CHURCH HYPOCRITICAL – SILENT ON ABUSE BUT SENSITIVE TO CRITICISM AND RIDICULE

BLOGGING FROM ROME – MARCH 20 – 27TH

Posted Mar 20, 11:05 AM SiLive.comCHURCH HYPOCRITICAL –
By Anthony J. Raiola and Michelle Simpson Tuegel

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For decades, the Catholic Church has turned a blind eye to the child predators in its ranks and refused to be held accountable for the thousands of lives it ruined.
Yet it took less than two days for the Brooklyn Diocese to respond to a joke on Saturday Night Live that compared the Catholic Church to R. Kelly.
There is no greater evidence that the Church refuses to take its child abuse problem seriously. It is clear the priorities lie in feigning outrage, not actually changing the culture of secrecy and abuse that has become the tenet of the modern Catholic Church.
Take, for example, the recent Vatican conference on sexual abuse of minors that was portrayed by many as a positive step forward by the Catholic Church. Unfortunately, the conference failed to establish any real solutions or tangible outcomes for survivors of clergy abuse. The Church has knowingly allowed abuse against minors to go on for decades, working hard to keep the abuse quiet and rotating sexual predators around different communities. Despite a contrite tone, Pope Francis proposed no concrete solutions to deal with the scourge of clergy abuse and failed to promise a zero-tolerance approach from the Church.
Survivors of clergy abuse in New York and beyond deserve more. It is time for Catholic bishops in New York state to make real reforms rather than empty promises, and do what the participants of the Vatican conference refused to do — focus on the survivors and enact concrete changes so that this abuse never happens again.
For example, New York bishops must convene a statewide summit and actually listen to the voices of survivors, not the clergy and institution that allowed this corruption to happen. By failing to prioritize the needs of survivors, the Church is once again choosing its leadership over the people it has failed to protect for decades.
The Church must also implement a zero-tolerance policy towards abusive clergy members and the priests and bishops who protect them, resulting in automatic dismissal from the clerical state. In addition, candidates for the priesthood should have to undergo more rigorous screening to help prevent such abuse from occurring in the first place.
Finally, the Vatican must reveal everything it knows about the destruction of files that could have prevented some abuse from occurring. The Church has proven that it cannot be trusted to do the right thing, so it must be forced to be entirely transparent and provide answers to questions survivors have struggled with for decades: What did the Church know about clergy abuse and when? And why didn’t it do more to stop it?
Part of ending the culture of covering up is holding abusive priests, the individuals who protected them, and the Church accountable in court. Despite resistance from the likes of Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Child Victims Act was recently signed into law, creating more opportunity for survivors to seek justice and get answers. The new law gives survivors of sexual abuse more time to seek criminal or civil charges against their abusers and creates a one-year window for survivors to file lawsuits that were previously barred by the statute of limitations. It helps ensure that from now on, survivors of sexual abuse in New York will not be silenced.

PAT SAYS

Is it not amazing that the US bishops have covered up abuse for 50 + years but react in 24 hours to their church being mocked and ridiculed?

They are so protective of their “reputation” but in reality their reputation is already zilch!

They have more concern for their so called “good name” than the wrecked lives and peace of mind of many thousands of innocent children.

These are rats that need the fire of exposure and publicity focused upon them.

The centuries of denial and corruption are coming home to roost.

There is a God in Heaven!

107 thoughts on “CHURCH HYPOCRITICAL – SILENT ON ABUSE BUT SENSITIVE TO CRITICISM AND RIDICULE

  1. PB whats the score with you and Jamie McConnell of late?
    See he’s back on the scene with Facebook, some craic he is!
    Does my heart good, seem’s to be approaching from a slight change, more mellowed.
    Did some WEE birdie have a quiet word in his tiny ear?
    Not so sure if he has the intellectual intelligence to listen to one!

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    1. Irrelevant to today’s blog subject matter @ 12:33. Not too sure about your intellectual intelligence.

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      1. My thoughts too – 4.57.

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      2. Ta ta Jamie. Remember a wee birdie has the right to freedom of speech!

        Do you not sleep Lukie Boy?😉😂😉

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      3. 8.49 Who really gives a f..k what you think.

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      4. It’s amazing what a court appearance can do to cool tempers.

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  2. What was the point of that big summit in the Vatican? It achieved nothing and nothing changed.
    As for zero tolerance, Cardinal Barbarin of Lyon said Francis would not accept his resignation following his conviction for covering up clerical sexual abuse, so he has decided to step aside temporarily for the good of the archdiocese.

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    1. Last Autumn the USCCB was all set to agree new sanctions, including on bishops, until its president, Cardinal DiNardo was told directly by the Pope to stop. Not much collegiality there. The fiction was that there were would be universal norms agreed at the talking shop.
      Of course no such norms were agreed so it’s business as usual and the US Church still has no sanctions on bishops.
      Why is the Pope so tin-eared on this. It’s rather like when during his failed Irish trip he patted Marie Collins on the head and mansplained to her that when she was next in Rome he would tell her why her proposed body to hold bishops to account was unworkable. It’s a rotten pontificate.

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      1. @ 9.18
        “It’s a rotten pontificate” – got it in one.
        Francis is an authoritarian mason who only uses ‘collegiality’ when it suits him.
        He’s a megalomaniac.

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      2. I think some diocese have instigated their own protocols for bishops – I think I read something about O’Malley in Boston setting up something independent so that the Boston bishops could be overseen, accountable etc. So, maybe many dioceses are beginning to do it independently of the USCCB ?

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      3. 10:52 it’s all very well individual bishops such as O’Malley introducing new sanctions and procedures but that’s not the same as the USCCB doing it as a body.
        That leaves at the discretion of each bishop and I can’t imagine much urgency on the part of Wuerl, Tobin and Cubich to do anything.
        And Francis has been effusive in praising the lately deceased Danneels so no change at the top, unfortunately.

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      4. 9:18 and 9:37 U.S. commentators both, I take it. The country where religion is miles wide and an inch deep. Better not to export that brand of faith and belief.
        May the Lord continue to bless his chosen minister Francis!

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  3. 9.32: I wrote something similar yesterday, but less eloquently, as I was in a rage! In my late 70’s I share every sentiment you express. Sadly, this crisis is of our own making and therefore we have to live with the consequences. I hope that you, like me, have experienced some worthwhile fulfilment in your years of ministry. Our disillusion and hurt is not comparable to the awful, life changing hurt experienced by victims/survivors – a hurt lived every moment. I just wish and pray that our chosen, “shepherds/leaders” would be more caringly and compassionately pro-active in responding to all who hurt deeply. There is, as you express, one law for the higher echelons and another for those at the coal face of everyday ministry. We are, as a group within the Church, disposable, suspect, mostly uncared for by our Bishops, discredited because of the abuse by fellow clerics and we face our days under a cloud. When convenient we are dismissed as a nuisance when we make valid criticisms. And dare we face disfavour for whatever reason, we are literally on the scrap heap. For now I just remain focused on the “essence” of the gospel of Christ. But I agree with you that our experiences pale into insignificance compared to the hurt, pain and destruction caused to many by church personnel and their need for healing. That’s more necessary than my concerns. Let us live our days in trust and hope in God’s love and mercy.

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    1. @ 9.24
      There are people praying and sacrificing for good priests. Our Lady asked us to do this. The rot goes all the way to the top, but know that in the end her Immaculate Heart will triumph. Just persevere being a ‘good and faithful servant’ to Our Lord. The present personnel will pass, they just THINK that they are invincible!

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    2. If you were in Westminster, there is nothing as cold and damaging as the frigid fury of + Elsie. You get on his wrong side and you are ruined. All you get is a cold stare and a peremptory dismissal. Unless you are one of his favourites. Mind you, those change often as they become less useful to him and he moves on to people who can do things for him. Perhaps one day he will feel what it is like to be discounted. Maybe he’s beginning to feel it already as his grip on power and influence begins to slip away. He just needs to hope that his successor is a generous and kind man and takes care of him in his dotage.

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      1. Pat, have you bumped into Elsie yet in Rome?

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      2. Who cares about Elsie? Keep your english muck to yourself.

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      3. Well that is likely to be Nursie from dear old Brum, so Elsie should be taken care of.

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    3. @ 4.50
      Hahahaha, you mean Daneel’s chosen minister!
      You are a fool.

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      1. Yes, if you have Danneels, CMOC and McCarrick as the election managers it’s no surprise we got the deeply compromised Bergoglio, who refuses to visit Argentina as there are too many skeletons in that particular cupboard.

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  4. Pat Mullaney is jealous of you being at the Vatican so she is. She said you shouldn’t be there as you are not a real bishop so she did

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    1. I think it is time you are brought to court for your written words old man.

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    2. Obsessive northerner alert. Tediously boring!

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  5. The much vaunted zero tolerance policy seems to be applied highly selectively. It probably depends on where you are in the pond life. So, someone like me, low down on the food scale, would be out on my ear at the slightest accusation and required to leave my house, my home, my ministry and everything I hold dear. I would effectively be judged guilty at accusation. But, at the same time, under this zero tolerance policy, the likes of the Cardinals Barbarin and Pell are given wiggle room so that they can retain his position in the case of Barbarin, and his red hat and title in the case of Pell. How do you think that is going to inspire confidence in a zero tolerance policy, and reassure people that the Church, at all levels, is taking this matter seriously ? It looks rather like the Church leaders looking after their mates, and to hell with the rest of us.

    I increasingly do not trust my Bishop or VG or Diocese or the Church. They will deal with me as an object to be pushed around, unilaterally moved, dispensable, removable, and when I retire they will do all they can to ensure that I am the least possible burden on them once I have passed my use by date. And all that in spite of what will be almost 50 years of ministry. If you ask the question about fairness and justice, they still revert back to the legal fiction that I am not employed by them, but am self-employed, an office holder, employed by God…..anything in order to avoid any responsibility. The Church’s social justice teachings apply to everybody else, it seems, except priests ! Bit like the zero tolerance policy applies to everybody else, but Cardinals !

    Mind you, I do not expect any pity or sympathy. So many of my brother clergy have brought great shame on us as a group by their lifestyles and their behaviour, and we all have to bear the burden of that shame. It is inevitable that we are judged as a class. But, let me tell you, it is very uncomfortable and it hurts ! It pales in to comparison, however, to the harm and hurt that has been done to the innocents by abusive priests. I rightly hang my head in shame at what has gone on and what the Church continues to do in these matters.

    It looks nice and balmy there in Rome, + Pat ? Short sleeve shirt weather. Enjoy !

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    1. I’d say Pell’s red hat is doing him much good as he slops out this morning.

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    2. MournemanMichael 22nd Mar 2019 — 9:49 am

      Anon@9:32: In contrast to Magna’s comment at 10:10, I do have considerable sympathy for RC clerics who, with best intentions (albeit admittedly, like myself, very naive at the point of entering a seminary), embarked on what they then perceived as a pastoral worthwhile mission. Like you I recognise that a considerable number have utterly failed and the increasingly revealed evidence certainly begs questions as to the proportion of them who have been what Pat’s recent blog refers to as lazy dossers let alone abusers.
      But even though as a humanist I disagree with the validity of religious belief, I continue to believe that there is a proportion of RC clerics who have retained authentic belief and practice of their original altruistic motivation. On the scales of worth, those altruistic clerics undoubtedly weigh heavily on the side of ‘doing good.’ It is a moot point to debate the ‘worth’ or otherwise of the whole RC church enterprise. We must be careful not to to tar all with the same brush.
      MMM

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      1. A humanist who comments interminably on a religious blog? Lol.

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    3. 10:23
      Are you denying that these men (Christ-betrayers) take a vow to obey a bishop rather than Jesus?😕

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      1. Sorry Magna, I am with MMM on this. I have known some good priests.

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      2. “Carta” would you ever ***k away off!!! F**king tosser!

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      3. Magna, the priests at 9.24 and 9.34 are obviously good men. Your ignorant response is simply that, ignorant and hate filled. But what’s new from You, you monstrous creep. Thank God we have many men like them who, despite their human failings, are faithful to Christ first and foremost. These men will have made huge cintrubutionscto their parish communities in a way that you, however intelligent you seem, ciuld never achieve. If words are a give away to the people we are, you, Magna, are an arrogant, loathsome and unlikable person. Bullies rarely recognise their vile abuse but you are one of the worst offenders on this blog. Specimens like you should be in a straitjacket or more appropriately, ignored or put into a snake pit. These two good priests are inspirational and God bless them. I’m certain they would happily emulate Christ when he adjoins us to – ” Bless those who curse you…” They possess virtues you couldn’t dream of. God be with them.

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      4. Internet troll alert! Call in the billygoats gruff.

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    4. Oh, stop whining, you bloody Christ-betrayer!

      You KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY took a vow to obey this shower, through a bishop, at your ordination. And now you want to cry on the blog that you are being treated unjustly by them.

      TOUGH!

      I have no sympathy with you. None at all.😡

      😆

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      1. Go and p*ss off Magna you are just a snake and low life with no b*lls or courage – just like all bullies. Go and say those things to people’s faces and see how far you get you gutless scumbag. Go and try it.

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      2. That’s the kind of neanderthal nihilistic response we have come to expect from MC. Does anybody take any notice of him anymore ?! He is so predictable, it’s really not worth his taking the time to type his responses, because we know already what unthinking doltish shiite he’s going to produce.

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      3. 10.10: Up a little earlier after your drunken sprawl last night!! Magna, you diminish yourself with every word you express. You are a vile piece of trailer muck. You should have a brain transplant. You are vomit writ large. How the experiences of rejection from your childhood and seminary have destroyed you!!GET HELP. I’d do it for free…..

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      4. Magna at 10.10. Wodd for you: You are spirituly, emotionally and psychologically dead. You are insignificant with your relentless, repulsive narrative. What a waste of humanity. You are a big mistake…..

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    5. All of these compliments!😲

      It could turn a good man’s head.😮

      But I won’t let it!😡

      😆

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      1. Magna, I always value your posts. Even when I don’t agree with them on occasion, they help challenge my own thinking. And for that I’m grateful.

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      2. 4.18: Magna, it just might be a good idea to let these comments turn your head; then it might free itself from your backside. You filthy piece!

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      3. Internet troll alert!

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    6. 5:11

      I appreciate the compliment.

      Thank you.☺

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  6. The Troll thrives on reaction.

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    1. 😈

      😆

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  7. What fool is paying for you to go to Rome? Are you telling sad stories, lies and more lies there? Are they aware that you are a convicted fraudster? I see a fraud in a picture!

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    1. I am giving evidence in an investigation into a senior Irish churchman along with a former Maynooth seminarian. The Vatican authorities are being quite gracious with me. They provide lunch everyday. The church is paying the cost of my trip.

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      1. Oooohhh, I bet that is putting the wind up a load of Irish clergy and bishops ?! Good !

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      2. I don’t think the Church is paying for it – it’s the laity like my wife and I who is paying for it. I bet there is lots of food and wine consumed.

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      3. Is it +JM?

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      4. You should be locked up.

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      5. Seriously you being invited to Rome and paid by coffers like me.
        It’s the Christian thing to do, reach out to all in society, I genuinely hope you cone back a changed man Pat as a loving and caring Cleric.

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      6. Well done, Pat. I’m glad the seminarian has somebody like yourself giving evidence.

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      7. Wow! Well done Pat. They have probably been reading the blog for years. See what you get when you allow freedom of speech. Things get sorted. Well done.

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      8. I’ve a generally dim view of Authority and a tendency to cynicism with regard to Church politics (it’s a fine line between paranoia and intelligent observation)
        Having said all that though surely the fact that the RC instituation is flying Pat over and listening to his evidence is a ray of light in an otherwise bleak landscape?
        The RC Church of even 10 years ago wouldn’t have taken such a step? Maybe things are going to change? Instead of the usual round of whitewash and reshuffle?
        Are we seeing the beginning of putting the house in Order?

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      9. 11.05: It’s beyond belief that your trio should be paid for by a Church you despise. It’s beyond belief that you, convicted of the serious crimes of sham marriages in a court shiukd be relied upon for evidence. It is beyond belief that despite your cynical, opportunistic agenda frequently denigrating and name calling of clerics and your vindictive vengeance, that you should be believed….a strange world, an even stranger Church!! God has a sense of irony and humour……

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      10. Pat, does their graciousness extend to your being referred to by episcopal references? I should have thought it did, considering that it has judged your consecration as bishop ‘irregular, but valid’

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      11. Yes. They call me what they call curia bishops Monsignore

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    2. Pat’s obviously rattled your once comfortable cage 10:11. Laity aren’t fooled any more by the lies slander.

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  8. You look so smug Buckley with your smug face. Wining and dining in the restorante of Rome. I bet you are walking around as if you own the place. Make sure the Vatican gendarmerie don’t get hold of you and keep you a prisoner within the Vatican.

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    1. Sounds to me that you are just jealous, and angry ? Why should + Pat not be in Rome? He’s as much a bishop as the rest of them there. Only, he’s more honest and transparent. We know his failings and his sins. He doesn’t hide them. Not like that lot in the Vatican who are up to all sorts of things. So, + Pat is probably one of the bishops in Rome at present who has integrity and whom we can trust.

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      1. Hear, hear!😆

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  9. Pat, interesting letter in today’s Irish times containing a good example of diocesan speak.

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  10. MournemanMichael 22nd Mar 2019 — 11:37 am

    Good points Anon@11:12.
    Indeed it’s good to see +Pat being called as a witness. I suspect he is one of the very few clerics who can speak ‘truth to power’, as he is not ‘in the pocket’ of hierarchical masters.
    MMM

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    1. MMM at 11.37, if you came down from the mountain like Katie Daly, you’d find many similarly good, honest and very conscientious clergy. I have never had any problems or criticisms of humanists, even when I disagree with much of their philosophy. I believe in listening carefully to others, respect and tolerance and a diversity of views. Each entity or organisation is not without faults and imperfections; every world view needs questioning and analysis, but the absolutist intolerance towards – and condemnation of all clergy is offensive and unjust. Otherwise your comments are good and honest. Mags Cartwheel could learn much from you. Could you mentor this crazy stray or find a cave for him in the Mourne Mts…??

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      1. 2:22

        Ugh!👹

        What was that you said?

        Every entity or organisation is not without faults or imperfections? Was that it?

        I’m asking because I can’t believe that even someone as obviously, and impressively, dim as you would have even considered typing such a statement with the institutional Roman Catholic Church in mind. Why, it’s like accusing Satan of being a huggable rascal!😆

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  11. They should throw you into the Tiber like they did the Borgia Pope, pull you up again after a good spell down there and then drag you through the streets of Rome.

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    1. Very Christian thought.

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      1. They don’t like it up ’em, + Pat. You’ve evidently got them rattled. Well done !

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      2. Isn’t it a little ironic, Pat, that the church will facilitate you financially to give evidence at the same time as encouraging the faithful to believe that you are excommunicated – whatever that means.

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      3. Bishop Patrick, have you tried out Hostaria Costanza in the Piazza del Paradiso near S. Andrea Della Valle? Delightful atmosphere and good food. When I’m in Rome I always visit dear old Cardinale Tommasi whose liturgical thoughts I admire and who lies in S. Andrea’s, and then I repair to Costanza’s.

        Enjoy your ad limina apostolorum visitation, as it were!

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    2. 11:48: Esp for you 🖕

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  12. Pat can you confirm that you are ok? Pat Mullaney has confirmed Brendan and trolley dolly are out in rome and want to meet you.

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  13. Sounds to me as though the long arm of the law is finally catching up with + JM ? Hopefully, if there is stuff that he has done that is wrong, that it is not all brushed under the carpet. Surely not, in this day and age ? I await the outcome. Even as a youngster in Rome all those years ago, I always felt that JM was slime ball as he toured the various colleges giving sotto voce confidential talks about JPI and JP2. Most indiscreet.

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    1. Who is JM?

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  14. Bishop Tom Deenihan + 22nd Mar 2019 — 12:58 pm

    Lots of ball hoppers and bronsons having a go at you today Pat? Give em down the banks boy! 👍 Fecking gowls!

    I rightly fooled all these langers in Meath when in Lourdes Pat! They all think I’m a pious fool! 🤣🤣🤣 It was bad enough having to lead the Rosary, but on top of all that I couldn’t get a decent pint of Murphy’s anywhere! 😂😂😂

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    1. You’ll have to pack a few cans in your luggage for the Holy Land so!

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      1. A priest has been stabbed during Mass in Canada. That’s where anti-clerical talk leads.

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  15. Good sign all the negative and slanderous comments from dark side clerics Pat. Give them both barrels.

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  16. Magna Carta's Mum 22nd Mar 2019 — 3:02 pm

    Goodness, Magna darling, the square looks much more empty than it did when we went to see Pius XII!

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    1. If 300 turn to see Frank at the General Audience the Vatican issues a new commemorative stamp.

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      1. Disgruntled comments like yours, 3.45, must come fast and furious to you and your ilk, when you remember that Francis is one of the most popular popes in history.

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    2. Mommie Dearest, that was the occasion of our visit to his tomb, under the basilica, and just after he was declared a ‘Servant of God’ in 1990. (Servant of God in 1990? Crumbs, dearest! That was confusingly phrased. He wasn’t a Servant of God in 1990, of course. After all, he…Never mind.)

      Don’t you recall the visit? You were visibly distraught…wailing at times…at the prospect of such a privilege. I had to guide you through the throngs (pardon my stumbling there, dearest, but I almost said an indelicate word instead) of the faithful in the square that day, such were your hues and cries.

      I swear the holy women of Jerusalem at the via dolorosa wept fewer litres of saline than you. No wonder you didn’t notice the crowds!

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      1. Magna Carta's Mum 22nd Mar 2019 — 7:21 pm

        Honestly, the way you forget, darling. I remember you taking one of your girlfriends to Italy in 1990. I don’t know why she was crying, but whatever happened, she never spoke to you again. I have now checked in my album and my memory actually was at fault (but not as much as yours, darling). I find the Pope was John XXIII, the year was 1960, and you, Magna darling, were eight years old.

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      2. 7.21: You don’t do a hood job at imitating the real crackpot Carta…….😥😎😍😎😆.. or is Carta Blue gone all civil….😂😂😂😂😂😁😁😁

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      3. Magna’s Mummy 22nd Mar 2019 — 10:10 pm

        All this reminiscing, Magna darling, has Mommie chortling here about when she came back to the motel room unexpectedly and caught her little Magna, masturbating furiously, over that calendar of the rather dishy young priests Mommie had bought herself as a little souvenir of her pellegrinaggio.

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  17. Pat did you get a salute from the Swiss Guards when they saw your pectoral cross? Joe Duffy used to reminisce about that. There wasn’t there a rumour that your photo was displayed at the gates of Vatican City with an instruction to bar entry?

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    1. I did and one of them actually kissed the ring.

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      1. 3.58: Is that all he kissed Pat??? You are partial to Swiss Chocolate I heard!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🚻🚻….

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      2. I am indeed – especially an Easter egg

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      3. You stop them by telling them you keep it in your back pocket.

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      4. 3.58: It’s an anomaly when true Bishops have people or kiss their ring (and what an anomaly it is) but when Patsy has someone kiss his ring, the whole world is to rejoice….A lot of unrecognised hypocrisies in Paty’s life…Imagine the “humility” it takes to actually let another person kiss your episcopal ring!!!!He’s as worldly and ostentatious as the Vatican brigade.

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      5. How do you stop them without hurting them?

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    2. Should have got a two fingered salute.

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  18. Pat Georgous has joined the army ranger wing.

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    1. Lollipop Josie 22nd Mar 2019 — 8:35 pm

      4.26: Pat has found his Gorgeous – the Swiss guard who kissed his ring…..and we know the stories of the Swiss Guards, though I believe they like handsome, younger ones.

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  19. Buckley keep out of Rome, not welcome

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    1. That’s strange. Two Slovakian seminarians kissed my ring in Gamarelli

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      1. 5.04: Pat, what did you buy in Gamarelli apart from your mantilla and nightgown? Will you pick up a size 40 bra for me? I’ll call to Larne when you get back? Remember those parties you and I used to go to………….those glory days of youth….Everyone loved the Gamarelli labels.

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      2. I bought nothing in Gamarelli. I just went to say hello to Stefano Gamarelli who has been a good friend.

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    2. That’s not true. Two Slovakian seminarians kissed my ring in Gamarelli today. And a Viatnameese professor of theology embraced me on the Borgo Pio yesterday. My abiding impression is of Rome embracing me.

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      1. Pat, you could yet be a celebrity bishop if you keep close to the Swiss Guards. I’m sure they’re Gorgeous!! And that you’d like them in your Easter egg!!!Yummy..

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      2. Is your boyfriend with you?

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  20. 6.44: You mean “husband” surely or should it be “twink” or “sugar baby”?? I’m all confused with labels…..

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  21. That’s a good picture of you Pat.

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  22. Bishop Pat! For heaven’s sake be careful!

    BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH!😲

    Oh! Sorry.😳

    Was looking at the wrong Friday on my calendar.

    Er, carry on. Nothing to see here.🙈

    😆

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  23. Hi Pat Keep your heada habova da Water ina da Roma hi. All these lovely comments saya hallot about the so-called club called the church but

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    1. If that’s your effort at an Italian impression desist. You can barely write in English at 10.36.

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