only lead to further rejection by the Irish.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
122 replies on “IRISH RC BISHOPS ARE SMARTING AS THE IRISH TELL THEM TO GET LOST!”
The Irish bishops, if they’ve any wit at all, will learn lessons from this turning tide of public opinion. But then, it really isn’t wit they need; it’s humility.
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Dear Magna, you need wit to have humility, because humility is the truth spoken in love and love is not some vague feeling. How about they need to repent? And change things.
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Yeaaaaah.
OK. I’ll second that!😆 👍
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Nothing new, nothing strange, nothing of intellectual rigour – yet again, more pouring out of self serving crap from the supreme crapper. Obviously this most High One – this Most Holy One didn’t visit our churches since last weekend. Packed. Overflowing. Wonderful people. Kind and generous. Of course there are crises but people also recognise true goodness when they witness it in their local priest. Some of your imaginations Pat are overembellished. You revel in the overstatement. Now for validation of your findings???
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And if this so-called ‘true goodness’ of the local priest were put to the test, what then? If the bishop commanded one thing and the congregation (and good conscience) another, which way would our clerical local hero lean? No need to consider, because we both know the answer. (Remember that evil, idolatrous vow? To the bishop?)
Name me one priest in Ireland who’s had a highly public showdown with his bishop (along with media publicity) and refused to back down because he knew his bishop was wrong. (I can think of only one: Pat Buckley.) 😆
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9.52: Magna, continue pissing into the wind. Couldn’t care what you think….useless specimen whose raison d’etre is to hate.
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Dear Magna, you need wit to have humility, because humility is the truth spoken in love and love is not some vague feeling. How about they need to repent? And change things.
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Goodness in local priests,tell that to parishioners in killdollery and all the other parishioners where the local priest was exposed as a pretenous self serving asshole.
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11.16: Begrudgery, begrudgery, begrudgery…..and hate speech. Go to confession and repent, you moron.
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11:01
Nooooo.😞 My raison d’être is to think independently but collaboratively, knowledgeably and honestly.
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Generous you say – I bet the parasite Priest was pleased.
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Shush Joe Lollard. Did you pay a tithe to your Proddy “minister”?
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Bishop Pat, I couldn’t post a single comment on your blog yesterday, though I did try a number of times. Not even the notification ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation’ appeared.
Did you block me for the day?
By the way, I discovered that I could post on the blog again, but only after midnight.
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I do not know what happened. I did not block you in any way.
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Thank you.
Your word is all I need.
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12.50: Magna, I suspect the good Lord was at work yesterday preventing your hatred from spoiling our Christmas spirit of goodwill which obviously didn’t take hold in you….ha, ha, ha, ho, ho, ho…..
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No, not the good Lord…but his adversary!
And the good Lord triumphed.
So wipe away your tears and rejoice!😀
Magna’s back. 😆
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No, not the good Lord…but his adversary!
And the good Lord triumphed.
So wipe away your tears and rejoice!😀
Magna’s back. 😆
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Magna darling, I did wonder why you kept pressing the buttons on my microwave and shouting that it wouldn’t publish…
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Mommie Dearest, is that what that thingy was? Your microwave?😕
I must have over-indulged on the Christmas spirit (aka Buckfast). But don’t tell them here, dearest: they’ll only poke fun at me.
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Pat, am sorry, but you can’t have it both ways. I support life and I was delighted to see that you also supported the life of the baby in the womb in the referendum back in May. So for you now to brag that the Irish are turning against the Catholic Church is also to say that are turning against you!!
Just because 66% voted in favour, does not make abortion right. The right to life is the foundation of all the other rights we enjoy and not the sole view of the Roman Catholic Church. Pat, I think it’s time to bury the hatchet and move on. Every few weeks you roll out the same litany of stuff, getting the same responses from the same people.
Be honest, you are either for life or your not. Your opinion does overlap with what the Roman Catholic Church says, and do you know, Pat, that’s okay too.
Give credit where it is due. Am afraid you don’t have the monopoly on truth, on what is right or otherwise. I think it’s a sign of wisdom to be able to compliment others, even the Church, rather than always trying to see the ‘splinter’ in their eyes and ignoring the ‘blank in your own’! None of us are perfect.
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It depends where you place the balance of the issues. If abortion is your tipping point, you’ll make that the deciding factor.
Personally I am mainly against abortion but also against the privileged position of the RC church. If the church loses its privilege but that doesn’t prevent abortion then that’s what I would prefer myself.
You see you can have it both ways…
It is also possible to think that gay sex is fine and still criticise the Catholic church for having majority hypocritical gay clergy, but that’s not the issue you brought up.
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6 o clock mass Christmas Eve at the Armagh cathedral got a mixed reaction.
Some said it was lovely because of Santa
Others said it was bunged, so wasn’t a pleasant experience.
Martin appeared and told a rather flat joke about the weight of the baby Jesus, apparently there was a way in the manger…ho ho ho
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4:06
Is Santa a Catholic?
I never knew.
Always assumed him a benign communist, what with all that red and jollity.
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It was a joy to see the Cathedral packed with little standing safe!
Faith is live in Armagh.
AB left the Cathedral beeming with joy!
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The biggest Maynooth scandal was the predator seminarians who rapped a junior seminarian.
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Raped not rapped. They were not trying to make an album they were raping a bum.
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12:16 A “Bum” doesn’t get raped anymore than a vagina gets raped. A PERSON gets raped! It’s a terrible assault!
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Precisely, Tom.
And very well expressed.
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Pat, why do you constantly fill your mind with these things? We need balance. You mention confessions. Why not discuss positively the rubrics and safeguards of a good confessional situation.
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I’ll tell you a good confessional situation (neither rubrics nor safeguarding required): a repentant person, alone in their heart with their God, sorrowful, seeking to do better, to be better, and knowing that none of this is permanently possible without the God who loves them almost to distraction.
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Magna, that is a fair comment. Sometimes, though, I need the sign, I need to hear the words – your sins are forgiven. And I was thinking of a safe interaction where this can be achieved.
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10.20: Magna, what “soiruts” enabled you to compose so calm and reassuring a comment. Is it the Holy Spirit? Miracle at last. If only you would be a good little boy like this – for your beloved mummy!! Where is she?
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11:25
Yours, too, is a fair comment.
But to some tortured souls, such words cannot bring belief in forgiveness, bring peace. Like poor Martin Luther, they believe that they’ve broken some rule (some rubric), that their examination of conscience was not rigourous enough, their confessional litany not honest enough, their…
I have done my best to help these souls, some of them disturbed almost to the point of madness.
I hear and appreciate what you’ve said, about the need to hear those words of absolution, but I believe that confessional litany should be spoken in the forum of the human heart…to God alone. Once this is done, a priest could pronounce absolution.
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Luther never really got the peace he sought. Even after his “turning point”, he continued to be a tormented and tormenting soul. Please God, he has found that peace on the other side. His psychological problems wreaked havoc on the Body of Christ.
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Thanks, Magna at 11.58. perhaps we are headed in that direction especially with legal moves to force disclosure of crimes or serious sins. It might make an open admission to another to be too dangerous in any case.
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11:53
Mommie Dearest? She’s up the page a little. 😊
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12:27
The only thing that the renegade Martin Luther found on the other side was the all consuming fires of hell for all eternity.
Evviva Maria!
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12:27
Now, now. You’re being historically disengenuous. Luther may have had an innate psychological tendency to scrupulosity (or somesuch), but if he had, it was exacerbated by the moral legalism of the institutional Church and by its presentstion of personal redemption in terms of commercial transaction: salvation for good works, quickened by that get-out-of-Purgatory-sooner card, the infamous indulgence for a coin.
(Did I mention Pope Leo X’s murderous desire for revenge on Luther?)
The Protestant Reformation need not have happened, and would not have happened had Leo (and his arrogant, intransigent , authoritarian ministers) not been so intractable.
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You also are being historically disingenuous “Magna Carta” in attempting to paint a sanitised Luther. He was an extremely problematic individual. Intransigent, bullheaded and scathingly vicious, even towards his fellow “reformers”. It was his way or the high way to put it mildly. Leo X was a villain certainly but Luther too is not without culpability in the horrendous mess of those times.
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“Murderous” was often par for the course in those days. Luther himself was not beyond murderous words, desires and behaviour. Look at the poor slaughtered peasants whom he led up the garden path.
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1.59 who slaughtered the peasants and why?
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1:56
Where did I deny any of those personal qualities of Luther?
My post was a parry to another comment, in which sole blame for the Protestant Reformation was laid at Luther’s feet.
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1:59
Luther did not lead German peasants anywhere: his teaching was opportunistically read by some of them as a moral licence to class war.
Luther’s challenge to authority was purely religious, not social.
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The bishops and clergy are hanging on by their finger nails because they are too stubborn, too arrogant to accept that we the people now see them for what they are. They still think that this is just a passing phase and that their power will be restored. Humility is not a word they recognise. The only apt word I can think of to describe their approach to this new reality is pathetic. You can beat us no more. You can fill our minds with guilt no more. You can lord it over us no more. Your days are numbered bishops now in the name of God just go
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11.41: Aren’t you the clever little one! Happy clappy in your summary. In the name of God – open your eyes and stop relying on this blog for TRUTH.
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12:01
And instead rely on what? Rome?😅
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12.18: No Magna, rely on YOU! Why not? ….. You’re God after all …..Isn’t that a magnanimous comment, though undeserved!
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4:04
Me? As God? I admit the thought has swept across my mi…
Nah! Impossible. I don’t ‘do’ blood and crosses.
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The people are turning from seemingly irrelevant church direction. Thing is what are they turning towards. The call of all so called Christians is to help us see Jesus in a new and relevant way. We have the problem where’s the solution hi
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That is the great challenge – to find and interest people in a genuine spirituality.
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12.14, Yes Pat, a genuine spirituality that helps people to separate the chaff from the wheat, to discern the presence of God in their everyday lives, to see their inate dignity, to open up pathways of true Christ inspired living. I try to do this despite all the challenges. In the end people are choosing to follow their own pathways, but often seek comfort and strength in present day moments of Catholic celebrations, baptisms, first communion, weddings, confirmation, funerals and special times like Christmas and Easter. These are our opportunities to speak and act like Christ. Strange times…..
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I agree. I often have people at weddings who are not church goes but who really enjoy a ceremony that is joyful and meaningful. I also find that humour goes a long way – of course I mean respectful and appropiate humour.
The problem with Catholicism is that we often gave peope religion and superstition instead of spirituality.
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12.04: The call of all Christians is indeed to imitate Christ in all things, to take our lead from his way of mercy, compassion, truth, fidelity to God, a passion for truth and justice, a willingness to go the extra mile, a readiness to give unselfishly, to look out for others. The way of Christ is also a calling to respect the dignity of others. While the way of Christ must compel all of us to name, condemn and abhor all abuse and violence against the dignity of the body, the name calling, ridiculing, silly commentary and moral self righteousness of the usual suspects does not express Christ’s way. Pat promised before Christmas that he would not tolerate the infantile behaviour of some, yet the photo of Archbishop Martin is rather childish but worse, it’s an attempt to smear, ridicule and offend as hurtfully as possible. The content of today’s blog has been repeated ad nauseam. Wish that MMM and other reasonable contributors would return! Even Magna’s mom!!!
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12.23 – ridicule and offend as hurtfully as possible? Come on. There have been plenty of insights on the blog these past days if you care to look. Honestly, I thought the pic of ab Martin silly, but then I thought would he ever wake up and ease up on the pr and engage a little. Let him take the silly hat off himself.
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I’m here! 😆
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According to the President of Maynooth genuine spirituality is worrying about climate change, bags for life, and polar bears.
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Now that defining list of yours is one concern short of definitive. Electrical batteries. You forgot the disposal of depleted electrical batteries!
Seriously?😕
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Its not begrugery its fact and i dont do confession, i left the rotten catholic church and very happy i did so, i dont regret it one bit,one of the best things i ever did,im a much happier man living by my concence not by a scrued up priest and a dangerous institution.
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12.28: Good for you that you left the Catholic Church. I hope you’re happy and feel unburdened. But you also seem all screwed up if you are still in “angst” and you need to learn to write properly. I am very content with belonging to my local parish community and thank God for the joy I find among people, priests, and religious. Let’s affirm the many places and communities where Christ is found.
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After all the revalations of abuse and cover up ,clearly christ is not to be found in the catholic church,its the anti christ
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2.16: Read carefully my comment again at 1.00pm. I spoke about finding Christ present in my local Church in the interaction between people, priests and religious. The local Church community, as distinct from the institutional Church, is the true People of God. In the midst of our Eucharist, prayer, good works, welcoming, kindness, there CHRIST is present and found. Surely this “true church” where present, should be acknowledged and celebrated!
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There is a natural falling away from organised religion and a decreasing level of religious practice. Yet, we know people yearn for something deeper in life. I’m not always sure what that yearning is – but alternative relugious options, like The Oratory are certainly not benefiting from those who want something different. I met hundreds of parishioners at mass over Christmas – salt of the earth people, kind and wonderful but whom I mostly meet at our schools, at the shops or out walking. I don’t know if they want any type of spiritual options. Some do but most are content with their choice. A sign of the evolving nature of modern life. We have to engage with people as we find them not as we would wish them to be.
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That post of yours, 1:08, is good.
Many people want to ditch organised religion out of disillusionment and disgust, since it delivered (in name only) what it promised to deliver in person, Jesus the Christ. Nevertheless, the human, innate existential angst for something beyond, and indefinably greater than ourselves, rumbles on. People may give up looking in certain places, like organised religion, for whoever it is they are looking for, but they’ll continue the search nevertheless. Augustine seems to imply this since, in his view, relentless restlessness is humanity’s lot until the sesrch is successful. But who in their right mind wants this? Why, organised religion, of course!
The greatest barrier to Christ, it seems, isn’t Satan, but the followers he left behind, the religiously organised. It’s enough to prompt an exasperated Jesus to say: ‘If you want something done, do it yourself!’
Maybe this is the hidden prophecy of his promise to return to Earth, the Second Coming. Maybe he’s coming again, not because he knew his disciples could herald his good news in any meaningful way, but because he knew they would make a complete horlicks of the job he gave them 2000 years ago (and canonise some of those prominently involved, into the bargain).
As Oliver Hardy was wont to say to his sidekick, Stan Laurel: ‘This is another fine mess you’ve gotten us into’.
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Cardinal Sean O’Malley writes to the Vatican over Cardinal Dolan’s sexual abuse cover-up in New York. Cardinal Dolan led the disastrous apostolic visitation to Maynooth. The collapse in the US continues apace.
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/breaking-omalley-turns-in-dolan-for-abuse-cover-up
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A victim of this sexual abuser priest committed suicide in 2015. Cardinal Timothy Dolan allowed him to minister for a year and a half to sexually vulnerable minors after settlements were paid to victims.
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Abuse of kids took place in local chuch communities,take your head out of the sand,all this crap about priests and religous,they are a dying breed in this country,there demise is one of the best things that has accoured in recent times
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Where is/are the dope (s) now who said yesterday that coverups cannot happen in 2018!??
It makes perfect sense that because the seminary council and majority of seminarians in Maynooth are corrupt that coverups will be par for the course.
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In a nutshell, sir!
And who could refute your point?
Look at Corporal Jones. Ordained earlier this year, despite his, er, bits performance on Grinder. And Deacon Gorgeous, allegedly of Silverdaddies fame, waiting in the wings for his cue to step centrestage for his ordination.
Is the world gone mad? Allowing the smoke of Satan to thicken in the sanctuary?
The bishops who ordain such morally unsuitable candidates are (excuse my vulgarity, but it ain’t gratuitous) ‘dumping’ on the laity.
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I believe that most of the Irish bishops are either dumb or corrupt or both.
MC is right. How could they even consider ordaining the likes of Jones, Byrne, Derwin, etc.?
Maynooth is rotten.
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We went to Christmas Mass at Armagh Cathedral. During Christmas lunch I thought my Grandson said the Priest was scruffy. After questioning my daughter later it turned out my Grandson said he saw the Priest on the gay app Scruff. Now my Grandson is gay and out and we have become accepting of that fact and he is on these app things. What surprises me in all of this is that after Fr Coyle, has Armagh learned anything? My daughter is a teacher in a well known Grammar and said she was thinking of approaching the Priest, my advice to her was that it would be a waste of time.
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One of the problems with these apps is that they are addictive. Some of these priests are so addicted that they cannot help themselves.
Also, some of them are arrogant and think they are untouchable.
Amy needs to have “come here I want ye” with this guy.
We all know who he is – he scared a farmer’s son at WYD.
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Word has it Eamon already knows and the Priest hasn’t been in Armagh for the last few days. Apparently told to delete immediately and keep your head down.
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If Amy tackled all the actively gay priests he would have too many holes to fill.
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Pat @5.30pm. The farmer from Armagh was sent to the former Nuncio in Dublin. All smiles and a cup of tea. What the Nuncio failed to tell him (which did more damage in the end) was he had only days left in the job.
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Give us the name and the factual evidence!
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Was he referring to Eamonn Martin lol.
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Why does it always seem to be Armagh? Is it something in the water up there?
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Yes Pat, I agree. These apps are addictive and I wonder how many priests are on them? You touch on a very important point when you say some clergy are arrogant and feel themselves to be untouchable – that is arrogant in itself is it not? What gets me is that so many young lads are on these apps and not so young perhaps – surely these Priests must know there is a real danger in being recognised because they are public figures. Is that the thrill or danger? Whatever the motivation it’s both sad and mad.
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How many gay apps are there? Are any of them genuine dating sites? Or are they all about ‘slap and tickle’?
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Mags, I’ve never come across a genuine gay dating app. These days it’s all about instant. We live in an instant world and the days of genuine dating are long gone, apps or otherwise I’m afraid.
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Are straight apps the same?
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6.05: Magna, Pat will give you a ‘slap and tickle’….He’s had many!!!!
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6.05: Magna, the closet gay seeking hook ups on this blog! Strange indeed …
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8:47
WTF! 😲
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I’m a holy, ordained 😁 Roman Catholic priest who has kicked off the shackles of unqualified and uncontested episcopal obedience.
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John in Armagh @ 5.14pm You are a totally dangerous fool gossip posting this nonsense. Why bring it on this blog? You’ll burn in Hell for what you say. People respect the Armagh Priests and they are holy and don’t deserve this rubbish. They are nice to people and work hard and they dress properly as priests. Everyone can see you are a liar.
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Blimey! And they say I’M boorish.
I’m at the feet of a master here.
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Oh really 6:41? So you would include Frs Coyle and McCamley in your diabolic diatribe?
I am afraid that most people are beginning to see that many priests, bishops and cardinals are not only liars, but compulsive, pathological and inveterate ones at that.
Lying appears to be part of many modern clerics DNA. It is such a problem that they can no longer distinguish illusions from reality.
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Isn’t so-called ‘Fr X’ of Armagh archdiocese, too?
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Is that the same Armagh Priest who was in Maynooth at the same time as M J Byrne? If so, enough said and an accident waiting to happen. Likes collecting other lads underwear. Could tell loads more.
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Tell it to Pat.
Every piece a jigsaw makes.
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JOHN ARMAGH
If you confirm the priests name by email or as a comment I will not publish, I will put your experience to Eamon Martin.
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2 Corinithians 11:13-15, Revised Standard Version.
“For such men are false prophets, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.”
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Er, your point?
Because none of us here can mind-read, please state the point of your post, and we’ll get back to you.😆
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The post regards the perverts among the clerical ranks of the Catholic Church. Their day of reckoning is here.
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Pat, I think that you can only do good by consistently sending the details to ab Eamon about erring clergy even if he doesn’t give you the dignity of a reply. You are still doing your part.
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Yes!
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He doesn’t reply. Try it.
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Yes Bp Pat. Continue to send the names of errant priests to Armagh. Let’s see what Eamonn Martin does with this info especially after the meeting with Francis in Feb. Will be a telling time
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And let the local, national, and international press know of it. 😆
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Frances couldn’t give a hang. That’s why Armagh and other places are in a mess.
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Yes Bp Pat. Continue to send the names of errant priests to Armagh. Let’s see what Eamonn Martin does with this info especially after the meeting with Francis in Feb. Will be a telling time
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6:41pm. “They dress well as priests”. Are you having a laugh? So what? More like wolves in sheeps clothing. Catch a grip of yourself. Must be the least intelligent argument I’ve ever heard.
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Very interesting about the Armagh priest on the gay app if true.
Starting to get the scent!
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He is in Magherafelt presently from Armagh helping John Gates
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Think you’ve totally the wrong scent!
Try again.
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You telling me I have the wrong scent John means I have the correct scent
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Pat you should report this to Eamonn Martin. This priest has got away with it for to long.
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1.36 Karl
You’ve lost the plot!
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@7.15am Wrong. He is still in Armagh assisting His Grace the Archbishop.
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When I was at Mass in Magherafelt on Friday morning the priest was Fr Tommy McHugh. Assisting the bishop my ass.
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Yes Thomas was in Magherafelt on Friday.
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Bishop Pat was this the same Priest at World Youth Day? Got to hand it to you. You do get interesting info. Just when I thought things were getting a bit boring.
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Is he the Fr X I wonder?
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No.
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Then it’s worse than I thought in Armagh Bishop Pat
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Absolutely. Falling to pieces. Priests dping what they want. Amy no control.
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I’m totally shocked!! A bishop advises his priest to delete a gay sex app immediately and disappear for a few days??? Has he done this before?
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7.07 why on earth are you shocked? Perhaps you have just come across this blog.
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Some of us are shocked?. Yes. We are not all as innocent as you are!!
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