SEX ABUSE PROBE PRIEST IN COURT TODAY.

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YESTERDAY’S SUNDAY WORLD ARTICLE

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LONG SUFFERING VICTIM SINEAD

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SINEAD COMFORTING ANOTHER VICTIM

ARTICLE TEXT – STORY BY HUGH JORDAN

“A Catholic cleric wanted by police over a string of alleged child sex crimes has returned from his Spanish bolthole, The Sunday World can reveal.

Fr. John Murray (78) a parish priest in the Diocese of Down and Connor – flew into Dublin from Tenerife on Thursday evening.

It is understood he completed the rest of the journey north to Belfast by road.

Detectives from the PSNI Care Unit are keen to speak with concerning three separate complaints of child sex abuse relating to his time as curate in St. Matthew’s Parish in the Short Strand district of Belfast.

Three years ago Fr. Murray was forced to step down from his post as parish priest of St. Mary’s, Rasharkin, following a complaint of sexual abuse by a middle aged mother of three grown up children.

Since then two other female complaints have come forward with similar allegations. 

All of the cases are historic and relate to Murray’s time in the east Belfast parish.

A spokesman from the church later confirmed the matter had also been referred to the appropriate authorities and that an investigation was pending.

Following the personal intervention by Bishop Noel Treanor Fr. Murray moved out of the Parochial House in Rasharkin and briefly stayed at a Catholic Church-owned care home at Newcastle Co. Down.

But before the police had an opportunity to quiz him about the allegations he upped sticks and fled to the Canary Islands where he stayed until a few days ago.

In response to police pressure Fr Murray’s solicitor speaking on his behalf claimed that on the advice of a medical expert at a clinic he attended in Spain Fr Murray was deemed too ill to travel.

The Sunday World investigations revealed that Fr Murray was in fact living in considerable luxury at an upmarket resort in the North of Tenerife where he played golf most days.

Last September we were told that the veteran priest was making arrangements to return to Belfast to face police questions and that he expected in the city by early November.But the plans fell through without any proper explanation.

Yesterday. Father Murray’s solicitor Denis Maloney of Donnelly and Wall in Belfast confirmed his client was back on Northern Irish soil for the first time in nearly three years. 

“Fr Murray arrived back on Thursday night. He is the company of his family who are acting as his carers”, he said.

“Father Murray will now undergo a thorough medical examination. When that is complete he will be happy to make himself available for questioning to the appropriate authorities”.

Last night, Sinead Gorman, one of the complainants – who waived her right to anonymity in an effort to move the case forward – said she was glad to see movement in the case.

Yesterday, head of PSNI Public Protection Branch, Chief Superintendent Paula Hillman said: “Detectives are continuing to investigate allegations of historical sexual abuse made against a member of the clergy in east Belfast”.

ADDED BY PAT

On Saturday, in an unexpected development, Father Murray was arrested and detained at Musgrave Street police station in Belfast.

He is expected to be before the courts today.

SUB JUDICE

 

Now that Father Murray has appeared before the court the matter becomes sub-judice – “under judicial consideration and prohibited from discussion elsewhere”.

That means, that neither I or comment makers can comment about the case.

Now, the course of justice must be allowed to take place.

Anybody with anything to say about these matters should now contact the PSNI Public Protection Branch by calling the PSNI exchange on 02890 650222.

 

 

 

105 thoughts on “SEX ABUSE PROBE PRIEST IN COURT TODAY.

  1. The silence from Down and Connor is deafening. Another skittle falls.

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  2. Fr Chad Ripperger – psychologist, philosopher, theologian and authorised diocesan exorcist – gives a detailed analysis of the reasons for the collapse in priestly morality:

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    1. 8:39
      Is your name Dopey?
      Did you seriously think that anyone in his right mind (except you, of course) was going to sit through over an hour of this crap? Especially when it comes from longwinded, American nutters so far off the scale of common sense that they are yet to be categorised?

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      1. @ 8.39
        Thank you or your post. Found Fr. Ripperger very informative. No problem with the length of the video.

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      2. Magna, this must be the first time I am agreeing with you. 😀

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    2. 6:31

      Well, I did suggest that no one in his right mind would…😅

      😆

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    3. Fr Ripperger is a REAL priest. God bless him!

      If there were only more like him.

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      1. Yeah. And a real conspiracy theorist, homosexually obsessed, extreme right-wing fantasist. (Did I add ‘nutjob’, too?😆)

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    4. Excellent point-by-point scholarly analysis by Fr Ripperger. A far more accurate assessment than the trite “clericalism” excuse spouted by many.
      Thank-you for this post.

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      1. 9:16
        I actually took the trouble to listen to about 25 mins of the pseudo-theological, pre-Vatican 1, rigid theological humbug this priest was speaking.
        Tell me: what was scholarly about his contribution? The very least a scholar can do (must do, in fact) is offer evidence (CREDIBLE evidence) to substantiate his arguments. I heard nothing, not a sausage, during the time I listened that even remotely backed up anything this priest said. And the radio presenter was as impartial (and as crtical in his reaction) as ‘Pravda’ during the carefree, liberal times of the Soviet Union.
        It is the kind of dogmatism, of various kinds, this priest wants to revive that is at the heart of the crisis in the Church today. And it is clericalism by another name.
        This is the cry of the desperate, looking for quick fixes by turning back the clock on Church governance, canon law, liturgy, moral doctrine…even, in large part, the teachings of an ecumenical council, The Second Vatican Council.
        Don’t you braindead fools understand that it is from this kind of ecclesial past that the present turmoil emerged?
        Go read some George Santayana.

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  3. Now let proper justice take its course. And pray for all victims/survivors. Let’s not sit smugly behind laptops analysing the wrongs of others. Perhaps today we should look within and see our own faults, sins and need of God’s grace. Prayer, fasting and sacrifice are the essentials for Lent so that we become “empty” enough to make greater room for God in our hearts.

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    1. @ 8.59
      Amen.

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    2. Just Saying... 11th Mar 2019 — 9:25 am

      All good, yes. But, you, me and millions of others have not egregiously abused young children and vulnerable people. I’m not feeling smug at all. I’m well aware of my failings and sins. But, I would never have done what those clergy did. So please don’t tell me that I should look in to my own soul, when I can see such evil around me. Why shouldn’t I call it out ?!

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      1. 9.25: It is all too easy to analyse and criticise. All too easy to become smug in our outrage — unless of course, apart from naming and calling out all abuse and those responsible – we each know our own wrongs and sins – and respond justly, caringly and compassionately to all in need, all who suffer, all who have little of life’s blessings. Now this will seriously test our Christ-like-ness.

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    3. Feck off Mother Teresa. Pious clap trap, you were on about the rosary yesterday. Just go away. Take your stupid piety with you and shove it up your hole

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      1. 1.29: Not at all the same person going on about the “Rosary”. But I think you could do with reciting a few decades for your cynicism and with cynicism comes ugly cimnentary. And, the Rosary IS a beautiful PRAYER!!

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      2. @ 1.29
        Why are you on a religious site?
        When Jesus was teaching the Our Father would you have told him to stick it up his hole?
        Could you not find yourself another hobby?

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      3. There’s nothing wrong with the Rosary. If it’s not for you there’s no problem. Pray as you can not as you can’t

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    4. Yes, 8:59, ‘Father’ dear. Let us all look away from what the Christ-betrayers have done, in the name of Jesus, of course.

      Let us all give them a moral (and legal!) pass. After all, aren’t we all sinners now? All in need of God’s mercy?

      I wish I had your throat within reach, you self-serving, sanctimonious bastard!

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      1. LillieThe Crack Bat 11th Mar 2019 — 5:43 pm

        3.20: Mags, the rotter, with a shrivveled and almost cremated brain (from drink), if I was close to your throat! (the very thought of your putrid breath has me vomiting already) but … I would do more than look at it. You wouldn’t be standing, you self serving (mad) sanctimonious bastardo hypocrite…..just sayin’ like…..

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      2. MAGNA'S MUMSY..😣😣😣 11th Mar 2019 — 5:50 pm

        3.20: Magna, dear, mummy doesn’t like when you lose your rag. You give the game away; you let the family name down and we can’t afford to be losers in front of neighbours. You’re making my sitting in the front seat of our Church embarrising. I’m being overwhelmed with concerns about your mental well being. Dearie, have you stopped taking your sanax or is it the auld bottle that seems permanently fixed to your mouth…I’ll pray for you at mass tomorrow, but after today’s comments from you, I’ll stay in the loo! Mummy loves ya!

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      3. 3.20: Magna, what takes hold of you that you sink into your depraved, insulting and abusive mode? My comment at 8.59 is a genuine comment and heartfelt. Why the need to continually dismiss, name call and be so ignorant? Why? Indeed, if God was TRULY present in our hearts – TRULY – we’d have less abuses, including your abuses!

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    5. 5:43
      Bellarmine…dear. Weren’t you told by your Christ-betraying Roman Catholic confessor to stay away from this blog.
      By the way, your new username, Lillie The Crackpot, suits you.
      And says it all.😆

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      1. LillieThe Crack Bat 11th Mar 2019 — 6:58 pm

        6.15: Maggie dear, you are so off re: Bellarmine: not at all who you think Lillie The Crackpot is! You are so off! Isn’t your brain a little sgarper than that? Nowcyiu’re having cognitive behavioural dissonancevthatbyou are mixingbup all the pseudonyms! You wiuld be very surprised to know how close I am to you….🐴🐗😎😎😎

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      2. Mad Magna Carta at 6;15PM
        Polly I see you are still on the Gargle, I have never posted any comment on this blog since my last post answering your inquiry as to why you had noticed I had not posted any comment for some time. Your cohort Patsy will be able to confirm this.
        love and prayers Bellarmine
        Evviva Maria.

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    6. 5:50
      Mommie Dearest told me this: ‘Magna darling, absolutely never, ever talk to strangers. And this includes your father.’
      So go away, you impostor!😬
      😆

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      1. 6.32: Mag dearie, mummy is really concerned now. I have lots of cookies left for you. Call by and I’ll sit you on my knee like when you were a wee lad. You loved me singing lullabys to you. And when you started to nod off it was such a sight. Wouldn’t my attention once again help you get over your traumas? Mummy cares. 😋😋😋🦁🦁

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    7. 6:58
      Lillie The Crackpot (aka Barking Bellarmine), you’re slurring your words, dearie. 😆

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    8. Barking Bella at 7:10, you were told by your confessor to stay away from this blog; this is what you told readers here.
      You are either disobeying him, or you weren’t telling the truth about him.
      I suspect that you have posted other times since, though not under ‘Bellarmine’. Your style is, shall we say, ‘distinctive’?😆

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      1. MC at 11:46
        Polly You really must come off The Gargle it’s making you paranoid! I was made aware that you were insulting me yet again when a friend phoned to let me know. We all know that you post under different names your style is so ‘distinctive’ so don’t judge other’s by your own duplicity. You are the biggest Christ-betrayer on Patsy’s blog as you betray Our Blessed Lord in every vile comment you post . I tell you in charity Repent while you still have time I can almost hear the crackle of the flames that will surround you soon for all eternity.
        Love and prayers B.
        Evviva Maria!

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    9. 1:03

      Naughty Barking Bellarmine. You are being evasive.

      Which is it? Are you disobeying your confessor by posting here again after he expressly forbade you from doing so?

      Or did you lie to us all about him?

      Hmm?😆

      Too cowardly to answer?

      Oh, dear! You just may have to run back to him to confess your vile sin and infidelity. What penance might he impose on you, then?

      A vow of perpetual silence, hopefully.😅

      😆

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      1. MC at 2:14

        Naughty Naughty Polly I am not taking part in any discussion on poor Patsy’s blog I am dealing with You. I most certainly am not a coward as well you know ,a vow of perpetual silence from you is what is needed as long as you keep insulting me expect to get it back, if you don’t mention me you wont hear from me.

        love and prayers B.
        Evviva Maria!

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  4. Just Saying... 11th Mar 2019 — 9:21 am

    I respect that fact that we must be careful in what we say and write now that the matter is in the hands of the PSNI. Fr Murray may have been arrested, perhaps even charged, but whether the matter will go to court will depend on the Prosecutor’s advice as to whether there is a realistic prospect of conviction, and whether it is in the public interest to prosecute. So, there are still a number of steps to go before Fr Murray would appear in court. Even if these cases do not go to court, the Church will then need to hold its own inquiry in to these accusations. The Church’s threshold for upholding these accusations is lower than in the secular courts, so even if not prosecuted, Fr Murray may well find that he is deemed responsible for his behaviour and the subject of ecclesiastical censure.

    Just on the secular courts – Fr Murray is an old man now. However, I am aware of a case not so long ago where a man who was 101 was sent to prison for 7 years in the UK for historical crimes. Age is no guarantee of staying out of prison if the courts find you guilty.

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  5. Amy A. and Elsie W. are always good for a natter though.

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    1. Amy and Elsie had a falling out in Rome recently and a very public showdown so they are not in the habit of having a natter. Two different individuals, chalk and cheese. Elsie is more educated and experienced. E Martin is a blow in and totally out of his depth.

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      1. I wonder what it was about?

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      2. The Press showed a photo of Elsie clearly scolding Eamonn. It was very telling. I have never seen Elsie looking so cross in public and have never seen Eamon look so taken aback

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      3. Arguing over men probably.

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      4. Elsie doesn’t like this blog. It has been brought to her attention by some nasty queens. She is probably saying to Amy, “Can’t you do something about this Buckley and what he’s writing about us”? Has anyone seen this picture of the showdown?

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      5. Did Elsie waves his hand? If so then that’s when you know he’s lost his temper. I fear Elsie is losing the plot, he never loses his cool in public. That’s if the picture in question exists and is authentic.

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      6. And Amy’s saying back: “I’ve tried upteen times, dear, including solicitors’ letters… blah, blah, blah… how do you like my new lace, pet?”

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      7. There’s a great photo of Elsie telling off Damian Thompson.

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  6. @9:21 You are wrong in saying that in the modern church that, “The Church’s threshold for upholding these accusations is lower than in the secular courts”.
    FYI – read the Inzoli case. This current papacy only acts when pressured by the secular judiciary:
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/31/zero-tolerance-the-facts-dont-support-the-popes-claims-on-child-abuse
    You speak much nonsense ‘Just Saying’.

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    1. 09:40. Take some time to read that article carefully rather than just speed reading the title. If you did so you would see that there are multiple channels through which a priest can be sanctioned, and multiple sanctions that can be applied. Dismissal from the priestly state / laicisation is only one, perhaps the most serious. In every case many factors are taken in to account, and I would like to suggest to you one that might be the reason why every priest who is guilty of abusing children is not automatically kicked out of the priesthood. Before I get to that, do remember also that there is a wide spectrum of offences which come under the catch all title of abuse of children, everything from the over affectionate embrace that might be seen as something questionable to full blown abuse such as rape. Any legal or canonical system has to distinguish between these and apply law and sanction appropriately, and that means proportionately. So not every priest who has fallen under the wide banner of abusive behaviour is worthy of being punished with the most stringent sanction such as laicisation.

      So, the one thing I would like you to consider is this. Ejecting somebody who has a history of transgression in the area of abuse would mean that person is let loose with no supervision or oversight, and we know from experience that when that happens the likelihood of reoffending is very high, not just in abuse cases but in any criminal behaviour. So, is it not sensible to keep that person in some category within the supervision and oversight of the Church – in a life of prayer and penance – rather then just washing our hands of them ? Doing so is not going easy on them, it is rather taking on a responsibility which the Church should take on in order to ensure that reoffending is unlikely.

      We do not always know the facts and considerations behind every case that we hear about. They can be many and varied in seriousness, scope and damage done. It is for the courts, both secular and canonical, to weigh up the guilt and appropriate sanction. That judgement may not always accord with a “flog em, hang em” attitude that is lacking in nuance and proportion because it has not taken in to consideration all the facts, and which does not do real justice in the end, either to victim or perpetrator.

      Is that still ‘nonsense’ to you, 0940 ? If so, take some time to consider it before a knee-jerk reaction. You know you owe it to yourself !

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      1. 10:12
        Your post is an evasion of the commentor’s criticism.
        The fact that there is an ascending scale of sanctions available to a canonical court is neither here nor there. What IS relevant is that Pope Francis has publicly declared zero-tolerance towards priests found guilty by such a court. Reasonable interpretation of this statement is that offending priests will be laicised, and this widespread public perception has never been denied by Pope Francis. To allow an offending priest not only to remain a cleric, but to engage in limited public ministry is nothing if not tolerance of such men. I’m surprised that you cannot see this. Then again, perhaps you don’t wish to.
        Pope Francis has engaged in mental reservation before the world on this matter. A rather stupid thing to do, since mental reservation has exactly the same effect on others that outright lying does: it erodes trust. Considering that trust in the institutional Church is now almost universally denuded, it is hardly wise to test public patience further by engaging in such a, er, Jesuitical tactic. But then, Francis is not the wisest of men, is he? Nor the world’s most machiavellian diplomat (though, I confess, he does try)? Because he keeps being rumbled.😆

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      2. OMG JS! can you not read? Can you not comprehend what point on the ‘spectrum’ Inzoli is on? You equivocating fool!

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    2. Elsie, like most Brits, gets confused and/or is totally clumsy, about the occupied six counties.
      Old Else was probably giving Amy a good telling off, for sending the former Dean of Belfast to mince around More House and Westminster Cathedral, until the PSNI reeled him in again.
      Elsie not knowing the difference between Down and Connor and Armagh, Amy Martin and Noelle Treanor, in much the same way that stupid cow of an NI SoS knows feck all about Northern politics and cares even less about the relatives of those murdered by agents of the British State.

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      1. I saw the picture where, allegedly, Nichols is giving Martin a “telling off”.
        Bullshit. He’s doing no such thing. They are simply having a discussion and Vin got snapped during an animated moment.

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  7. You speak pure tripe JS @ 9:21.
    Anybody who has been abused by a priest in any way, go straight to the secular authorities. Do not go near the any member of the Church, clerical or lay.

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    1. 9:54 Do elaborate, please ! Where is the tripe I am supposed to have spoken ? Another knee jerk reaction, it seems. I do wish people would read things carefully, and then take some time to consider their response. It is becoming tiresome having to wade through such ill considered thought processes – although that is to suggest there is a thought process at work !

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      1. You should keep your sayings to yourself “Just Saying”.

        I believe that you are somebody who has an ulterior motive with your garbled and unrealistic posts.

        Go now and do your ‘spiritual exercises’.

        As a priest, you seem to have much time on your hands. Strange?

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    2. Bang on 9:54! If you go to the church it just gives them an opportunity to establish your intentions.

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      1. Just Saying.... 11th Mar 2019 — 10:57 am

        10:32….have you heard about retirement ? It’s fun ! And leaves lots of time to do the things one enjoys. And, if you had a good job like me (not as a priest !) you have a good pension, and savings, and property, and you can live quite comfortably. So, I have a great deal of time to engage with this blog. Although, I do find the aggression a bit tiresome such as people engaging fingers tapping on the keyboard, before engaging the mind.

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      2. …and now a little bit of scarifying the lawn. It’s that time of year !

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      3. Yeah, yeah ‘Just Saying’. Run along now and mow your lawn.

        McCarrick and all the other boyos were enabled to run amok for years because of enablers like you.

        You should be on your knees offering up reparation for the outrageous sins and crimes perpetrated by your confreres.

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    3. @ 4.22 Magna
      I’m glad you agree with Fr. Ripperger on this. He explained things very well.

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  8. 10.59: Just Saying – Whoever you are, you are becoming, repetitive, tiresome, boring and uninteresting. We’ve geard the sameprose fromyou almost every day. Try and engage your own mind a little more creatively, intellectually and imaginatively. Please….Don’t become another Magna!!

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    1. Just Saying... 11th Mar 2019 — 1:33 pm

      10:59…It’s a blog, and I speak to the issue of the blog. Blame + Pat if its boring and repetitive. But it’s his blog, and he can choose what he wants as the subject for the day. I will continue to address that.

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      1. 1.33: But you’re still repetitively boring, ad nauseam….scarify your own inner weeds while doing the grass, you smug head!

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    2. I like Just Saying. His contributions are intelligent and balanced.

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    3. Oi! I heard that.
      Watchin’ you, chum.
      Watchin’ you.👀

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  9. It’s funny, the moniker ‘Just Saying’ doesn’t seem consonant with the age of a supposedly ‘retired’ priest.
    Just Saying…

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  10. Leave ‘Just Saying’ alone. I envy his retirement and enjoy his/her contributions on here. The person who keeps attacking him/her sounds like a disgruntled member of clergy. Get over yourself love.

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    1. MournemanMichael 11th Mar 2019 — 2:17 pm

      And I’d agree with that Anon @ 1.40. I recognise good sense and validity in JS’s comments. ‘Spose we just have to acknowledge the limitations of those who don’t, and their right to vent their frustration. Leaves me wondering if it’s simply inability to understand, or annoyance at valid observations.
      MMM

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    2. Just Saying, Just Saying, Just Saying… blah, blah, blah.

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  11. 8:59. I for one am not sitting smugly behind a keyboard and I am well aware of my own faults and failures. However I am pleased that in this case victims will now be heard in open court, having been denied their right to do so by the abscondence for three years by their alleged perpetrator. Victims of abuse and seeking justice for them should always be our priority. However it is difficult for victims to achieve justice when their accused abscond and are protected by a so called Christian organisation which is more interested in self preservation. I am pleased that the justice denied to victims will now take its course. Call it being smug if you will. I couldn’t care less

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  12. Just saying at 10:12. What a load of tripe. It is for the secular courts and those alone to determine guilt or innocence not the cannononical court. If they are found guilty by a secular court then they should face the sanction of that court and be automatically expelled from their clerical duties. The sooner that you realise that the church does not run countries the better. Commit them to a life of prayer under the supervision of the church? Are you mental? It was under the supervision of the church that they committed their crimes. Lock them up in jail where they belong and they can pray all they want

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    1. @2.23
      I thought the point he was making was that in cases where the Law can’t convict because the burden of proof doesn’t allow, then the Church should still send him somewhere he could do no harm.
      The problem is, they never DO send them to an enclosed order. Enclosed should mean enclosed.

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  13. Did Down on Connor pay Murray’s bills while he was, er, on extended leave in Spain?

    And did Murray set off on that, er, holiday the very day Noel Treanor and the other bloke, er, told him…whatever?

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    1. You got it in one, Magna !

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  14. I see a tweet by Brenda Marshall appeared on the local BBC news today. It concerned the lengthy queues at Belfast International Airport. Brenda advised people to leave plenty of time for their airport journey in her tweet. Between warnings of falling trees and now the airport, Brenda is trying to be Moneymores answer to Simon Calder.

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    1. 3.58: Attributing feminine pronouns to men is indicative of your stunted intellectual and emotional growth. Infantile behaviour. Your comment is absurd. What a concern to have…God help the world with twits and plonkers like you!

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      1. Thanks Brenda.

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      2. Oooh get her.

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  15. Precisely 2:23!
    All these pseudo priests who have abused any innocent child or vulnerable person have been protected and enabled for far too long under the church’s umbrella. They feel very comfortable within the church precisely because it has enabled, perpetuated and added longevity to their ‘careers’ of abuse.
    These devious scumbags have taken advantage of the fact that the only ‘oversight’ they had to worry about was some dozy, doddery or spineless bishop whom they ran rings around with their wormtongue lies.
    Turn them out of the church and allow them feel the full force of the secular law courts.
    Those unjust statutes of limitations have to be abrogated in the US.
    It must be more than galling for McCarrick’s victims to see him enjoying a nice cosy retirement living off a handsomely church funded pension, paid for by whom? You got it…the laity!

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    1. Defrocking means nothing to McCarrick coz the priesthood means nothing to him. No apology or public show of remorse from him either. Won’t be long though till he faces the judgement of God. It’s a crying shame he is not eating porridge in prison. I pity his victims.

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      1. 5:20
        You are absolutely right about men like McCarrick. Sentencing them to a life of ‘prayer and penitence’ 😅 is as pointless as it as a moral affront, since these men, obviously, never truly prayed, nor ever did penitence.
        The sanction is window dressing by the Vatican to give to the world the impression that it takes the criminal conduct of these clerics with the utmost gravity and urgency. But it all is a colossal sham, a deceit: canonical devices by a medievally disposed church hierarchy that were controversial even in the Middle Ages. (It is why that arrogant bastardo and so-called saint, Thomas Beckit, was put to the sword in Canterbury Cathedral.)😆

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  16. Just because people take issue with ‘JS’, ‘MMM’, does not imply incomprehension of his observations. It just means they don’t apply validity to them as you do. Capiche?

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  17. You couldn't make it up 11th Mar 2019 — 5:10 pm

    Zanchetta is taking part in Francis’s retreat.

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    1. 5:10
      You are right.
      There are two ways of understanding this, of which the more benign is that Pope Francis is trying to encourage a return to God by a man so deeply mired (allegedly) in sexual and administrative scandal. The other is that Francis, despite all the red flags raised against this man, is determined to show the world that he is standing by a brother bishop, just as he stood by Bishop Juan Carras of Chile.
      And we all know how that ended for il papa. (No chuckling in the back row.)
      Francis, it seems, doesn’t give a f**k what anyone thinks about him, because he is self-assured that God has his back as the ‘Vicar of Christ’. And this is his achilles heel.
      Poor dumb Francis. The Stan Laurel lookalike (same dopey grin) of the ecclesial world.

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  18. I cannot imagine Vincent Nicholls having much time for Eamon Martin; he is pretty contemptuous of his own brother bishops in E & W, though with good reason it has to be said. Even when still at Birmingham he was very much the man to go to for the press, since CMOC was such a hopeless waffler. I’m curious that even he is increasingly out of his depth and wrong-footed given the scale of the crisis – being a sound company man can no longer hold it together.
    Somebody mentioned Damian Thompson. Now there’s a name to conjure with, and none of it good. Who’s going to kick off?

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    1. You do mean Elsie and Emma?

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    2. There’s been criticism of the way he handled pervert clergy when he was Archbishop of Birmingham.
      “His actions as Archbishop of Birmingham when it came to child sexual abuse could be characterised as “see as little evil as possible, hear as little evil as possible, speak as little evil as possible” a lawyer has told the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse ” – https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/11135/cardinal-grilled-on-how-he-handled-sex-abuse-cases
      You have to wonder if he’s ‘a fit and proper person’ to be in charge of a diocese and its various associated institutions, such as schools, Catholic hospitals, Registered Charities, and so on.

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  19. The Catholic hierarchy is totally morally corrupt. Sentence them to a life of prayer and penance indeed. Cut off their tallywackers and dump them in prison would be more than just. Vile scum they are and that goes for anyone who abuses children or women. Off with their appendages I say

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  20. MAGNA'S MUMSY..😣😣😣 11th Mar 2019 — 7:33 pm

    7.10: There’s only one Magna’s Mummy. You are an impostor. Get behind me. Now I’m on the warpath over my Magna. I fear he’ll be abducted. Oh Magna dearest, come to mummy. Please lock the door tonight. 🦁🦁🦁🦁 – my little petteen!!

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  21. Abusing children whilst pretending to be a Christian leader is an act of blasphemy agai st God himself. These morally corrupt creatures need dealt with by the law of the land not by their church which facilitated and covered up their abuse in the first place. In fact anyone in their church who covered up abuse should also be charged with withholding evidence (Cardinal Brady comes to mind) . Filthy corrupt bastards is what they are. Who in their right mind, let alone someone who professes to follow Christ, would even dream of either carrying out abuse or actively cover it up. And we are supposed to trust these people to dispense justice according to canon law! Who the hell do they think they are? 7:01pm is right. Off with their tallywackers or feed these morally corrupt scum to the lions. Then they can abuse no one else. At all costs children must be protected from these sub human low lifes

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  22. Brady is still carrying out duties. He has basically been let off the hook. Amy doesn’t enjoy being seen in his company and avoids him like the plague. We can’t have Amys reputation damaged after all. Brady is not alone in Ireland at covering up abuse.

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    1. 8.24 Brady covered up nothing, he was part of a system that lived in a fantasy world who believed such Holy men could and would not commit crimes like abusing children.
      Was the parents of Smyths victims not guilty of protecting their children??? Sadly like all of society back then they believed priests could not be guilty of such wrong doing.
      Thank God the world and Church has changed and awakened up to these atrocious crimes against the most innocent.
      I was sexually abused by a close family member and never spoke to my parents about it till long after my abusers death, that sadly was the way society was.

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      1. Thanks John

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      2. Brady asked the victims if they enjoyed the unwarranted sex. Who the hell in their right minds asks such a question? He is being protected and he is bad if not worse than Pell because he knew the facts and did feck all. Hegarty in Derry the same. Why are the Church protecting these scroundels in Ireland?

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    2. Well, at least Miss Amy has some self-respect.

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      1. … a modicum of self-respect.

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  23. Fly on Th Wall 11th Mar 2019 — 9:59 pm

    I suppose Fr was brave to return to face the law. All these Aulder boys being evaluated on the past is one thing hi. What if anything is going on now that allegedly needs to be confronted. There’s yr challenge Bring on Superpriest Go get them hi.

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  24. 9:55pm. I’m sorry but Brady, regardless of what he believed or not, is guilty of covering up abuse of minors. Abuse of a minor is a crime in all civilised jurisdictions. Brady was legally obliged to bring those crimes he was aware of to the civil authorities. He did not and had children undertake not to either. This is cover up regardless of what his clerical masters thought. They, thank God, do not run society. Plain and simple he covered up abuse to protect the interests of his church and what’s more, the Roman Catholic Church of Christ betrayers are still at the same thing? They are a sad bunch of self serving scum who cover up the most heinous of crimes to protect their organisation. Brady should hang his head in shame

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    1. Here Here.

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      1. A Nonny Mouse! 12th Mar 2019 — 1:39 pm

        Where?

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    2. I don’t think there was any such legal obligation back in 1975.

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      1. There was, in the UK since 1967: an obligation to report to police info about a crime.
        Of course, there was always a moral obligation, which should have meant more to a man like Brady.

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  25. Fly on the wall, the last word I would use to describe this individual is “brave”. He is a coward and an absconded from justice.

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  26. Nothing brace about this man. A so called Christian leader who knows that there have been allegations against him and is wanted for questioning. Yet he flys off for three years refusing to come back to answer those allegations. Yeah really really brave that. Do me a favour

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  27. Fly on Th Wall 12th Mar 2019 — 8:21 am

    10 44 1053. At least he did come back Peter also ran away and came back. I’m not making a judgment hi. As Pat says the Law,s yr person now. Leave them to it. Tis not a spectator sport so.

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    1. Poor Magna… Clearly on the bottle again, behave and mind yourself in these pending storms🍾😆🍾

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