TRANSGENDER MAN CAN SUE CATHILIC HOSPITAL OVER HYSTERECTOMY.

Associated Press Sep 19, 2019

In this Aug. 30, 2019 photo, Evan Minton, who was denied a hysterectomy surgery at Mercy San Juan Medical Center related to his gender transition, adjusts his tie in Orangevale, Calif. Evans can go ahead with a discrimination lawsuit against the Catholic hospital that canceled his hysterectomy, an appeals court ruled, Tuesday, Sept. 17, 2019 (Credit: Jose Luis Villegas/The Sacramento Bee via AP.)

SAN FRANCISCO – A California transgender man can go ahead with a discrimination lawsuit against a Catholic hospital that canceled his hysterectomy, an appeals court ruled Tuesday.

The decision by the 1st District Court of Appeal in San Francisco overturns a lower court ruling dismissing the discrimination lawsuit, The Sacramento Bee reported Wednesday.

Evan Minton sued Mercy San Juan Medical Center in 2017 for canceling his scheduled hysterectomy after he mentioned to a nurse two days before surgery that he’s transgender.

Hospital operator Dignity Health quickly helped transfer the surgery to a non-Catholic facility. Presiding Judge Stuart Pollak wrote that didn’t negate Minton’s complaint because Dignity offered the alternative only after pressure from his advocates.

California civil rights law says businesses must offer full and equal access to residents.

Dignity Health, which is among the largest health systems in the country, said in a statement Wednesday that it welcomes everyone but that its Catholic hospitals “do not perform sterilizing procedures” unless there is a serious threat to the patient’s life or health.

In an earlier statement to the newspaper, the largest hospital provider in California said its Catholic facilities “do not provide elective sterilizations.”

Dr. Lindsey Dawson, Minton’s surgeon, has said she routinely performs hysterectomies at Mercy San Juan.

Minton was diagnosed with gender dysphoria, a medical condition where a person experiences deep discomfort with the gender assigned them at birth, according to the American Psychiatric Association.

PAT SAYS

Here we have another sad case of the RC institution discriminating against a young vulnerable man who has already suffered much.

He is not seeking a hysterectomy for moral/immoral reasons.

The hysterectomy is recommended by medical professionals for medical reasons.

It is part of his “healing” – and it is 100 % legal.

The RCC and its adherents are entitled to believe what they want and impose medieval medical and social mores on their volunteers.

But such teachings have no place in modern medicine and they should never use tax payers money to impose those teachings and practices on society.

Gradually former Catholic societies are freeing themselves from their Roman masters.

I’m glad I’m living to see Rome chalenged so universally.

And I hope Evan Minton takes a fortune off them.

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58 thoughts on “TRANSGENDER MAN CAN SUE CATHILIC HOSPITAL OVER HYSTERECTOMY.

  1. Your “Pat says” crap commentary is typical of you. You learn nothing Buckley. Anything that gives you a chance to speak your twisted hatred against the Church you take with delight..Your response is ignorant. I’m not surprised at your attitude. You have created a false theology with a complete disregard for God. You’d say yes to any medical procedure you seem inconsistent with your makey up ethics. Even Minton should have been truthful in the first place and I’m sure his/her doctor would have advised that the hospital had a Catholic ethos…wonder was he/she simply wanting to sue!!! Hope he/she gets nothing. The a Catholic religious Sisters in the USA can be proud of the healthcare services they provide. The best. I’ve been there and witnessed at first hand the excellence, not just of the Catholic hospitals but of other denominations too. We in Ireland coukd learn much from their expertise and superb quality of services, similar to the sterling service given by religious orders to Irish hospitals. So, Pat, have a go all you like. Your theology and ethics are questionable.

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  2. Pat, did you see the front page story on the Irish News the other day claiming that Fr Finnegan, the disgraced ex-president of St Colman’s College, Newry, was a British informer who broke the seal of the confessional?

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  3. Pat, your opinion is flawed. The Catholic hospital has an ethos which this individual’s doctor specialist would have been aware of. In this area of gender choice and experimentation hospitals have moral and ethical responsibilities which are clear enshrined in their ethos statements. Your wish that this individual gets a firtune is ignorant. Were this to be a Methodist hospital, of which there are many in the USA, you’d not have made so prejudiced, bivoted and ignorant a comment. After being quietened yesterday by the loss of Magna, your vicious nastiness against the Catholic Church is still very hateful. You never needed Magna’s poison. You have barrel fulls.

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    1. I am afraid Magna was right, Pat – the Cathbots merely want rid of anyone who doesn’t say they’re wonderful. You have let them win a battle here, and believe me they are in for the war. They want you shut down permanently. Please heed the warning – you are too kind to them, to the extent of offering them hospitality on your blog to abuse you.
      They will carry on until you are prevented from publishing and the oratory is closed.
      It is time to be wily, not kind.

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      1. The Oratory started in 1986 – 33 years ago. It will not shut down.
        This blog will also stay up.

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      2. 9.03: An apocalyptic comment….such nonsense. Pat is quite capable of fighting his corner. He doesn’t need any wilyness: he just needs a little more discernment around some commentarors. Otherwise I think he is reasonable. He tells it like it is, not always comfortable, sometimes unfair but at least we can argue. He is well able for his enemies. The key – just keep going…..self belief.

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  4. Fly on Th Wall 20th Sep 2019 — 8:28 am

    There’s what I never thought of hi. If someone is going female to male how do they manage the “internal “ bits hi

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    1. They will be ok Seán.

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  5. Cesspit cesspit cesspit

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    1. Hi magna

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      1. HI Brendan how are you girls?

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  6. If the person involved wants a hysterectomy they are proclaiming themselves to be female.

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    1. Surely if they want rid of a womb it says tgey want to be a man?

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  7. Bishop Pat, wanting to be the opposite sex doesn’t make you the opposite sex. Nor does mutilating the body. By acknowledging you have female organs you acknowledge you are of the female sex.

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    1. Gender Dysphoria is an internationally recognised medical condition.
      People are born into the wrong gender body.
      People sometimes are born with the genitals of both sexes.
      Lets not judge people by outdated standards.

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  8. The Dowager Countess 20th Sep 2019 — 11:28 am

    what a world we live in

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    1. MournemanMichael 20th Sep 2019 — 2:08 pm

      “The world’s in a state of chassis.” Playboy of the Western World’s final comment on a reality: change is in the nature of everything.
      Those of us who acknowledge the evolution of our world over countless millennia will recognise that nothing is static; all things change, often so slowly and imperceptibly that humankind’s short lifespan often leads to us believing that our personal perception has been a static enduring fixed reality.
      The genome, chromosomes,deoxyribonucleic acids, and all those wonderful little engines of our creation and preservation are subject to change. If our understanding of our world and its inhabitants is ring fenced by a rigidity typical of Thomistic philosophy/theology, our emotional and psychological inclination for comfortable reinforcement of existing perceptions can restrict our openness to recognising differences and change as an inescapable reality.
      Uncomfortable for some, but
      Hey Ho! Isn’t it great not knowing what’s round the next corner?
      MMM

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      1. MMM at 2.08: A good piece of information worth considering. Change in everything seems an unfolding reality, change in our thinking, our sering, our understanding thriugh science, psychology, theology and philosophy. It is inevitable that one day scientists, medically and otherwise would see the human psyche in a million different ways and possibilities. I fear that we are playing god too much sometimes with the potential possibilities of what we can “recreate” out of what is already given and make something completely different that the original reality. The sexual/gender experimentation with the human person deserves absolute regorous scrutiny. I have watched prigrammes on gender challenges which featured children aged 3, 4, 5 , and 6 year olds and young teenagers atrending classes with gender transitiining specialists. It raised many moral andvethical questions which weren’t addressed. I was very disturbed watching this programme about such young children almost being brainwashed (by the parent’s chouce) to be something g other than who or what they were born as! We need to be very watchful and vigilant around experimenting with human nature. Yes, I concur, it’s great sometimes not knowing what’s around the next corner…once it’s not Magna!!!

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      2. “The world is in a state of chassis” comes from O’Casey not Synge.

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      3. MournemanMichael 21st Sep 2019 — 10:06 am

        Absolutely correct @3:39! Juno and the Paycock. Maybe I was as confused as Captain Jack when I referred to The Playboy. Either that or unlike Jack, my “penny” (or sixpence) hadn’t dropped as well.
        MMM

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  9. It’s great, isn’t it, Countess.

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  10. Dear Bishop Pat, Gender Dysphoria is a mental condition, not a physical one. The disposition of chromosomes is not an outdated standard; it is a physical fact. Very occasionally people are born with the genitals of both sexes. That is a physical condition. It is not Gender Dysphoria. Dr. Michelle Cretella, President of the American College of Pediatricians, in an interview she gave to TFP Student Action in 2017, said that it is not true that people can be born into the wrong body. She says studies on twins, who actually have the same body, have shown this. She points out that there is a mental disorder in which people believe themselves to be amputees, and demand that their limbs be cut off. We do not allow this to happen. She says that we should not allow impressionable children to be convinced that mutilating their bodies will change their sex. In her experience, counselling and encouragement very often help such children to come to terms with their body. What adults do is up to themselves, but surely the presence among of masculine women and feminine men only adds to the joy of living among human beings. They don’t need to mutilate themselves.

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    1. FROM NHS SITE

      Gender dysphoria is a condition where a person experiences discomfort or distress because there’s a mismatch between their biological sex and gender identity. It’s sometimes known as gender incongruence.

      Biological sex is assigned at birth, depending on the appearance of the genitals. Gender identity is the gender that a person “identifies” with or feels themselves to be.

      While biological sex and gender identity are the same for most people, this isn’t the case for everyone. For example, some people may have the anatomy of a man, but identify themselves as a woman, while others may not feel they’re definitively either male or female.

      This mismatch between sex and gender identity can lead to distressing and uncomfortable feelings that are called gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is a recognised medical condition, for which treatment is sometimes appropriate. It’s not a mental illness.

      Some people with gender dysphoria have a strong and persistent desire to live according to their gender identity, rather than their biological sex. These people are sometimes called transsexual or trans people. Some trans people have treatment to make their physical appearance more consistent with their gender identity.

      Signs of gender dysphoria
      The first signs of gender dysphoria can appear at a very young age. For example, a child may refuse to wear typical boys’ or girls’ clothes, or dislike taking part in typical boys’ or girls’ games and activities.

      In most cases, this type of behaviour is just part of growing up and will pass in time, but for those with gender dysphoria it continues through childhood and into adulthood.

      Adults with gender dysphoria can feel trapped inside a body that doesn’t match their gender identity.

      They may feel so unhappy about conforming to societal expectations that they live according to their anatomical sex, rather than the gender they feel themselves to be.

      They may also have a strong desire to change or get rid of physical signs of their biological sex, such as facial hair or breasts.

      Read more about the symptoms of gender dysphoria.

      Getting help
      See your GP if you think you or your child may have gender dysphoria.

      If necessary, they can refer you to a specialist Gender Identity Clinic (GIC). Staff at these clinics can carry out a personalised assessment and provide any support you need.

      Assessment
      A diagnosis of gender dysphoria can usually be made after an in-depth assessment carried out by two or more specialists.

      This may require several sessions, carried out a few months apart, and may involve discussions with people you are close to, such as members of your family or your partner.

      The assessment will determine whether you have gender dysphoria and what your needs are, which could include:

      whether there’s a clear mismatch between your biological sex and gender identity
      whether you have a strong desire to change your physical characteristics as a result of any mismatch
      how you’re coping with any difficulties of a possible mismatch
      how your feelings and behaviours have developed over time
      what support you have, such as friends and family
      The assessment may also involve a more general assessment of your physical and psychological health.

      Treatment for gender dysphoria
      If the results of an assessment suggest that you or your child have gender dysphoria, staff at the GIC will work with you to come up with an individual treatment plan. This will include any psychological support you may need.

      Treatment for gender dysphoria aims to help reduce or remove the distressing feelings of a mismatch between biological sex and gender identity.

      This can mean different things for different people. For some people, it can mean dressing and living as their preferred gender.

      For others, it can mean taking hormones or also having surgery to change their physical appearance.

      Many trans people have treatment to change their body permanently, so they’re more consistent with their gender identity, and the vast majority are satisfied with the eventual results.

      Read more about treating gender dysphoria.

      What causes gender dysphoria?
      Gender development is complex and there are many possible variations that cause a mismatch between a person’s biological sex and their gender identity, making the exact cause of gender dysphoria unclear.

      Occasionally, the hormones that trigger the development of biological sex may not work properly on the brain, reproductive organs and genitals, causing differences between them. This may be caused by:

      additional hormones in the mother’s system – possibly as a result of taking medication
      the foetus’ insensitivity to the hormones, known as androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS) – when this happens, gender dysphoria may be caused by hormones not working properly in the womb
      Gender dysphoria may also be the result of other rare conditions, such as:

      congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) – where a high level of male hormones are produced in a female foetus. This causes the genitals to become more male in appearance and, in some cases, the baby may be thought to be biologically male when she is born.
      intersex conditions – which cause babies to be born with the genitalia of both sexes (or ambiguous genitalia). Parents are recommended to wait until the child can choose their own gender identity before any surgery is carried out.
      Read more about disorders of sex development.

      How common is gender dysphoria?
      It’s not known exactly how many people experience gender dysphoria, because many people with the condition never seek help.

      A survey of 10,000 people undertaken in 2012 by the Equality and Human Rights Commission found that 1% of the population surveyed was gender variant, to some extent.

      While gender dysphoria appears to be rare, the number of people being diagnosed with the condition is increasing, due to growing public awareness.

      However, many people with gender dysphoria still face prejudice and misunderstanding.

      Gender terminology
      Gender dysphoria is a complex condition that can be difficult to understand. Therefore, it helps to distinguish between the meanings of different gender-related terms:

      gender dysphoria – discomfort or distress caused by a mismatch between a person’s gender identity and their biological sex assigned at birth
      transsexualism – the desire to live and be accepted as a member of the opposite sex, usually accompanied by the wish to have treatment to make their physical appearance more consistent with their gender identity
      transvestism – where a person occasionally wears clothes typically associated with the opposite gender (cross-dressing) for a variety of reasons
      genderqueer – an umbrella term used to describe gender identities other than man and woman – for example, those who are both man and woman, or neither man nor woman, or moving between genders
      Gender dysphoria isn’t the same as transvestism or cross-dressing and isn’t related to sexual orientation. People with the condition may identify as straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual or asexual, and this may change with treatment.

      Being a trans man: Jay’s story
      Jay describes his transition from female to male. He talks about the expert help he received, his relationship with Lani and how he feels now.

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      1. MournemanMichael 20th Sep 2019 — 2:17 pm

        Thanks for that info Pat. Reading it helps understanding it’s a much more complex issue than some might make it out to be.
        MMM

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  11. That still doesn’t justify mutilation.

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    1. Everyday surgeons all over the globe “mutilate” thousands of bodies with the intention of healing.
      You are so narrowminded you could look through a keyhole with both eyes at once 😊

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      1. MournemanMichael 20th Sep 2019 — 1:57 pm

        🤣😂😃
        Love the expression.
        Something connected to ‘keyhole surgery?’
        MMM

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      2. 2.40: Mutilation is mutilation….There are tribes in Africa that mutilate as part of rituals of growing up, mutilation that have been condemned as barbaric cruelty. Medical Mutilation done diberately by medics is morally questiinable. What is wring that we can’t just accept ourvtrye God given.nature. This wirld has an obsesdion with “me, me, me”: it seeks a perfectionism of some kind, a beauty, a particular kind of body and if we don’t fit in we have choices to have parts of our bodies mutilated for the so called “perfect body”. The obsession with the ‘body beautiful philosophy is obscene. The experimentation around gender equality and challenges is also an obsession and is equal obscene. It is also a powerful financial industry.

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  12. It’s farcical and a total laugh that Buckley mollycoddles MMM now after dumping Magna. He changes with the wind and his theology and morals changes with the wind also. One word explains about Buckley – pathetic. How sad!!

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    1. MournemanMichael 20th Sep 2019 — 3:38 pm

      Kindly explain how you arrived at this conclusion @2:24. I don’t see evidence nor do I ‘feel ‘ mollycoddled. So maybe I’m missing something on which a more perceptive and hopefully more articulate individual, perhaps like yourself, can provide guidance on.
      MMM

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    2. The death of Bishop Seamus Hegarty, former +Raphoe then +Derry has just been announced. RIP.

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      1. Bishop Hegarty was rough and ready but always extremely curtious to me when we met or communicated.

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  13. Pat, here’s a video showing Clonliffe in the good old days when it was full of seminarians and the Vatican II Springtime/New Pentecost hadn’t closed it yet.

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  14. Pat, your false crocodile tears in relation to Hegarty highlight how shallow you are. You vilified him along with fellow bishops over the years, your false claim that he showing you courtesy is your own words as he had no time for you. Stop hijacking his death for your own twisted means. Let’s face facts.

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    1. I never claimed he liked me. I simply said he was courteous to me and always gave me my title.

      I think he made a balls of many situations in Raphoe and Derry.

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      1. I never claimed in my post that he did/didn’t like you. I simply said he had no time for you, You trash these men in life and then when they die you suddenly say they had time for you. Total delusional nonsense.

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      2. I have no time for most RC bishops. I think many of them will have a lot to answer for before the Lord.

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      3. 4.50: Pat, whether alive or dead you show scant regard for any cleric who disagrees with You. Shame in you for your hypocrisy and your double standards. God grant Bishop Hegarty his love and mercy. Cop on to yourself, Pat. You are making yourself look ridiculous with each day, scraping around barrels and dumps for your living. Go and do works of mercy not the bullying of others on your blog…

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      4. I do works of mercy everyday – like today – helping a young woman be healed from the verbal abuse her PP dished out to her yesterday.

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      5. He always gave you your “title”? At heart, King Buck, you’re just like the worst of them. A total narcissist also to boot.

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      6. I’d say Hegarty gave you your “title” alright when you were out of earshot 🙂

        Hegarty, like yourself, had a colossal regard for himself.

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  15. The lunatics are taking over the asylum.

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  16. To date I have accompanied three people through gender change.
    All of them suffered greatly as children, teenagers and young adults.
    They were absolutely miserable within. The doctors made them progress very slowly and carefully.
    When they completed their journies they were all happier and more integrated people. Their transition was a total success.
    I believe that God gave them the opportunity to do this and gave the medics the skill to help them.

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  17. Bp Pat, there is a new two-part programme on tonight on BB2 called “Inside the Vatican” at 9 pm.

    Filmed over an historic year inside the Vatican, this episode follows the build up to the most sacred celebration in the Church calendar, Easter – when Pope Francis takes centre stage in the world’s biggest theatre of faith.
    No film crew has ever had such access to the inner workings of the Vatican. From Pope Francis himself to his head of security, the nuns who cater for the homeless, the choristers of the Sistine Chapel, the papal gardener, the chief of the diplomatic corps and many others, we get a unique and exclusive insight into the lives of those who live and work in this independent city state.
    Every Wednesday, Pope Francis invites pilgrims to meet him at his general audience. Marking his fifth year in office as the Vatican’s first Latin American pontiff, Pope Francis believes the Church should be close to the people. For centuries, popes have lived in the Apostolic Palace, but Pope Francis has moved to a modest apartment in the Casa Santa Marta.
    Every January, diplomats from all nations gather in the Sistine Chapel for the Pope’s annual State of the World Address. The Vatican is one of the oldest diplomatic institutions in the world, and the head of their equivalent of the Foreign Office is Archbishop Paul Gallagher, originally from Liverpool.
    At the heart of the Vatican is St Peter’s Basilica. As Easter draws near, the Sanpietrini – skilled craftsmen responsible for the upkeep of St Peter’s – are hard at work. For them, this is not a routine job but a tradition that has been passed down from the original craftsmen who built St Peter’s, the most important Church in the Catholic world. The Vatican gardeners also have a key role to play, preparing the olive branches to decorate St Peter’s Square and palm leaves to adorn the columns of the basilica.
    Meanwhile, the Vatican Police Force makes stringent security checks in anticipation of the arrival of tens of thousands of pilgrims.
    After the festivities of Palm Sunday, the early part of the Easter week is given over to quiet contemplation inside the Vatican. This is when Pope Francis follows a very personal Easter ritual: he visits inmates of the Regina Coeli prison to wash their feet. This Easter one of the chosen twelve is a Muslim prisoner, Ali.

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    1. I wonder if many at Maynooth will be watching it tonight, Bp Pat? Or will they just stick with the gay adult channel on the Sky 953 as per usual.

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      1. 7.41: You brainless twit! Guess you like fantasizing – grow up, you moronic plonker. If you are an ex seminarian, get a life. Whoever you are, that comment is from someone with his head up his a**e. Grow up.

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      2. They will be doing what gay ghosts do. They will be putting the willies up each other 😊

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      3. PS I didnt know about 953 😊

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    2. Archbishop Paul Gallagher is so like the missing former “Dean” of Belfast, it’s uncanny. That’s just the sort of life the poor “Dean” would have loved too!

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      1. The Dean would have been ecstatic to have Archbishop Gallagher’s job and apartment.

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  18. Pat, I am at a loss as to why any Bishop or Archbishop would entertain you since you vilify most of them, you judge them mercilessly, against your own standards, which is no benchmark and you name call, sneer at and behave so un-CHRIST-LIKE towards them. Look at yourself Pat. Look.

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  19. 6.00: Pat the great! No time for most Irish bishops! Lest your humility deludes you any further, the feeling is mutual. Why should any Bishop fear you, you nasty, vindictive man? Pat, you’re not so relevant in the scheme of things. In your own small world, you are important and undoubtedly you do good for many, but expressing your contempt and disdain for the bishops is not an heroic or evangelical virtue!!

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    1. Their dislike of me confirms my vocation of keeping their feet to the fire 😊

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  20. Gweedore Gerry 20th Sep 2019 — 8:26 pm

    Hegarty. One of the great covered uppers. One the day that the pervert teacher McGinley was jailed for a host of serious sexual offences against pupils ( some of whom has ended their own lives) Hegarty rather than visit the homes of the families of the abused decided instead to visit McGinley’s family, one of West Donegals wealthiest families.

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  21. Pat at 2:40, don’t insult me. It lowers the tone of the discussion.

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  22. Also Hegarty feigned dementia so that he could cover up. Never saw him do confirmations and I’m a fair age.
    He was arrogant, deceitful …who cares whether he had time for Pat…Pat is above all that shit.

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    1. Thanks Pat for replying to a criticism about yourself. We are not stupid about how you run your blog.

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