DOWN AND CONNOR SAGEGUARDING OFFICER CALLS MISSING PRIEST “EVIL” AND”A BASTARD”.

Blog removed at the request of victim Marie.

ARMAGH DIOCESAN CHANGES

PAT SAYS

The interesting part of these appointments is the Monasterboice one.

Amy went to Monasterboice a few months ago and promised them a new PP “in the New Year”.

That has not happened. Instead, the retired PP of Drogheda is looking after it temporarily.

That is not good enough.

72 thoughts on “DOWN AND CONNOR SAGEGUARDING OFFICER CALLS MISSING PRIEST “EVIL” AND”A BASTARD”.

  1. MournemanMichael 21st Jan 2019 — 12:16 am

    There is a parallel here in the UK independent Guardian ad Litem system.
    In child care proceedings before the court, most usually taken by the state’s council social workers, an independent social worker (the GAL) is appointed. That SW is truly independent, paid by the GAL service, and has full authority to examine all relevant information and records and interview any relevant person including the child, parents etc in order to provide a report to the court as to what is in the child’s best interests. In doing so Gals regularly disagree and challenge council SWs.
    I can never imagine the RC church agreeing such an independent service
    for safeguarding .
    MMM

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    1. MournemanMichael 21st Jan 2019 — 11:58 am

      Thinking further on this issue I distinguish two main elements essential to the role. There will be other requirements, but the two I distinguish are:
      A) The establishment of good practice requirements fully integrated locally with recognised national standards, to ensure the standards/requirements are understood and adhered to by relevant personnel.
      B) Investigating where concerns are raised that the standards have not been observed, to ensure the proper public investigatory practices are involved and fully cooperated with. By ‘public’ I refer to police and social services staff fully independent of the diocese.
      I have no major issue with diocesan employed safeguarding officers involvement in A) above.
      It is in respect of B) I have major concerns. This is the more acute when an investigation may be about the actions of diocesan clerics. Quite simply, it is not possible to be truly independent and free from the possibility of pressure from diocesan authority in such circumstances, especially given the now known record of their abysmal failings.
      “He who pays the piper calls the tune.”
      MMM

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  2. I’d be interested to know the remit of a safeguarding officer when a bishop is accused of abuse. For example could the C&R SG Officer hold Johnny Buckley to account if Johnny Buckley happened to be reported to her?

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  3. If he is both Evil and A bastard he must never have been made know to Charles Browne. Had he been known to Charlie he’d surely have been made a bishop.

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    1. I wonder how Charlie is getting on in, where is it, albania ? He-he-he….. Francis does have a sense of humour !

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      1. On the contrary, Albanian men are gorgeous.

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      2. You sound creepy. (Or is it more sound like that hound (what’s its name?😕)…Scooby Doo?😅)

        😆

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      3. Scooby-dooby-DOO! 😅
        😆

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  4. Do you have a recording of this conversation that can play on this blog ?

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  5. Fly on Th Wall 21st Jan 2019 — 8:21 am

    Using words like evil bd is not acceptable from a professional However if the call is recorded it is interesting supporting evidence hi

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  6. They will say anything and then deny it. Too bad for him he was recorded. He’ll probably be gone before the end of the week

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  7. Pat, I think you cast a huge injustice over the role of safeguarding officers in our Dioceses. Their work contract is very clear and decisive and must adhere to State guudines regarding Child Safeguarding. To suggest that these officers serve only the Bishops is deliberately misleading. The Diocesan Safeguarding Personnel are mandated to adhere to Best Practices and there can be no deviation from the guidelines. You are making assumptions which are libellous about the approach taken by Bishops. There cannot and should not be any ambiguity around child safeguarding issues of the safety and protection of children and vulnerable people. Tell us about your comprehensive guidelines and policies. Where are they to be found and do you ensure that you are independeny audited by trained professionals? I am frequently guided by 2 parishioners who are professionally trained in both state and church guidelines. Stop inferring that some don’t care about child protection when, by law, it is paramount and obligatory in our parishes.

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    1. 9.19
      I hope you know that these 2 parishioners are entitled to their fee of whatever an hour.
      Can be up to 300 an hour.
      Do not be looking for freebies in this day and age,
      Fair fee for any advice….no scrounging.

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      1. 2.31: The 2 safeguarding representatives are trained professionally to understand their role. They do so on a voluntary basis. This is an area of huge relevance for all parishioners and our volunteers simply ensure that we follow best practices but frequently attend ongoing training and updating seminars. They are excellent and do superb work. It’s called “volunteerism” for the good of your parish!! You should try it….

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    2. MournemanMichael 21st Jan 2019 — 2:40 pm

      Perhaps if you read the concerns I express in (B of my second comment above you may understand how diocesan employed safeguarding staff are widespreadly viewed.
      I would add that whatever your personal integrity and views, it’s surely vital that safeguarding staff involved in any investigative action are not only independent and objective, but are seen as such.
      MMM

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      1. 2.37
        So you have yes men / women who are sent on training courses….to come back and do your wishes.
        No way to run a parish.

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      2. 2.37
        Trained to understand their role.
        What utter claptrap.
        They need to be professionals in their chosen careers…BEFORE you get your claws into them.
        There is nothing professional in volunteering…

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    3. MournemanMichael 21st Jan 2019 — 4:15 pm

      Anon@ 2.37: You write about the “professional training” and subsequent courses etc of your ‘safeguarding representatives’. I’m obliged to query it’s quality and effectiveness. Could you elaborate, both on their ‘training ‘ and the other qualitive experience they bring to the role? And who chose them? I hope they are not simply acquiescent placement, but suspect they are.
      In fact you come across as very defensive of the status quo with inability to appreciate the need for truly independent scrutiny and to be seen as such.
      MMM

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      1. MournemanMichael 21st Jan 2019 — 4:45 pm

        Acquiescent placemen (not placement). Predictive text!
        MMM

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      2. 2.37
        They should have university degrees or similar.
        Not selected by priest to go on a training mission where they feel obliged to do your bidding
        Will you pps never learn.

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      3. 3.15/4.58 – both ignoramuses. Total bulls**t. Neither if you have a clue what you’re talking about. Go and educate yourselves about child safeguarding policies in Dioceses, parishes, schools and other institutions. Read documents before you comment, otherwise you are simply spinning – in otherwise, lying.

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  8. Some of you may recall the recent IICSA events over here in the UK. + Vinny was hauled up in front of them to account for his time in Birmingham. + Bernard ‘Bunty” also appeared. I can’t be forensic about the detail, but the impression I got about Vinny’s time was that he was somewhat reluctant to let some of the safeguarding agencies have the access and freedom that they needed / required in his diocese. The issue of safeguarding officers and their relationship to the diocese became active again in the resignation / dismissal / easing out of the safeguarding officer for the diocese, with a whiff of her having been treated very badly by the diocese in an attempt to cover their backsides and to ensure that she was the scapegoat to carry the failings of the diocese in safeguarding matters. There’s certainly a smell about the whole thing. Perhaps it will come out in the final report of IICSA, which both Vinny and Bernard will be bracing themselves for because it is not going to be good for them and the diocese. Hopefully, IICSA will also be able to see through the pathetic and self-serving attempts of the diocese to pin the blame on one of their employees. The moral of the story here for me is that I would not work for the Church as a layperson in any capacity. Their employment record is lamentable, they believe themselves above what is recognised in the lay business world as professional and acceptable employment behaviour and management, probably because they simply haven’t a clue and are not properly trained. I am absolutely sure that in the case of safeguarding officers, bishops and VGs simply do not understand the need for the safeguarding officer to be independent and objective, and they will expect them to be answerable to them and will interfere in all sorts of ways. And, if you don’t play ball, or if things go wrong, then you will be to blame and they will use you as a scapegoat. Watch that space in Birmingham Archdiocese, because I don’t think we’ve seen the end of this matter, and they will be found out for their questionable activities and their poor safeguarding practice.

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    1. @9:45
      Bless your heart. I work round the corner from St Chad’s cathedral and will go in and light a candle for your intentions after work. And I certainly will not pay for it!

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      1. You probably won’t find St Chad’s open when you leave work at 5 pm. There is very little goes on there. Midday Mass, maybe, and then not much else. It’s probably closed by 4 pm. It’s very poorly used. No engagement with the city and its workforce. Very little outreach, except that done by the St Chad’s Sanctuary for refugees, but I doubt if the clergy ever get their hands dirty there and that’s left to some intrepid sisters and laypeople. It’s a big prominent building which just sits there, doing very little. It really needs a kick up the arse to get it going and hopefully a new Dean will able to do that rather than just resting on its questionable laurels and preaching to the converted, of which there are less and less. The people who run the place seem to have very little interest, very little enthusiasm, very little imagination, very little drive…..you name it, they haven’t got it. Oh, but of course, Mass is being said occasionally, so that’s alright then !!

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      2. Oh bugger, you’re right. There used to be an evening mass for the workers. Don’t worry Bab, I’ll get in there and light a candle for you at some point.

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  9. Is the Arch Bishop aware of the illcit activities of Stephen Wilson.

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    1. The Archbishop is aware if many things including the farmers Son and the Scruff priest. He continues to bury his head in the sand so this case will be no different.

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  10. Pat, it is none of your business what decisions are made in appointing priests to parishes. None whatsoever. Look after your own small, wee flock. You obviously have little to do if you can afford all the time and energy in interfering in the affairs of the CATHOLIC CHURCH. Thought you had left it all behind to form your own independent church. Surely you must have something worthwhile to do in the bigggggggggggg community you like us to believe you have. Or are we being deceived? Get a life.

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  11. A couple of interesting topics for discussion on this blog which Pat may already be planning to throw open. Firstly the case of the 84 year old sister on the staff of the Detroit seminary who has resigned over inappropriate conduct. She fits the pattern so familiar in the clergy: untouchable, entitled, everybody felt boundaries were being crossed yet felt nothing could be done, regarded as a kind of saint, and prime exponent of bull-shit. People live in these hothouses removed from real life and fueled by savior-complexes.
    Secondly the jocks from a Catholic prep school practicing their frat-boy antics at the Washington March for Life. Though they may have been unfairly traduced to some extent, especially given other groups were far from innocent in their own insulting behavior, the Covington Diocese and school have to be held to account for sending teenagers off as legionaries to fight evil as they see it. The Church’s allying with the Evangelical right and the Make America Great Again brigade – many boys were wearing the distinctive Trump headgear – in a desperate attempt to recover the moral high-ground in the wake of scandal has little to do with Catholic social teaching let alone the gospel. Maybe we could unpack these issues further – ideally without the vitriol.

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    1. The farther south one travels in the States, the more republican its population. A political rule of thumb here, yes?

      So why such extremism from these Kentucky students? I should have expected a more centrist leaning from the Blue Grass State, especially from young people. 😕

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    2. Oh really ! What a bunch of over sensitive snowflakes in Detroit ! There’s very little to this, and I sense it is being blown out of all proportion because of the ridiculous culture of victimhood we have nowadays. We could all talk of people from the past who touched us affectionately, or overly, and make a meal out of it and become the victim. They need to man up and get a life and some balls, for God’s sake. And, I’m sure that whatever this woman has done will have been well eclipsed by the nefarious, often hidden, antics of the seminarians who say that they are victims of her. As for the two novices, well, they have an axe to grind it seems to me, and rather than taking their story at face value, I would like to see it subjected to some examination, and see if it really stands up. The nun appears to have rolled over, maybe 50 years ago she did make some indiscretions, but for over 50 years she seems to have been a faithful and effective servant of God. So, why not concentrate on that rather than the self-pitying, fey, victimhood protestations of a pile of clerical snowflakes.

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      1. Very revealing terminology used at 15:30: a guy who thinks cuddles from some old auntie of either sex on the seminary staff is not what he signed up for is a “snowflake”, but a MAGA cap wearing red-neck who is kept awake at night fretting over gay marriage is a “real man”! I don’t think any of the lads is claiming to have been damaged, but it does raise the question yet again of the types who are responsible for formation and why they are allowed to get away with unprofessional conduct. In seminaries, behaviour which would be utterly bizarre in any other walk of life – save possibly for English public schools – is accepted and normalized. A year or two ago there was the old Monsignor in Lincoln, Nebraska dragging seminarians into the shower with him. Then we had Uncle Ted’s beach hut. It would be as if the Colonel of a regiment were inviting young subalterns to share his bed, and everybody knew but nobody said a dicky bird. “Great ass, son!” “Thanks, Sister.”

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      2. @ 5.21
        Context is everything. The actions: more than 50 years ago 2 novices believed the lady was physically too close. Allegedly both were asked to leave. In the 60s and early 70s major upheavals happened and the pendulum swung in the other direction for a while. As it does. This happened in formation, in liturgy to name just two areas. She would have been trained in the old school in the 50s. The 60s and 70s were a time of experimentation. Almost by definition mistakes will be made under such circumstances. But once again here hindsight is a great advantage.

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    3. Did you watch the full video? Did you watch and listen to the “black lost tribe of Israel” and the disgusting threats and abuse they were directing to children? Do you know the history of the nativist activist who walked in among the schoolchildren banging a drum in their faces? It’s the same old predictable vitriol. The fact these schoolchildren had been on the March for Life makes them the ‘baddies’ in the minds of the shoutie lefties. How dare they wear a maga hat or stand their ground as an adult activist bulldozes into their group trying to intimidate them! This well known adult activist then lies about them and the whole media apparatus is delighted to spread the lies unquestioningly. I hope their parents sue the asses of all ( journalists) propagandists involved.

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      1. Y’know: I agree with you. They are kids, ffs!😲

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  12. Big Delia is seething with you Pat and wants to punch your lights out. She’s particularly foaming at the mouth after you recalled her amputation story at the site of a car accident.

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    1. Big Delia needs to get out of Aidans life and lives of his parishioners.

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      1. She may be a fruit fly, Bp Pat, but regardless of intentions, women and men enjoy the company of those who feel “right” to each other.

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    2. Big Delia on the warpath! 😂😂😂 Careful now Pat. Heifers are treacherous when they’re riled especially when you go near their calves. Thon wee calf Aidan, Big Bedelia is fierce protective of, so she is! She’s pawing the ground in Poleglass tonight and snorting in the direction of Larne! 🤣🤣🤣

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      1. I learned how to handle Big D years ago. Take everything she says with a massive pinch of salt.

        That amputation story – she expected us to believe it.

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  13. I believe Marie. I suspect, in his heart of hearts, the priest knows she told him.
    30 years ago, however, he was a young priest not long ordained. There were not the procedures that are crystal clear today.
    The accused priest would have been one of the D&C ‘good ol’ boys’ and Tootsie O’Brien wasn’t exactly a paragon of priestly virtue either. “A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse” was how these ‘good ol’ boys’ operated. They looked out for each other and Marie wouldn’t even have registered on their radar.
    One can but hope also that M. O’H has become better educated as to the consequences of sexual abuse than his ignorant and callous comments of 10 years ago would have suggested.

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    1. The clerical club have each others backs ALL the time.

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      1. 4.39: Another one of your cheap, infantile, ignorant, nasty jibes. You just can’t resist them. The sad reality is that you, Pat, haven’t effected any true, necessary renewal of any kind. No bright sparks anywhere to be seen. Thank God for the many good, kind, decent priests I encounter frequently, men who, in their frailty, 75/80’s, are still honouring their commitment as priests. Your sniping at these guys is unforgivable. They are men of integrity and good conscience. God bless them.

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    2. Did O’Hagan ever apologise for those ignorant remarks?

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      1. At 4:51pm – no record of him ever having done so, or of him retracting his comments.

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    3. Does Tootsies clerical clique still dine out together on a Monday?

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      1. Well Tootsie is dead. Maybe his Mrs goes to represent him?
        Johnnie has fled and his Mrs is gone with him.

        So Mrs Mooney will be very lonely.

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      2. Yes, certain clergy always went to Mrs Mooneys for Lunch and no expense spared, Mrs Mooney always footed the Bill. Personally, I never rated the restaurant food all that good and still dont. I don’t think Mrs Mooney is around much these days.

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    4. Yes, I believe Marie, too. Not that supercillious-looking fool, O’Hagan-the-younger. 😆

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  14. Looking at Amy’s appointments you’ve got to laugh. He’s just moving the deck chairs on a sinking ship by moving a few old codgers around. It’s clear he has very little manpower when he’s reduced to appointing a few aul hags who should be retired or on the verge of retirement. Not surprising that Clogherhead gets a mention.

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    1. Amy is another one trying to manage decline.

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    2. 4.31 Really? Not very charitable or Christian of you to refer to these men thus.
      They’ve borne the heat of the midday sun.
      What have you contributed?

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    1. What’s the point adding these links – can you not add your own point of view or join in the discussion? Is it really that difficult?

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    2. Copy and paste article here (as its behind a pay wall).

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    1. Not Eamon Martin 21st Jan 2019 — 8:34 pm

      Archbishop Amy Martin of Our Ma. Mate of All Sireland.

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  15. Any? Noel? They are all the same. Move people all they want. Ain’t nothing gonna change until they address the real issues. They are in denial. Btw Pat since you know Delia and she’s an orthopaedic surgeon(albeit part time) any chance she could have a look at my hip. It’s playin up something shocking 🤣🤣. Hope she doesn’t take out her temper on poor Aidan or the parishioners up there. If she gets kicked out of the parochial house she can get a hot meal in St Pats soup kitchen where Fraulein Eugenica will welcome her with open arms (for a small fee of course)

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    1. Delia has already accused people in the parish and is in a foul mood. God knows how’s shes treating Aidan behind closed doors. Then again, if she gives him a good hiding he will probably take it.

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      1. She will get the big fat bake slapped aff her in Poleglass if she doesn’t wind her neck in! We’re no push overs in Poleglass and thon big heifer outa Moneyglass better watch her manners or she’ll go back down that road with her tail between her legs.

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  16. Pat Mullaney said in the Cafe Bon Bon today that you are running a puppy farm up there on the side. A van load of puppies were discovered in Larne and he said you might have a few for sale. He likes his frothy coffees in the Bon Bon does our Mullaney Pat and someone mistakenly thought he was foaming at the mouth today and accused him of being a rabid dog.

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    1. 8:53 A sick posting. Likely from an ill poster.

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      1. I’m alive, very well and kicking.

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    2. Halfwit (and this is being generous) @ 8:53.😆

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      1. At least he’s not a dimwit and drunken f’ wit like you Carta.

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    3. When I catch the student, responsible for these “Pat Mullaney” posts, there will be a public birching in the Aula Maxima, in front of the entire student body – all nine of them!

      He will then be placed in the same padded cell where Mick Lomansey is being held, for a week, for Mick to play “games” with!!

      Yes, I will “Café Bum Bum” him alright let me tell you and make no mistake about it.

      PS – no plastic bags were used in the writing of this message.

      Monsignora Michael Frances (Fanny) Mullaney, BA, BD, DCL, H Dip Ed.

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  17. “Open letter to the US bishops:It’s over”……….is a very good read on the National Catholic Reporter website.

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    1. Why is it a ‘very good read’? 😆

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    2. What’s this got to do with the subject being discussed and why should we read this?

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  18. Kevin Connolly is attempting to leave Clogher again and go back to Meath.

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  19. Kevin Connolly is part of the Sean Hickey and David Dysky cover up. Mullaney used Connolly as a mediator to coercive Hickey and Dysky to keep their mouths shut or else. Kevin Connolly is part of the group known as Kittens, Mullaney’s special boys who do his bidding.

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