HOW MUCH DO PRIESTS, CARDINALS AND THE POPE MAKE?

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Christian Living
Church Life
by ChurchPOP Editor – April 2019

Have you ever thought about how much priests, cardinals and the Pope make?
On this week’s episode of The Catholic Talk Show, Ryan DellaCrosse, Ryan Scheel, and Fr. Rich Pagano discuss how much money the leaders of the Catholic Church make.
Scheel first explains, “You would imagine that the CEO of any company, especially one the size of the Church, would make a ton of money. How much does the CEO of Disney, or Apple, or Ford make? Hundreds of millions.”
“The Church is in charge of a billion people and has hundreds of thousands of ’employees,’ properties, and programs. But do you know how much the Pope makes?”
The real answers about our church leaders might surprise you!
Listen to this week’s episode below:

How much do priests make?
Scheel, DellaCrosse, and Fr. Pagano explain that most pastors and parochial vicars earn about the same salary throughout the United States.
Scheel says, “On average, parish priests make between $25,000-$35,000 per year, depending on the diocese…”
“That’s not a lot, but considering they have rectories and stuff, it’s enough to live a very modest lifestyle.”
How much do cardinals make?
“Cardinals have what they call “The Cardinal’s Plate,” Scheel explains. “Cardinals get 5,000 euros a month…That’s $68,000 per year [in American currency],” explains Scheel.”
He adds, “They all have to live in Rome, it’s more expensive, they have a lot more travel…Their vestments and their clerical clothes are more expensive…”
Fr. Pagano adds, “Yeah, but they get apartments. Those apartments are subsidized.”
Then Scheel responds, “But they are also living in a higher society, typically.”
DellaCrosse also responds, “And a lot of them give their money away.”
What does the Pope make?
Scheel first explains Pope Benedict’s retirement package. He says that the Church pays for Pope Benedict’s living expenses, and he receives an additional monthly stipend of 2500 euros.
He then asks, “What does Pope Francis make?
DellaCrosse guesses, “$100,000 a year?”
Scheel responds, “He makes three coins a year.”
“He doesn’t get them though. They don’t pay it to him,” Scheel adds. “The Pope has all of his expenses covered. They live in the Vatican, or Casa Santa Marta. They have all their traveling expenses paid for.”
“But a person is due the just wages of their work, so it would be unjust to not pay the pope,” Scheel says.
“He gets three coins: one bronze coin, one silver coin, and one gold coin per every year that he is pope. Then upon his death, all the coins will be placed into a bag and put into his coffin.
“So if you’re the pope for nine years, you get nine copper coins, nine silver, and nine gold.”
DellaCrosse asks, “So he makes nothing?”
Scheel answers, “He makes nothing. He makes those coins and he doesn’t get them until he dies.”

PAT SAYS

When I was ordained in 1976 and went to my first parish in Wales I had my keep and £5 per week.

When I got a car I also had petrol, tax, insurance and service allowances.

My first car was provided by a very kind sponsor – Mary Hoddinot RIP of Wales

I have several callers at my door each week looking for help. – who also gifted me a chalice that the family had bought for another priest 60 years previously.

In St Peter’s Cathedral from 1978 – 1983 I had my keep and £70 pocket money per month. I was also entitled to a no interest loan to buy a car.

When Cahal Daly sacked me in 1986 he told several people that I would fail financially in 6 weeks. That was 33 years ago.

I was determined that if I had to get a Monday to Friday job I would and be a priest in the evenings and weekends. Thankfully I never had to and got enough work as a priest to survive.

We priests cannot complain about our income and our living. Most of us live well – as middle class earners. I generally make them food or buy them food, electricity etc. As many of them have addictions I feel it better getting them the necessities of life.

AND

Putting bronze, silver and gold in the popes coffin – is that the Pope bringing his wealth with him to heaven a bit like the Pharoes?

105 thoughts on “HOW MUCH DO PRIESTS, CARDINALS AND THE POPE MAKE?

  1. Hi but the make enough to not have to worry like the rest of us but

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    1. Mornin fly hi.
      Begorra fly, money is to politicks as sex is to the clerg….a mighty headache.
      Who’s got the biggest wallet hi…The clerg and politicks are cross crossin fly and creatin a muddle.
      Brown envelops abound. There’s nathin and everythin to worry bout. Bye fly hi.

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  2. What the hell is the bloody purpose of this article and your stupid Pat Says comments? Are you on tablets? ….inane, vacuous and trite stuff. I have callers at my door frequently: I survive on my salary and have never complained even though I borrow from credit union when necessary. But your point being….???? I’m puzzled and here am I putting Holy Week liturgies and homilies together…..

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    1. I’m planning Holy Week liturgies and homilies too – with the extra Chrism Mass. Plus I have two weddings this week.

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      1. 9 52: So what……that’s not hard work….Pat, get a life.

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      2. That’s a grand or more for the back pocket!
        Maybe a little botox this time.

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    2. Fly on Th Wall 16th Apr 2019 — 9:28 pm

      11.45 Hi I wonder if Pat might be askin if the people’s get value for money. Sermons n services n canon law is all very good hi But are they experiencing the love of God. A pearl beyond price but

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      1. Good Nite fly hi.
        Begorra what’s for sale fly. Are sum sellin there soles to th divil or is a sell out on the go.
        Finders keepers losers weepers with priceless pearls. Won’t find till u go lookin hi. Bye fly.

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  3. Pat, I don’t want to know what you earn. You’re entitled to a wage. It’s none of my business. What’s the curiosity and intention of this silly piece of journalism? Are you hoping to steal the show from the CHRIST of Holy Thursday, Good Friday and Easter or are you designing an onslaught yet again on priests? One rely wonders about your motivations….

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    1. Pat is asking a legitimate question. How clergy are paid should be as transparent as how any group of people is paid. And they should be paid in accordance with their needs.

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      1. MournemanMichael 16th Apr 2019 — 5:15 pm

        12:36 Anon: “According to their needs” sounds kindly altruistic, but doesn’t apply in most occupations.
        “According to their worth/value/contribution etc” might seem more realistic.
        Now how would that work?
        Now there’s a thought.
        MMM

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      2. 12.36: Give me a list of salaries paid to you and other individuals in different companies. What’s your salary? Priests get a basic salary, depending on the Diocesan arrangements. The tax man knows our salary: that’s all that matters.

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  4. Notre Dame, just the latest. Loads of Catholic Churches attacked and desecrated across France this past few months alone. Paris’s second biggest Church ‘caught fire’ on 17th march also. Campaign of arson, destruction of statues, smearing of faeces, desecration of consecrated hosts etc especially over past 3-4 months.
    Certain demographic apparently ahootin’ and ahollerin’ with joy all over twitter.
    But I’m sure the ‘investigation’ will take a l-o-n-g time with allusions to the renovation.
    Apparently workers in the Cathedral say the fire was deliberately set.
    A fitting symbol of Christian Europe’s destruction. Sad times.

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    1. Let’s wait and see. Paranoia is an easy temptation. Are you an American btw?

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      1. It’s not paranoia.
        20 church’s in France were desecrated during the month of march.

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      2. @11.39
        NO.
        But what does that have to do with anything? Are you implying that it is only Americans who aren’t blinkered?Many of my comments here are attributed to an ‘american’.
        If you are relying on Sky, rte and BBC to filter what they deem is appropriate for your eyes and ears you will never see a balanced picture. They filter what is ‘news.’ Surely you have figured that out by now?
        The very recent upsurge in attacks on Catholic Churches in France is akin to the slaughter of Christians in Nigeria etc. – it doesn’t fit the globalist narrative.
        Aside from the cause, videos of smiling French Muslims have been blocked on social media so we can’t view them, but the names of French Muslims who chose smiley face and laugh emojis for the video of the inferno are still available and the numbers are legion.
        “Paranoia” – tell that to the Bataclan, Nice et al
        Jesus might have told us to turn the other cheek but He DIDN’T tell us to pretend we weren’t being struck!

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    2. Gemma O Doherty, award winning Irish journalist, will be reporting shortly from central Paris as France mourns the loss of Notre Dame.
      Can be viewed shortly live on her YouTube channel.

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      1. @3.45
        Gemma is the only man in Ireland.
        Free yourself from the Brits and then hand the country on a plate to sub-Saharan africans and mohammedans.
        Wasn’t it all worth it!!

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  5. Is money or ‘the love of money’ at the root of corruption in the clergy?
    Disenchantment with pay and conditions the problem?
    Bishops have been telling the public they’ll sort out the ‘abuse crisis’ for over thirty years.
    The clergy ARE UNABLE to police themselves.
    What’s a ‘credible allegation’ as opposed to an ‘incredible allegation’ and who decides which is which?
    Are Bishops using this issue as a bargaining chip for a hike in wages?
    How much does it cost to cover up the destruction of countless lives in today’s church by professional christians? What was Judas paid to betray Christ…thirty pieces of silver! What’s the modern monetary equivalent?
    The Church is literally burning in Europe.
    Jesus continues to weep.

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    1. 7.06: Kool Kat .. And Jesus continues to weep….did you ever think he might be weeping at you also? Don’t be so arrogant and self righteous.

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      1. We’ve wept together.

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  6. Whilst priests in Down and Connor get a relatively small income, they get extra “gifts” for performing funerals, christenings and weddings. Most of this is unreported to hmrc. So much for giving onto caesar what is caesars. On top of this they get free lodgings . No need to worry about paying a mortgage or rent. Then there are the “gifts” from parishioners, bottles of expensive drink etc. All in all a charmed lifestyle. No need to worry where the next penny is coming from like the rest of us. A man or woman should be paid their dues so why does the Catholic Church not pay their priests adequately instead of relying on parishioners. They say they are self employed which is nothing more than a tax dodge. Another sign of a financially corrupt organisation. They have charity status and bishop Noel certainly seems to believe that charity starts with himself

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    1. BS. When I was in Maynooth the D+C seminarians used to go on about the fact that they’d get the best salary in Ireland. Well I’m over paid, but can use the extra few bob to help out the needy in my parish. I have yet to hear of a hungry priest. But it is important that priests can live off their salary – it is the one dignity afforded to priests.

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  7. My stomach churns with disgust at your piece today, Pat. You have reached a new low. This Holy Week surely must inspire something of depth in your heart and yet you are shallow, supercilious and rather bizarre. I’m suspecting you want an all out blast against priests ince again. Who cares abiut our salary? Who cares what you earn? (Though I know it’s more than I earn….).

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    1. 8:20 am
      Recommendation:
      Your capacity for disgust will be tremendously deepened by reading
      various reports into child sexual abuse perpetuated by clergy and covered
      up by complicit members of the hierarchy.
      Begin with the recent report into Pennsylvania and work your way back to around 1985/86.
      Have a bucket at hand in case you throw up. Good luck.

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      1. 10.01: I already threw up on the Pensylvania Report. I do possess a sense of justice and outrage. Does that offend you? You do outrage well!!! probably “faux”….

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      2. You must feel very self-righteous. What have you done to protect a child?

        Take your own bucket and bring water to someone who is thirsty when you are also feeding the hungry.

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    2. Ahhhh, so you priests are not thinking about the Easter Offerings which will flow in on Easter Sunday, I suppose ? That money that goes to pay for your jaunts off to the sun (Tenerife, Sitges and all the other thongs and sarongs places you boyos like to strut your stuff), to wine and dine in swanky eating places, buy your new fancy car, book those hotel rooms for some fun action with some young guy you’ve got the hots for……??? Let’s hope that you can keep your mind on the Holy Week services and mysteries ! But, please spare us the faux outrage at having been outed. We parishioners are not stupid, you know. We know what you lot are up to most of the time. We see you out and about. The cruising lay-bys and woods, the gay bars and saunas, your gaydar swivel eyes when you are in the supermarket. Do you think we don’t notice ?!

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      1. 11:20am
        Read more reports. You didn’t throw up enough. Have a bigger bucket at hand.

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      2. 10 17: Dream on you pervert. Dream on. Take your brain from your arse, you moronic fool.

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      3. 10.17: What an imagination. Do you write for Playboy Magazine? You certainly can create a perverted, sexually vivid slide show. You pervert.

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      4. 12:01
        All clerical abuse covered up for the ‘good of the church’ and the ‘glory of God’ ?
        I’ll willing to empty the bucket.

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      5. 12.01: Stop being so supercilious, silly and infantile. Grow up.

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      6. 10.17: Jealousy, Jealousy, Jealousy, Jealousy…..Get over your stupid angst and jealousy. Get over it…..

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    3. I thought today’s article was very innocuous. Why no mention of the common fund Pat?

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      1. Do you mean the plate they allegedly dip their hands in?

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      2. What do you mean by “common fund”?

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      3. The common fund ? Isn’t that what religious (those remember, who take a vow of ‘poverty’) have ? My experience of religious communities is that they haven’t a clue how much it costs for them to live. They go on about only having a bit of pocket money and owning nothing, but ignore the fact of the thousands of pounds it takes to house them, feed them, give them whiskey, give them a car and pay for all the associated costs, send them on ‘courses’ and ‘retreats’, send them on holiday etc. etc. Generally, they seem to live very well, in many cases far better than the people that they are supposed to serve. I’d like a ‘common fund’ to look after me, please, but instead I have to rely on my own resources !

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      4. 12:01- Was clerical abuse covered up ‘ for the good of the church’ and the ‘glory of God’?

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    4. Fly on Th Wall 16th Apr 2019 — 9:32 pm

      Money makes da church go round Emotive comments but. Who’s the God then the Denar or the Son hi

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      1. @ 9:32
        Begorra fly, mammon or the Man above. Make yur choice and take yur chances hi fly.
        Butt tears of blood might flo fly when feeling low. It happined to the Man above so can happin to us below.
        Nite fly.

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  8. From the album- Arrival.
    Verse1
    I work all night,I work all day, to pay the bills I have to pay,. Ain’t it sad.
    And still there never seems to be, a single penny left for me. That’s too bad.
    In my dreams I have a plan. If I got me a wealthy man.
    I wouldn’t have to work at all, I’d fool around and have a ball.
    Money money money, must be funny, in a rich mans world.
    Money money money, always sunny, in the rich mans world.

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    1. 12:01- Was clerical abuse covered up for the’ ‘good of the church?
      If so what do you think the crucified Jesus might say of the humiliation, degradation and abuse carried out by some priests and covered by many bishops?

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  9. I wonder how much the Vatican will contribute, Bp Pat, to the restoration of Notre Dame? They’ve enough to rebuild it several times over.

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    1. You do know that Notre Dame is owned by the French state, and not the church?

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      1. Oh, well, that’s alright then.

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      2. A hefty contribution from the Catholic Church would not go amiss.

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      3. The collection box for Notre Dame at the European Parliament in Strasbourg. It’s still empty, Bp Pat.
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4RByAcWkAUdpaB.jpg

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    2. … still empty, Bp Pat.

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  10. If anyone is missing Hughie, here’s his eyewitness report on Notre-Dame: https://www.rte.ie/radio1/morning-ireland/podcasts/

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  11. I assume that priests are subject to income tax and national insurance too? If a priest earns more than the personal tax allowance here in the UK, he must be subject to 20% income tax on the rest, right? Or, being a priest means you are “tax exempt”?

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    1. Del boy Trotter 16th Apr 2019 — 10:04 am

      Why do only fools and horses work?

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    2. In the UK, clergy like myself, are regarded as self employed and must submit a yearly tax return, and, as you say, pay 20% on anything over the personal allowance, less business expenses.

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      1. This is true in the Republic too; but it is a lie that we are ‘self-employed’.

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  12. Why all the rush to rebuild the Paris burnt out building.
    It was just an ornament

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    1. Philistine !

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    2. I tend to agree with you. The fact that two business families have one and two hundred million euros to give to the rebuilding is obscene. How they withheld that money from the destitute. France has lost the faith. They have no reason for a catholic cathedral. Amazing how the bricks and mortar stand long after the faith is gone. HC refers to it the aftermath as a wake, but he doesn’t seem to realise what has died. The demise of the french cathedral has the same undertones as Dermot Martin throwing the divine mercy image, the holy image of protection, out of the cathedral in Dublin before the pope came. Ominous is the word.

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      1. Reactionary!

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      2. Reactionary!

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      3. Why was the image of the Divine Mercy removed from the cathedral in Dublin before the Pope came.?

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      4. News of the demise of Notre Dame de Paris has been greatly exaggerated, no doubt you will be glad to hear 12:32 et al! 😉🙄

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    3. Those huge donations should have been given to help the poor…just let the building stay as a ruin.
      Apparently it had bits falling off for years.
      Just like our councils giving money to 11 th night pollution bonfires.
      No moral compass anymore.

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      1. You are quoting Judas at the anointing of Jesus, @ 12:52.

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      2. @12.52
        “The poor will always be with us.”
        You sound like someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
        You want to take the money off the couple of billionaire donors and give it to who precisely? The newly arrived ‘french’ in the suburbs? To do what with, exactly? Buy new shiny trainers and a few spliffs? Meanwhile the corrupt dictators back in their home countries continue to fly over pizzas on planes for a snack (seriously), shop in Gucci and Chanel and live in obscene luxury?
        No. I prefer Notre Dame rebuilt with Selma Hayak’s husband’s money and the new French go home and sort their corruption out.

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    4. 11:01
      Barbarian! Vandal! The location of Notre Dame was one of prayer and praise while your ancestors were still transmigrating.

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      1. None of my ancestors were ever in Paris.
        Neither was I
        Just you clerical types swanning around Europe.
        Rome/ Vatican ( I was there) is a disgrace…pickpockets and dirty rubbish lying in heeps.

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    5. Not Hugh Connolly. 16th Apr 2019 — 3:17 pm

      It needs to be rebuilt. We need a place to lock the homeless out of.

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  13. 11.41: It’s a punch in the face you need, idiot. I wouldn’t give you any tips either. Get a real job….

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  14. Remember, Bp Pat, I imagine many of them have expenses associated with their extramural activities, including boyfriends, rentboys, and for “extras” in gay saunas, not to mention the cost of subscriptions to gay internet porn sites such as MonsterCockLand, BlacksOnDaddies, or DoggyDads, to name but a few. Being a priest nowadays is an expensive business, Bp Pat, it all adds up.

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    1. 11:17 ‘…Money makes the world go around; however, happiness greases the axle.
      Without this lubricant, life will seize’.
      Paul Van Der Merwe. Author of, ‘Lucky Go Happy.’

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  15. Pat. I’m a financial abuse victim of maynooth, I am a cocktail maker in Oak Alley and them sems never paid the tab and they were bad tippers.

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    1. 11:41am. Is that where lollipop, crackbat, lillie the pink, Josie, Kerry and co. hung out?

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  16. 1.12 it’s amazing how people going to their own ruin keep quoting scripture. Anything rather than seeing what’s in front of them. Notre Dame has become more a symbol of pagan France than a testimony of faith in the real Jesus.

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    1. @1.32
      Yes, all vestiges of other religions in the newly taken over countries have to be removed, so that in times to come the myth that they were always i*****c can be propagated. Then give the sites a new name. The Orthodox know all about it with the Aghia Sophia and the Jews with the Temple Mount.
      Keep on saying it shouldn’t be rebuilt. You’re doing a grand job! Mug!

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  17. MournemanMichael 16th Apr 2019 — 2:25 pm

    A bit off topic, but does relate to “the clergy.”
    Any thoughts on the Chrism Mass this week?
    Simply as an observer as I needed to be in Belfast, I went to it a couple of years ago. Two things forceably struck me.
    Firstly, how little interaction in the church forecourt afterwards between bishop and clergy, the latter seemingly anxious to get away with minimal contact with either colleague priests or laity.
    Secondly, the bishop, with noteably fixed “grimace” like smile seemed to exclusively relate in a passive manner to what some commentators in past referred to as the Holy Mary rosary rattling “blue rinse ” and silver haired brigade. He seemed very ill at ease.
    Maybe I’m being unfair and he’s just shy and or socially awkward?
    So how many of you clerics really look forward to supporting you bishop this week?
    MMM

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    1. Most are probably just going through the motions and champing at the bit to get back on their iPhones or tablets to check their messages for any hook-ups, which generally means to have gay sex, and if a very old probably means to simply spend time with somebody over an expensive lunch courtesy of the offering plate.

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      1. 4.17: How erudite of you! What a classy brain you have! Just wondering how far up your backside it is…Just sayin’ like….

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    2. 2.25: MMM – What a lovely, easy, carefree and mischievious life you have – that you make so vacuous and meaningless a comment! You, an atheist, should mind your own business. Simple as. You are smugly arrogant and nasty to involve yourself in eliciting ridicule at priests and bishops. Do you set the world on fire with your smashing personality? I doubt it. Would serve you better to go out and do something useful for your community. Oh, I forgot, atheism doesn’t inspire such self giving…..stop bandwagoning.

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      1. 5:15- Everyone ought to be concerned abuse human rights abuses. MMM has a right to comment.
        Your colleagues in prison and bishops who covered up for them have provided bundles of ammunition to use in ridiculing priests and bishops.

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  18. Pat you have me destroyed ya wee hur.

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  19. 11.46: You m6st be puking all the time. Bucket loads no doubt! Wonder do you like at all injustices….homeless people, poverty, prejudices, hatred of others, racism…people with special needs? Methinks your outrage is “faux”….😂😂😂😂🤗🤗😎😎 Keep your puke pot close!

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    1. 2:55pm
      I’m willing to empty your bucket as well.

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  20. I find the accusations on here about me and my brother Priests very distasteful. Not all of us access gay hook up sites, bed “twinks” or use the Easter offerings to the visit the dark rooms of Sitges. I’m from the Lancaster RC Diocese, UK and none of that behaviour goes on here you know!

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    1. Father, I know priests of Lancaster diocese who are gay and promiscuous.

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      1. Hi Bishop P? Who? Very few here are able for that type of thing! The young and able ones are all busy Latin traditionalists and would never go there, the rest of us are too old or are members of the Catholic Purity league. Name and shame!

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      2. The one I am thinking of is 60s. The trads are inclined to be actively gay. Goes with the lace 🙂

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  21. Right. Enough everyone. Most of the comments on here are utter filth. Can I remind you that this is Holy Week?

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    1. Paddy the Greek 16th Apr 2019 — 8:03 pm

      6:30 …Latin traditionalists would never go there…lol 😆 Minding someone? 😇👿

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  22. Fr M. Pat has no such information about your Diocese or he would have published it long ago! Safe to say has no idea.

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    1. I wrote to Bishop Campbell about this priest as he tried to seduce me in seminary. Campbell did nothing.

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      1. Pat. Bish Campbell wouldn’t have gotten your letter. His Chaplain Fr Billing would have binned it. Thankfully both have moved on. So, based on one Priest trying to slip the hand on you before he and you were ordained 40 years ago, means there are gay and promiscuous clergy in Lancaster Diocese?Could he have been a young man at the time who was lonely and vulnerable? Did you give out signals? Did he commit a crime?

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      2. I was contacted by a deacon in the safeguarding office.

        The priest himself was abused as a child by a Catholic teacher and a Lancaster priest in Rome.

        He has been active all his life.

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  23. 6:23
    Diddums.
    Right.
    Might I remind you of the UTTER FILTH perpetrated
    by priests and covered up by Bishops for years.

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    1. 6.43: MMM – What’s biting your brain today? Are you boozing too much? Your comments are nonsense. As an atheist you sure love the Church. It seems to be the only thing that your obsessed with. Get over it. Or practice metanoia!!!!charity….and mercy.

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      1. Oh dear: hit a raw nerve did he?
        Mebby if you’re speling nd gramer wuz beter he mite tek notis ‘v you!
        Ahem & Amen.

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  24. Any priest who makes more than the priests stipend, for example a Chaplin is obliged to pay the difference into the common fund. The idea is to ensure that everyone gets paid the same.

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    1. A Chaplin 6:51? Charlie Chaplin like? Is that what the clergy are reduced to? Charlie Chaplin stand ins? Weren’t a star at the spelling bee were you 6:51?

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  25. Pat. Your 6.54 post saddens me. I will pray for you tonight. God bless.

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  26. MMM. You are right about the lack of interaction between +Noel and his clergy. He has the personality of a gate post and it is so obvious he doesn’t want to be in Down and Connor. The moment he is able to leave he will speed out of his mansion’s gates never to look back. The whole renewing of priestly vows at the mass of chrism is a joke. Most of them will continue in their rotten ways. Those amongst them who are crawlers will invite the bishop or one of the emeritus bishops back to their parish for lunch. Can’t see many sausage suppers being served up. Oh no. Finest cut of meat and nothing else. It’s time these parasites got off our backs

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    1. 7.26: Begrudgery, hate language. You lot are very Christian. Just wonder sometimes what all these armchair criticsc(haters) do to change the world! Nothing, I suspect.

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  27. I know a few pooftas from Lancaster Diocese. Young and old. Nice people but tend to stick together and not rub it in anyone’s face.

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    1. Birds of a feather…

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  28. I’m sure the wannabe bishop Eugene O’Neill will be inviting one of the bishops for lunch. Won’t you Eugene. We all know how you like to mix with British ambassadors(and toast the queen) or bishops. Makes you look important 🤣

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