HOGAN – GORMAN AND JONES – A BIZARRE TRIO OF PRIESTS

THREE PRIEST COLLEAGUES WHO ARE RIGHT WING AND AT LEAST ONE PLAYS WITH DOLLS.

FATHER JOHN HOGAN – PP MULTYFARNHAM WHO REFUSES COMMUNION TO POLITICIANS.

FATHER FAVID JONES – WELSH MONK LIVING IN MEATH DIOCESE.

These three guys seem to be friends or know each other.

They are obviously youngish right wing priests with a hankering over the “good old days” of the RC church.

I find them all very strange.

Watch these videos and let me know what you think.

OWENY INTERVIEWS DAVEY

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A Catholic priest has stated that Catholics in Northern Ireland have started supporting the DUP because it is “the most consistently pro-life and pro-traditional marriage party in Northern Ireland.” Fr. Owen Gorman, parish priest in Aghadrumsee, wrote in Catholic monthly newspaper ‘Alive’ that “Catholics have started to support Peter Robinson’s Democratic Unionist Party (DUP).” He believes that Catholics “whose faith informs their voting” are now less likely to vote for Sinn F�in “because Sinn F�in favours legislating for ‘gay marriage’ and supports the availability of abortion in certain circumstances (e.g. in cases of rape, incest, or the threat of suicide).” The outspoken cleric from Castleblaney Co. Monaghan also criticised the SDLP for its support for full marriage equality for same-sex couples.

Fr. Gorman wrote: “While Sinn F�in support remains high in the Catholic community, they do not, however, have the support of Catholics who are committed to the cause of life and marriage.” He points to 12 March when Sinn Fein (joined by two Alliance MLAs and the Green Party) blocked an amendment to the Criminal Justice Bill which would have banned abortions being performed by private clinics. That amendment needed cross-community support and Sinn F�in’s petition of concern meant that, although 53 MLAs supported the amendment and 40 opposed, it did not win enough support from nationalist MLAs.
The breakdown of the vote was 44 unionists and nine nationalists for the abortion amendment, while 26 nationalists, five unionists and nine others voted against.
According to Fr. Gorman: “Catholics understand therefore, that a vote for Sinn F�in is a vote for the weakening of the institution of marriage and the right to life for all the unborn.” He added: “Sinn F�in opposition was crucial to defeating the amendment. No wonder then that many Catholics, not wanting to betray their conscience and their faith, won’t support the party.” On 1 October 2012, the DUP raised a petition of concern against a joint Sinn F�in and Green Party proposal by Sinn Fein and the Green party to allow full marriage rights for same sex couples.

Fr. Gorman noted: “Unionist parties opposed the motion but both Sinn F�in and the SDLP supported it. That the SDLP lent their support to the redefinition of marriage along same-sex lines surprised and disappointed many Catholics.” He concludes that Catholics “who uphold marriage” are beginning to look toward the DUP because it “promotes the biblical understanding of marriage as between one man and one woman.” Fr. Gorman was abroad this week and therefore unable to explain to The Impartial Reporter his evidence of Catholic support for the DUP, particularly in Fermanagh South Tyrone, which traditionally has a nationalist majority.
In response to the priest’s claims, DUP MLA Arlene Foster said: “There has been growing evidence for some time that stable devolution in Northern Ireland has allowed people to look beyond some of the traditional political barriers.” She added: “There have been a number of important debates within the Assembly and at Westminster in recent months where we are aware that people from a Catholic background will have supported the DUP stance,” adding that the DUP “wishes to attract support from people from every background.” Sinn F�in MLA Phil Flanagan added: “Regardless of what some people attempt to portray as fact, Sinn F�in is not in favour of abortion; the party voted against the extension of the 1967 Act to the north when it was proposed in the Assembly.

“However, Sinn F�in believe that where a woman’s life or mental health is at risk or in grave danger then the final decision on seeking a termination should rest with the woman.” On same sex marriage, he says: “Sinn F�in, as a party, advocates the right to social, economic, gender and cultural equality. This encompasses equality for all, irrespective of race, age, marital or family status, sexual orientation, physical or mental capacities, ethnicity, social origin, political or religious affiliations, or membership of the travelling Community.”


JOHNNY DOES NOT GAY MARRIAGE


FATHER JONES PLAYS WITH HIS DOLLS

JONES’ MANY TRAVELS

Our Lady, Queen of the Fairies, Pray for us.

91 thoughts on “HOGAN – GORMAN AND JONES – A BIZARRE TRIO OF PRIESTS

  1. I think Jones is possibly a harmless – I would hope, though wouldn’t care to put it to the test – eccentric, of a type not so uncommon at one time as described by Peter Anson: oddballs turning up first at one monastery then another. Hogan and Gorman though are parish priests, and I wouldn’t go anywhere near them, let alone give them access to schools. Priests are only empowered through collusion of the laity, BUT in the case of education that is not actually true, certainly in Ireland. Just as the Irish people to their huge credit have voted with their feet on gay marriage and provision of legal safe abortion, so the disenfranchisement of the clergy from the school system should be the next objective. I mean, HONESTLY, would you want any of these characters addressing your children or having any kind of contact with them? Funny how these types of priests are always banging on about the family, yet their preaching is vicious, hurtful and divisive: pack your gay sons and pregnant daughters off to England, and keep sinners off the sacraments! Since when have priests had squeaky clean hands?

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    1. I was beginning to wonder what contemplative order Fr. Jones had not been in at some point! Rather vague!
      Was Fr. Brendan Smyth a member of the Norbertine Order and based in Kilnacrott?
      Fr. Jones video of the puppets is peculiarly odd and a little disconcerting.

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      1. Yes. Smyth was Kilnacrott.

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    2. Gay marriage is an oxymoron.

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      1. Do you feel better, and right with God, now that you have made that point? What does it matter to you anyway?

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  2. Thanks Pat you lifted my spirit, I feel quite sane after watching the bear video. So fairies in Eire is true!!!!
    Monk my arse!!!!!! Worryingly dangerous man…

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  3. Ah ya, vote for politicians because of their abstract moral ideologies rather than their economic policies.
    The reality is that it’s the economic policies the really effect every household. The morality of getting decent healthcare, education and housing for every family is what people should vote on. Finance these is key but people will vote away their standard of living to prevent Mary down the road from getting an abortion or Joe getting a divorce. Narrow mindedness has sunk this country into a backwash

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  4. Yes Pat it is strange that three priests would believe in Catholic moral teaching and be willing to put their necks on the line for it. So strange in these days of quintessentially Protestants masquerading as Catholic clergy. The Bishops or priests who have the balls to stand up for the real faith are few

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    1. Yes balls alright- oddballs and head the balls.

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  5. Jesus, Mary and Joseph! 😲
    I don’t know what to say about Fr David Jones, except that he comes across as irritatingly and bumblingly bipolar. Clearly, a hermits’ lifestyle is not helping his mental health. Then again, living as a hermit keeps him, and his maddening voice and antics, away from everyone else (except when he’s being interviewed by ‘my name is Fr Owen Gorman’ Was he baptised with the title ‘Father’?).
    Why did Gorman think that interviewing this clown would help anyone’s faith? And for a ‘hermit’, Jones seems to spend an inordinate amount of time in other people’s company
    By the way Fr Owen, Slemish mountain is nowhere near the Church of Ireland cathedral in Downpatrick: Slemish mountain is in County Antrim, not in County Down

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    1. Oddly enough i got over superficial irritation at “his maddening voice and antics” and found edification in what he said.

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      1. And what did he say that edified you?

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  6. Here we go again. Pat the Crap Bogus Bishop is encouraging the worst possible reaction to these 3 priests. They may be eccentric and old fashioned in their views but they are harming no one. Indeed they get good receptions at their masses. People are taught their long forgotten faith from them. I applaud all of them. There are other guys who deserve greater scrutiny – like that Larne boyo!

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    1. Quite right, 12.49 am. They are good priests, even if we disagree with them on abortion and so on. Holding people up to ridicule only boomerangs on the mocker.

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      1. I think they have left themselves wide open to ridicule playing with dolls and suchlike.

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      2. Ridicule is one of the pins that puncture their balloons of superiority and specialness.

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  7. Actually these priests are pretty au courant with the present state of the Irish church. The high camp of Fr Jones is a way of being himself, quite fearlessly, and that should be appreciated. “This army of non-consecrated arms is not healthy” he rants; but he is right that Irish liturgy needs to be renewed spiritually.

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    1. 11.10: Buckkey, you assigned the words superiority and specialness to these priests. Rightly so! They deserve praise not your derogatory nonsense and hatred. You are the lowest of the low. Your continual harrassing of good priests is nauseating. In fact, your daily viewing into other peopke’s lives is a psychological disorder and sickness. It’s a perversion in its own way. Sadly, Pat, you have a long pathway to walk before you achieve the moral integrity, decency, commitment and fideity to God that these so called “bizarre” priest have achieved. Your malicious intent towards these men is reprehensible and undeserving.

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      1. If I had a choice between these trio of loonies and Bp Pat I think I would indicate to my sat nav to direct me to Larne.

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  8. Isn’t Fr Jones in the Diocese of Meath and not in Armagh archdiocese? Poor Tom Deenihan must be yearning to be back in Cork. What has he to say about the Robert Troy fiasco and the scandal it has brought to the diocese? And at a funeral!

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  9. Fly on Th Wall 29th Jan 2019 — 8:26 am

    Reminds me of Delaney’s donkey this lot hi. Politics will never control conscience. If all corporal fr jonsey has is an auld Garfield and a piggy wiggy sure lave him alone the cratur but

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  10. Extract from The Mirror last year: A convert to Catholicism from a one-time calling to be a Baptist minister, Fr David came to Ireland under the permission of Bishop Michael Smith of the Diocese of Meath, who he says has protected him as a hermit.

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    1. Why did he need protection?

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    2. I have a friend who has become a diocesan hermit. The world is full of contemplatives who have never heard the term. God makes contemplatives why do you need a bishop?

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  11. It’s online Bishop Pat. Just google it. But, seeing as Bishop deenihan has inherited a lot from Bishop Smith, perhaps Bishop Smith can enlighten us about the Robert Troy issue. Perhaps Pat you could visit Multyfarham and invite the parishioners to a meeting? Hear their views? Seeing as neither Bishop Smith nor Bishop Deenihan is saying anything about the issue.

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  12. Has David Jones got piles? He was squirming on his seat throughout the interview as if something uncomfortable was up his backside.

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  13. Pat, sad to see you targeting people to ridicule again. Can you not think of a worthwhile subject for discussion?

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    1. What about Hogan targetting Troy?

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      1. “What about Hogan targetting Troy?”
        That’s a childish response.

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      2. True, Pat. Hogan did target the politician. Might have been better had he targeted his bishop instead. But there’s no need for us to target people. We should be able for a mature discussion. In any case Hogan did us a favour. He exposed the can of worms that the bishops and leading clergymen are not taking responsibility and informing the discussion as best they can. Note their silence. That’s the same silence that pro life people have endured for thirty years.

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      3. What about Troy targetting unborn babies?

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  14. @10:21 do you not think that excluding someone from communion and delving beneath it all is not a worthwhile discussion? The editor of The Sunday Times certainly thought so.

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    1. Some of the discussion yesterday was good esp with Magna’s input but your blog piece today seems deliberately skewed to encourage ridicule. What would the Sunday times know anyway. They are part of the media the enemy of the people.

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      1. Anon@ 10:42; Frs. Hogan, Jones,and Gorman have put themselves in the public domain on Catholic television and social media. I’m not interested in ridiculing anyone, but in the context of Fr. Hogan’s action re Mr. Troy, Fr. Hogan has drawn attention and curiosity on himself, particularly if he has not followed due process in Canon law.
        That appears to be the case. This is a highly sensitive problematic issue, particularly in America.

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      2. I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: Oh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it.”

        (Letter to Étienne Noël Damilaville, May 16, 1767)

        Voltaire

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  15. Pat, can you Please ask someone in authority to shed light on the Hogan/Troy fiasco? And the official line in the Diocese of Meath. If Deenihan is away, has Smith any say? If not, there are two Vicars General. Can you get an official response? Or can you get a response from Armagh about it?

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    1. I second the request @ 10:29. Can the archbishop give clear guidance on this issue?
      Are other, more prominent politicians, going to be denied communion due to their position on abortion?

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      1. If you are waiting on a response from Ara Coeli Amy you will be waiting a very long time. Best not to hold your breath.

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    2. You yourself, Priest Buckley at 12:13pm, are your own worst enemy and thus God has made you UTTERLY ridiculous indeed, in the sight of most people.
      You are a bitter and spiteful man with nothing to occupy yourself all day but nasty sniping at others.

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      1. I wonder why you read this blog then 12.41 If you are so opposed to what’s being said on here? Is it because your nosiness gets the better of you?

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  16. Who is Fr Hogan’s Vicar Forane? Would he have any statement to make? Or would it be one of the Vicars General? Seeing as both bishops are radio silence

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    1. 10:38-
      Tonto ( of the Lone Ranger) and Silver;
      and both have done a runner!
      Hi-Yo Silver, Away! 🐴

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  17. It’s near impossible to look up priests on the Meath website. You have to look up parishes. Used to be able to look up priests and find where they were. Some have been updated. For instance Fr Campbell the new Secretary is listed as Mullingar, which is correct; but Dermot Farrell is still down as Dunboyne PP VG. Yet Fr Robert McGivney is no longer listed as Mullingar and I’m not sure he appears in any other parish listing, it’s hard to navigate. Where is he? Where is Fr Dwayne Gavin? Or are they on sabbatical? Who updates the website? The older way was easier to check

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    1. I find the current Meath website difficult too.

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    2. They make it very user unfriendly for a reason. Think about it.

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      1. At this stage Im surprised these diocesan sites name their priests at all. Not doing so would help them cover up more.

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    3. Both McGivney have left the priesthood. McGivney left last year, reasons unclear but lot of gossip about it. Wayne I heard had found love…

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    4. NOYB

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  18. Excluding some ( actually the majority if we are frank ) from communion, and getting into a tizzy over “unconsecrated” hands touching the Host is what makes a mockery of our faith. It runs contrary to the ministry of Jesus which the Eucharist re-presents: community and sacrifice are dependent, not exchangeable. In John’s gospel, Jesus tells his disciples they must “chew” on his flesh, which shows he had a very different and more robust understanding the Eucharist than obsessing about possible violations of liturgical rubrics.

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    1. quite right, Anonymous 11:18 a.m. But at least Frs Gorman and Jones are not lambasting and mocking others as so many rightists do. The pope just said: “In some Catholic communications media, there is no compassion,” the pope said. Instead, one finds “schism, condemnation, malice, fury, self-aggrandizement (and) the denunciation of heresy.”

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  19. I feel for the Meath Chronicle reporter who interviewed such a disordered and bumbling mind as David Jones. Jones was all over the place, both verbally and conceptually. And I should expect such erratic behaviour to be mirrored as confusion in Jones’ religious life. And it was! Cistercian, Carthusian, Norbertine, Diocesan hermit: I should NEVER ordain such a man.
    He definitely has mental-health issues. Utterly bizarre.😕

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    1. He is an associate of Hogan so what does that say about Hogan?

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      1. Whatever you think it says about him, the principle of guilty by association is debased law and debased morality.

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      2. Yes, all associates and all peddling the same ultramontane right wing clap trap. All barking and all need sent to the St John of Gods for immediate assessment.

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  20. 12.01 The post tells us absolutely ziltch. May as well not have added any post, total waste of time. Come back when you have more concrete info.

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  21. Fr Owen Gorman looks like a clone of Arlene Foster. Are they related? Maybe we could get him a Crown brooch to wear on his surplice.

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  22. Jones needs a therapeutic fose of litium, or ritalin.

    One of the characteristics of a GENUINE contemplative relationship with God is personal calmness. Jones is highly excitable and aggressive in his behaviour, not calm and collected.

    Where’s that medication?😅

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    1. You are right Magna. Meditation changes the neuroplasticity of the brain. They now have CT scans of mediators brains. They are different.

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    2. 2:07;
      That depends on presenting symptoms and subsequent diagnosis!

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      1. 2:58
        Yes, it does. And if you watch enough videos featuring Jones (more are available on YouTube than appear on this blog), those symptoms you seek seem fairly obvious in some of them and can suggest bipolar disorder, or hyperactivity disorder.

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    3. 2.07: Magna – dose instead of “fose” and lithium instead of “litium”. Just being correct. I hate misspellings. Wondering though if you’re taking excessive amounts yourself? Your behaviour, dear Magna, both psychologically/psychiatrically requires moderation through medication.

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  23. Sorry, Bp Pat, but I could only bear to watch little snippets of each video.
    I imagine even the most haggish of faghags would advoid that trio.

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    1. @ 4:12;
      Magna,
      One video was one too many! If I was to watch more, I might have to resort to medication! 😜

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      1. 5:19

        If you can stretch yourself a little more, make the effort to watch Jones’ video on Halloween. It’s a recording of a radio interview with him on the subject by some local radio station.

        Jones thoroughly disapproves of customs like trick-or-treating, not because they’re adopted Americanisms, but because he believes such customs to be based on ancient pagan ritual dedicated to evil. He is right about the origin of at least some of these, but he takes it all far too seriously. His facial contortions, especially as he speaks, are entertainnent in their own right.

        What really is harmless fun, Jones sees as a revival of pagan practice. (I must tell this to the next clutch of youngsters who call at my home on Halloween night, eyes expectantly aglow, and scold them before offering exorcism as the only remedy for their plight. I’m sure they’ll understand.)

        I’m tempted to think that station staff took it all with an amused pinch of salt because, in a corner just behind the crackpot, is what looks like a coffin lid.

        Does Jones cart this around as a reminder of his mortality?

        Or were station staff just taking the piss?

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  24. If I had a choice between these trio of loonies and Bp Pat I think I would indicate to my sat nav to direct me to Larne.

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    1. 7:30
      I eventually found the video on Halloween. For a man who is a hermit praying for the world, etc, he certainly spends plenty of time on YouTube. Has Fr. Jones an assistant with camera work and editing, etc?
      Did you catch the reference to a Carmelite seminary at the beginning? What was that about? Was Fr. Jones in a Carmelite seminary? Is he an exorcist or an appointed exorcist? I see what you mean, Magna! In charity, nuff said!

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  25. Bp Pat, Jones has 700 subscribers and countless videos on his Youtube channel, including “Coping with verbal diarrhoea.”

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    1. A Hi Some video that diarrhoea wan. Is there a meaning to it. Is it reality that’s being put off hi Need a cuppa tay but

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  26. A shinner all my life but will never vote for them again when they advocate abortion and the killing of selfless human beings!

    Should change there name to ‘Shame Fein.’

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  27. Nuns who accused RC bishop Mullakal of New Delhi of rape are being sent to different parts of the country in an attempt to silence them. Looks like Francis commitment to a new spirit of openess in relation to abuse is working well! NOT. The cover ups continue. Wonder would super priest Hogan refuse the said bishop communion?? A lot of toss

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  28. Front page of Attitude.co.uk has a Greek Orthodox Bishop found guilty of inciting hate. He urged his blog followers to spit on gays as not human and rejects of nature. The Orthodox have a pretty unpleasant reputation which makes one wonder what they are covering up in their own clergy. What is wrong with these people?

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  29. A random comment on one of Jones Youtube videos urged him to relocate to St Hugh’s, Parkminster, the only Carthusian monastery in the United Kingdom.
    I doubt Elsie would approve somehow, Bp Pat, she’s probably had enough with Hogan praying for the stars.

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    1. He goes shopping 3 times a week in full habit and cloak.

      He drives a csr.

      He could do none of things in the Carthusians.

      I do not think he is a real hermit.

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      1. A town in Austria is looking for a new hermit, Bp Pat, some old poofter preferred, after the previous one retired.
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-38779704/wanted-mountain-hermit

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    2. None of Elsie’s business what Parkminster does. The Prior is in charge under the Order, and the Charterhouse is in Arundel and Brighton, whose Metropolitan is Southwark.

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  30. Bishop Pat,
    Why have the bishop(s) of Meath all gone to ground? The poor people of Meath don’t know whether they’re coming or going. Pat, please pray for Meath and if you can ‘offer a fast’. Pat would you get in contact with the local radio station and offer your observations on the debacle? It might embarrass the bishop(s) of Meath to say something … anything.

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    1. Sounds like there is some sort of gonetroversy in Meath, Bp Pat? A sleazy scandal, perhaps, or some sort of fraud.

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  31. LillieThe Crack Bat 29th Jan 2019 — 9:02 pm

    8.58: Hyperbole at its most excessive! You’re a mad, raving, stupid commentator. A most inane, supercilious comment. Simply troublemaking. Get real about real issues, you imbecile.

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    1. 9:02;
      Has either of the bishops clarified the diocesan position on the matter?

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  32. Gorman is not a PP – last year’s Clogher changes – Fr Owen Gorman, CC Castleblayney (Muckno), to be Priest in Residence Aughnamullen East, supporting Pastoral Ministry in the Mid-Monaghan Area.

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  33. @9:02
    The only hyperbole is in those videos at the beginning of the blog. Many people in the diocese of Meath are disgusted at what happened, regardless of how they voted. It is shameful that neither bishop has said anything on the matter.

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  34. @9:02 if you listened to the shite in one of the videos above you would notice that the priest asks people to ‘offer a fast’. That’s what 8:58 was tongue-in-cheek referring to

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  35. What is the official teaching on refusing someone communion? All the armchair failed would-be professors of Canon Law who have STLs and DCL’s in canon law might enlighten us

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  36. Bishop Michael Smith has a DCL could he tell us?

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  37. Pat, what has the ACP to say on the matter?

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    1. F all

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  38. Between the viagra and the prune juice they don’t know whether they’re coming or going!

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    1. 11:52;
      They’re gone…to ground.
      Not to found.
      As mute as ever…!😷

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  39. I do find it strange that a hermit would be so much in the public eye on YouTube.
    But I find equally strange the idea that a diocesan bishop, who will usually surely be a diocesan priest, would have responsibility for diocesan hermits!

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