IS AMY MARTIN A MINCING GAY OR JUST DOWNRIGHT EFFEMINATE?

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AMY (EAMON) MARTIN PUT ON A HORRIBLY EMBARRASSING SHOW ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON FOR THE ORDINATION OF HIS NEW AUXILIARY MICHAEL ROUTER.

I only watched a small part of it – but it was as cringe worthy as watching poor Daniel O’Donnell trying to make natural movements.

His voice and delivery was as camp as camp.

And his loud singing was like watching Shirley Temple sing On The Good Ship Lollipop.

He is absolutely full of pious diaherria going on about an auxiliary being there to serve “A SENIOR PRELATE” (himself) and about bishops having “THE FULNESS OF THE PRIESTHOOD” (himsef) and receiving the Sacrament of Holy Orders “THREE TIMES” (HIMSELF).

Is a bishop like triple cooked chips and a priest only like oven cooked chips?

He just loves being all dressed up and performing his mega gig in front of his fellow clerics and the Cathbots gathered in Armagh to kiss all their rings.

It really is a medieval and outdated mutual admiration society.

When God was making Amy he certainly had no testosterone to put inside him that day.

Mind you, I think their is a nasty queen inside Amy – well able to bluster and bully when any of his underlings in Armagh displease him. I have heard the stories.

In any event he is a very weak leader for the Irish RC church at a time when it’s on its needs.

Even a strong leader would find the challenge extremely daunting.

But a girly archbishop going around with a lisp sprinkling holy water at us and telling us to say the Rosary will simply not cut it.

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Here’s Amy’s drivel
Dear brothers and sisters, I remember six years ago sitting where Father Michael is right now, awaiting the central moment of my episcopal ordination – the laying on of hands by all the bishops present. Cardinal Brady was the principal consecrator that day, and also present was Bishop Edward Daly who had ordained me as a priest in Derry, back in 1987 – may God rest his soul. A bishop receives the sacrament of Holy Orders three times in his life: firstly, when he is ordained as a deacon; then, at his priestly ordination; and, finally, when he receives ‘the fullness of orders’ as a bishop.
In a few moments the bishops here present, by the laying on of hands and by praying together the prayer of consecration, will continue to pass on the line of episcopal succession that is unbroken since the time of the apostles. In that way, Bishop Michael will not only become a close co-worker with me here in the Archdiocese of Armagh, but he will also become a brother within the “college of bishops” and under the authority the successor of Peter. He will share with all the bishops here, and around the world, the task of aintaining the deposit of faith, and “witnessing to the truth of the Gospel”.
I’m fondly remembering today the late Bishop Gerry Clifford, the last auxiliary bishop of Armagh, who died two and half years ago. I know that, like Bishop Clifford, Michael has great personal and pastoral gifts to bring to our diocesan projects and initiatives. For this I am grateful to God; to Pope Francis; to you, his parents and family, and to his brother priests, religious and people from the diocese of Kilmore – thank you for nurturing and sustaining Michael’s vocation. Fr Michael I want to assure you of my own personal closeness and support. I am confident that you will receive a warm welcome and prayerful good wishes throughout Archdiocese of Armagh, and also when you visit the Diocese of Dromore in support of my assignment as Apostolic Administrator there.
Fr Michael you will find life as a bishop to be fulfilling and interesting – although not without its challenges! The role and ministry of a Bishop has changed immensely since the appointment of the first auxiliary bishop to Armagh, Bishop William Conway, who came to us from Down and Connor more than sixty years ago.
The burden of administration has grown much heavier since then, and the needs of our people, priests and society have become more complex. The Church’s teaching on many important social and moral issues, including marriage and the sacredness of all human life, has become increasingly countercultural. With the decline in religious practice and fewer vocations to the priesthood and consecrated life, we are have once again entered “mission mode” here in Ireland, and sometimes it’s difficult to discern precisely where the Holy Spirit is leading us. However, despite all this change, the fundamental calling of the bishop remains as it has been handed on to us since the earliest days of the Church:
You are called to be a devoted father and a brother who loves all those whom God places in your care – especially the priests and deacons who share with you the ministry of Christ. You are asked to be a good shepherd, praying and caring for the whole flock, loving especially the poor and infirm, the stranger, and those who are isolated, lost or going astray,
Believe me, you will never have a dull moment! I have to admit, Fr Michael, that when I listen to today’s Gospel story about Martha and Mary, my sympathies often lie with poor Martha – who ended up rushing around, fussing and fretting to make sure everything possible was being done for her guest, while her sister Mary sat quietly at the feet of Jesus, enraptured as he spoke to her. You will find, as a bishop, that it is very easy to get pulled this way and that, with so many demands, duties, meetings and administrative responsibilities, that it is not always easy to find time to be still in the presence of the Lord, and to listen to Him in prayer.
Forty years ago, when Pope St John Paul II came to Ireland, he spoke of the danger of becoming so immersed in the work of the Lord that we forget the Lord of the work – “Your first duty”, he advised us, “is to be with Christ” (Maynooth 1.10.1979).
Last August, when Pope Francis spoke to the bishops of Ireland at the end of the World Meeting of Families, he said something similar: “What is the first uty of the bishop?”, he asked. “I say it to everyone: it is prayer”.
Of course there is no contradiction between spending time in pastoral activity and giving time in prayer before the Lord. Indeed the opposite is the case. Listening prayerfully to God’s Word gives meaning and purpose to all our daily actions and helps us avoid becoming overburdened, as Martha was, with “too much serving”. The grace of the Holy Spirit found in prayer, strengthens us with hope to face the anxieties and struggles of daily living.
Pope Francis said shortly after his election: “Prayer and action should never be separated, but lived in profound unity – They are essential – together” (Angelus 21.07.2013).
Spending time with God’s Word in prayer offers inspiration for each day. Take, for example, today’s First Reading: When young Jeremiah heard God calling him to be a prophet to the nations, he protested, “Ah Lord; look, I do not know how to speak: I am only a child!’
Michael, there will be times as a bishop when you, like Jeremiah, may feel overwhelmed by your own limitations and by what God is asking of you. On those occasions, take some time to be alone with God, and find comfort in God’s reply to Jeremiah:
“Do not be afraid of them, for I am with you to protect you – it is the Lord who speaks!’ I am putting my words into your mouth”.
In a few moments, as you kneel in silence to receive the laying on of hands by all the bishops here present, I encourage you to be at peace with God’s new call and plans for you. You will never be on your own.
“Attend to the whole flock in which the Holy Spirit appoints you an overseer of the Church of God — in the name of the Father, whose image you personify in the Church — and in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, whose role of Teacher, Priest, and Shepherd you undertake — and in the name of the Holy Spirit, who gives life to the Church of Christ and supports our weakness with his strength”.
Amen.

67 thoughts on “IS AMY MARTIN A MINCING GAY OR JUST DOWNRIGHT EFFEMINATE?

  1. I agree entirely with what you say, I’m not asupporter of the vast amount you contribute to, but regarding this, the ordination on Sunday was totally cringe worthy in many aspects, but the pretence attitude and voice is not becoming if that archbishop, its false, false, false. My sense of the episcopal gathering is that they do not strike one as a congenial bunch, they strike as careerist in the so called pastoral bishops compared to the once intellectual bishops. I think its all pretence. Very few bishops in attendance, about ten. Then to see that curate McHugh prance about the holy sanctuary in his fine woven surplis, it was very cringe worthy, compared to other recent episcopal ordinations, fine fitting liturgies. What btw has ever happened to the Armagh curate Rory C??

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    1. Your comment is cringeworthy. It’s surplice btw.

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  2. To answer your question I think he’s both. Most of his clergy refer to him as Amy and that’s where the name originated – amongst Armagh Clergy. Their is no doubt that Eamon hates being challenged and I know he has been cruel to people who have challenged him. I concur that his impulse to sing makes him appear very effeminate. His over the top Church spake and terminology speaks of a man with very little pastoral experience but a man institutionalised and highlights years within a college far removed from the outside world. Too young for such a senior appointment and too inexperienced. His predecessors were disasters and nothing seems to have changed. Is it any wonder Armagh clergy think they are a cut above the rest, are arrogant and think they can Lord it over the people. What a total shambles of a diocese and what a joke. Maybe the should send in Boris to sort out Armagh, they are used to Clowns running by now.

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    1. Full of prejudice and bias. Travel on the continent a bit more and put your head inside a Catholic church while there. It’s obvious you are conspicuous by your absence. You’ll see that the presidential prayers are intended to be sung and are actually so in a great number of instances. In your church-going youth I assume you preferred the 20-min Mass.

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  3. Micky from the Moy 24th Jul 2019 — 2:22 am

    I’m sure thon bucko Rory Coyle could tell a tale or two

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  4. I can’t help feeling that the tone of the blog this morning is homophobic.
    Effeminacy does not necessarily equate to being gay.

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    1. rumour has it Boris Johnson will be phoning princess gardens. is there a job for Pat?

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      1. I met Boris when I worked for the news of the World for eleven years

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  5. Don’t really care if he is gay or not but the hypocrisy of the man is astounding just like his mate in Down and Connor. They don’t live in the real world. It’s all a pantomime. Bishops should be there to serve God and the people, not their superiors. These men are antiquated fools, caught up in the grandeur of lace and tiaras. This is a business not an organisation which serves God. It is way past its sell by date. No doubt we’ll have the enablers on here today defending him. Are they so blind that they cannot see. They continue to confer their money on these bloody egomaniacs so that their show can continue. If it wasn’t so serious it would be laughable. Redemption is found through Christ not through a bunch of pantomime Dames. Oh no it isn’t!

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  6. Pat let it be known Archbishop Eamon Martin did rebel against Fr Mullaney. Mullaney did his best to protect Brendan Marshall however failed.

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    1. Who cares about Brendan Marshall. Forget that idiot and move on

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    2. Learn to write proper English. You sound like a former seminarian.

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  7. Fly On Th Wall 24th Jul 2019 — 7:53 am

    I suppose it’s not fair to stereotype but this stuff about a triple dose of priesthood is rubbish. Also in the world of stereotype would you be the mitered avenger hi but

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  8. Pat, I thought you promised some time back that you would move beyond unnecessary name calling and insult g, offensive characterisation of people. This piece by you today is regrettable. It is a personalised slur on the Archbishop, undeserved and rude. It is the kind of comment, if written by a school girl or boy about one of their peers, would have them severely reprimanded as bullies. Don’t we expect adults to act better? But the promise you made…..well! I can 8nly conclude that there is a passive aggressive spirit in your psyche that is ruthless and dangerous..Surely, Archbishop Martin deserves to be respected….

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  9. Pat, what has Eamonn Martin’s sexuality to do with you or me or anyone else? Pointless blog.

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    1. The problem is, he vows a religious life of celibacy but thinks he can decide who else can get married by the state, so he’s fair game.

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      1. 9.28: You certainly didn’t study logic or for that matter don’t seem to be educated with such an ignorant comment.

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  10. Probably both, I would say ! Twee, full of shite, pious nitwit, who is out of his depth. But, we are stuck with him for a long, long time. He probably doesn’t realise how increasingly irrelevant he and his ilk are becoming in our society. He may believe his own spin about the preciousness of his episcopacy and priesthood, but pretty much nobody else takes that seriously anymore. He will continue to live in a smaller and small rarified atmosphere of devotees, but will find himself increasingly isolated from the rest of the world. He’s welcome to it.

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  11. Pat, better to have Archbishop Martin invite people to pray together than to have You, as an enemy, lead God’s people on pathways to error, hatred, perdition, confusion, apostasy, lies, immorality and a “do what you like philosophy” so long as you don’t hurt anyone. I prefer the moral, spiritual and theological creeds from The Archbishop than from an apostate in Larne. Your offensive, effeminisation of the Archbishop is overstepping a boundary of respect, tolerance and human devency. I cannot fathom.this approach. Who of us is so perfect that we can give ourselves the luxury of tearing others to pieces on their looks, their voice, their personal traits (lisp)? Don’t you think that offense is too far? There are people who speak with a lisp and who suffer taunts, mockery and bullying – so Pat, as an adult, this kind of language should have no place in a dialogue about the rights or wrongs of a particular ministry being performed by any one, despite your disdain for such people. Christ would not jeer, ridicule or belittle anyone on the evidence of physical traits!

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  12. It sounds excruciating, Bp Pt, is it on Youtube?

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    1. Can you supply the link?

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  13. Don’t think its online Pat. I notice Amy references that excuse for a human being Sean Brady in his speech, in case anyone has forgotten he’s the man who asked little children did they enjoy being abused by Brendan Smyth.

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  14. Sorry to disappoint you all but over the next 18 moths there will be two Major appointments in Ireland however in what order we do not know they are a New Archbishop for Dublin and Archbishop Martin to be elevated to Cardinal.
    Sunday was a pantomime and really the clergy of Dromore can tell + Michael it has nothing to do with him under Canon Law and it is so sad + Martin does not know this however if Dromore is too much for + Martin then he can appoint a Papal delegate from Dromore to assist him but NOT + Michael.
    Father McHugh looks after + Martin well and maybe promoted soon in the changes and Father McHugh’s assistant will replace him in the Cathedral.
    I think I may have it wrong but quiet sure I have not and Bishop Pat can correct me is it not the major duty of a Priest to celebrate Holy Mass as why was the cathedral Administrator walking around like a security officer rather that concelebrating Holy Mass with them all even although he is not the Best at the Cathedral Big Hugh carries him.

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    1. It’s called MC – master of ceremonies.

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      1. 10.50
        + Martin will not make him his Official MC made in next round of clergy appointments.
        And if he was an Archbishops MC he would be in Purple not black like a junior.

        It is called Clerical Attire.

        Why the Bishops Conference has not addressed Clerical dress is shocking as some of them dress as Anglicans in Grey with no disrespect to the Anglican Roman Catholic Clergy were always in black.

        God Bless

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  15. Anyone know what he did with Rory Coyle and Mrs McCamley?

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    1. It is thought that he sent them to the same clinic in the US?

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      1. I imagine their rehabilitation and reassignment in Ireland would be more problematic than say, the gay porn scandal cleric, Fr McVeigh, who turned up in Clogherhead.

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    2. Dear Paul D. I’m afraid you have no idea what you are talking about. It doesn’t matter a whole lot, in fact it doesn’t matter at all what colour someone does or does not wear. But if you are going to pontificate that an M.C. should wear one or the other, check your facts.
      I’m sure the Bishops’ Conference has a lot more to be thinking about than whether people in Holy Orders should be wearing black or grey or blue or any other colour you like. If you call their omission a ‘disgrace’ your priorities need to be re-set. Have a glimpse at Pope Francis’ position on the matter.

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  16. Have you ever watched a film that was not intended as a comedy, but couldn’t stop laughing at the more serious parts of it?

    Some time ago, I watched The Land that Time Forgot, with Doug McClure. It was released in 1977, and the plot concerns people who find themselves in what can be described only as a parallel world. This one is like Jurassic Park, populated by predatory dinosaurs. But unlike Jurassic Park, the other film’s special effects are 1970s kitch, and the dinosaurs in it are as convincing as glove puppets made at an arts-and-crafts evening class in a local library.

    Arcbishop Martin’s address reminds me, in parts, of that film: intentionally serious, and yet, unintentionally hilarious.

    Speaking directly to the candidate for new auxiliary bishop, Michael Router, Archbishop Martin, without the slightest awareness of the moment’s high irony, nor a trace of his tongue’s bulging his cheek, declared Michael in his imminent consecration as an ‘overseer’ to be ‘…in the name of the Father, WHOSE IMAGE YOU PERSONIFY IN THE CHURCH – and in the name of his son, Jesus Christ, WHOSE ROLE OF TEACHER, PRIEST, AND SHEPHERD YOU UNDERTAKE…’. (My capitals.)

    Those supremely high acclamations for an impending Roman Catholic bishop made me think of Richard Dawkin’s book, ‘The God Delusion’. Now I don’t agree with Dawkins (nor our friend, MMM, for that matter) that God himself is a delusion, but I should agree, very readily, that Eamon Martin, Michael Router, and all the other mitred self-promoters in the Church are not only deluded about themselves when they make such statements, but are positively schizophrenic through their inability to reconcile what has gone on among them in the real world and what jarringly exists in their surreal and disordered minds.

    They are like much older children who refuse to let go of warm, fuzzy beliefs from years back…like the existence of Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.

    Other children know better and have moved on. But their contemporaries remain stuck in a regressive rut…to everyone else’s wry amusement.

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    1. Bluff and a bag of wind at 11:20 a.m.

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      1. 11:21, actually. (Guffaw, guffaw, guffaw 😅)

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  17. Bishop Pat, you choose to not publish a number of my comments. As I said, two days ago, I know of Archbishop Dermot Martin’s homosexual activity in Rome, known to Cardinal Sean Brady at the Irish College.

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    1. Can you back this statement up?

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      1. Be careful Pat they are lying in wait for you to make a mistake.

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      2. Ask Georgeus

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  18. What a disgusting litany of abusive comments from almost all contributors, including MMM – Moaning Mouth Minnie. The invective is morally reprehensible. It is homophobic because in inciting derision, name calling and mockery of Archbishop Martin because of his mannerisms, you do likewise to many, many gay people who are infinitely worse than Eamon Martin. The blog today is offensive. There is something terribly nasty about the treatment of the Archbishop. MMM – shame on you, atheist.

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    1. 1:27

      MMM, hasn’t commented…yet.

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      1. 12.57: MMM was jumping up and down yesterday making all kinds of ridiculous arguments and expressing very anti Catholic and anti priest opinions…he usually follows Pat’s lead….And as for your mindset?? Enough said. Ad nauseam, ad nauseam, ad nauseam….

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    2. 2:22
      Oh, no. You are not wriggling off the hook upon which you stupidly impaled yourself. You were referring to today’s blog, not yesterday’s.
      Trying to hide your massive faux pas (not to mention your embarrassment) behind such a transparent a lie isn’t mature; it’s childish, really. It’s also amusingly unclever.
      You have been caught out and called out making a false allegation against a fellow contributor. You really ought to apologise. You would…if you were emotionally all grown up.

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      1. MournemanMichael 24th Jul 2019 — 4:33 pm

        Thank you Magna. When the poster @ 2:22 mistakingly refers to me “jumping up and down” he may well be describing his own reactions, incandescent rage and all, at having his views and beliefs challenged but unable to make a sensible reply with any semblance of coherency.
        You’ll have regularly seen such infantile regression from our more limited posters, and I see little benefit in replying.
        MMM

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      2. 2.r0: Magna, embarrassment and Me do not fit together in the same sentence. MMM was indeed making horrible judgments yesterday, thus my reference to him, justufuabky so, irrespectuve of timescale. As for emotionally grown up: Magna, I stand as a giant beside you in integrity, honesty, conscience, goodness of spirit and intention and justice. You, sadly, impale yourself on your own pathetic, poisonous, rotten, nasty and putrid tongue. You reveal an impoverishment of humanity, empathy and spiritual feeling. Go hump it back to your small, dark world. Life is wonderfully good for me and I’m thankful to God for the blessings.

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      3. If you re-read the comment at 2.22 dear Nagna Cartax you’ll see there was no temporal adverbial modifier. What you may have read into that comment is just that: eisegesis.
        Talk about wriggling from a self-impaled hook is rich coming from you. You are evading the challenge to produce the linguist evidence of your far-fetched claims to know something about Aramaic and Hellenistic with what must be the most pathetic, excuse of a reply.

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    3. 5:02

      You should have stayed down; that way we could at least have forgotten your public display of carelessness, compounded by utter stupidity, and with a deep filling of (despite what you said) personal embarrassment.

      I knew you wouldn’t apologise (It takes backbone and humility for that.), but I did credit you with sufficient self-interest just to slink away. (‘Slink’: a fitting word for you.)

      I hate using the M-word to describe someone’s level of intelligence, but as you returned for a second drubbing by me, there’s really no alternative to it.

      It’s impossible to save face when there is no face to save.

      I ‘ll leave it at that.

      Goodbye.

      And good riddance.

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      1. Well said 5:02
        1+

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    4. 11:00

      ‘Hellenistic’ is an adjective; it refers to things that RELATE to Greek culture, language, and history. It does not denote Greek itself, much less the dialect Koine Greek

      ‘…excuse FOR a reply.’

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      1. Dear Nagna Cartax,
        You claim ‘Hellenistic’ does not denote Greek “much less, the dialect (sic) Koine Greek.”
        1. ‘Hellenistic’ when applied to the Greek language, refers to the post-classical, that is, the post-Homeric period. It is the language of the Septuagint and of the N.T. It is a synonym for ‘Koine,’ literally, ‘common’ Greek, in contradistinction to ‘classical’ Greek.
        2. Contrary to what you claim, ‘koine’ was not a dialect, but the Greek of a historical period, i.e. the post-classical period.
        3. Since you had no knowledge of, and even disputed these fundamental matters, there is no chance that you would have been able to produce the evidence of the linguistic forms of Aramaic or Greek which you bandied about. Even if Wikipedia had supplied the information on the linguistic forms, you wouldn’t have been in a position to evaluate them.

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  19. I doubt it Pat if there was any evidence it would be out there by now. Don’t get lured into a defamation law suit.

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  20. Dr. John Twomey 24th Jul 2019 — 1:37 pm

    Pat
    I have been following this blog for some time and I have come to the conclusion that you are a homosexual homophobe. You direct so much hate toward other homosexuals it is psychologically fascinating to me.
    I know you feel you are exposing these people but the fact that you focus primarily on sexuality would indicate a lack of sexual maturity on your part.
    Respectfully, I would encourage you to get some counselling. I think you are trying to victimise other homosexuals as a way of justifying your own behaviour. It is not healthy.

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    1. If you were a true doctor surely you would not be diagnosing peole over social media.

      I am not a homophobia. I work everyday with gay people. I am working all day today on a complicated situation for a gay man.

      What this blog does is to challenge gay and effeminate hypocrites.

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      1. I dislike institutionalised prejudice such as homophobia from whatever direction it comes. Even in these more enlightened days, anyone who is LGBT+ will be able to cite smaller or bigger examples of casual or deliberate (at best) thoughtlessness and (at worst) actionable prejudice. It is hurtful and demeaning in the extreme.
        I support absolutely the times when on this blog occasions of hypocrisy and failure have been highlighted. The Church and its adherents are confused and frankly utterly screwed up on so many issues related to human sexuality and in the C21st, it is right to subject these to questioning and careful examination. The Church has in the past caused people much harm and continues to do so.
        I think the “performance” of the archbishop on Sunday was “interesting”. I do not understand, however, by descending to the kind of abuse which gay people including myself have endured, how the cause of greater tolerance and justice is promoted. I felt very queasy this morning when I read today’s post: frankly I had hoped for better. If we are striving to be more Christ-like, we need to model ourselves within our own limitations upon His behaviour. Even with those engaged in commerce in the Temple, He condemned the behaviour and its outward expression. He did not resort (at least as far as the text tells us) to vulgar abuse.
        The comments on the archbishop might give credence to the idea that there is something wrong with a gay man who is effeminate. Bigots throughout the centuries have certainly argued this and the damage caused by it to individuals who have led a sham-life is incalculable. Life is challenge enough; surely we should be trying to make people accept themselves for what they are and not (even inadvertently) encouraging the sort of self-loathing that only leads to ruin?

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      2. Amy does seem to somewhat lack any masculine evidence, but he could be a 100% heterosexual male who’s body language and way of walking, speaking, and singing is totally effeminate.

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  21. Bishop Len and The Craggy Crew with guest artists The Purple Gang with The Three Chancers 24th Jul 2019 — 3:28 pm

    On the Good Ship Lollipop
    By Richard Whiting / Sidney Clare
    Sung by Shirly Temple
    I’ve thrown away my toys, even my drum and train
    I want to make some noise with real live aeroplanes
    Some day I’m going to fly, I’ll be a pilot, too
    And when I do, how would you like to be my crew?
    On The Good Ship Lollipop
    It’s a sweet trip to a candy shop
    Where bon-bons play
    On the sunny beach of Peppermint Bay
    Lemonade stands everywhere
    Crackerjack bands fill the air
    And there you are
    Happy landing on a chocolate bar
    See the sugar bowl do the tootsie roll
    With the big bad devil’s food cake
    If you eat too much, ooh-ooh
    You’ll awake with a tummy ache
    On The Good Ship Lollipop
    It’s a night trip, into bed you hop
    And dream away
    On The Good Ship Lollipop
    On The Good Ship Lollipop
    It’s a sweet trip to a candy shop
    Where bon-bons play
    On the sunny beach of Peppermint Bay
    Lemonade stands everywhere
    Crackerjack bands fill the air
    And there you are
    Happy landing on a chocolate bar
    See the sugar bowl do the tootsie roll
    With the big bad devil’s food cake
    If you eat too much, ooh-ooh
    You’ll awake with a tummy ache
    On The Good Ship Lollipop
    It’s a night trip, into bed you hop
    And dream away
    On The Good Ship Lollipop
    You’ll awake with a tummy ache

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    1. Well put @ 3:40.

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  22. The issue is not really whether + Amy is gay or effeminate or mincing or a Queen, although he is all of those I believe, but the question is about what he stands for. And increasingly he is standing for something that is more and more irrelevant to the vast majority of people. Actually, most people could not care less whether he is gay, effeminate, mincing or queeney, but they do care about hypocrisy, double standards, coverup, corruption, and a clerical and hierarchical culture that has lied to them for decades. Now that they are able to see in to this clerical and episcopal world, they increasingly discount it as not being authentic or honest, and begin to make up their own minds about things, including the big questions of life. They do not rely anymore on the silly, pious little ditties that the likes of + Amy utter, and will not listen to them anymore. So, + Amy et al are just becoming increasingly irrelevant as times passes. Eventually they will realise it. But, not at the moment, it seems. He and they still think that they can speak and they will be automatically taken notice of. Well, the truth is that they are not taken any notice of anymore. And they only have themselves to blame for this.

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  23. Pat this is bottom of the barrel stuff. You may make your insinuations but this man is a celibate priest/Bishop. Criticise him about his policies if needs be. This is not at all Christian. For the record the priesthood has been made effeminate by the very nature of the pastoral strategy of accommodation over the last 50 years. This is how these men are formed, you should know this. You are better than this Pat

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    1. I am sure the Archbishop has the means to put readers’ minds at rest. The late Pope Paul VI issued a statement to deny rumours he was… well, let’s just say, “one-of-them.”

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    2. Bottom of the barrel stuff? Of course, it is! We are talking here about institutional Roman Catholicism.

      There is nothing more basic, or ‘bottom of the barrel’.

      Capeesh?

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  24. Pat,

    Considering you have called the homily on Sunday drivel, could I ask you to write a homily? A homily for the ordination of a new bishop – just as of you were ordaining a bishop for service in your community.

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  25. 4.43: MMM – another example of your atheistic intolerance and bigotry. You certainly don’t personify anybtrue liberal traits. What pedestal do you sit in when pontificating? The one at your local pub…..All talk and opinion but nothing to show in your community by way of enriching the life of others. Hypocrite.

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  26. MournemanMichael 25th Jul 2019 — 12:46 am

    Anon@9:51: Little do you know, and you show it by such comment, made with hostility, but with neither foundation or evidence. I’m not given to self praise, but in view of your comment about not enriching others or the community I simply reply that as an unpaid volunteer for a prominent charity I have received N. Ire. and UK National awards for my voluntary work.
    So check your facts before making such remarks, and if you can’t or are too lazy to bother, then just keep quiet and you’re less likely to become a subject of ridicule. Maybe.
    MMM

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    1. Asking someone to check their facts about your identity when you use a pseudonym, the very purpose of which is to conceal who you are must rank as an early sign of incipient dementia.
      To blow your own trumpet is to make a hollow sound.

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      1. “And if you can’t…….just keep quiet” Do you always miss the obvious 9:39?

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      2. Nice one Anon11:15.
        If idiots engage in obtuse attack,
        their curveball soon comes hurtling back!

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    2. 12.46: MMM – in most communities, it’s those of a Christian faith who are more actively involved in making their communities more welcoming, caring, Christian places. It is my experience over 40 years that if the Parish Christian community didn’t organise events, focal points of gatherings and community events, little would be done beyond keeping estates tidy!! Put that in your pipe and smoke it….

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      1. MournemanMichael 25th Jul 2019 — 1:28 pm

        Thank you A@11:46. You make a good point that many religious organisations indeed do good work in the community. I certainly acknowledge and welcome that.
        I wonder if an analysis of this might compare and contrast other non religious linked community activities, perhaps in more secular societies where religious demarcation and intrusion (like Ireland) is less a factor. In England for example, many villages and other distinctive geographical locations are often a hive of community effort with no religious connotations whatsoever. Often linked to “parish “, that term refers there to a geographical entity with no contemporary religious affiliation.
        Another interesting perspective is whether religious linked good works in any way validates religious beliefs. But that’s another debate!
        Best regards.
        MMM

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