BELFAST PRIEST WANTS PRO CHOICE POLITICIANS REFUSED COMMUNION.

By Allan Preston Belfast Telegraph.

A Belfast priest has said politicians who supported changes to abortion laws “are damning their souls” and should be refused Holy Communion.

Fr Patrick McCafferty, from the Corpus Christi Parish, made the comments in an interview with the Andersonstown News after terminations and same-sex marriage became legal.

Speaking to this newspaper, the priest said it was “a complete and utter contradiction” to promote abortion and still consider oneself a practising Catholic.

However, pro-life SDLP MLA Dolores Kelly branded the comments “regrettable” and said that only the Vatican could make such an order.

She also hit out at claims that her party had the power to stop changes to abortion laws at a short-lived sitting of the Assembly on Monday.

Fr McCafferty said it was “impossible” to take Holy Communion while supporting abortion.

“There is no way in which that can be justified or accepted,” he added.

“There’s such a thing as automatic excommunication.

“Promoting abortion is just totally outside the faith.

“You cannot consider yourself a Catholic in good standing.

“You should have the honesty and integrity to not present yourself for Holy Communion.”

Ms Kelly said Fr McCafferty’s comments were made after “misinformation” about the SDLP’s power to stop the changes to abortion law.

Writing in the News Letter, DUP MLA Carla Lockhart said: “The pro-life electorate will not forget SDLP weakness.

“They had the power to support the election of a Speaker but walked out of the chamber.”

Ms Kelly said only a reformed Executive, including the DUP and Sinn Fein, would have had the power to repeal the law.

“(The accusations) are manipulating the strongly held views and emotions on both sides of the argument,” she added.

“Many people who are pro-life and practising Catholics will also be very alarmed and angry about Fr McCafferty’s comments.

PAT SAYS

Father McCafferty’s comments have to be viewed in the context of his sexual abuse by another Down & Connor priest Father James Donaghy.

That abuse had profound effects on his mental health and indeed his whole life.

Victims use various mechanisms to cope with their suffering.

Father McCafferty has coped with his sufferings by adopting a very right wing and inflexible Roman Catholic position on absolutely everything.

Morality is very rarely black and white. It is all about negotiating the challenging grey areas of life.

If I were a married man I would not want my my wife having an abortion except for the most serious of reasons.

And if we were faced with an unbearable choice – like choosing between my wife’s life or the life of the unborn baby I would choose my wife.

In doing so I would not be choosing any “GOOD”. Rather, I would be choosing, in my conscience, THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS.

And I believe that God would understand that and would not want some ontological changed cleric to refuse me Holy Communion.

And if he tried that, I would reach into the ciborium and communicate myself!

101 thoughts on “BELFAST PRIEST WANTS PRO CHOICE POLITICIANS REFUSED COMMUNION.

  1. REPUBLISHED TO ALLOW COMMENTS.

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  2. Automatic excommunication includes what?

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    1. Refusal of Sacraments.

      There are two types of excommunicated people:

      1. TOLERATI – Catholics can socialise and talk to these.

      2. VITANDI – Catholics are to totally shun these ones.

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      1. Bishop Pat is showing his age;-)
        These categories haven’t been in force since the 1917 code. The current code of canon law only recognises automatic excommunication which is very hard to incur and imposed excommunication which normally comes from a tribunal.

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    2. 6:35am…
      Prelates and priests…? But IICSA will ensure Canon law is complied with… in the UK, anyhow…
      I always am rather purplexed when a rc priest preaches about doing the right thing and following one’s conscience. Mind boggling in fact

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    3. Automatic excommunication!…..My arse!
      I’m still in communication with my ex.
      But don’t tell barbara or i’m in hot water!

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  3. Fr McCafferty suffered grievously at the hands of the rc church. However he is act ting like judge jury and executioner.

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  4. Fr. McCafferty is entitled to hold his views re: abortion and refusal to give pro-choice abortionists Holy Communion. It is rather arrigant and very inadviseable to sugfest that he holds these views arusing out of his experience of sexual abuse, very ignorant to intimate that he is “unwell” psychologically as a result and that his views are influenced by this. Pat, that is a most unkind, unhelpful and incompassionate interpretation. I admire the moral courage of Fr. McCafferty. There is too much equivocation about the horror of abortion. Fr. McCafferty has been a great advocate on behalf of victims and survivors and has expressed his disgust and anger at the church leadership. To try to undermine any opinion he has on moral issues is ignorant of you.

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    1. He hasn’t been very consistent in voicing his disgust and anger at the Church leadership. He vehemently was against meeting Pope Francis in Dublin and spoke out in public that he would never agree to meeting him in Ireland. Next thing you know McCafferty appears on TV after having met the Pope and speaking positively about it. Hypocrites like that make me puke, say one thing and do another.

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      1. I’m not sure there’s a great deal of intellectual rigour or consistency going on in Fr McCafferty’s mind, and he just blows hot and cold depending on how he is feeling on any given day. I don’t sense intellectual rigour in most of our clergy. No wonder considering the lamentable training and education they have received in our questionable seminaries. Clergy seem largely to rely on the instant wisdom bestowed – allegedly – at ordination. And the awe in which they are supposed to be held by we lesser morals because of the ontological change that has taken place in them because of ordination. So, people like Fr McCafferty should steer clear of these kinds of pronouncements. He will only end up looking silly.

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  5. Father McCafferty is make an absolute tit and a fool of himself by loud hailing his ill considered and ill advised view of a really rather complex moral and societal issue. So often those clergy who are not the brightest tend to black and white pronunciations on a whole range of issues, taking all sorts of Church teaching, tradition, and scripture out of context. I would suggest that he concentrates of keeping quiet and leaving more sane and considered voices to engage in this debate, perhaps spending time on his own mental health, and perhaps looking after his physical health by losing a lot of the extra lard he is evidently carrying.

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    1. Also, there could be women having great pain and issues coping with haveng aborted in the past. They could now be on a renewed journey of understanding and that priest with his loud mouth could cause a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering.
      And yes, there are grey areas, like Pat said, which could include life or death situation or where somebody might have been raped — both morally and ethically it is a very sensitive area.
      And if he is not coping well with his mental struggles should he not leave ministry, for a while, and given the right treatment and support?
      Mind you, they would just make him a Rector and send him to Spain or somewhere where he could cause even more damage….

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    2. 9.22: Do you believe that making judgments about a person’s physical appearance is helpful, especially when that person has experienced sexual abuse? Abuse leaves life long scars and it is not helpful to be so ignorant in your judgment. The references to Fr. McCafferty’s mental and physical well being are unfortunate as they will further add to his unwellness. He is entitled to his views, irrespective of his experience of sexual abuse. Incidentally, if a known rapist or a murderer presented for holy communion, what should be our response? If a known abortionist likewise turned up, what should be our response? Moral issues that require clear answers….there should be no obfuscation of our duty to protect the unborn child or to protect vulnerable people from rapists or criminals or murderers.

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  6. Surely the administration of holy communion is just that. I.e a person who administers the communion. The rest is between God and the individual receiving the communion. It is for God to judge the recipient not man. Fr mccafferty is,I believe, a decent man but he cannot and should not try to take the place of God by passing judgement on anyone. “Judge not that te be not judged” We are all sinners. None of us is perfect. Our relationship should be between God and ourselves not between God and a representative of an oppressive and corrupt church. Fr McCafferty would do well to remember “let him who is without sin cast the first stone”

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    1. Your comment contains a lot of jidging, lol

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  7. I am not a supporter of abortion and consider it a moral negative in every case. However, I live in a country where access to abortion is a legal right, and whilst I will express the opinion that I do not support it and will support legal and parliamentary attempts to circumscribe it as much as possible, I recognise that not everybody thinks like me and I have to respect their desire to have access to abortion. There are many aspects of life that I enjoy because of tolerance and the law in my country, and I am grateful for that. So, no matter what my personal views on abortion are, I have to allow others to have access to what the law allows. That’s democracy. Not perfect. But, it is the way it works, and if you want the benefits of it, you have to accept that on occasion you have to accept the compromises too. That being said, I feel very uneasy about the ending of life in the womb. I live equidistant between a fertility clinic, where people are desperately trying to get pregnant, and an abortion clinic where people are disposing of their babies, at various stages of gestation, for all sorts of reasons. It baffles me, bemuses me, and makes me considerably upset. But, I have to live with it, in the society in which I live. Fact of life.

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    1. Yes dear, live with it. As you correctly say, it’s democracy.

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      1. Democracy is probably the best we have.

        But how imperfect it is 😥

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      2. And the whole point of democracy is that it takes account of as many views as possible, and finds a common ground that the majority can live with. Well, in theory, anyhow ! So, it is where we are, and it is probably the best at the moment that we can devise. Can you imagine what it would be like under a Catholic Church theocracy – well, we have been there, and it wasn’t particularly edifying, and allowed all sorts of other moral evils to take place in the dark corners, like the clergy abuse scandal. The McCafferty’s of this world were not saying much about that when it was happening, were they ? No, they were just moving them on, hearing their confession, and thought that prayer and penance would solve the problem ! And look where that got us ! And, imagine what it would be like under an Islamic theocracy ? So, I’m happy to stick with and defend our secular democracy, which isn’t perfect, but does the job for most of us most of the time. I would suggest that Fr McCafferty, if he does need to sound off about something, spends his time talking about what his brother clergy have inflicted on him and on other innocents. Leave the nuanced discussion about things like abortion and other societal issues to those who are able to deal with moral and practical ambiguity. Sounding off self-righteously and loudly isn’t helpful to anybody.

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      3. Millions voted for Hitler.

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  8. I have always opposed abortion. I should never, at least hypothetically, countenance it under any circumstance (though what I should actually do under the severe emotional turmoil of having to choose between the lives of a pregnant spouse and our unborn child, I do not know).
    But even if, in this circumstance, my moral principle proved weaker, I should never call abortion anything other than what it objectively is: the intentional, direct, and deliberate killing of innocent human life, in a most barbarous way.
    Surely, there is consequence for this at some point? Of mind, body, and soul?
    Whatever the case may be, I should never, were I a priest or Eucharistic minister, refuse communion to someone known to be pro-choice, or even pro-abortion. It is wrong to politicise the Eucharist, and Fr McCafferty, while entitled to his point of view, is not entiled (and has no authority) to make his opinion a canon of the Church.
    It is forgotten too often that politicians who were at least pro-choice were given communion by Pope JP II at the Vatican: Rome’s mayor, Francesco Rutilli in 2001, and Prime MinisterTony Blair in 2003.

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    1. Good post, MC.
      I’m with on this one.👍

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    2. Ah but Fr McCafferty thinks he has priestly instant wisdom and ontological change courtesy of the grace of ordination. Rather than realising he’s just a thick twat who doesn’t even understand Church teaching.

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  9. Any sinn fein politician who supports abortion should get a taste of sinn fein/ira owm medicine.

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  10. Very good indeed to see thoughtful and balanced comments today on a highly divisive issue. The fact is that there is as much pluralism among Catholics re this issue as within the wider population, and different positions are held with good faith. Neither abortion nor marriage equality can be considered a line of demarcation. The Church’s record on respect for life is a patchy to say the least. The Papal Legate during the massacre of 20,000 Albigensian heretics in 1209 is said to have instructed soldiers not to discriminate between “good” and “bad” Catholics as the Lord would recognize his own. Whether he did actually utter these words, the effect was the same as many “innocent” people including babies were slain over a question concerning the inviolability of the Catholic faith. Sadly this is not just history as there is the far more recent example of Father Matthew Jolley, who trumpeted his unswerving opposition to abortion on his still available Twitter account while viewing abhorrent images of child abuse – if that indeed is what his counsel meant by “crossing the line” – and planning an attack on an innocent two year old.

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  11. Pat, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. What a dirty, sordid lot!

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    1. 2:06
      ‘…faceless keyboard worriers…’. Freudian slip.
      (Don’t carry the world on your shoulders.)

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    2. 1:51pm.
      #MeToo/Irish Seminarian.
      #MeToo/IrishChurchAbuseSurvivor.

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  12. Fr McCafferty has thousands of people on his side and who think the world of him. He is 100% correct. Politicians who support abortion are making an absolutely mockery of communion by going to it. Also Buckley is doing here again today what he does best every day.

    Buckley and his faceless keyboard worriers don’t give a damn about anyone mental or physical health.

    What do you do? You talk about Fr as a victim of abuse? His story is very well known. He told it remarkable well on Ewtn after he met the pope. It was an amazing story. He told us that he told the pope that he shouldn’t have come because of McCarrick and so on. He was asked to meet the pope as group of survivors and he was perfect entitled to. He is no hypocrite for he consistently spoke out for years and years about abuse by priests and the horrific abuse that is abortion. He is perfectly entitled to his views without the vicious savages posting anonymously here who haven’t a ml of his bravery. Buckley attempt to “gaslight” Fr mccafferty is despicable.

    Your all saying he’s “entitled to his view” but he’s not though is he? Not with the wolf pack here led by Pat Bickley.

    “Do not cast your pearls before swine not give unto dogs what is holy” (Jesus Christ).

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    1. Can you please show me where McCafferty is quoted telling Pope Francis that he shouldn’t have come to Dublin because of McCarrick? You can’t because that conversation didn’t take place. If your only source is EWTN then that tells us all we need to know. Are you sure your name isn’t Bernie by any chance? It just strikes me that you sound like a misinformed loudmouth fruitcake Bernie that I Know.

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      1. @2:33pm, no Claire or Colum, or one of your cronies, I’m not Bernie but we all know the Bernie you mean.
        The conversation DID take place.
        I don’t know Fr personally but I knew for a fact what I had read in black and white! And it wasn’t from EWTN but the “paper of record”:
        “Fr McCafferty was the penultimate speaker. He reminded the pope that he had told his congregation in Belfast just a few weeks previously that he should not come to Ireland. Instead he should stay in Rome and deal with the abuse scandals.
        “He smiled at that. It lightened the atmosphere a bit,” Fr McCafferty said. Otherwise, he said the meeting was “highly stressful and intense. It was no cakewalk”.
        Fr McCafferty spoke briefly and his message was to the point. He told the pope: “Those at the highest level of the Church who have covered up and dealt incompetently with these allegations of abuse should face just penalties. No one should be exempted from the dismissal from the clerical state which is the ultimate penalty” (Irish Times, Saturday September 1st, 2018).

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    2. 2.06
      Yes, Fr McCafferty is indeed entitled to his point of view (and he is entitled, as well, to have it heard respectfully), but not necessarily with acceptance.
      You probably don’t realise it, but the nature and tone of your post suggests that alternative opinions deserve no respect at all.
      It is this aggressiveness, on either side of the debate, and the mutual attempt to define the agenda that reduces most discussion of abortion to a polemic, resulting in extremely heated rancour, moral denunciation and, ultimately, yet another wasted and fruitless intellectual Groundhog Day.

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      1. Well said Magna. Mind you your own aggressiveness at times can lead to similar Groundhog days. Just sayin like 😉

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    3. Mea culpa!

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    4. 2:06
      Watch the Finne documentary on TG4. Tell us if the priests or bishops of Raphoe gave a damn about the physical or mental health of victims/survivors or their families. Several of the victims committed suicide.

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    5. McCafferty needs to shut up and say his prayers. He’s a publicity seeker with a cervello di gallina. Not a good combination. Huffing and puffing and speaking out on stuff he doesn’t really know anything about. He just need to get back to saying Mass, organising rosary novenas, and all the other good stuff he should be doing as a parish priest. Leave the big issues to the boys with brains.

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      1. HaHaHa. 5:27pm Lol. 😂
        ‘Leave the big issues to the boys with brains.’😂
        Who might they be in ireland, the boys with brains?
        Or, who might they be in the Vatican, the boys with brains?

        Oh, sexual abuse of children and abuse of vulnerable people, it’s all so,so,emotional, unbalanced, lacking objectivity! Guess what!

        What do readers and posters to this blog think motivated, the boys with brains in the Vatican,
        to criminally cover up the rape of children and abuse of vulnerable people, for generations?

        Guess!

        Emotions!!! FEAR, to say the very least.
        Now, they are experiencing, Holy Terror.
        So, don’t be depending on the boys with brains, to sort out the big issues.😂
        ( Just sayin, like)😳

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    6. 2:06
      Mockery! Look at the hypocrisy and mockery by the hierarchy of the Gospel imperative of the Lord, not to harm children.Thousands of more people might support Rcc position on abortion had the hierarchy not systemically covered up child sexual abuse and abuse of adults, very serious criminal harm, on living human beings! And if you think the issues are mutually exclusive, they are not. Ordinary people don’t have the time or luxury to study moral theology. They will listen to sound bites and go with their guts. The clergy and hierarchy are sidelined through their own fault. By the way, shooting yourself in the foot, self inflected wounding, doesn’t qualify a person as being a wounded healer. It qualifies a person as being a nitwit! Regardless. Credibility, shot!

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  13. Fly On Th Wall 3rd Nov 2019 — 2:13 pm

    Scusi momento hi. Using the sacraments as a political weapon is big stronzo hi. This kind of control belongs in the past hi so fekoffa hi

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    1. Ciao hi fly @ 2:13.
      Beggora fly a stronzo and big one at that si.
      Don’t fly off the handle on us.
      Arrivederci fly hi.

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  14. Excellent posts today Magna. I too am fundamentally against the destruction of any unborn. However, I too, simply do not know what I would say or do faced with the situation you outline. Fr McCafferty’s views deserve to be respected but he cannot step into God’s shoes

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    1. Fr McCafferty is Gods personal rep in Ballymurphy.

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  15. Looks like comfort eating may have also helped him cope.

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    1. Not the only one is he? What was the latest on Monty back in Northalt?

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      1. Poor Monty is a sad case.

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      2. It’s Northolt and South Harrow. It’s interesting how Elsie is keeping TM away from central London. Three appointments in three years in Hertfordshire and now Middlesex. Now there is a story in itself.

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      3. Why would Monty be unsuitable for ministry in Central London.

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      4. Pat @5.04 A sad case? You know nothing. All you hear is gossip and untruths which you print. You print lies to titillate your readership.

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    2. 4.31: That comment is very unhelpful and mean spirited about someone who was seriously abused sexually. Do you have any awareness of the emotional, spiritual and mental dsmage, pain and hurt caused by sexual abuse? Everyone copes differently. To make so personalised a comment about Fr. McCafferty is ignorant, abusive and outrageous. I hope you never experience any trauma whereby medication may physically change your body or where you hurt so deep that you never regain a normal life. Comment on his views not in his appearance. At least try to be a little more sensitive and intelligent. Your comment is that of a bully. I’m shocked that Pat, who himself was sexually abused and knows the inner torment should allow a bully like you to make such crass and vulgar a comment.

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      1. Hold on! There are enough severely damaged people in ministry, and if a candidate were still in recovery after trauma, he would not be suitable for ordination. To pick up yesterday’s thread, ordination cannot be compensation for whatever wrong had been done to him. As a priest he is in a position where other needy and vulnerable people seek his care and advice, and they should not have his own emotional and psychological baggage imposed upon them. A priest needs wisdom, discernment and compassion, and Father McCafferty’s condemnation of other individuals for differing from his own line – to the extent that he would wish to see them excluded from the faith community – demonstrates that he lacks these essential qualities.

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      2. It was merely an observation. The time he was on six-hundred calories a day. It would do Bp Pat no harm too.

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  16. I could never understand how Father McCafferty, aged 24, allowed Jim Donaghy to abuse him on the eve of his ordination?

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    1. 5:11
      Did you ever hear of male rape?

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    2. @ D&C “priest” at 5:-11pm – Paddy was raped by Donaghy on the eve of Donaghy’s own ordination. Paddy was not 24 years of age. He was quite early on in his studies for the priesthood and far from being ordained. I remember Paddy as a student. He looked about 14
      years old. You would have taken him easily for a second or third year in secondary school. There wasn’t pickings on him and he would have been no match for the strength and size of Donaghy. There other incidents of serious sexual assault against him by Donaghy over a period of a few years. During that time Donaghy was targeting others too. For all of this, including abuse of a 7 year old boy in confession, the dirt bird was served with ten years at her majesty’s pleasure in 2011. I hope this clarifies matters for you “priest”.

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      1. 12:13am

        So, Paddy was raped in Seminary?
        If so, name the Seminary, please.

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  17. Bishop Pat at 4:20pm. Who says so?

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    1. @12:13am – There was a criminal trial on all of this and James Donaghy was convicted of multiple crimes against three victims including Fr Paddy when he was young. Donaghy later pleaded guilty to the sexual abuse of a seven year old boy and was given a sentence to run concurrently with the one he was already serving. This is all in the public domain for some years now.

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      1. Jim Donaghy – aka “Jubilee Jim” as some of his fellow clergy called him – Paddy Walsh’s big buddy. A sordid tale indeed. Another big buddy of Walsh – a judge – tried to sit on the trial but she was rumbled and had to step down from it. Fr Paddy was abused when he was a student by Donaghy, at presbyteries in Belfast as I read and there were two other victims in different Belfast parishes. Fr Paddy was indeed very young looking even after he was ordained. I had dealings with Donaghy once – a very nasty piece of work indeed. A dangerous and domineering individual.

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  18. Pat @6.55pm. The temptations in Central London are too much in the food and drink department plus much more where you can be totally incognito. In a place like Northolt or Welwyn everybody would know your business and know which pubs you frequented and a lot more about your private life. After the Lourdes incident Monty got plastered and slagged off some of the Curia. Elsie did nothing. Lourdes is a small place too.

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    1. Which of course is why problem priests are usually placed in Central London parishes where they can say Mass and not have to engage too much in an established parish community where people know each other. The exceptions of course are the fancy London parishes not run by the Jesuits or Oratorians which are handed out to former golden boys such as Jim Curry or the ubiquitous ex Anglicans. If Monty gets hauled in for one of Elsie’s little chats, I doubt Carmel will be appearing with the coffee tray. Is Fatty not due some further study, or will it be the kiss of death known as ℅ Archishop’s House? Poor old sod.

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    2. The attractions of Soho would be too great.

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      1. Soho is only one place that Elsie wants some of his priests to be kept well away from. The problem ones are usually sent to the far ends of the diocese in Middlesex or Hertfordshire (Elsie’s dumping ground).

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  19. It’s patently obvious from today’s comments, that the “pro choice” branch of the SDLP are out in force. Claire, Colum, Seamas, Rory, Dominick, Brian and all the gang – hi yas! How’s your nuances doing? Yizzer gonna get your arses kicked in the elections! 😁

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    1. The SDLP and UUP are in terminal decline.

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      1. Two parties without a purpose now. Go woke get broke.

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  20. 7.28: The corollary of what you say is true also: those who face, name and confront their own traumas through psychotherapy and counselling are very often more real, true and human in their empathy for others. To suggest that we have so called automatic wisdom is a heresy. The greatest lessons we learn come from our own personal lives, our understanding of our own fragilities, vulnerabilities, flaws and struggles. The unreflected life is an empty life. Some of the most humanly kind and compassionate people I’ve encountered are those who have faced traumas, loss, depression, alcoholism and relationship challenges. Suffering or brokenness of any kind can shape us into truly good human beings. We all learn from our life’s experiences. Priest are human beings first and foremost and are therefore subject to the myriad of human problems faced by all others. I don’t believe that we should place our struggles on those who seek our help but we certainly can empathise much better with others when they discern that you speak out of personal experience. I have found over the tears that when you share something of your own struggling humanity (when appropriate) people listen more intently. Priests are not automatons, unfeeling or distant. We are called to be with people, to listen, to advise wisely and to be kind in our compassionate.

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    1. 9.36
      I’m sorry, but when did you, and like-minded colleagues, publicly and collectively exercise the ‘compassionate’ among you in light of the rape and sodomy of innocent children, and its systemic and canonical cover-up, by your colleagues, especially by the episcopate (including the papacy)?
      Words to this effect don’t cut mustard anymore; they simply won’t suffice.
      Convince us, please, that your affirmation is more than pious, hypocritical hot air.

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      1. 10:20pm
        I’m with you, MC.
        That’s the challenge to priests and the episcopate, and the wider Christian community.
        Publicly and collectively exercise the ‘compassionate’ among you, as well as remorse and atonement to the Lord, for the ABOMINATION of rape and sodomy of children, as well as abuse of vulnerable adults, and it’s cover up. Words don’t do it. Gestures please.

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  21. 9:36
    True. Good insightful comment.
    Many priests, not in touch with their own woundedness, appear to lack humanity.(repressed emotionally).
    Facing up to our woundedness makes us more human with a greater capacity to empathise with our fellow humans. We are all broken to a greater or lesser extent. I hope those who tend to ‘gaslight’ never have to deal with a serious psyo- emotional issue. Life is difficult. Everyone carries ‘a cross’. Don’t make it any heavier for others. Or, better still, help others carry their ‘cross’ if you can. Christians call it charity.

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  22. Anonymous slabber at 7:28pm, You clearly don’t know the priest you are slabberin about. I went to him with a very serious problem. He was the essence of kindness and compassion to me and helped me so much. His parishioners love him. There’s nothing “damaged“ about Fr Pat. And he’s 100% correct on these abortion promoting politicians. I can’t wait for them to come to my door canvassing. I was a Sinn Fein supporter all my life. NEVER AGAIN! And as for the SDLP? They’re dead in the water. It’s Aontu or a spoiled vote for me.

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    1. Aontu is a spoiled vote.

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  23. el dictador malvado 3rd Nov 2019 — 11:30 pm

    To those charged with care of innocence, far and abroad, that have ears to hear and eyes to see. Take heed.
    ‘’He who walks in integrity walks securely: But he who perverts his ways WILL be found out.’’ (Proverbs 10: 9)
    ‘’It seemed fitting for me as well, having Investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you in consecutive order, most excellent Theophilus.’’(Luke 1: 3)
    ‘’Evildoers do not understand what is right, but those who seek the LORD understand it perfectly with a childlike purity.’’ (Proverbs 28: 5)

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  24. VENI SANCTE SPIRITUS

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  25. 10.52: Indeed words don’t do it…so you say. Words are a beginning at least. It’s amazing how people like you jump in the bandwagon of judgment and condemnation. Individual acts if compassion and care are essential in helping people cope with trauma. Often the quietly given acts of compassion speak louder than roof top shouting, which seems your hobby. I imagine that you are part of the laptop brigade who criticise and analyse all ills of society but do f**k all to help resolve them. The type that say, “isn’t it horrendous that thousands are himeless”, yet sit back and let others respond. Your type are all empty vessels with nothing but trollopy nonsense to offer. Go out to the world and do something worthwhile.

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    1. 9:29pm

      No. Words don’t do it. We’ve had almost 40 years of empty words from the Church hierarchy.
      Now, the diocese of Raphoe has to be re-visited. Empty words from a number of Bishops in the past? No doubt. Must Ferns be re-visited, or the diocese of Cloyne be re-visited, or the Archdiocese of Dublin be re-visited? Probably. In fact, highly likely, along with the rest of the Irish dioceses. By the way, Fr. you’d be very surprised at what I’ve done to create change and make a positive impact in the world and Church.
      Fr. between you, me and the Holy Spirit, all dioceses in Ireland need to be investigated.

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    2. 9:29am
      I object to the use of the word trollopy. I was called a trollop by a priest on this blog.
      He refused to apologise.
      Jesus had trollops among his disciples.

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      1. 8.28: Monica, surely you know by niw that all types appear on this blog: some are humorous, some witty, smart and intelligent, others are sillly and ignorant. If you’re on this blog be prepared for insult.

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      2. 8.28: Monica, real ladies and gentlemen don’t partake of this blog!!!!

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  26. Bishop Len & The Craggy Crew featuring Bishop Pat & The Oratory Singers. 4th Nov 2019 — 12:56 pm

    ”My Sweet Lord”
    Written and Sung by George Harrison – From the Album: All Things Must Pass. (1970).
    My sweet Lord
    Hm, my Lord
    Hm, my Lord
    I really want to see you
    Really want to be with you
    Really want to see you Lord
    But it takes so long, my Lord
    My sweet Lord
    Hm, my Lord
    Hm, my Lord
    I really want to know you
    Really want to go with you
    Really want to show you Lord
    That it won’t take long, my Lord (Hallelujah)
    My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)
    Hm, my Lord (Hallelujah)
    My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)
    I really want to see you
    Really want to see you
    Really want to see you, Lord
    Really want to see you, Lord
    But it takes so long, my Lord (Hallelujah)
    My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)
    Hm, my Lord (Hallelujah)
    My, my, my Lord (Hallelujah)
    I really want to know you (Hallelujah)
    Really want to go with you (Hallelujah)
    Really want to show you Lord (ahh)
    That it won’t take long, my Lord (Hallelujah)
    Hmm (Hallelujah)
    My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)
    My, my, Lord (Hallelujah)Hm,
    my Lord (Hare Krishna)My, my, my Lord (Hare Krishna)Oh hm, my sweet Lord (Krishna, Krishna)Oh-uuh-uh………….

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    1. 9:24pm 9:23pm
      What does that make you? What does it say of a priest insulting me calling me a trollop?

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      1. Trollop: A woman who has many casual sexual encounters.

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      2. 10:47pm
        It calls into question the priest being a disciple of Jesus Christ.

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  27. + Pat, any notion what the comment you didn’t post was about? I think you might.

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    1. 1:32pm
      Follow-up
      I understand you are familiar, to some extent, with the college in question The situation alluded to will put the teachers strike in the ‘halfpenny place’. Those trying to manage the matter have unwittingly ‘dug a hole’ for themselves.(They need minding). The wider implications are significant, hence the need for a wider investigation.

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      1. 2:34pm

        Follow-up.

        I forgot to mention, an individual involved, claimed to have been a victim of Fr. Greene.

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  28. Gay Byrne has died. Let the tributes pour in, personally I disliked the man. Step forward Darcy to start weeping and take over the funeral arrangements. However, not sure if Gay really believed in God from past comments he made. Could be a Crem job instead.

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    1. 4:51

      Showing bad taste. Show some respect.

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      1. 5.44pm Oh dear, did I upset you? Will have to listen to non stop Gaymania shite now for days.

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      2. 6:28pm
        Want Gaymania shite? Head to Gayenooth.

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      3. I too found Gay Byrne a pain in the arse. He wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea despite the media proclaiming him some sort of broadcasting messiah. Got loads of money being a jackeen with the gift of the gab.

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      4. As predicted, the first two people on RTE talking about Gay Byrne were Brian D’Arcy and our Daniel. What a surprise!! Those two seem joined at the hip.

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    2. At 4:51.
      I believe Gay was a daily Mass-goer for all of his adult life. What makes you think otherwise?
      It’s also careless of you to equate cremation with atheism. Many believers are cremated, many humanists buried.

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  29. Girls; Lilly, Josie, Nora, Crackbat, Pinky Winky, Kerry Eye, are youse on retreat or sabbitical? Yer gone very quiet.

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  30. Bishop Len & The Craggy Crew featuring Bishop Pat & The Oratory Singers & Catholic Community Choir 4th Nov 2019 — 8:07 pm

    One Bread, One Body
    Composer John Foley S.J. (1978)

    One bread, one body,
    one Lord of all,
    one cup of blessing which we bless. And we, though many,
    throughout the earth,
    we are one body in this one Lord.

    Gentile or Jew,
    servant or free,
    woman or man, no more.

    One bread, one body,
    one Lord of all,
    one cup of blessing which we bless.
    And we, though many,
    throughout the earth,
    we are one body in this one Lord.

    Many the gifts,
    many the works,
    one in the Lord, of all.

    One bread, one body,
    one Lord of all,
    one cup of blessing which we bless.
    And we, though many,
    throughout the earth,
    we are one body in this one Lord.

    Grain for the fields,
    scattered and grown,
    gathered to one, for all.

    One bread, one body,
    one Lord of all,
    one cup of blessing which we bless.
    And we, though many,
    throughout the earth,
    we are one body in this one Lord.

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    1. Yeah perfect for the Supper of the Lord( 1969 Roman Missal), we don’t bless any cups in the Mass

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      1. Fr. Jack Hackett of The Craggy Crew 4th Nov 2019 — 9:48 pm

        Anonymous 9:24PM

        ‘That would be an ecumenical matter’.

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      2. 9:24
        Really?

        Here’s how St Paul puts it in 1 Corinthians 10:16

        “The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a communion of the body of Christ?”

        It would be a good idea for you to do a little research before claiming publicly to know what Catholics do or believe.

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  31. Fr McCafferty’s views on the Eucharist and politicians who support abortion are only half s story.

    What about his views on the Eucharist and politicians who support the introduction of same-sex marriage into the north of Ireland?

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    1. 11.40
      You mean ‘into Donegal’? But same-sex marriage is already legal there.

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      1. No. Not only into the north east of Ireland, but into the north of Ireland.

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