NEW FILM EXPOSES CATHOLIC SEX ABUSE IN POLAND

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By JAN CIENSKI 5/13/19 POLITICO EIROPE

In Poland, the Roman Catholic church has more than a purely religious function | Sean Gallup/Getty Images

A documentary exposing child sex abuse in Poland’s Roman Catholic Church has turned religion into a key issue ahead of the European election.
The film, “Tell No One,” showing how abusive priests destroyed the lives of their victims and faced no consequences, has shocked the overwhelmingly Catholic country in which the church is a key political player; released on Saturday evening, it had been viewed more than 8.1 million times on YouTube as of Monday afternoon.

The unflinching look at abuse in the church adds Poland to the list of countries — from the U.S. to Canada, Ireland, Australia, the Netherlands, Germany, Chile and more — that have been forced to deal with clergy child sex abuse scandals.

In Poland, where the church has more than a purely religious function — seeing itself as a force that defended the nation during times of oppression, and which now has enormous influence over education, culture, the law and politics — the scandal has quickly taken on a political dimension.
The ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party has struck a tight alliance with the majority of Polish bishops. Many priests, especially in smaller towns and villages, often openly back the party.
“Who raises a hand against the church, wanting to destroy it, raises a hand against Poland,” Jarosław Kaczyński, the leader of PiS and Poland’s de facto ruler, said during an election rally earlier this month. He added: “There is no Poland without the church.”

Church and state

Kaczyński was speaking after a recent speech in Warsaw by Donald Tusk, the president of the European Council and a former Polish prime minister. Tusk had been introduced by Leszek Jażdżewski, a left-wing publicist, who used the occasion to denounce the power of the church in fiery language: “The Catholic Church in Poland, beset by pedophile scandals, engaged in a battle for money and moral influence, has lost the ability to act as the conscience of the nation.”
Jażdżewski was subjected to a torrent of abuse from the government and its media backers. Many opposition politicians scrambled to distance themselves from his words, afraid of angering the church and its followers, although Tusk did not.

ion Day to the blessing of a new fire engine — takes place without the participation of the clergy.
The problem for Law and Justice is that its alliance with the church now risks tarring it with the church’s internal problems.

“I’m not sure the film is a game changer, but it’s certainly not helping PiS,” said Migalski.

PAT SAYS:

Poland – another RC confessional state has overseen widespread sexual abuse of children and vulnerable people.

Lust like Ireland – things looked okay on the outside but there was great rottenness and corruption on the inside.

The old whited sepulchre that Jesus Himself spoke of.

The RC church has been a very dangerous and life destroying place for so many poor victims.

If there were proper justice in the world the Vatican and the RC institution would have been regarded as a “rogue state”.

But of course it is part of the international establishment and every establishment winks at other establishment.

But ordinary people are taking action – by walking away in droves.

The Polish are famous for their Catholicity.

From now on they will walk away too.

69 thoughts on “NEW FILM EXPOSES CATHOLIC SEX ABUSE IN POLAND

  1. Wherever is institutional Roman Catholicism (with her popes, cardinals, bishops, priests, nuns, brothers) there is pure 😅 unadulterated EVIL.
    Please keep your children away from these filthy PERVERTS. These Christ-betrayers.
    What an entry in one’s CV! I was a Roman Catholic priest or religious.
    The supreme badge of dishonour.😅
    The badge of a stinking, parasitical PERVERT.😅

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    1. @2:01am – you are a complete and utter moron. 😃

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      1. Bob the builder 16th May 2019 — 8:26 pm

        You could add nuts to that!

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    2. Up at 2am. Hammered no doubt. You need help hun

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    3. What a daft thing to write 😂😂😂

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    4. 2.01: The greatest abuser of all – Mags The Rag….drunk out of his skull. He is most certainly brain damaged, sadly. What a pity and and it’s an utter disgrace that Buckley uses this abuser to abuse others. Outrageous on your part Pat. Outrageous. Strange how “whited sepulchures” easily identify themselves by their actions; in this instance, Buckley by printing this hate speech. You know by now the madness and perversion of Magna with drink. Why are you facilitating an alcoholic to abuse so horrendously. If that monster fell out of a pub and spoke these words in front of a PSNI officer or Garda, he’d be arrested for incitement to hatred. Why Pat are you encouraging and enabling this alcoholic? I am making my way to my local PSNI station to seek advice.

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      1. Good luck with that.😅

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    5. MC
      Are you alright re 2am ? U need something to get off your chest. Here is the place to do it and feel better.
      You can’t have both ways re priest or religious??? So we all know what that RCC do and their modus operandi in facilitating abusers as it did in my ex Alma mater deaf school.
      You have the sharpest pen to write as your imagination run wild.
      DU.

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      1. “Magna Carta”, ever considered a few months in Sr Consilio’s? I wonder would there be room for all of you though?

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    6. Sr. Mary Tro (Secretary without an alb) 16th May 2019 — 2:37 pm

      @2:01am. God bless the mark

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      1. Yes indeed. And I certainly hit it at 2:01!😅

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    7. Dorothy Zbornak 16th May 2019 — 5:37 pm

      Poor Fella isn’t the full shilling

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    8. Being translated into plain English:
      “I was found unsuitable for ordination by the seminary authorities. I have never got over that.”

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  2. Dallas police raid Catholic diocese in search of files on clerical abusers. This sort of thing is going to be very common.
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/15/us/dallas-catholic-diocese-sex-abuse-raid/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

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    1. The sooner police raids start happening in this neck of the woods the better.

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  3. Well we all knew that was coming. Next the Philippines.

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  4. The collapse of the Catholic Church in Ireland followed the RTE film ‘States of Fear’ broadcast in spring 1999, so maybe this new Polish film will have the same effect in Poland. I note “the Devil” is being blamed early on in the film!

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    1. 7.02am
      RCC hasn’t collapsed yet and still surviving since bishop Casey story broke in 1990’s.
      How long would that take to collapse?
      Nobody knows for sure including myself. In decline, yes but for how long???
      One thing I noticed that families stopped inviting priests into their homes as it did to our house many years ago. When any such tragedy happens , normally back then, priest PP of that parish would speak on behalf of family bereaved etc. But that’s gone now as bereaved families or relatives come forward and speak instead of a priest in rte.

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      1. what are ya on about

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      2. 2.14: Would you kindly rewrite your comments more articulately, if possible?? What are you trying to say?

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    2. With a population of 38.5 million, it would need to be broadcast on national television to have an impact, but I imagine the church also has control over that too in Poland.

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  5. Fly on Th Wall 16th May 2019 — 8:11 am

    Top oath mornin hi. Sure tis not about turning away from church or anywhere else but turnin towards Jesus Why is negative before positive even in the Baptism ceremony. The call is Follow the Gospel. In so doing one will turn towards Christ and in consequence turn away from sin but

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    1. Mornin fly hi.
      Begorra fly there’s the problem….turning towards and turning away. Doin the twist!
      Too many have turned away. Salt and losing taste comes to mind.
      As the Bish said yesterday, ye can’t give what he haven’t got.
      Back to basics…knees down.
      Bye hi fly.

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      1. Magwa are you in love with d’auld Fly hi?
        Every time the Fly comments you’re in there like right up behind him hi but?

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  6. Where’s Fr Robert McGivney and Fr Dwayne Gavin? No mention of either in the new list of changes for Meath.

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    1. Is it any of your feckin business where they are?

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      1. Well when they were being appointed to parishes we were treated to their biographies and what they are for breakfast. Why is it none of our business anymore? Surely the faithful ought to be informed.

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      2. What they ate for breakfast

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  7. These abusers are paedophiles who became priests, not priests who became paedophiles. Everywhere a paedophile will gain employment and positions that bring them near to children and the lesser the suspicion the better. I think its important to understand this. I think its so easy to use this terrible atrocity to call the Church evil and to further ones own agenda.

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    1. 9:36
      Simplistic generalizations.
      What about the systemic Church cover up by bishops plus moving abusers from parish to parish and even country to country. This terrible atrocity is going on in the Church for centuries.

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      1. 11:24
        I’m afraid it’s your comment which is simplistic in the extreme and a generalisation at the same time. 9:36 is making a valid point. You don’t or won’t see it. Why not? Does it undermine your own narrative?
        You talk about cover up by bishops. Covering up of sexual abuse of children happens wherever abuse occurs. For example, what about the cover-ups in the past, and, we may safely assume, today also by a parent in relation to the other parent. If the percentage of sexual abusers among the clergy is the same as it is in society at large, why is there not much more reporting of domestic child sexual abuse? Your focus on the Church is simplistic and it fails to contextualise that abuse.
        A society gets the clergy it deserves and the church it deserves.

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      2. 1:59 is using the generalisation or point the finger elsewhere tactic to try to avoid the issue, combined with detracting from the original commenter.
        What makes me laugh is the people who daily try that on here and Pat keeps on.
        You carry on, love, the emperor is still naked.

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      3. Dear 6:39,
        It’s called contextualisation. Nothing can be properly understood outside of its context. It may not suit you to adopt such a sophisticated method of interpretation. But it’s the intelligent way.

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  8. Or AFRICA or Latin Americas. Me think in 10 years time it may be Africa cos they were starting back in 1960’s when the missionaries went over there. Lot of religious orders went there especially SMA as I know one priest still there as he loves it.

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    1. 10:58 Myopia and delusion. Do you think that the sexual abuse of children on these continents waited for Christian missionaries to arrive? You poorly written post shows little or no appreciation of historical context.

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      1. 2.01pm
        I never said that the children waited for missionaries as it was you who brought it up.
        A priest that I knew is one of the few good priests in Africa as he’s Irish born priest. I don’t know exactly what’s going on in some parts of africa especially Nigeria and Uganda. Heard here and there re a priest living with a nun but nothing on child abuse. But that will come out in a matter of when? Also I noticed a very strong homophobia there.
        Few black priests working here and more priests from that part of Africa will come and replace our priests in near future.
        Is Africa RCC corrupt ? I don’t know cos very little details coming out so hard to know.
        DU.

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      2. 2:01
        Oh, stop with the apologetics for the institutional Roman Catholic Church! It has willingly played in the mud and has tarnished itself.
        I wouldn’t want any child near a Roman Catholic priest or religious.

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    2. @1:59
      Rubbish. Defensive rubbish. Your narrative is being undermined. The Church is the People of God and not only the clergy and hierarchy. All that mattered to the clergy and hierarchy was covering up crime, corruption and gross hypocrisy, to maintain status, power and the hypocritical image of the clerical brotherhood and the associated perks. It was systemic cover up…from the top down. Organised cover up, CRIME,… from the top down. From the supposedly morally superior, my a**e, other Christs, ontologically changed. The brotherhood comes first, not Jesus Christ or the Gospel of Gospel values.
      Get real, come out of denial and stop living in the land of pollyanna!

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  9. Pat they are making a movie about Stephen LOOOL

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    1. The movie is not like one night in Paris but one night in the Maynooth rabbit room xxx.

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      1. Two of the actors in the play are called Brendan and Ronan. They have their facts right!

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      2. Tied up 🐇🐇

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      3. 11:55
        Haha Bravo 👏

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    2. 10.22 Have you nothing better to do that to vent your resentment here? Childish, infantile, jejune.

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    3. Brendan and Stephen AGAIN – and who the hell is Ronan? I though Maynooth was almost empty and yet still plenty of names being kicked around. That place seems a bottomless pit in every sense.

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      1. Ronan Sheehan is the cork boy that was showing Armagh’s Brendan Marshall his new bed sheets and a seminarian caught them and that seminarian got kicked out. Remember?

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      2. Pat, please stop publishing these anonymous comments which defame, bully and harass others.

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  10. No surpasses here. Another confessional Catholic country, where Church and State are intertwined even still, as it was in Ireland in the 20th century. Covering for each other. Giving each other the benefit of the doubt. Allowing abuse of power and privilege. Leading to abuse of the vulnerable.

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  11. 2.39: Magna, no CHILD or VULNERABLE PERSIN should most definitely be in your presence. Your propensity to abuse through word will soon find expression in physical and sexual abuse because of your derangement of mind, immaturity, angst and violence instigated and fuelled by drink. Ask any relationship or family therapist. Pat ought to be more responsible in disabling your tyranny of abuse. Your moral deficiencies and transgressions will soon have you in deep waters. Pat, you are utterly irresponsible and contemptible to exploit this man’s outrageous hatred.

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    1. This is my take on the self-described “Magna Carta composite”.
      It’s a small number of priests and ex-seminarians. They are all pals from seminary.
      They are are being deliberately provocative and, by making the most outrageous, irrational, offensive and outlandish statements, they are simply trolling for a reaction (which they get in abundance).
      Basically, they are having a laugh and playing a game. They pretend they like Pat Buckley but they are tittering at him behind his back.
      There is also a strong “gay” presence in this composite.
      Most likely, there is one overall ‘animateur’ in the composite who orchestrates the whole business. Can you just imagine how dysfunctional he is??? Lock up your sons and grandsons away from this creature!!!
      The best way to respond to the MC composite is to not respond. This thing thrives on attention.
      The more it annoys, upsets, offends and infuriates, the happier is the composite (I mean, can you not hear the drunken girly giggling?)

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      1. 4:16
        Paranoid ideation, projection and a fantasist.
        You’re telling us far more about yourself and nothing about MC. 😅

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      2. 3:25 & 4:16
        Hear, hear!
        Roast the bastardos, I say!
        Roast ’em.😈😅

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      3. 4.16: You may be correct in your analysis but the issue is more and more being focused on Buckley’s total irresponsibility in nurturing, supporting, facilitating and encouraging the vile hatred and abuse that issues forth from this ugly beast, for that is what “it” is. If truth be fully known, Pat is known by and friendly with “it”!! There can be no justification for the publication of hate speech. When this beast consumes drink it awakens into a grotesque perversion. “It” is probably starved of sexual intimacy, love, meaningful relationships, friends that fame and purpose is achieved from the reactions of others. But, Pat should not be so morally reckless in promoting this hate-filled being.

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  12. I bet you’re not going to cover the Anglican Bishop of Lincoln who was suspended over a safeguarding issue today. No, because, like most Irish people now, you are viciously anti-Catholic and anything that doesn’t fit your twisted narrative never gets coverage.

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    1. He published your comment though didn’t he? You lose the bet.

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  13. This past century from 1908 the law has been developing for the welfare and protection of children, with laws becoming international and European towards our present date. The past 100 years or so amongst other things the sexual abuse of children has become well known, progressively all of society (including the Church) have eventually put in place sufficient safeguarding practices. Today convicted paedophiles in Northern
    Ireland are moved around by social services constantly. having been prosecuted and through treatment or therapy, they need somewhere to go. I think readers of this blog should familiarise themselves with all the facts. Yes children have been let down by the cover up in which we all as a society had a part to play because at times it was too difficult to deal with without stringent guidelines, without proper networks. Nobody was prepared enough to have all the right answers. But to blame the Catholic Church is ignorant of
    course as like everyone else they could have preformed better. Paedophilia is a problen that universally we own. The protection of children universally we own. I pray that all catholics will not be fooled
    by subjectivity and become closer to Jesus the Word Of God. I pray for all those who have suffered and continue to suffer and ask God the Fasther, Son and Holy Spirit to help all of us to ensure that no harm be done to another ever again.

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    1. Stop the apologetics for the Church, please! Stop trying to reduce every segment of society to one, nondescript, homogeneous lump.
      The Roman Catholic Church, in its unbridled arrogance😅, calls itself a moral authority and has the temerity to lecture the rest of the world on its behaviour and attitudes. It deserves, therefore, the lion’s share of recrimination for concealing the sexual abuse of kids by filthy, perverted, parasitical Roman Catholic priests. Even today it retains ‘pontifical secrecy’, the code of conduct that both enabled and maintained concealment of such abuse since 1922 with the publication of avfilthy papal decree, ‘Crimen Solicitationis’.😆

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      1. The year was 1962 and the instruction was called “Crimen sollicitationis.” It was not a papal document but was issued rather by the Holy Office.
        Clearly the Magna Carta sent out to bat today is one of the less able ones.

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    2. 12:00
      Actually, ‘Crimen Solicitationis’ was REISSUED in 1962 by Pope John XXIII, but it was first published in 1922 by Pope Pius XI. And yes, it was a papal decree.
      Just WHO is ‘less able’ here?😆

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      1. 1. The instruction of 1962 was not a papal document. It was published by the Holy Office.

        http://www.vatican.va/resources/resources_crimen-sollicitationis-1962_en.html

        2. It was an amplification and not a reissue of an earlier document. Their names were identical which is what may have led you to misread them.

        3. You have misspelled the document’s name on each occasion.

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    3. 3:15
      Did you post also at 12:00? This post clearly denies that ‘Crimen Sollicitationis’ was published in 1922; it was, by Pope Pius XI, that is, ‘on his order’ (or ‘instruction) through the agency of the so-called (and informally known) ‘Holy Office’. Stop splitting hairs. That poster was wrong. If this was you, then, more specifically, YOU were wrong.
      And where did I state that ‘Crimen Sollicitationis’ was a papal document? I made no such statement. On the contrary, I expressly said, at 10:55, that it was a ‘papal decree’. And what is a decree but an order (or instruction).
      The instruction was indeed reissued in 1962, by Pope John XXIII, with only minor changes. It was, therefore, substantially reissued in this year. Again, stop splitting hairs.
      So I misspelt ‘Sollicitationis’. Your point?

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  14. 2.37: Sr. Consilio would havevto have protection from this demented fool, Magna. But being the sensible, sharp, intelligent and wise lady that she is, she’d have Mags taken to St. Pat’s or St. John of God psychiatric units for clinical assessment. That then would be the end for Magsy. She (Magsy) should seriously receive professional therapy. Pat, seeing that you are nourishing his cravings for notoriety (in drunkenness), don’t you have a moral and Christian duty of care not to be pushing this person closer to the edge by using his abuse against others? Is that too much to ask of you in the name of Jesus?

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  15. Magna at2:38. Spot on. I don’t agree with all your posts but on this you have hit the nail on the head. Those who are attacking you for this post are ignoring (and therefore silently complicit) where the real problem lies. You are right. The Catholic Church has played in the mud and we are starting to see their mucky hands

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    1. Magna’s comments are so often insightful. So many posters take comfort in chastising him but Jesus wants us to respond to the issues and to make progress. Too much of what Magna says is factual. We need to realise this and respond without throwing the baby out with the bath water.

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    2. Magna Carta talking to themselves at 9.09. One of them doesn’t always agree with another!!! As if that puts the alert reader of the scent.

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  16. Da ya no what hi. A sofa firm talks about sofology but lots bullschytology on here today. No wonder the sheep are starving hi

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    1. Do ya no what hi Fly? I’m in love with you but hi. There. A said it hi but.

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    2. Fly on Th Wall 17th May 2019 — 5:01 pm

      Magwa D’ya no what Id blush only me face is sunburned. In reality.Many of these are like bees in a beehive but there is no honey in the hive. God is forgotten, people are underlings. Its a game of romes (Hi)

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  17. The Carta cartel is rattled so it takes to posting anonymously – eg at 5:08pm

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