THE SEXUAL ABUSE CRISIS IS NOT A CRISIS.

The Sexual Abuse Crisis is Not a Crisis

Far from being merely a tragic moment in the church’s history, sexual abuse and related cover-ups are the fruits of a systemic disorder in the church: toxic clericalism.

The clerical leadership of the Catholic church has been aware of sexual violation of minors and vulnerable adults for centuries. This tragic reality is a critical problem, even though it has been buried in secrecy. The secrecy ended in the mid-80s, when the media exposed the church’s cover-up of a prolific priest-perpetrator in Louisiana. Often referred to as a “crisis,” it is, in truth, not a crisis. It is something much worse. It is a worldwide manifestation of a complex, systemic and self-destructive condition in the church. It is giving us a view of today’s version of the Dark Side of the institutional church.

The hierarchy has been trying to fix what it considers a temporary problem for more than three decades with no real or lasting success. Despite the countless statements, programs, apologies, explanations and excuses provided by popes and bishops, the toxicity is still very much a part of today’s church. Essential to moving towards any healing is the real acceptance by the clerical estate that the church is not limited to the clergy and those enmeshed in ecclesiastical governance, but is what Vatican II called “The People of God,” of which the hierarchy is but a very small part. Much of the bumbling and even disastrous response thus far has been justified by those responsible as being “for the good of the church.” “Church,” however, has not meant what is best for the entire community of believers. Instead, it means what is best for the image, the reputation, the power and the financial security of the clerical elite. The persistent failure to make it all go away is akin to trying to fix a hardware problem with a software solution.

The gravity of the situation is acknowledged by the civil governments of several countries. This has been driven home in the US by the attorneys general of several states who have launched investigations into the dioceses in their respective jurisdictions. The revelations from the investigations here and in other countries make it quite clear that the problem is not rooted in the dysfunctional clerics who have violated countless vulnerable people. These violations are the tragic symptom of far more serious systemic deficiencies that have made it impossible for the hierarchy to fix what it sees as the problem. Even worse, the powerful influence of the celibate, clerical culture has made it impossible for those in authority to fully comprehend the horrific nature of this deeply rooted threat to the People of God. In short, this is not a crisis with a beginning and an end. The sexual abuse and the hierarchy’s response are glaring symptoms of deep flaws grounded in the nature of the institutional church.

Abuse survivors and countless others the world over have insisted, quite bluntly, that the pope and the bishops stop talking and do something. To date, the hierarchy has responded to this disaster just as they have to so many other crises that have challenged the Church: by having meetings, issuing statements and then having more meetings and issuing more statements. If the problem doesn’t go away, blame someone or something else. A good example of this: In his first public letter on clergy abuse, (June 11, 1993) Pope John Paul II blamed the American culture and secular journalists for treating moral evil “as an occasion for sensationalism.” Such an approach is not only useless, it makes a very bad situation worse.

The hierarchy regularly claims that because of the initiatives it has taken, there is no place safer for children and minors than the Catholic church. The reference is, of course, to the many programs and policies mandated for Catholic institutions that are supposed to provide training about sexual abuse, as well as vetting protocols to identify sexual predators. These all look to the present and the future. While it is true that church leaders have taken these steps, it is also true that they have been forced to do everything they have done. The single most glaring deficiency is the lack of any consistent pastoral care for victims and their families. The many expressions of regret, apologies, promises of change and assurances of deep concern for the victims have no meaningful impact. They have no impact because they are not followed up by sincere attempts to reach out to victims to help identify and respond to the emotional devastation, the betrayal of trust and the profound spiritual damage inflicted not only by the sexual violation itself, but also by the history of rejection and re-victimization by the official church. Victims scoff at the sainthood of Pope John Paul II with good reason. He not only never responded to any of the victims’ pleas, he never even acknowledged them. But far worse was his protection of one of the church’s worst offenders, the late Fr. Marsial Maciel DeGollado, founder of the Legion of Christ. There are many valiant priests and nuns providing very effective pastoral support, yet the church’s ordained leadership simply does not know how to deal with the people whom it has been instrumental in harming. Some would say the hierarchy doesn’t know how, and others argue that even if it did, it either can’t or won’t act.

Popes Benedict and Francis have done far more than John Paul II, but their efforts have clearly been deficient. What more is needed? What should the hierarchy do? What can the People of God do?

First, it is essential to acknowledge the most glaring aspects of causality. The clerical culture, or clericalism, is the most commonly identified contributor. This is a world set apart from the rest of society. It is sustained by the toxic belief that the ordained are not only set apart from lay people but superior to them. This belief fosters the narcissism and sense of entitlement so common among clerics. It also creates a detachment from children, family and the role of intimacy in life to the extent that many clerics simply cannot comprehend the devastation parents experience when their child is sexually violated. It creates, sustains and protects the deference that far too many clerics believe is their due. By the same token, far too many lay people continue to believe that this deference is part of their Catholic belief system. This erroneous thinking is at the root of the failure to demand accountability from the offending clerics and their superiors who protect them. Over the past three decades, the belief in clerical privilege and the related deference has not only been significantly weakened, it has also resulted in hostility towards the clergy and bishops in particular and hostility towards the church itself. Yet despite the dramatic changes in attitude towards the clerical world, the plague of clericalism is still alive and as destructive as ever, especially in certain cultures where the clergy are still protected by an alarming degree of magical thinking.

The clerical culture is protected by mandatory celibacy and the myth that it is universally practiced. This, of course, is dependent on the church’s traditional teaching on human sexuality. This teaching is dysfunctional, confusing and contradictory, and it must be seriously re-examined. Close studies of countless cleric-perpetrators show many to be psychosexually dysfunctional to a serious degree. The connection between the sexual teaching and attitudes they assimilated, and their aberrant behavior must be examined. And such an examination cannot possibly be substituted by the ridiculous conclusion that the entire problem has been caused because there are homosexuals among the clergy.

The more pressing issue is recognizing the systemic roots of the church’s response. This leads to the second necessary demand. “Systemic” means that there are causal factors embedded in the very nature of the church. The most glaring is the teaching on the nature of the priesthood. Countless victims have said they believed priests were closer to God, and many even believed priests took God’s place. This false belief results in what many refer to as the “soul murder” of the victims of Catholic clerics.

This traditional thinking, supported by John Paul II’s emphasis on the unproven theory that a man is ontologically changed at the moment of ordination, must be banished from the contemporary theology of the priesthood. Fifty years ago, the bishops at Vatican II fought to eliminate the public image of the “Church Triumphant” and to re-image priests and bishops not as members of a gilded aristocracy, but instead as humble pastors. This seemed to be catching on, but only for a brief moment. The Polish pontiff, much to the delight of numerous upper-level clerics, began to systematically deconstruct the post-conciliar expressions of the priesthood that placed the church’s ministers with and not above the people. This trend, known as “restorationism” seeks to return to pre-Vatican practices, customs, theologies and liturgy, all of which are heavily infused with the elaborate theology of the exclusivity of Catholicism in general and the orthodox clergy and supportive laity in particular. This is toxic clericalism in action. With predator priests being outed and even convicted and jailed on an increasing basis, sustaining the hope for a return to the gilded age of glorious clericalism is hardly going to happen. Nevertheless, there remain a significant number of clerics and lay people who firmly believe that once homosexual clerics and sex abusers are banished, the church will return to the security and glory of its former days. For some, homosexual clerics have become a convenient scapegoat for those too threatened to confront more systemic issues affecting the hierarchy.

The bishops run the Catholic church. The pope and his Vatican colleagues can issue decrees, laws and policy changes, but they mean little unless the bishops take them seriously. When Pope Benedict visited the United States in 2008, he directly addressed the bishops several times and bluntly told them of their duties:

“Rightly, you attach priority to showing compassionate care to victims. It is your God-given responsibility as pastors to bind up the wounds caused by every breach of trust, to foster healing, to promote reconciliation and to reach out with loving concern to those seriously wronged.”

He made these remarks to the U.S. bishops on April 16, 2008. The day before, during his flight to the US, he also said quite bluntly, “We will absolutely exclude pedophiles from the sacred ministry. It is incompatible. Whoever is guilty of being a pedophile cannot be a priest.” It is safe to assume that in using the term “pedophile,” the pope was not speaking in the clinical sense, that is, referring to clerics who sexually violate pre-pubescent children, but rather to those who violate minors.

Pope Benedict gave the bishops a direct order to provide compassionate pastoral care to victims, an order mostly ignored to date. Yet pastoral care has been generously extended by the non-ordained members of the church and by those brave clerics who care more about Christ than career.

To Benedict’s words, add those of Pope Francis. Both pontiffs echo the theme of the bishops’ collective and individual obligation to reach out with loving concern to those harmed. These and similar papal admonitions, which certainly look like direct orders, have remained empty words, never seriously followed by the bishops because to do so poses too great a threat to the hierarchy’s top and really only priority: the security of the episcopal image and power and the neutralization of any threat to what is left of it. This speaks directly to the third essential demand, which concerns the office of bishops and the nature of the institutional church. Sexual abuse by clerics was a deep secret protected at all costs until the secular media set aside their deference for “the church” in favor of reporting truth. The bishops believed—and rightly so—that public knowledge of the extent of clergy abuse would cause scandal among the faithful, whom they wrongly believed could not handle it. The true scandal did not arise from the sexual violation of children and adults. The real scandal came from the bishops themselves through their efforts to hide the problem, then lie about it and finally try to shift the blame to any person, idea or practice they hoped it would stick to.

The third essential demand necessitates the deconstruction of the institutional church as a hierarchical system, given by God to Saint Peter and through which Catholics must pass to attain salvation. This construct depends on the bishops as the pillars of the church insofar as the church rests on them as successors of the original apostles. Protecting the church is the primary value, and by “church” is meant the bishops and their governmental system. Christ’s promise in Matthew 18:6 to those who cause one of his little ones to stumble has never been taken seriously. This step poses a massive threat to the entire hierarchy and to those whose lives and futures are intertwined with upward mobility on the hierarchical ladder. It obviously entails the dissolution of the counterproductive distinction between lay persons and clerics, a distinction that sustains the clerical subculture because it supports the deeply entrenched myth that clerics, simply because of ordination, are automatically superior to lay people. Even this attitude runs into a fundamental threat from a Gospel passage that easily proves its hypocrisy: Matthew 19: “The last shall be first and the first shall be last.”

The persistent teaching on the sacred nature of the institutional church and the clerical elite has provided abusive clerics easier access to potential victims. The belief in practice has meant that it is far worse to question or doubt a rapist who happened to be a cleric than it is to fight him off. Countless clerics took advantage of the false mythology surrounding priests by threatening their victims with God’s wrath should they reveal their “secret.” Some even assured victims this wrath would extend to their parents and loved ones. Far too many innocent victims were burdened with the irrational belief that the sexual assault was their fault, because “priests don’t sin.”

None of this would be possible if the common understanding of the priesthood, of priestly ministry and of the institutional church shook loose the triumphalistic and magical thinking and replaced it with a re-imaged priesthood, church leadership and the church itself in the context of Christ’s words about the community of believers.

These fundamental structural and attitudinal changes are essential, or the clergy abuse nightmare and others like it will keep recurring. People ask when it will be over because they hardly believe the bishops whose assurances have thus far fallen flat. It will be over when the system that created it loses its power. It will be over when the natural, unquestioned tendency of every cleric and lay Catholic, when informed of an incident of sexual abuse, thinks only of the impact on and welfare of the victim and his or her family.

These essential moves are part of a paradigmatic change, and that is dependent more on unfolding history than on verbalized demands. In the meantime, there exists a very real problem that has done unspeakable damage to countless innocent victims, their families, their friends and the people of God in general. The Holy See and the bishops have faced numerous suggestions and even demands for effective action. What they have done over the years has been only marginally effective, so it is time to consider more radical steps. In this regard, I wish to refer to the words of Marie Collins of Ireland. Collins is one of the wisest and most articulate voices for survivors. She served on the Papal Commission for the Protection of Children until she resigned because of the Vatican bureaucracy’s failure to avoid the temptation to interfere. She is also highly experienced and exceptionally courageous. Collins recently offered seven basic steps that need to be addressed at the upcoming papal convocation, if it hopes to have any lasting credibility.

The first condition impacts all others: Stop talking and do something! We have heard everything you have to say many times over. It changed nothing in the past and will change nothing now. Doing something is another matter:

1. Agree on a universal definition of child abuse with worldwide accountability.
2. Create a universal definition of zero tolerance and then apply it worldwide.
3. Change canon law so that it contains a realistic definition and narrative about sexual abuse of vulnerable adults.
4. Enact universal safeguarding standards to which every bishop will be held accountable.
5. Demand that every bishop commits in writing that he will abide by these standards.
6. Enact a universal set of action steps and practical plans to face abuse, which is criminal behavior, and every bishop must be held strictly accountable for enforcing this policy.
7. Effectively respond to clergy abuse, independent of involvement or interference by the Vatican bureaucracy.

The age-old presence of sexual violation by clerics is not a problem from outside the church. It is a terrible manifestation of serious deficiencies in aspects of the church that Catholics have come to believe are unchangeable because of their very nature. Yet Catholics, and especially clerics, must ask themselves if the terrible harm visited on God’s people because of these deficiencies can possibly justify behavior that Christ condemned. The community of believers is grounded in belief and faith in Jesus Christ, not in a man-made political construct the security of which depends on anti-Christian behavior.

PAT SAYS

We have here a thoughtful consideration of the basic problems confronting the RC church.

Tom Doyle is a wise and courageous priest who has stuck his put very publicly and has suffered for it.

Would that thete was a bit of Doyle in every priest and bishop.

A wise and Christ centred church wouldake him Pope woth one job to do – sort out the problems he has outlined above.

54 thoughts on “THE SEXUAL ABUSE CRISIS IS NOT A CRISIS.

  1. Bishop Pat, you and MMM won’t allow me to tell the truth like it is in this FILTHY institution, with its bone-idle, gentlemen-of-leisure Roman Catholic priest SPONGERS!!!!😢

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    1. 12.29: Magna, the response of the school yard bully. You can’t always be dominating with your tyranny of abuse, vulgarity and lies. You’ve had your say repeatedly on this blog ad nauseam. Go find a blog that tolerates your hatred, bias, ignorance and aggression. You have a right to make arguments, logically and in a fair and balanced way, but your vituperative and hate inciting language belongs to the trash bin. You weren’t one of those thugs who walked in uniform, beret and dark glasses through Dublin last Saturday? That outfits suits your violence and bullying but not this blog. You deserve contempt and should be banned for months from.this blog. You could learn much from MMM and others who, while being very critical of the church, are honest, sensible, balanced and fair.

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    2. “Magna Carta”, you wouldn’t know the “truth” if it bit you on the ass(es) – and there’s a helluva lot of ass(es) to bite!

      We all know only too well your jaundiced and baleful “take” on absolutely Everything.

      Furthermore, it’s high time Pat Buckley took some responsibility for the toxic ranting of the faceless troll who spews such vitriol continuously on his blog.

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      1. Poor auld Maggie Carta #martyrfortruth 😂😂🤣

        Yer an auld eejit

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    3. 12.29: My gifts and bonuses from parishioners during Easter: lots of Easter eggs and chocolates: wine: cards with money: good wishes, some dinners and desserts given at my door. I am so blessed by such generosity from good human beings, kind, decent, normal, caring. Contrast this with that trollope, Mags Cartwheel, the twisted, deranged, psychologically demented and poisonous snake. We shall never de disappointed with his s***e. Being good to others (as I am of course!!) reaps a harvest of goodness in return. Muck Savage Carta, you should do ‘kindness’….

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      1. See! The gullible faithful do give gifts to their ‘pastors’!
        And I bet you don’t let them know you come on here bullying people the way you do.

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      2. Hah, hah, hah Towl ye!

        Yer just a darned sponger.

        As fer them sheep, they really don’t know what yer like, do they? They know only the face you prefer to let them see. The public you?

        Away wiv the useless lot o’ y’!😅😅

        😆

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      3. Is that all? My parishioners bought me a new car and a time share in an apartment in Spain. I’m so blessed to have a rich parish and have taught my parishioners to appreciate how ontologically special the clergy are. They only genuflect in the street when I pass with the Blessed Sacrament though. It gives me such a thrill to think that I have changed the substance myself!

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  2. Archbishop of Dublin have a long interview to Irish Times. In it he mentions a seminarian living in a parish attending theology course. Who is he referring to?

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    1. 1.40: Precisely what he said: seminarians living in parishes and attending lectures from there. Not rocket science…..and makes sense.

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  3. Fly on Th Wall 23rd Apr 2019 — 8:53 am

    Begorra heavy stuff for a Monday morning that falls on a Tuesday hi. Sexual abuse is not the primary problem the church faces though it can not be tolerated no matter who does or supports it. The poor auld church has lost its purpose. Jesus says I will be with you always. But thauld bus can’t go nowhere without a qualified driver hi

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  4. Hello Pat, and how are you girls? What did you think of the easter ceremonies in maynooth?

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  5. Mornin fly hi.
    Begorra fly im feelin back to front knot knowin if
    I’m coming or goin. Tis all day Tuesday alright hi.
    Fly hi abusers in collars ain’t my kinda reps for the Man above.
    The Church has takin its eye off the ball now the reffs blowin the whistle.
    There’s awind of change or th bus will be over th edge.
    That won’t happin no matter whose at the wheel. Butt i don’t want a window seat for now.
    Bye fly hi.

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  6. This is a comprehensive and well expressed diagnosis of the grave problem of abuse.
    Key words: systemic, clericalism, causality, toxic, re-envisioning, hierarchy, deconstructing…..
    I particularly like his assessment that the abuse phenomenon in the Church is not a matter of outside influences bringing about such evil, but the result of inward, systemic, deficiencies in the Church and amongst it clergy, and in part because of the passive and receptive attitude of the laity, that are the cause of this evil.
    There is something wrong within the Church.
    That thinking runs counter to everything that I was brought up to believe, that the Church could not substantially err. I think differently now. The Church itself has been the origin and cause of such pain and hurt and wrong.
    + Nichols / Elsie and the rest of the episcopacy, as well as priests need to read this and realise that it is they who are the problem and the cause, not somebody or something else. The need to have the ability to’ re-envisage’ themselves and the Church, rather than constantly trying to keep the show on the road, or as the author calls it ‘restoration’ of the status quo.
    I am not confident that they are willing or capable of doing so. They are ‘company men’ bought up in this culture and it is probably beyond them to change and have a new vision.
    Just like global warming, it is getting to a point where it is going to be too late to arrest the slide in to existential deconstruction.
    Where are the people and leaders who can guide us out of this mess ?

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    1. @9.48
      GLOBAL WARMING – THE SLIDE INTO EXISTENTIAL DECONSTRUCTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Would you ever catch yourself on! Have you seen your comrades in arms, your fellow extinction rebels?
      Pot smoking upper middle class hippies, either too rich to have to work or too lazy to bother.
      You and francis need to wise up.
      Didn’t even bother reading the rest of your comment once I spotted that. Not of sound mind.

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  7. 9:48- Good comments on the Tom Doyle article. You’re right. The hierarchy need to read it!
    They need courage to face reality and take the necessary steps to bring about reform and renewal.
    However, in my view, the hierarchy are trapped by the past in more ways than one; in a double bind of sorts.
    Change will likely be incremental and probably too slow.
    Maybe a synod of the laity , clergy and hierarchy needs to be called.

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  8. This piece is worth reading several times. It is loaded with challenge and rational thought.

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    1. And will therefore, sadly, fall upon deaf ears.

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  9. Tom Doyle article is very good. Is he still a priest or not? I would expect that big brass in the corporation (Vatican) disown him for what he did for the abuse victims. Don’t see it as a church at all more like a business or political corporation,covering up their mistakes which was well known for centuries. Look up at movie documentary ‘ Mea Maxima Culpa’. The CC is rotten inside as they called themselves ” holy church’. Bishops and cardinals even pope stinks to high heavens re their past actions. There is no accountability there as they knew it. No sackings or firings which would happen in any corporation or mutual agreement etc. Once you stopped giving them respect or deference as I did when I realised bishops , priests cardinals aren’t going to change their behaviour. One thing I noticed about myself was hostility to bishops or church themselves (Vatican). The pope/ cardinals/big brass sees themselves as the church, not us -ordinary people. There is a huge disconnection between them and us – their arrogant and naricistic attitude as we know best etc just because they are viewed as God. Stopped looking them as God more like human beings with devious attitudes towards the laity and not honest (which is not a Christian value).
    1. Don’t give them any deference or respect just because they are ordained or special.
    2. Zero tolerance.
    3. Don’t give them any money as they (the Vatican) need it to run etc.
    4.question everything that they do or did.
    5. Strip their charity status. Their purpose is to avoid taxes.
    6. Churches handed over to laity as they will have a big say in selection of any priest. Monies collected by laity as they pay priests wages upkeep of their own church building as no monies will go to any bishops.
    7. Strip their political or state status which is a very tall order.
    8. Non obedience to the pope or church as we only obey Jesus full stop.
    9. Open a register who wants to leave the church as far as I know there is none.

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    1. 12.11: Very ambitious plan. Why can’t you just go and join Pat’s Oratory as it seems (or does it not) to have the vision you want. You, armchair warriors, probably wouldn’t give the steam of you p*** for free…You’re all talk and no action. Talk is easy and cheap. Go and do something useful instead of mouthing out your platitudes of hatred. If so unhappy, Pat’s door is open, although I’d imagine your big mouth ideas would be a threat to his authority!!!

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      1. 11:25am
        And what about the systemic institutional Rcc abuse, and arguably, Rcc hatred of children and other abuse survivors?

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    2. @12.11
      Dear Deaf User,
      Your grammatical use of English seems to have come on leaps and bounds since your postings last week.

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      1. What I like most about this blog is every voice is heard. I have been following Tom Doyle for about 10 years. His knowledge of the problem is matched to a fine disciplined mind. Some others can be a bit too emotional or rambling but they also have the right to speak. Pat has provided a very great service to the church by providing this blog.

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      2. 11:34am
        Occupational hazard, no doubt, to patronize!

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    3. 12: 11pm
      He’s still a priest.
      Doyle et al warned the hierarchy in America in 1985/86.
      Check out the document known as ‘The Manual’.
      In their ARROGANCE , the hierarchy refused to listen. Another occupational hazard of clerics and hierarchs.

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      1. @1.31
        What makes you think that I am working, which I am not?
        The point I was making unsurprisingly went over your obtuse head.

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    4. Congregationalism rides again. Just be honest and declare yourself Protestant. It would make you a more truthful person, following his or her conscience and make the Holy Church smaller and purer if you took your heavy baggage and left. Away with the moaning minnies.

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  10. Brendan Marshall is trying to rejoin Maynooth in September after his failed journalism career Pat. We are all scared of him after what he did to his “friends” Hicky, Dysky, Moriarty, Connolly, Byrne, Jones, Wilson, Derwin, McElroy and Sheehan. He must be stopped!

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    1. What exactly did he “do” to all of these strapping men? He’s some man for one man this Marshall boyo.

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    2. @ 2:42 pm
      Did I hit an exposed nerve? ‘Obtuse head’… more of it!
      A little respect wouldn’t go amiss , whether you’re working, semi- retired or retired.
      Anything to share or say on today’s article?

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      1. @3.02
        You definitely are thick.
        I could enlighten you, but I choose not to.
        Away off, you’re making a holy show o’ yourself.
        Go and try the coffee-break crossword instead – but not the cryptic one! Lol!!

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    3. Do you honestly believe the Archbishops and Bishops are stupid well I can inform you they have made mistakes before but be reassured they are not stupid.
      You have mentioned 10 guys and yourself that makes 11 so have you all wrote to the archbishops or bishops concerned if not the Papal Nuncio as I am sure they would be interested.
      Alphonsus Cullinan is the Roman Catholic Bishop of Waterford and Lismore and is responsible for National Vocations although he may think he is suitable to be the next Archbishop of Dublin

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      1. @3:35pm-
        You choose to be patronising and condescending.
        We’ve had one too many abusive clerical ‘ holy shows’. We don’t need or want another one.

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  11. 12.16: And you ought to be banned from this blog. You crap on here so often that you are like a broken record. Go out and get a life. Moron.

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    1. Hi Brendan

      The truth will come out soon

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      1. The truth of what you did to David Dysky. Dysky nearly died because of your actions.

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    2. @6.40
      I’m in a parallel universe. Lol!
      I’m certainly neither male nor a cleric.
      I don’t know what strange way your mind works, but it seems stuck in some groove. Maybe there’s some help you can get.
      Whose the “we” by the way?

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      1. 10:53pm
        That explains it! Out of touch with the real world.
        I don’t know what way your mind works either.
        The ‘we’ is the Holy Catholic Church, sister!

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  12. There is only one truth and that is the Word of God.

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  13. The clergy can’t argue with Fr. Tom Doyle.
    Doyle was an insider, working for the American papal nuncio in Washington, in the early 1980s.
    He was a rising star in the American Church. He has been an expert witness across the world, for the Church victims/survivors, ‘the People of God’; and not the .000074% of the clergy/ hierarchy, who seem to believe or consider themselves as the Church. I thought ministry was about service. That must be another clerical/ hierarchical myth.

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  14. The abuse escalated massively after Vat II when the sense of sin was lost, priests on cod psychology courses were told to let it all hang out, seminary discipline collapsed, most of the straight priests left, there was an extreme unwillingness to apply canon law sanctions, clergy became all matey and got access to gullible families and the worst punishments were a move to another parish or an agreeable sojourn in a treatment centre, such as the ones Fr Coyle and McCambley were sent to.

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    1. I imagine Amy D’Armagh has been racking her brains trying to figure out a way to quietly reassign Coyle and McCamley without alerting Bp Pat. She’s sneaky cow that way.

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      1. Archbishop Martin does not need to worry of moving clergy as it is usually done once a year.

        Just now the main thing is Dromore to amalgamate it with his dioceses as that will be the outcome just hope he does not drag it out.

        It is evident and even in the Irish times Archbishop D. Martin made it clear far too many dioceses.

        A bishop will never please everyone.

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    2. 7:13 pm
      The abuse existed before Vatican 2. Who knows to what extent.
      ‘Gullible families’….are you suggesting parents who trusted their priests are to some extent to blame?
      Men raped children and their bosses covered up for them. Those men are responsible for their actions.
      This ongoing perpetual ‘crisis’ has/had NOTHING to do with GOD or TRUTH and EVERYTHING to do with protecting the ‘ reputation of the Church’ i.e. the clergy/ hierarchy and to ‘avoid scandal.’
      How much evidence do people need?
      Did you ever think obligatory celibacy; hot housing predominantly young men in a homosocial environment, might be a major contributing factor precipiting arrested development, leading to psychosexual immaturity and acting out behaviours ; that some individuals may have chosen priesthood either consciously, subconsciously or unconsciously to deal with or avoid sexual problems or issues or mature relationships ; notions of spiritual superiority/power, being perceived as being different, may have attracted many individuals for a variety of reasons ; church teaching on sexuality, on priesthood, it’s hierarchical structure, all potentially major factors in this ongoing mess..etc.
      It’s a toxic recipe for systemic problems and dysfunctionality.

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    3. @7.13
      Nailed it!

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  15. Brendan Marshall no longer describes himself as a trainee journalist but just a journalist. That was quick.

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    1. Brendan Marshall is an ecxellent LGBT journalist and campaign advocate for a gender neutral workplace.

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      1. He is also an excellent fallen trees correspondent.

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  16. Fly On Th Wall 23rd Apr 2019 — 8:58 pm

    I’m not sure which is the solution and which is the problem but there’s a lot of wrappin paper on da floor when one unravels all the comments hi. Shh….t I forgot ta put the paper recycling bin out Gnite all

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    1. 8:58-
      Good nite to u fly hi.
      Begorra fly im not long after puttin out d’ bins.
      What’s worth recyclin hi and what’s for burnin.
      Actions speak louder dan words on paper and talkins cheap like the birdie song.
      More action and less paperin with talkin needed.
      Nite fly hi.

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  17. In his interview in Irish Times the Archbishop of Dublin said, “One seminarian, for various reasons, is now living in a parish and going to theology. We formed a small group to accompany him on that. It would be better if we had two or three.“ Who is he referring to?

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    1. Frank the german

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      1. Mullaney called Farnk a carrerist. Mullaney felt so inferior in Frank’s presence.

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    2. 9.45
      Wouldn’t you love to know!

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