PRIEST DEFENDS COMMENTS ABOUT MINI EXORCISMS.

Fr Michael Doyle critical of person who leaked remark from his sermon

David Looby Wexford People.

The priest who said he planned to perform mini exorcisms on young Poulfur parishioners in their homes ahead of their Confirmation has stood by his comments, saying he would expect more of parishioners who reported the matter to the media.

Fr Michael Doyle told his congregation at St Aidan’s Church in Poulfur on Sunday week ago that he planned to perform mini exorcisms while visiting children who will be celebrating their Confirmation next year.

Fr Doyle’s comments have been published in media outlets across the world over recent days, something he finds astonishing.

Fr Doyle, 50, said he was not referring to performing formal exorcisms, but to placing ‘a blessing on the family home against evil’.

The diocese of Ferns confirmed that it had received a number of complaints from parents in the area about Fr Doyle’s comments and that it had referred the matter to the diocese’s vicar-general, Monsignor Joe McGrath.

‘When I was using the term “exorcism” that’s what I meant,’ he said. ‘Not an exorcism in the formal way. Just a family blessing on the home.’

He said he performs the rite as part of the usual programme of religious practises he performs for Baptism, Communion and Confirmation.

‘This is part of my spiritual work for both groups (communion and confirmation) for every single child. I do a visitation programme with families.’

His usual practice with children who are receiving the sacraments of Holy Communion or Confirmation is that he sends a statue of the Sacred Heart home with a different child each week and the family is invited to use the statue ‘as a focal point for family prayer’. ‘I obviously don’t just force myself on them. I ask to be invited and I give the respective family the Sacred Heart of Jesus. I ask them if I can bless them (the children). If they so desire I can have their house blessed with a blessing for the family and their home.

The blessing is against evil.’
Fr Doyle said he mentioned minor exorcism at the 11.30 a.m. Mass, adding that he probably never used the term before but decided to go with it because he likes to joke around and keep his sermons light.

‘I was being humorous, I joke around quite a bit and that was lost in translation (in the reports). I could have been misunderstood or misinterpreted. It’s not like the Exorcist movie. I think I’d be scared of that myself.’

A local resident who attended the Mass confirmed that Fr Doyle said he would be visiting local houses and encouraged parents to build up the number of prayers they say with their child to a decade of the Rosary.

Speaking to this newspaper Fr Doyle said he told parents of first Holy Communion and Confirmation children in the parish of Templetown that he would like to visit their homes to carry out blessings, but only by prior arrangement. He joked that he is expecting a call from the owner of Loftus Hall to book him in for his Hallowe’en Lock Down events this week.

Fr Doyle said he has already written to parents to clarify the matter. ‘As soon as I got the word, I could see there was some misunderstanding.’

From Terrerath, Fr Doyle was previously chaplain at Wexford General Hospital and PP of St Leonards for four years. He was also a curate in Texas for many years. When asked how he felt about all of the publicity, Fr Doyle said he was amazed by the way the story made it out into the media, adding that it was ignoble sort of thing to do.

‘The noble sort of thing would have been to contact the person directly. I was trying to enjoy my day off but it was ruined by a call from the Bishop’s office at 11. I would say the Saltee Islands will be my next parish.’

Fr Doyle has been parish priest of Poulfur for several months and said he is enjoying his time serving the area. He said he is acutely aware of the dark influence Fr Sean Fortune had on the parish during his campaign of sexual abuse terror in the 1980s. ‘Of course people are going to be sensitive to what happened 30 years ago. For them it’s not something that happened in the past. It’s not historic, it’s very personal to them so you have to be very sensitive in those situations, especially where it’s domestic violence or sexual abuse. You would be very conscious of people who have been deeply hurt or wounded totally unjustly. We can’t be guilty by association with him.’

Fr Doyle defended his policy of calling to people’s homes, saying it is utterly extraordinary how the exorcism comment has gathered such traction in the media.

‘When I was in St Leonards I did exactly the very same thing. The child came up at Mass and they prayed with their families and I joined them. I wasn’t any big deal.’
When asked if he had used the term exorcism while in St Leonards, he replied that he had not.

Fr Doyle said he will not change his approach to his sermons so Poulfur parishioners can expect plenty more interesting sermons over the coming months and years, providing the move to the Saltees doesn’t pan out. ‘There have been people ringing me in support of me. I haven’t had any adverse reaction to this. You would hope people would have had a little bit more knowledge about their faith. I don’t think what I said is controversial. As regards sermons I will continue to preach as I usually do, with humour. I try not to make people fall asleep in the pew. This happened. It comes with the territory.’

This is not the first time Fr Doyle has shot to media attention. Reacting to a post on Facebook by former New Ross Municipal District council Cathaoirleach Cllr Willie Fitzharris praising the success of the summer school in 2018, Fr Doyle, who was then stationed in St Leonards parish said: ‘For the promotion of the death of children. Yes, that is very cultural. The culture of death. It reminds one of a gathering of Nazis self congratulating themselves.’

PAT SAYS

Who is this ejit dressed in black and green, and wanting to put the devil out of all the children and parents in his parish.

Is he a reincarnation of the nut case paedophile Sean Fortune?

Why is the bishop of Ferns and his clergy allowing this dressed up Haloween clown to have the freedom to prey on the Wexford people?

Have they learned nothing from the damning Ferns Report?

It seems to me that the RCC has become the refuge for people who years ago would have been housed in lunatic asylums.

Is the RCC the new Duffys Circus?

121 thoughts on “PRIEST DEFENDS COMMENTS ABOUT MINI EXORCISMS.

  1. A Nutter!

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  2. Joseph Lollard 8th Nov 2019 — 4:16 am

    Well said, Pat.
    But I’d advise you to be careful.
    And I’d advise you not to post any of your reader’s comments.

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    1. Joe, any chance of providing a link to Elsie Nichols 7th November appearance at IICSA about CMOC?

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      1. Joseph Lollard 8th Nov 2019 — 10:19 am

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      2. Joseph Lollard 8th Nov 2019 — 10:29 am

        I notice that the ‘very senior cleric’ has gone anonymous again. And the Cardinal’s statement, which named him, had yesterday been removed from the IICSA website. So as to protect the alleged victim?

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      3. Joseph Lollard 8th Nov 2019 — 10:56 am

        And here’s a link for today


        The lawyers are hammering the RCC

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      4. IICSA Docs.
        https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/15677/view/CHC001946.pdf
        Some very interesting stats here
        Arundel and Brighton diocese has for instance;
        1- One Bishop subject to Covenants of Care/ Safeguarding Plans
        2- Five Priests subject to Covenants of Care/Safeguarding Plans
        3- Arundel and Brighton commits 19% of its curial budget to Safeguarding
        Compared with the stats for the other diocese’ it is very high
        Any thoughts?

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  3. Fat , jokey and intruding into people’s lives. The Church permits non Catholics to receive communion at a wedding so why insist on a programme of preparation for any of the Sacraments? Isn’t there a Catholic school to do that anyway? No the priest wants to be the centre of attention so much so that he’s happy to make a joke about exorcism to entertain, no wonder people are confused they haven’t heard a reference to the supernatural in fifty years. There’s a clear disconnection between his jovial manner in the interview and the photo wearing the soutane and the biretta I bet he would say he was wearing it for a laugh. If you want to wear the soutane then give away your other clothes and wear it everyday otherwise it’s dressing up not an outward sign of religious life.

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    1. The Church does not permit non Catholics to receive Communion at weddings.

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      1. I was at a funeral where many many non Catholics went and received communion. Fact

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  4. Retired judge 8th Nov 2019 — 5:44 am

    The biretta with a green pom-pom is part of the proper academic or non-liturgical attire of the
    holder of a degree in canon law: for the licentiate with three horns, as shown in the photograph, for the doctorate with four. I know nothing about the green sash which may possibly also be academic dress in a pontifical faculty. If a priest wishes to wear a biretta in a parish setting, plain black is probably correct and, in my view, soberly appropriate.

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  5. Just another stereotypical buffoon. Makes you wonder just how robust their selection process is

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    1. Selection process. Is there a selection process?

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    2. Mandatory requirement when selecting canaditates ; a bath of Lourdes water, with daily blessings for most, including faculty.

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      1. Many priests prefer the gay sex in the Lourdes Meadow to the Lourdes water.

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  6. I crossed paths with the late Fr. Sean Fortune many years ago.
    He invited me to his holiday home off the coast of Co. Wicklow.
    Has that property been blessed against evil?

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    1. What was the purpose of the invite? Were you in danger, do you think.

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      1. Absolutely.I met him once. Didn’t like the man. Over-powering, over-bearing, manipulative, domineering character.
        I intuitively suspected he was up to no good. I was a very young man, but not stupid. I didn’t accept his invitation.
        I thank God, for what might seem like small mercies.

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      2. I’m very glad you were so wise for a very young man and declined the invite. Well done. You would have been a fly in his spiders web.

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    2. 8:24 am
      If true, shame on those priests.

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    1. They do, it’s called Grindr.

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    2. Never heard of it, but a few familiar names such as “Auntie” Joanna soddin’ Bogle.

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  7. Thanks. I’ll put it like this, ‘once bitten twice shy’.
    Someone had tried it on with me, before Fr. Fortune, but didn’t succeed.
    I’m fortunate to still be alive, without any exaggeration, + Pat.

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  8. No.

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    1. Ok. I’m glad you survived that too. I had similar experiences as a young man and priest.

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      1. JC. I survived but not unscathed.
        Harassment ensued with serious consequences, to the extent a hatchet job was required. I knew too much.

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      2. It’s always the case. Knowledge is power. They fear the truth. They get rid of truth tellers 😥

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  9. Raphael Hythloday 8th Nov 2019 — 7:18 am

    Bishop Pat, I’m a little surprised. You too have been ambushed by journalistic “colour.” You too have had unorthodox but thoughtful positions misrepresented and sensationalised. So your editorial here is especially galling.

    Your cause is righteous. Your intentions are noble. But there are times when you’re egregiously uncharitable.

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    1. I’m sure I am often guilty of lack of charity 😥

      But when you’ve seen and heard as much as I have for nearly 50 years, it’s hard not to be angry.

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      1. 7.23: All faux outrage and indignation. You’re not the only cleric who is angry and who helps survivors. Many of us do it quietly out of respect for those we help. Why are you always boasting? You are not as virtuous as you imagine…..

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      2. Where have I ever claimed to be virtuous?

        I am nothing other than a sinner.

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  10. Absolutely.
    There’s feet dragging in my neck of the woods around an investigation with potential to blow the rotten lid off the lot of them. Nexus! People don’t know the half of it.

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    1. I’m not at all surprised. Thankfully, the truth has a way of coming out in it’s own time. Mr Karma is always just around the corner.

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      1. Amen. Enough, said for now. Keep up the good work, + Pat.
        Don’t let the f****** get you down.

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    2. 7:54am
      Psychological projection Fr.?

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      1. 8.01: Yes, if you wish for that description, since it’s the truth. Why should we accept unjust and untrue generalised comments of judgments? I believe in fairness and balance but that’s frequently denied on this blog.

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  11. Lesbian Anglican vicar named head of National Abortion Federation. Why are gays so supportive of abortion?

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/lesbian-episcopal-priest-named-new-head-of-national-abortion-federation?__twitter_impression=true

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  12. 8:14 am
    Thanks Fr.
    You’ve acknowledged you’re psychologically projecting.
    Honesty is the best policy. It’s very important to own our own projections.
    The truth starts with onesself.
    I wish you well.

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  13. A Nutter!

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    1. 8:49 am
      Owning projections helps prevent mental health issues.

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  14. Fly on Th Wall 8th Nov 2019 — 8:50 am

    Is them green things from Star Trek or the order of the leprechaun hi. Exorcism can be a dangerous word in a world that is more superstitious than religious. Our kids deserve better Boo (sorry Hi)

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    1. Hello hi fly @ 8:50 am
      Ghostbusters fly…. is it ghostbusters.
      Don’t go pulling the Divils angels by the tale cos they bite.
      No joking matter at all at all
      specially for those who won’t say Boo to a goose
      in case the goose Boos back.
      Bye bye fly hi.

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  15. VENI SANCTE SPIRITUS

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  16. Pat you’d actually get on well with Fr Doyle, he’s some craic, I’m being serious.

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  17. Fr Doyle provided me with excellent advice on how to report Fr Mullaney and his strange goings on with Stephen Wilson and Chris Derwin.

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    1. Did you need a blessing ?

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  18. I didn’t get to see the second day of + Nichols’ testimony to IICSA. How did he get on ? The first day was an excruciating watch. I await with interest the IICSA report, and I suspect that if it reads badly for + Nichols, as I suspect it will, then I think that the Vatican will throw him under the bus and he will have to go before his 75th.

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    1. I think the Vatican may soon appoint a coadjutar archbishop to Westminster.

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      1. Yes, that would be good, and would contain him, and give us something to look forward to. + Stock of Leeds, maybe ? He seems quality.

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      2. Stock is a lick arse of Vinny. A protege. Supported by our Vin from day one in Brum who promoted him to Education at St. Chan’s HQ. Has risen through the ranks purely with Vinnys support. It’s sad people can’t see this manipulation going on. Stock oversees safeguarding – I wonder who got him promoted to that and controlling it in the background. Wise up people.

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  19. Fr Doyle is involved with the alt right

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  20. The only thing that needs to be exorcised is his eating habits. He seems like a very arrogant man with serious mental issues.

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    1. Funny how a lot of trad priests are porkers – even though they have a fantasy of themselves as lean hungry ascetics.

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      1. Cardinal Tobin is blessed with a hearty appetite.

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  21. The Saltee Islands? Great Saltee, or Little Saltee.

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  22. I have seen those green additional effects on trad clergy coming out of the northern shrines such as Warrington. They signify membership of the Order of Lazarus – look it up on Wiki if interested in the loonier fringes of the Catholic right with their fantasies of the king over the water and all that jazz. The fact is that Father Doyle looks utterly ridiculous. His use of the term exorcism in relation to the sacraments is a deliberate harking back to the old rite of baptism of which it then formed the first part. To use the term today is completely misleading, and Doyle cannot claim innocence in being shocked by the response. It conjures up some of the worst aspects of where religion dangerously crosses with magic with the ( male ) priest as the all-powerful shaman. He would be screaming the place down if he had a white witch operating in his parish – there is a long fascinating history of fear of women as healers.
    Furthermore what role can either the rosary or the Sacred Heart play in the spiritual development of a young person today? They had enormous value in enabling a relationship with the divine rooted in the actuality of human life, but they both sprang from the culture of their time, and to inculcate them now in a school or family home is pure affectation. No wonder people get more out of yoga whatever Phone says. In fact there are well-established Catholic exercises such as centering prayer and Ignatian methods which help discern God in our actual lives.

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    1. Phone of course should have read as Phonsie Cullinan, who, yet again, made a tit of himself trying to ban yoga from parish halls. He does not of course ban the sale and consumption of alcohol by parish clubs which provide a nice little earner.

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    2. Who is Phone?

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      1. Did fonsie succeed in banning yoga ? ?

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    3. Raphael Hythloday 8th Nov 2019 — 9:27 pm

      In fact the rite of exorcism is still a thing in the rite of baptism. And the rosary and the Sacred Heart are time-tested means of meditative prayer and intimacy with God who loves us. I suspect your hostility to these means, but not Ignatian prayer, is indicative of your own personal history. Without demeaning your experience, we should beware generalising that experience to the Church at large.

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      1. Is it Phonsie phone or phonse or fonsie? Multiple personality?

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  23. Vin was very discrediting yesterday of bishops Egan and Doyle. What I really thought was shameful was the way he spoke knowing that the lady in question was sitting in the room and yes he was briefing by Fr Alexander master that she was there. Shame on him

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    1. Jesus, Bishop Pat, John Henry Newman was quoted twice at Gaybos funeral. Newman was totally anti-Irish. Hated the Irish. Manning made this observation. Many made this opinion

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    2. 1:29
      Phonsie drew the ire of a Hindu leader in the USA over trying to ban yoga from schools.
      The Hindu gentlemen is lobbying the Taoiseach questioning funding of Catholic schools according to news reports on the issue.

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      1. 2.45: All schools, irrespective of religious or secular ethos are entitled to government funding. Let the USA hindu leader mind his own business and tackle the outrageous inequalities in his own country especially Trump’s appalling treatment of migrants and Mexicans.

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      2. Anonymous Angelicus 9th Nov 2019 — 10:23 am

        Extracts from article in The Irish Times 22nd October 2019.
        By Cauvery Madhavan
        “Om Shanti (Peace be with you) Bishop Phonsie! It’s okay, tuck the cross back into your cassock and save the garlic for another day because, believe me, yoga comes in peace. It has no agenda, no proselytising motive for it is not a religion.”
        “Yoga has neither an inferiority complex nor does it suffer delusions of grandeur. Yoga has no arguments with religions of any kind because it doesn’t offer itself as an alternative. Yoga just is – yoga.
        Yoga’s origins can be traced to the Vedas, the ancient Indian texts dating from around 1900BC from which also arose the Hindu, Jain and Buddhist religions. So yoga is not a Hindu practice though it shares its origins with that religion.
        Modern yoga in its most popular forms, as practised all over Ireland, can be attributed to Sage Patanjali who, sometime in the period between 200AD and 400AD, codified the Yoga Sutras which to this day serve as a guide to posture, breathing and meditation. Yogis might well be possessed, but only with a desire to keep mind and body in good condition”
        “The Catholic Bishop of Waterford and Lismore, Bishop Alphonsus Cullinan, who has warned against teaching yoga and mindfulness in schools, might want to consider why so many Irish people are taking to yoga so enthusiastically. The reasons are so far removed from what he imagines that he really doesn’t need to mobilise the deliverance brigade any time soon.”
        “The Catholic Church’s anti-yoga stance is a deflection of sorts. But yoga is not the bogeyman. Practising yoga does not make anyone a lesser Catholic. In fact the wellbeing that comes with regular practice of yoga (or any other physical activity for that matter) definitely contributes considerably towards being hardworking, well-tempered, patient and tolerant with your family, children, friends and co-workers. All good Christian attributes.”
        “In the last two decades so many Irish people have in droves lost faith in the institution of the church while retaining every bit of their faith. Ireland is not any more a nation that will be dictated to by men in costumes, and certainly not about something so absurd. Imagine being afraid of yoga!”
        “This demonisation of an ancient practice that professes no belief systems and therefore seeks no converts is just a diversionary tactic. The existential danger to the Catholic Church is totally from within. There is plenty to be exorcised, and Ireland knows what doors the deliverance ministry needs to be knocking on first.
        Yoga, Bishop Phonsie, is the very least of the huge problems of credibility that exist and are multiplying for the Catholic Church in Ireland. Yoga is not the anti-Christ. Namaste (Bye).”

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      3. What a wonder quote.

        If Phonsie took up yoga it might subside his anger and gently get him to take a look at his Opus Dei fanaticism.

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  24. Damien McNiece 8th Nov 2019 — 1:53 pm

    +Pat you’ve said that in the past the RCC refused you communion and wanted to offer you a blessing.

    David Norris received communion from Kieran. Wasn’t refused.

    Hypocrisy. Wouldn’t look great having an altercation on RTÉ.

    We’re hearing that RTÉ is going bust. How much is this tv coverage costing the kip?

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    1. Isn’t David Norris a Protestant?

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    2. 1;53pm
      To whom it may concern, its the holier than thou brigade; and here is your host…. but not unless….Buckley gets a blessing…no more no less…. that’s a lesson to the rest of them…from the busted flush.

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  25. Diarmuid Martin looked old and fragile on his feet today. Where was his deacon? 😢

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    1. I thought he and Father Maloney did a nice dignified ceremony.

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    2. I agree. It would have been nice to see Deacon Byrne assist with his relatives funeral though.

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      1. Deacon Byrne said prayers at the home. He had some involvement in the planning too. It is sad that Diarmuid did not have him up there today. It was dignified anyway.

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      2. I dont think the Byrne family would have wanted Mr Gaynooth at their husbands, fathers and grandads funeral.

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      3. Pat someone is trolling you. This is not true. The Byrne stalker is back.

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  26. Jackeen Croke 8th Nov 2019 — 2:57 pm

    Was the cleric to the stars Fr Brian D’Arcy CP in attendance at Gaybo’s farewell in the Pro today. He certainly wasn’t the Presider. Looks like a ‘J’ got No 1 slot.
    Maybe the Merc let him down!

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    1. He was sent to the pews. Dermo wasn’t having him interfering. Well done Dermo.

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      1. The family requested a very simple funeral. Fr D’arcy sat in the pews with the other clergy. There was also no sign of Josephus ‘albus’ Meerick

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      2. I’m glad that Darcy didn’t get to turn it into a Darcy All About Me Country Western Funeral.

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  27. Pat, isn’t it great that Fr. Leonard Foley S.J. is the celebrant at Gay Byrne’s funeral mass. A lovely, simple, reverent mass, the way every funeral mass should be, free of celebrity clerics, free of intrusive media. Gay had the appropriate awareness in life and in death. With dignified music and an intelligent, kind homily, the celebrant displayed the beauty of a funeral mass, even in loss, grief and sadness. Nine of the silly nonsense of beer bottles, cigarette cartons and crosswords that we get at funerals. Gay was obviously a man of deep faith, though possessed a genuine, questioning and reflective faith. God rest his good soul.

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    1. 3:31
      👍

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  28. Not a great fan of M Mc Aleese but she got it nailed on re RCC. It’s accurate more or less.
    ‘Church of pious males’ re her comments as there was no room for women. It was women who stayed at the foot of the cross while male apostles fled. It was Mary Madgelene a woman, who saw Jesus first on day of resurrection.
    Not a fan of her because his brother who is deaf many years older than myself. I heard it from his ex classmate in school for deaf boys only in Stillorgan. There was abuses that went on in that school which was founded by Bishop Mc Quaid. It was one of Mc Aleese’s relatives who worked in that school and saw the abuses there. Mc Aleese family took out their deaf son out of school for deaf boys and placed it in another school for deaf boys in Belfast or Uk. But Mc Aleese family never reported the abuses which would have stopped there but it went on and on for a decade or more. all teachers were afraid of the nuns (daughters of the cross or Liege) for years until one teacher stumbled into area of abuse. Then reported over and above school nun’s head then superior as nun ewas removed completely.
    That head nun never went on nor became another another head nun in another school in any location here and abroad. She was very spiteful and brought out all her sexual frustrations on all then young deaf boys. Found out that most boys have one thing in common was PTSD. That nun came form the north and died few years ago. Mc Aleese family so was many other families, knew that nun cos she was the head nun whom they had dealt with re their deaf boy. When she passed away as i asked around their reactions was’ she go to hell, bitch who deserved to rot in hell, she go hell etc. I was shocked cos it affected lot of deaf boys which i never thought cos i thought maybe a few of them.
    That’s why some deaf people including me, wasnt a great fan of Mc Aleese and the church especially more son on that sadistic nuns who denied and denied everything until they were blue in the face. If reported to outsiders like state authorities, which may have saved deaf boys a lot of psychological harm or mental turmoil which arose from abuses in deaf school.
    Finally it was Mc Quaid who set it up cos unknown reasons but one other reason i could think of was Parents were afraid of other deaf school (main one) cos reasons unknown to me or others. But a visit there would tell or inform parents of the bad vibe in main deaf school in Dublin. One elderly nun told me that cos parents asked her for advice as where to send their sons to.

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    1. Why do you have state you are deaf! Just post like us others who are non deaf.

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      1. 3:36pm & 11:07 pm
        DU, I like your contributions.👍
        I’m not hearing impaired, so my experience of life differs from yours.
        May I suggest, use whatever user name, you like !
        Don’t be bullied by nitwits on this blog.😊

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      2. MournemanMichael 9th Nov 2019 — 9:33 am

        Anon@11:07: That DU chooses to use this pseudonym may indicate how his hearing impairment impacts on him, and indeed on how he perceives others relationship to him. It’s his entirely valid choice.
        There is widespread misunderstanding of the nature of hearing loss, its effects, and its prevalence particularly in the older generation. Hearing impaired persons regularly have to insist that they are “deaf and not daft” in response to how they are perceived. Age UK research indicates that 71% of those 70+ have hearing loss. 70,000 individuals in N Ireland use hearing aids from among the 300,000 who have some degree of hearing loss. (Action on Hearing Loss research)
        The use of a pseudonym by regular blog contributors, something I have advocated here before many times, can be helpful keep track of individuals contributions and threads in the discussions, and in responding to any individual comment. That some choose one line “snort/indignation like” anonymous negative comment may be seen by some as an equally valid choice.
        MMM

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  29. You might like to take a look at this puke inducing account of the New England bishops ad limina meeting with Pope Francis
    https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2019/11/08/it-was-truly-amazing-new-england-bishops-describe-ad-limina-meeting-with-pope/
    You’d think Bishop Robert Reed of Boston had just met Justin Bieber. The experience was so amazing and earth-shattering for him that he asked for Francis’s zuchetta to take to the folks back home. Does he intend to display this to the faithful in a crystal casket? What the hell is this nonsense all about?

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  30. Gaybo must be a Saint. The priests were togged out in white. Dermo dressed down in his own cathedral: no bellyband.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-50350971/gay-byrne-s-funeral-takes-place-in-dublin

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  31. White vestments at funerals are pretty standard these days particularly for somebody in the public arena whose life somehow demands to be celebrated. Far out liberal though I am, I think I would still favour black, and the Old Rite would be preferable to My Way, Candle in the Wind, Dancing Queen or anything else that somebody might think appropriate!

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    1. Purple vestments please. As it’s not so presumptuous with the white SJ’s.
      Some of them don’t subscribe to the idea of hell.

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      1. MournemanMichael 9th Nov 2019 — 1:17 am

        And why should they believe in hell?
        It’s nought but a human construct to enforce conformity.
        MMM

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  32. Priests would die rather than break the seal of the confessional, says + Nichols ! Come on ! Priests would squeal at the first sign that they were in danger or that their comfortable life style and status was in peril, and spill the beans, with rationalisation just as they do when they are breaking their vows of celibacy, or poverty, or simply dipping in to the parish accounts. Who does + Nichols think he and his priests are ? The days of priests giving their lives for the faith and for Christ are long gone. It’s more giving their lives for themselves, these days. Cop on + Nichols. You made yourself look like an overly dramatic grand dame there. Really ! And, on the question of abuse of children, if a priest does hear this, wherever, in confession or not, he should report it, and the law should make him report it. A doctor, by far better trained and qualified and respected than a priest these days, has to report it, medical confidentiality or not. So, + Nichols, stop hyping up the status and importance of priests with this seal of confession stuff, please. It’s more of the, “Oh, we are are so special because we are ordained and have some kind of indelible ontological status on our souls and beings..” Rubbish ! You are a pile of self-serving, lying, dysfunctional twats ! And the Law will ensure that you behave just like the rest of us have to. No exceptions. No exclusions. No special status. Get it ?!

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    1. Does the priest jump out of the confessional and find out who’s on the other side, recognise them then tell the police this person said he was an abuser?Surely Nichols should have said the confessor would withhold absolution until the abuser had handed themselves in?

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    2. At 6.55pm – anon.
      Re breaking the seal of confession that is not the first time I heard it. It happened at my ex alma mater school. There was a vincentian priest there who reported it back to Christian brothers re sins of some deaf boys. Ex class mate of mine stole 20 pounds which was a lot of money that time (long before the euro). He told few of us not to tell any one as we agreed on that. But one day a certain Christian brother said to ex my class mate ‘ u stole twenty pounds’. He asked few of us did we grass on him as we strenuously denied time and time again. It then dawned on ex classmate that it was the last person he spoke to was a priest. So we planned to test that vincentian priest by sending one of us to confession and said to him – I stole a fiver and a roast chicken plus wine which was taken from their fridge. Then a month or two later instead of straight out of confession next day etc, same certain CB pointed out to one of us exactly re a fiver and chicken with wine stolen. Then we told him brazenly that priest told you this as he denied it so strongly which was obvious to ourselves. Then we told him that we would be waiting for that Vincentian priest in particular. After a break in school term, that Vincentian priest was transfered to school for deaf girls as he never came back. So much for the seal of confession which was supposed to be sacred and sealed. After that I couldn’t trust a priest since that violation. Never go to a same priest again. So much for the seal of confession that Rcc was harping and thrumping about it. My advice – don’t believe their word cos they can’t be trusted.
      You could trust a medical doctor or a lawyer than RCC regards to their seal of confidentiality.

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    3. 1:17 am
      MMM, how do you know?

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      1. MournemanMichael 9th Nov 2019 — 11:26 am

        Anon@ 10:05: On the subject of ‘hell’, I have offered an opinion I’ve often seen articulated by individuals much more intelligent, educated and wiser than myself. However for my own part, in relation to ‘hell’, I offer the same challenge on that matter as I do to many, in fact most, of the professed historical beliefs of religion: “Is there any shred of objective verifiable evidence that does not rely on “handed down” beliefs based on allegedly “sacred texts” no longer in existence”?
        It is for “believers” to produce their solid evidence should they wish to convince those who see no reason to unquestioningly simply believe what others have professed, especially when so many of those professed beliefs are illogically ridiculous.
        MMM

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  33. Bishop Marcus Stock of Leeds walked with a neocat community in Rome while at the Venerable. This association would certainly endear him to the neocats but would make him a divisive influence and a political hot potato in Westminster.

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    1. 11:26 am
      You being a humanist, why is it of concern to you?

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  34. Jackeen Croke 8th Nov 2019 — 7:58 pm

    Glad to hear St John Henry Newman getting a couple of mentions at Gaybo’s funeral.sadly Ireland lacks a cleric of such colossal ecclesiastical status who could have been quoted.

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  35. If only there was a vacancy at Clogherhead, Bp Pat. But Fr McVeigh got there first.

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  36. Bishop Len & The Craggy Crew featuring The Truth Seekers Singers 8th Nov 2019 — 9:43 pm

    “KARMA MAN”
    Sung & Written by David Bowie
    From The Album “The World Of David Bowie” 1970.
    Fingertip sun at sideshow stalls
    They throw the balls
    At coconut fur that hides behind
    Coloured shades that blind your eyes
    Every child’s mother holds an ice-cream cone
    They circle round
    Perceived unknown by an eye that peers
    From a hole in the tent where no one goes
    A figure sitting cross-legged on the floor
    He’s clogged and clothed in saffron robes
    His beads are all he owns
    Slow down
    Slow down
    Someone must have said “let’s slow him down”
    Slow down
    Slow down
    It’s pictured on the arms of the karma man
    Fairy tale skin
    Depicting scenes from human zoos
    Impermanent toys like peace and war
    A gentle face you’ve seen before
    Karma man tattooed on your side
    The wheel of life
    I see my times and who I’ve been
    I only live now and I don’t know why
    I struggle hard to take these pictures in
    But,
    All my friends can see is just the pinkness of his skin
    Slow down
    Slow down
    Someone must have said “let’s slow him down”
    Slow down
    Slow down
    It’s pictured on the arms of the Karma man x2

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    1. Jeez not this asshole again. I’m going to give up this blog on account of this

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      1. If you dont like his contributions dont even look at them.

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      2. I see the name and quickly scroll on as I know it will be a load of old sh*te.

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      3. I feel your pain. I scroll on but it irritates me when I see the name.

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      4. 10:34 pm. The baby needs to be told what to do, by the Bishop! LoL 😄
        Need a nappy change? Haha 😂

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    2. MournemanMichael 9th Nov 2019 — 1:40 am

      Wise up Pat! These “song quotations/contributions ” are ridiculous and by posting them, you further diminish the relevance of your blog.
      Any claim you make of not wanting to impose “literary restraint ” is plainly ridiculous and continuing posting their irrelevant inanity simply demeans your credibility.
      MMM

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  37. There’s a picture of the Gaynooth recruits on the Mt. Melleray Abbey Facebook page.

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    1. Put up the appropriate link, i.e. copy and paste.

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  38. Ban bridge Barney 8th Nov 2019 — 11:38 pm

    A journalist friend told under embargo to be in Newry on Monday at 11. RC church related. New bishop being announced perhaps?

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    1. Highly unlikely that a bishop will be appointed in Dromore before the current very sad state of affairs is sorted out by the current very hard working Apostolic Administrator and Archbishop of Armagh, God bless him.

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  39. Green cummerband and biretta pompom? Where does this come from?

    The paralells with another Ferns cleric- now deceased- are eerie

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    1. My theology teacher wore a green cassock on St. Patrick’s Day, and I heard of a Boston Irish priest who wore an orange cassock on the same day just to irritate his colleagues.

      I’m really amused by the blue outfits one of those Trentish groups wear. The wonder to me is how they get American boys to wear those blue capes over their cottas.

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  40. Dromore cleric 8th Nov 2019 — 11:59 pm

    There is a rumour that the sister of priest in Armagh diocese told someone ‘confidentiality’ that he got ‘good news’!!

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    1. I dont know if being appointed an RC bishop these days is good news!

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    2. ‘Good news’ or a poisoned chalice ?

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    3. 11:59 pm
      Do you know a Dromore cleric sexually abused by Fr. Greene?

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  41. Oh dear. No single ticket from Gt Victoria Street to Newry required by any Belfast based priest then.

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