RELAUNCHED PRIEST’S ORGANISATION CALLS FOR ONE DAY WORKING WEEK.

THE CLERICAL ORGANISATION, THE SPR – SOCIETY OF PERPECTUAL RECREATION – HAS CALLED FOR A ONE DAY WORKING WEEK FOR OVERWORKED AND UNDER APPRECIATED IRISH CATHOLIC PRIESTS.

Canon Denis Sweeney RIP

The emergence of the SPR, founded by Canon Denis Sweeney of Northampton Diocese, in Ireland poses the prospect of the dissolution of the poorly regarded Irish priest’s union The Association of Catholic Priests.

Canon Sweeney was a biker and a massive collector of antiques, old clocks, old radios and hurch plate.

The relaunch of the SPR in Ireland occurred on Wednesday November 26th in the seaside recreation resort of Newcastle, County Down.

The Newcastle event was organised by the SPR’s founding secretary, Father Raimondo Turri SPR, formerly of Westminster diocese and now with the Verona Fathers in Italy.

Father Turri is thought to be the illegitimate child of Prince Charles and Dame Greta Turri, the Italian mistress of Saint John Paul 11.

The motto of the SPR is:

Et exivit face bonus et fecit bene

Which means ” He went out to do good and he did well”.

In other words, he, the priest, started off with good intentions, and later abandoned them.

Members of the SPR only do work on a Sunday but recreate alone and with each other on the other six days of the week.

They wine and dine either in each others presbyteries or in various hotels and hostelries.

Their meetings involve serious drinking and serious eating.

Periodically, they elect one of their members to the position they call Father General. At their gatherings Father General wears the purple mozetta of a deceased or retired bishop.

The SPR held an inaugural meeting of SPR NORTHERN IRELAND last Wednesday evening in an Italian restaurant in County Down. The English Father General presided over the meeting and I was the guest speaker.

I gently challenged them about the morality and spirituality of having such an imbalance between work and recreation in their lives and the level of cynicism that could accompany and inform such an imbalance.

While they were very gracious and indeed generous with me, they totally rejected my challenge and said that their outlook was perfectly in line with RC cleticalism to which they are 100% dedicated.

They gave me a speaking fee, arranged hotel accommodation and paid my travelling expenses.

Like AA they only use first names when non members are at their meetings. I gathered that the meeting was attended by the English Father General, Father Turri, two Down and Connor priests, one Dromore priest and five Armagh priests.

Each Northern priest present vowed to bring another priest with them to their next meeting in Enniskillen on December 28th.

WEDDING

I managed to combine my meeting with the SPR with a wedding in the Slieve Donard Hotel in Newcastle. It was a bit of a rough day, weatherwise, in the Mournes.

BROTHER CHARLES DE FOUCAULD

Today is the anniversary of the death of Brother Charles in the Sahara desert at Tamanrasset in 1916.

Brother Charles inspired the Little Brothers of Jesus, the Little Sisters of Jesus and the Jesus Caritas movement.

Google him. He is very interesting and inspiring.

WORLD AIDS DAY

Today we remember all the millions of our brothers and sisters who have perished in the AIDS disaster.

And we thank God for the new drugs the antiretrovirals that for all practical purposes are a cure and prevent hiv+ becoming AIDS.

109 thoughts on “RELAUNCHED PRIEST’S ORGANISATION CALLS FOR ONE DAY WORKING WEEK.

  1. Can permanent deacons join? Asking for a friend in Enniskillen.

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    1. That would be a question for the Father General.

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      1. No permanent deacons. A strict rule.

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    2. Where will the SPR meet in Enniskillen? Is it invite only?

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      1. If they will serve Dohertys black bacon with cabbage, spuds and parsley, onion or white sauce then count me in.

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      2. In the organ loft.

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      3. Bishop Joe Duffy should do the after dinner speech. He wouldn’t get an Oscar.

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      4. Canon Peter O’Reilly, diocesan patron of retired headmasters and organists surely has life membership. Enniskillen has had very underpowered PPs lately. The last one with any drive and vigour was Dean Flanagan.

        Mind you, if “God Save the Queen” is required at the end of the feast, Canon Peter is the go to priest.

        Only a few weeks ago he joined Arlene Foster and the Secretary of State in lustily singing Ulster’s National Anthem in the Protestant cathedral. He knew all the words.

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      5. The permanent deacons could sit at a separate table.

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    3. Today marks HIV/World Aids day. You said you would be marking the occasion when I asked you recently. what have you done?

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  2. Vermin, filthy, Christ-betraying, kiddie -fiddling? Romanist whore priests.
    Is the world better for, or without, these satanic VERMIM?

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    1. JC, Magna, change the subject. Very predictable.

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      1. 💤

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    2. That may be. But at least no one there was turned down for ordination because they were deemed unsuitable, UNLIKE SOME.

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  3. Get your hair cut pat. You look like a woman. Tranny

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    1. A hair cut is planned for Monday 😊

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  4. Dermo should sign up, based on his behaviour at ordinations where he just leaves after Mass and says barely a word to the newly ordained priest and his relatives.

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    1. He has to catch flights back to Rome. His main residence is in Rome. He shares a two bed apartment with Tighe.

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      1. Why did Diarmuid Martin ever become a priest? He doesn’t have a pastoral bone in his body.

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    2. Frank had no relatives to great. Or friends. Or anyone. No one likes him.

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      1. Dermo’s brother Seamus, a retired Irish Times hack, would have made a better Archbishop of Dublin. Seamus’s theological views are as heterdox as Dermo’s but at least he’s open about it.

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  5. I am very surprised that you would have anythi g to do with su h a group. The SPR group are having a laugh at your expense. This is utter nonsense. The organisers who invited you are obviously thick as two planks. God help us.

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  6. That’s a fine establishment in Newcastle, have eaten there myself. Hope you didn’t bump into the nosey Newry couple who spy on clergy who are having a light snack.

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    1. Yes it’s a good restaurant with very nice staff. No sign of that couple. But I like the couple and they do give us a good laugh.

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      1. I know the Villa very well. Benny the former owner was a neighbour before returning to Poland when his doctor wife was offered a consulant’s A&E post there. Shared many a bottle of red vino with them.

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      2. Dear Bishop Pat, my wife, Mary, died two months ago. We were not from Newry and I haven’t dined out since. That’s why we haven’t posted and we were not nosey. Please pray for Mary and for me. I look at your blog but it’s hard when people still make reference to us in a mocking way. We did enjoy dining out on a regular basis but it’s now no more. Life is cruel.

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      3. I am so sad to hear of Mary’s death. RIP.

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  7. Never, EVER, allow your precious child to be alone with a Romanist priest.

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    1. MAGNA'S MUMSY..😣😣😣 1st Dec 2019 — 9:23 am

      12.22: From the lunatic in his cave, Magna requests that no child ever be left alone with a Romanist! Since he avoided all such Romanist after being thrown out, we may legitimately ask what people has Magna been left alone with in his life that he is so twisted, so emotionally and spiritually damaged, evidenced by his OTT ramblings of hate speech, frustration, angst and poison. The poor Mags is bereft of human companionship and if he is ever to find a lover (imposdible of course) he’ll need to stop playing the same old, cranky, crazy, bizarre tune of hatred. Magna, you have too much time for Satan to overwhelm you. You, Maggie, are not NORMAL.😊😁😁😁😁🏞🍄🏞🏞🍄🍄

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      1. It’s a Sunday which means MC is out in force again spewing bile.

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  8. This is not a serious organisation. It was a joke set up by McSweeney and some other clergy (including some Anglicans). It was friends who ate together. Simple as.

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    1. 12.25am It still exists as friends who dine together and is alive and kicking in the North of Ireland – simple as! Perhaps you never did get an invite. The SPR are quite selective after all.

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  9. Bishop Pat, could the SPR extend to Scotland. I like the aim and philosophy. I’m very keen. I knew vaguely of Canon Denis McSweeney, an eccentric but harmless soul. He liked to tell jokes and old stories but you hit the nail on the head about his love of antiques, old radios etc. This SPR could fill a space for those of us who feel far from appreciated and in some instances isolated primarily by fellow Priests.

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    1. I hope the SPR would extend to Scotland too. Would you consider visiting us Pat? I heard you gave a small clergy retreat here lately. We have fine places to eat and ideal for a wee dram or two. My Bishop, Joe Toal, would be an ideal candidate for the SPR as would many of us here.

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    2. The good canon celebrated the TLM beautifully and with great care in Flitwick.

      It’s hard to believe that this First Sunday in Advent is the 50th anniversary of the imposition of the Novus Ordo and what do we have to show for it? The Vatican isn’t celebrating the anniversary, perhaps because nobody under 50 goes to the NO.

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      1. Denis was a true gentleman, totally eccentric, a joy to be in his company and loved the SPR that he founded. Glad to hear it’s still ongoing in N Ireland. He would love that. Instead of saying “cool” or “I approve” he only had one alternative word to offer “Vicious”. RIP Canon Denis SPR

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      2. At 3:42. I bet the only Latin you know is Kyrie eleison!

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    3. I too would love the SPR fraternal philosophy here in Scotland. We clergy are forgotten over here. Let us know Pat when you hop on the ferry over here. You’d be very welcome. It’s just a short trip from Larne.

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  10. Fly on Th Wall 1st Dec 2019 — 12:35 am

    How thfek can anyone justify padres on the p whee 6 days a week hi. Who is paying for it but. I can sorta c a twisted logic that tries to justify the antithesis of Alcoholics Anonymous. If true what does it say about the church as a hole. What’s the story of JP 2 having a bit o fluff on the side. Never heard of that one. Pat why did ya bother with them ayjits hi. Sounds they were bored and extracting high quality urine at your expense hi

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    1. Good night hi fly.
      Begorra fly extracting high quality urine laced with G&T.
      Maybe the padres work so so hard on Sundays the rest of
      the week are recovery days to recharge with grub and booze.
      I suppose this bunch of chancers are funded by
      the baa baas…..the society of perpetual mugs.
      Bye bye fly hi.

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      1. Fly on Th Wall 2nd Dec 2019 — 11:00 pm

        Baa lugs hi filling the mugs that allow the pugs to bark and fart and whine😙🥳

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  11. Canon Matt Hep 1st Dec 2019 — 12:43 am

    Pat. not of your best pics. you look like you’ve been on the brandy…and speaking of brandy, I’ve ordered a few bottles for the Christmas.

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    1. Bishop Buckley 1st Dec 2019 — 11:06 am

      No Matt. That pic was taken at the beginning of the meal. But that is a G&T in front of me 😊

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  12. Imagine a world free of child-sexual molestors, Roman Catholic priests.
    What a world!😃

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    1. 1.05am: Magna, as a new day begins, 1st Sunday of Advent, allow God into your life. Be redeemed again: walk in the light of God’s ways. Don’t degrade yoyrself further. Please. Imagine a world free of Magna: the ultimate peace!

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  13. Father Buckley are you a member of SPT? The Good Lord would not stand idle hands.

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    1. No, I dont qualify.

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    2. Bishop Buckley 1st Dec 2019 — 11:07 am

      No. I never applied.

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    3. The Good Lord didn’t mind being idle himself, did he not? Wining and dining at different households, feasting, going off to places to be alone.

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      1. I think Jesus knew the importance of meals as opportunities to bond.

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  14. Joseph Lollard 1st Dec 2019 — 4:06 am

    Obviously you and your pals are having fun, Pat.
    But given the advanced age of so many of Ireland’s present priesthood a one-day working week would be sensible.
    And the dioceses would be better run if solicitors, accountants and similar were running church-properties and the the parishes; perhaps with the geriatric priesthood still saying the Masses but with the preaching and evangelisation contracted out to the Free Presbyterians.

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    1. The irony of an 80 year talking about geriatrics.
      Lol.

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      1. Joseph Lollard 1st Dec 2019 — 5:08 pm

        Sadly I know all too well what I’m talking about,

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    2. A quarter of “church of England” clergy are in their sixties and above.

      https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2016/3-june/news/uk/fewer-clergy-on-a-stipend-and-older

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    3. The Free Pees haven’t set Ulster ablaze.

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  15. Is this for real? Did these guys ever hear of sloth? Another reason to end clericalism. Shameful.

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    1. I agree with the sloth element but also gluttony too. Pat should name and shame these charlatans. They almost revel in doing nothing and only eat and drink and work one day a week – pigs the lot of them.

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  16. Are you ok Pat? You’ve lost some amount of weight!

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    1. I have lost a lot of weight. But I am fine. It’s down to extensive dental surgery in the first six months of this year and a flare up of bowel problems associated with coming off anti inflammatories. My dad also shed weight in his 60s.

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  17. Pat, while these layabouts wine and dine, spare a thought for us at the real coal face. Some of us don’t get a day off let alone six days as we are committed and dedicated to our people. We strive to serve them at all times not just some of the time. Yes, occasionally we get invited out for a meal but not all the time. This group seems a total disgrace and I hope and pray it doesn’t become the norm here.

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    1. Lilly the Pink 1st Dec 2019 — 2:30 pm

      10:44
      That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the GPI ( Good Priests of Ireland).😳

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  18. Can I recommend our priest to this SPR group, Fr McArdle of Moneymore. Usually seen out in the company of women (unusual I know) whilst out dining and socialising. To be found in places well outside his parish too.

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    1. Eamon can’t get him out of Moneymore. He has dug his heels in and everybody hates him.

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  19. Brian Darcy would seem the ideal candidate for this SPR. Meals out, after dinner speeches, functions, professional mourner, hijacker of celebrity funerals and weddings, driver of a big Merc (with big end), book launches, Easons darling, hogger of RTE and every TV and wireless station on the Island, ACP stalwart, sickener. It’s clear the SPR is meeting next in Enniskillen as D’Arcy is Enniskillen.

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    1. He didn’t get away with hijacking Gay Byrnes funeral!

      I played a small, behind the scenes, role in keeping Darcy in the pews that day.

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      1. You are wrong Buckley. Brian concelebrated the funeral of Gay. I hope to meet him at his book signing at Easons in Monaghan on 7th December. Nice man.

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      2. There were no concelebrants. It was televised.

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      3. Does Pat have Dermo under his thumb?
        I wonder

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      4. Darcy is a keener.
        keener
        /ˈkiːnə(r)/
        noun
        1. a person who wails or sings in grief for a dead person.
        “Fr Brian D’arcy led a team of five keeners which was hired to cry on the way to escort their father to the crematorium”

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  20. D’arcy lives in Crossgar not Enniskillen but he is in Fermanagh every other day. He pines for the Graan but the Graan has moved on…..all his cronies have left so it’s now all about what it should be – preaching the Word of God rather than a shrine to Brian D’arcy.

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    1. 12:32 No one has DM under their thumb. He is his own man.

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    2. He was the Pope of the Graan and loved by the auld dolls who still hope that the ban on married priests will be lifted in Brian’s lifetime.

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    3. All the D’Arcy fan club fled the Graan, Enniskillen, when he left. Fr Charlie, a Co. Down man took over and for the better. An unassuming man but forthright. They love him there. Have you heard of him Fr Pat?

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  21. Any sign of the PP of Newscastle on your travels Pat? He’s a bit of an enigma.

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    1. Bishop Buckley 1st Dec 2019 — 1:11 pm

      No sign, but apparently he dines in that Italian all the time, even alone.

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    2. MournemanMichael 1st Dec 2019 — 3:26 pm

      And the people down in Newcastle still have nothing to show from the money acquired by the RCC from sale of the redundant school site to LIDL against the wishes of the majority of locals supporting their council to build a much needed leisure centre.
      Maybe the PP can afford to dine there on his cut!
      MMM

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      1. MYOB, you didn’t pay a washer into the parish.

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      2. 3.26: Mick the Mourne-ful: Are you still on yoir barstool drinking to vomitup this piece of shit? MYOB: You should stop interfering in things you know nothing about and since you are an avowed atheist, your comments on all things Catholic are irrelevant and superfluous.

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      3. Yawn. Fake news and vitriol! MMM, once again you are incorrect about the sale of the old school site. Please use the freedom of information act to get the minutes of council meetings and you will see they had no real intention of offering an amount that would have been acceptable within charity laws. The money was used to refurbish Bryansford Hall which is extensively used by the whole community. Pop in sometime for a cup of tea!

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      4. MournemanMichael 1st Dec 2019 — 8:15 pm

        You: @ 3:48, 4:59 & 5:04, possibly the same, are probably the sort of gullible docile sheep the RC church loves having to “pay up and shut up”.
        5:04: “an amount acceptable within charity laws!” Catch yourself on! There’s no such “law” requiring external interference in such a transaction. It was widely known locally and reported in the press, that the parish verbally agreed to a selling price to the council, then gave back-word on that to sell to LIDL
        Considering that the land was originally donated from the Annesley estate for the “good of the town”, many people down there still feel very sore about the whole shoddy affair. I know several former parishioners who have since opted to have nothing to do with that PP or his church and ceased their regular contributions to the RC church.
        MMM

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  22. Pat Buckley, my friend has returned from 12 Mass in Magherafelt and told me that the PP, Fr Gates, couldn’t reach the Advent wreath (he is a short ass and suffers from small man syndrome) to light the candle. He pulled a chair and stood on the chair (Fact) to light the candle. You couldn’t make it up.

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    1. Oh dear God Pat, who is this Fr Gates that you report who stood on a chair to light an advent wreath. Sounds like a total numpty. I hear Patsy McGarry is already on the story courtesy of your blog.

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    2. You’d think John Gates would be more careful. When he was Senior Sacristan of Maynooth, his undersacristan Iomar Daniels (Clonfert) lifted the still lit college chapel Paschal candle out of its candlestick and a stream of molten wax went down his back, ruining his soutane.

      Luckily, Iomar was uninjured, but Sr Regis, Mistress of Linens and an enemy of Fr Gates, blamed him rather than Iomar, because Iomar had been given the task because Mgr Gates couldn’t reach it.

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      1. It”s a well known fact that Johnny Gates bullied Sr Regis in Maynooth, he remains a bully with small man mentality. Interesting that he was chosen to be the bully Secretary of the biggest bully Cardinal Cahal Daly. Bullies attract. Is this a coincidence??

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      2. Small man Gates is no Mgr and never has been. He wants Canon and is holding out for it. Sad pathetic little short ass from Coalisland. How is his local boyfriend btw McEniff. Have they been in Donegal recently??

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      3. More of these stories please from my time in Maynooth.

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  23. @1.16pm Canon Peter, he looks, sounds and breathes Church of Ireland. His curate is the total opposite and would be an appropriate mannequin for Gammereli in Rome.

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    1. Peter O’Reilly allowed the Enniskillen Kirk minister an interview in the parish newsletter, in which the Prod came out with personal Saviour horseshite, had a pop at the Vatican and said doctrinal differences meant that there couldn’t be joint ministry and mission with the RCs.

      Among parishoners that went down as badly as a fart in a spacesuit or a Bishop Larry Duffy Pastoral Letter.

      http://www.saintmichaels-parish.com/nlt/pdf/2016December.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiz9cLy1pTmAhWeUhUIHZvEB_0QFjAHegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw0gEh3gNETu69DP2cLg3e6D

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    2. His curate is a total bitch…..runs the parish his own way, and runs rings around Canon Peter.

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  24. Twisted sister 1st Dec 2019 — 3:10 pm

    Excellent idea, let the priests have the whole week off except for Sundays. No worries for food, money or housing – that’s where seminarians come handy; let them provide the priests with food, money and of course “personal comfort and security”. If they don’t it only means they don’t have a vocation to the priesthood, plus haven’t as strong belief in God as needed.

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  25. Bishop Larry, I hear, is a humble and gentle man. He’s was a humble PP. They love him in Clogher. Can someone highlight what diocese in the world where 3 living bishops live in the same diocese. Larry is like new diocesan bishops should be like. Not an import or export. Armagh and Derry for the last few appointments is a good example.

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    1. Southwark has three bishops living in the diocese (and for a short while it was four).

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      1. We are not talking about auxiliaries here in terms of proper bishops in a diocese. Southwark always was awash with them. Sad diocese. Sad auxiliaries.

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      2. 5.54pm I thought you meant diocesan bishops (present and past). I was talking about Bowen, McDonald, Smith and Wilson.

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    2. It is not the bishop’s job to be nice and gentle. Although nobody bothers to read the actual conciliar documents, Vatican II reaffirmed that bishops are to teach, sanctify and govern. This effete “Bishop Tony” crap came from the Anglicans, naturally.
      http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19651028_christus-dominus_en.html

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      1. A bishop should be a loving father. A father must set boundaries and indeed impose discipline. But above all else he must love, encourage, inspire and protect.

        I have never experienced an RC bishop as a true father 😥

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    3. Yes. The diocese of Galloway in Scotland has 3 bishops residing. Taylor and Cunningham, both emeritus and Nolan, present bishop

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  26. How do Dermo, Noel Treanor and Vincent Nichols satisfy the requirement in canon law that a bishop may not be absent from his diocese for a total of a month. With trips to Rome, Brussels, Africa, Valladolid, Maynooth and holidays in caravans it’s hard to see how they do it.
    Can. 395 §1. Even if a diocesan bishop has a coadjutor or auxiliary, he is bound by the law of personal residence in the diocese.
    §2. Apart from ad limina visits, councils, synods of bishops, conferences of bishops which he must attend, or some other duty legitimately entrusted to him, he can be absent from his diocese for a reasonable cause but not beyond a month, whether continuous or interrupted, and provided that he makes provision so that the diocese will suffer no detriment from his absence.
    §3. He is not to be absent from the diocese on Christmas, during Holy Week, and on Easter, Pentecost, and the Feast of the Body and Blood of Christ, except for a grave and urgent cause.
    §4. If a bishop has been illegitimately absent from the diocese for more than six months, the metropolitan is to inform the Apostolic See of his absence; if it concerns the metropolitan, the senior suffragan is to do so.

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  27. 5.27: Pat, are you saying that you epitomize a loving, caring template as a supposed good bishop, for call bishops to emulate? If So, you are delusional and arrogant. There’s little of Christ’s humility in your behaviour towards all whom you hold in hateful disdain. Get a grip…

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    1. I am saying nothing of the sort.

      It is for those to whom I am a bishop to make that judgement

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  28. 7.05: Stop making generalised judgments about other clerics. It’s the season of Advent and you, Pat, like all clerics, are called to “walk in the light of God’s ways…”. We are all in need of God’s mercy.

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  29. @6.14pm You are talking shite you fool. Bowen is dead. You don’t know anything about Southwark, do you?

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    1. @6.14pm I was referring to my original post of 4.57pm which was challenged by 5.54. Yes I do know about Southwark and yes I know that Bowen is dead.
      You are the rude fool by taking one comment out of context.

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  30. 8.15: MMM – Mournful Mick: You’re still sitting on your bar stool! Ranting and raving with your usual anti Catholic venom. Shut up. It would be interesting to know what your “good without god” philosophy inspired you to do for the good, betterment and well being of your community. Tell us and then you might allow yourself the freedom to condemn all others. I am a Catholic. I profess my faith with the gathered community every Sunday. I am not docile but I am faithful to what I am called to be as a follower of Christ. I don’t need your scorn or ridicule….then Christ did say that we would be mocked because we bear his NAME.. Remember these words 9f Jesus, Mournful Mick….Get off your high stool.

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    1. Lilly the Pink 1st Dec 2019 — 9:08 pm

      Don’t flatter yourself trying to portray yourself as a modern day martyr. 😆
      The issue MMM raised is of public interest requiring accountability.😳

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      1. It’s of interest to some members of the public but not in the public interest to have Guinness-upped athiests sticking their oar in on subjects they know nothing about.
        MMM should stick to his usual caper of looking at vids of Wonersh sems working out instead of opining on internal parish matters.

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      2. 9.08: Lily, go piss elsewhere. MMM will let you use his loo….

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      3. MournemanMichael 2nd Dec 2019 — 12:25 am

        Thank you Lily.
        It’s revealing in showing the mindset and limitations of some when they engage in vitriolic personal attacks rather than debate the issue. Their rants are best ignored.
        MMM

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      4. MournemanMichael 2nd Dec 2019 — 7:12 pm

        It seems obvious that Anon@9:51, in referring to the public interest and “talking about something they know nothing about” him or herself knows little of the public interest issue at the heart of the RCC sale of the redundant Newcastle school site.
        Had 9:51 read the local papers at the time, h/she would have read that the relevant land was donated by the former owners, the Annesley estate,for the benefit of the citizens of Newcastle: ALL the citizens, not just the RCs. It was somehow “acquired” by the RCC which built a school on the site. Many years later, when the school became redundant 3/4 years ago, the RCC/PP agreed to sell the land to the local council to build a much needed leisure centre/swimming pool complex on what was seen as an ideal site. But the RCC then reneaged and sold the site to Lidl, reportedly at a higher price: money counts with RCC hierarchy! So it seems, at least according to 9:51, that those good folks’ needs down in Newcastle, people of all faiths and none, is not up for debate in the public interest, and only an “internal parish matter.”
        Typical cradle catholic/RC clerical outlook and arrogance. (Irrespective of whether 9:51 is a cleric or not)
        MMM

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