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GETTING MY GDPR DATA FROM DUBLIN, WATERFORD AND DOWN AND CONNOR.

DUBLIN

My experience with Dublin has been as perfect as I can imagine.The data officer, Noelle Dowling has been the essence professionalism, courtesy and efficiency. She is the kind of data officer every diocese should have.In addition Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, who has been personally involved in my request has shown total transparency and integrity.Because Clonliffe seminary minutes are held in bound volumes they are not covered by GDPR regulations.But Diarmuid Martin instructed Noelle to send ne them anyway.Here is transparency beyond the letter of the law and embracing the spirit of the law. I sent DM the following email today:

Dear Diarmuid,

Noelle Dowling, on your instructions, sent me a transcript of the Clonliffe seminary Council meetings where I was mentioned even though bound volumes are not covered by GDPR.

I want to thank you for your total transparency in these matters

If course I had already come to the conclusion of your transparency and integrity on the basis of your handing over of the diocesan abuse files to the courts and on your handling of the Maynooth and Irish College issues.

But I do need to thank you.

Mind you, reading those minutes made me cringe at my immaturity at the time. My only consolation is that you would expect 1970 18 / 19 year olds to be immature.

Importantly to me,I was pleased that the Clonliffe president Bishop Joe Carroll reported that morally, I was beyond reproach.

Now that I have all the information I have I can understand that my expulsion from Clonliffe was done in good faith.

Pat

For 47 years I did not know the reasons for my expulsion from Clonliffe. Today I do.I was expelled because they felt I was immature. They saw this immaturity in me showing itself in me giving spiritual advice to younger seminarians, reporting homosexuality in a youth club I had a placement in and not observing house rules. It also seemed that there were a small number of senior seminarians who regarded me as unsuitable to be involved in open vocation days.At the time there were 120 of us in Clonliffe. Seminarians were ten a penny and one or two were expelled every year in order to straighten up the troops. The other fellow expelled with me that year was expelled for being too pious.Anyway, I believe in Providence and therefore I believe that God had a part in it all. God knows what I would have become if I stayed in the RCC?And its better to be expelled for giving spiritual guidance to the 1st years than being kept in and taking the 1st years to bed!

WATERFORDI applied to Phonsie’s data officer Michelle O’Riordan.Surprisingly for me, Phonsie’s girl also operated transparency and I got my whole file from St. John’s College Waterford – 1973 – 1976.The file is very positive and of course I got on well there and was put forward for ordination.There was a glowing report from the PP in Cardiff I had done my diaconate placement with – Canon Philip Dwyer.

Page 3 – pic not uploading”priests of today are doing their best to do away with the collar and appear in all kinds of fancy clothing, some go as far as saying the collar will be done away with all together. Pat Buckley is not of this opinion and this tradition should be emphasised to him in his final months with you”

My email to Phonsie

Dear Phonsie,I doubt if you and I will ever be on each others Christmas card lists.But I wanted to commend and thank you for the transparency I experienced when I applied to your data protection officer when I applied for my stored data at Waterford.My years in Waterford and St John’s were among the happiest of my life.John Shine was one of the best friends I ever had.Pat

DOWN AND CONNOR
SUBJECT ACCESS REQUEST REFERENCE: DP/SAR/B1/19I confirm that we have carried out a search within the Diocesan records and archives and I have endeavoured to identify information held which directly or indirectly relates to you and therefore, may fall within the remit of a subject access request. I have prepared the following table to summarise my enquiries: –

MY REPLY:

Dear Data Access,

I am happy to receive the documents from section one scanned.

I have received all.my data from two other Irish diocese and they contained all my correspondence with the bishop and archbishop!

Can I ask you for FULL disclosure please?

I reserve the right to appeal to the Data Commioner.

Bishop Pat Buckley

176 replies on “GETTING MY GDPR DATA FROM DUBLIN, WATERFORD AND DOWN AND CONNOR.”

Pat you are a fool and easily pleased. Keep Pat happy, Martin says in Dublin. That’s Martin’s philosophy. The result is Pat is happy. Have you not heard the term Martin favours most, ‘Maniplation’. You’ve just fallen into it. He’s done the same with M J .

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Gorgeous could challenge Diarmuid Martin too Pat Buckley. He needs to wake up and let the truth be known. For the sake of transparency.

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DM is hated because he bucks the trend. He does not engage in manipulation as does his enemies. Shame on you 10:34 pm.

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Gannon asked for a simple clarification from the Archbishop re: The Irish College. He did not do which allowed a false story to be perpetuated.
The Irish Catholic
“It is understood that the men have pleaded with the Rector of the Irish College Msgr O’Carroll to issue a statement to set the record straight about what they describe as “lies” in the media. However, the rector has declined to do so and Archbishop Martin has also refused to issue a similar statement.“

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A priest I know in Dublin says that Byrne “naively looks up to Archbishop Martin”. He will not criticise or allow anything negative to be said of him. I assure readers that these men care for each other and have each others best interests at heart. Diarmuid is protecting Byrne from his biggest abuser to date – Bishop Pat Buckley.

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Dermo always loved Gorgeous. Everyone witnessed that he was his favourite…by far. The jealously was rife in the Archdiocese.

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Why don’t M Byrne and C Gannon publish their GDPR docs here? Anonymous comments can be made by anyone.

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9.09am: What a ludicrous suggestion! Throw them into a lion’s den….that would make you very happy I’m sure. Nonsense.

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Gorgeous got a free house and a 60k salary for the rest of his life. If I got that I would be quiet too 😂😇🙏

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After reading the very small amount of files (you choose to release) it all amounts to YOU. Everything revolves around YOU. Tell us no more thanks. It’s all about YOU.

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Anonymous 10:56am and +Pat at at 11pm
Them comments have just made me howl +Pat 🤣🤣

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Please stop the canonization of Diarmuid – it’s nauseating. Talk to the way he treats his clergy – enough said. This supposed bromance between him and you
Buckley is hysterical. Auld Diarmuid knows how to press the right buttons. He is a diplomat after all, Belgium hate him after he shafted them at the EU. Sounds like he shafted you too Buckley. Diplomacy is an art where you Fuck somebody whilst trying to be their friend. Learn please Bucko.

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This could all back fire on Diarmuid if the people he “fucked” come together and give him a taste of his own medicine.
Just saying

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Pat is entitled to receive all information about him which were kept by different institutions. That’s his right. After that I don’t see the relevance of publicising the received information. All the personnel who communicated with Pat are to be commended for their professionalism, as are the Bishops. Incidentally Pat, I was in Clonliffe not long after your time and I was never brought to anyone’s bed nor was anyone brought to mine. The buzz words were personal responsibility with a great deal of regular supervision about progress, study, prayer, lectures, pastoral work, integration within college community, readiness to take initiatives and carry out given tasks.. Those days were mostly good, contented and happy times until the final two years when after five long years, seminary life was boring and I felt ready for the world. I’m tempted to do what you did and seek all information. Hope the information you received affirms your self belief.

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Pat is being used by Dermo. It’s such a laugh. It’s the way Dermo plays people. It’s a clever move. Buckley has been the latest victim. Reverse psychology. Clever move. Buckley, an idiot, swallowed it.

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Diarmuid Martin I know you read this blog daily. Here is my message to you.

I just want to say that I and many others of the Archdiocese are disappointed by your outrageous behaviour. You regularly ignore our correspondence and petitions for help yet, you respond regularly to Pat Buckley and his desires. He says “jump” and you say “how high?”. Your behaviour is noticed by Paul Callan, Joseph Merrick and a host of staff around you in your house. You may have won Pat’s admiration for now, but I ask at what cost? Where are your seminarians all gone? Where is your dignity? Where is your integrity? Where is your leadership? Who runs the diocese?

This relationship you have with Pat Buckley is strange, vile and highly questionable. Your behaviour and engagement with him only raises questions about your moral standing and ability to lead. Are you trying to save yourself? Fr. Paul Taylor would like to think so. He tells many a tale about your escapades in Rome. The holidays, the parties, the young men you kept around you. Oh yes Dermott, it would seem there is plenty to blog about you.

Retirement did not save McCarrick and it won’t save you either. Judas sold his soul for 30 pieces of silver, you sold it for much less.

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Brilliant comment. Dermo is trying yo keep Pat on side so his dirty laundry is not publicly aired.
Did Paul Taylor ever respond Pat?

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Dublin priests are gentlemen, in my experience. They are mischaracterized by tattlers here, who accuse them of tattling.

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1.09am: What a horrible, nasty priest you are! Have you ever spoken at deanery meetings and other fora to express your revulsion at A.B. Martin? Probably not and never will. Coward. I have some respect for the A.B and have made known my views to him on many occasions. Are you a failed careerist? Your views are an abhorrent betrayal of all of us because I guarantee that you wouldn’t have the courage to say these things to the A. B’s face.

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I agree. Priests who are unhappy with DM should tackle him personally.

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2.16: I agree with you. This ‘priest’, as I said earlier, is probably a failed careerist, been snubbed in some way, left in a parish as just a ‘co-p.p’ and is angry. D. Martin will respect you more if you challenge him and express your mind openly and strongly. So if Father 1970 has any courage he will speak at deaneries, gatherings or face to face with The Archbishop. Father, like the rest of humanity, get in with your work and do what we’re suppose to be doing. My sister’s and brothers don’t look for pity and sympathy when things go wring: they work them out and have no options except to keep on giving, loving, sacrificing and caring. Fr….Fr.. Fr….go to Craggy Island. Please.

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The bit about getting your own meal and being refused access to their houses by the renegades of the parish is hilarious.
The Down and Connor response is
On one hand to be expected because of your extensive involvement in all sorts of matters
On the other hand ridiculous because are we seriously to believe any bishop does his own filing? 🤣

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Pat, DM is the only Irish Bishop who oposses the Michael Mullaney gay network. DM took action against Byrne and Derwin, Mullaney is quoted over drinks ‘how dare he’. DM must help in the Maynooth full disclosure of all abuse allegations, historic and recent.

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The offical Public response of Michael Mullaney during a rectors talk, A Raphoe Seminarian during the talk requested a open discussion on what was exposed in the blog, Mullaney quickly repsonded in a threatening tone , ‘there is nothing to discuss’ . The policy to protect his network is denial, cover up and place these individuals in powerful clerical positions. What position will Mullaney have for Mark Moriarty and Stephen Wilson. Now never forget the Bitch fight Mullaney verses Bishop Tom (Meath) over who could have more special time with Kevin McElory.

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Regarding Chris Derwin
“The Echo understands that a number of parishioners were in the house at the time of the violent raid, which saw Father Chris threatened at knifepoint and forced to hand over his television and a number of personal items, such as his wallet, phone, watch and music player.
Father Chris was then forced against his will to get into his own car and drive the raider and the stolen items away from the scene in Maplewood, Springfield, to Kilmartin in Fettercairn – where the raider got out of the car with the stolen items and fled on foot.“

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The Archbishop of Dublin, Dr Diarmuid Martin, is standing by remarks he made recently that being gay should not mean a man could not become a priest.
In an interview published in the current issue of the English Catholic weekly, The Tablet, Dr Martin is quoted as saying “you don’t write off a candidate for the priesthood simply because he is a gay man”.

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Scotland’s finance secretary quits hours before budget amid claims he messaged a 16-year-old Altar boy on social media.

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Absolutely correct. The Finance Secretary is not even a Catholic never mind RC. Absolutely no relevance to this post. He has a male partner after leaving his wife and two children. The post at 8.25am is just smutty.

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I presume you are the same anonymous poster at 8.25am. “First KOB”. Nothing to do with any Church let alone the RCC in Scotland. He is a non-Catholic. It certainly is a shocker for the SNP. It is not the only scandal brewing in the SNP.

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10.07: In your deep reservoir of knowledge, information, insight and wisdom, do tell us about the toxic pot of poison or are you stuck at the bottom of the pot????

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wisdom, information, insight and knowledge are not needed, just reading the comments here 11:18

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Bear in mind 10:07 there could be only a few originators behind most of the comments here today. Anonymous comments are meaningless and most of the time indicate cowardice.

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I do not hold any brief for Conor Gannon but I think he is entitled to have the rector of The Irish College make a statement about why he left or was asked to leave.

It took me 47 years to find out why I was asked to leave Clonliffe in 1973. I achieved this because DM released information to me that he was not bound to release.

Natural justice demands that people be told the reasons for disciplinary action against them.

I would be happy to hand over this blog for a day to Conor Gannon to clarify and seek clarification.

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Gorgeous was spotted recently at Archbishops house. He looks good and healthy. He lost weight too. I wonder why he was around?! He is back from Cork anyway.

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DM is just showing pastoral care for Gorgeous. That is DM’s compassionate way. It’s what I’d expect him to do.

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Of course I do. I offered my support once and would offer it again. But that does not mean I approve of everything he has done.

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Dermot Martin is probably thinking that the fact you got your GDPR docs released is revolting however it will set you free to enter into a lovely relationship with Pete Buttigieg.

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Pat

You and Gorgeous were made for each other. Two sick fags who have no business in the priesthood. Period.

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11.33: Repressed, compressed, depressed, oppressed, closeted, faggotted…..Pat, aren’t some freaks wonderful at finding words to define our sexuality. Those who have yet to be honest about their sexuality are the most viciously, intolerable fucks who secretly yearn for a bit on the (bottom) side….and probably get it!!

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11.33: To us your terminology suggests that you are a mental retard. How utterly ignorant. I suspect you have yet to fall out of the closet or be cut loose from mommy’s apron strings!! Grow up.

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Any personal correspondence between you and the bishop of Down and Conor that was of a professional/work-related content would have been between you and the Bishop in his professional capacity as managing director of the diocese (ordinarily a limited company in State law).

For the Diocese to allow such communication to be transferred to a bishop in their personal capacity means that the diocese, as a legal entity, has failed in their duty of care as a data controller. I would encourage you to report this leaked information to the UK’s data commissioner forthwith and see to it that the Diocese is prosecuted and fined.

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I did write to three D&C bishops about diocesan matters, diocesan personnel etc. They were not personal letters between two individuals.

Daly, Walsh and Treanor.

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As I thought. These should not have been taken by these individuals from their work office into their personal abodes. Would I go too far in guessing that such may be white collar crime? It certainly demonstrates poor data governance.

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You are some fool, Pat, if you think that Coddle Martin has anything other than the utmost contempt for you behind all his facade.

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All I can say is that I have never experienced contempt from him. Quite the opposite. I’ll judge DM on my communications with him and not on the claims of an anonymous comment maker.

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Yeah you do that, Buck. It’s quite revealing though – you’re willingness to “judge” Dermo favourably. It indicates how, deep down, you crave recognition from so called “official” Catholicism.

You question why so many Dublin priests have real difficulties about DM? For the exact same reasons you excoriate 99% of other bishops – his coldness, snobbery, disengagement, no leadership, rudeness and bad manners, lack of consideration and basic care, crassness – and so on and so on.

DM is a slick operator and a skilled manipulator – not a pastor. You often criticise bishops and priests for “not believing in God”? Well look no further Buck than your best buddy Dermo.

Interesting though about you and him – another indication of Pat’s narcissism. Pat’s perception is infallible and, everyone else who has a problem with DM? Too bad. It must be their problem – nothing to do with St Dermo, the pastor extraordinaire.

But how wrong you are. Behind it all, Dermo wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.

At another level, you both have this in common: it’s all about Diarmuid; and it’s all about Pat!

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I do not crave recognition by the RC. I do not want to be part of it. Simple.

Why dont those priests get together and challenge DM publicly?

Have they no balls?

I have no reason to believe DM is an atheist or agnostic. If he is its shocking.

I am absolutely fallible but want the freedom to speak as I believe.

Your comments about me are all ad hominem. That’s not bright.

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You regularly swallow, hook, line and sinker, the claims of anonymous comment makers like “Magna Carta”.

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I have just read through the Down and Connor response and am quite surprised that their “experts” seem not to understand either the spirit of the legislation or the legislation itself. In your correspondence with these bishops I take it that you wrote to them in their capacity as s diocesan manager. If so then this data should NEVER be taken nor should it be stored in a bishops personal correspondence. I also note that they have not released emails nor contemporaneous notes where you are the subject. It would appear that D&C have looked at ways not to release your information rather than ways to release your information. Your second email to them should be classed as a review and they should have written to you and acknowledged receipt of your email. Their action, thus far are not very surprising, given that that diocese feels it is above civil law. If they don’t release your information in full then you need to prepare a full and comprehensive complaint to the ICO. It’s time the minions in D&C were brought to book for their non compliance with statutory legislation. Bishop bling may not think so but he is subject to civil law as well and so are his minions. This diocese is a sick joke

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Buckley, Mikey Jack Byrne wouldn’t trust you with the smell of one of his farts – never mind his “story”.

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I am not asking his trust. I was asked if I wished him well. In my one and only communication with him he lied to me.

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4:59pm’s comments – even if they are untrue, if I was Ab DM I would be horrified that such is the perception.

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5.08: So M. Byrne lied to you..Really? FFS, Buckley, leave him alone. You are harassing him at this stage. You have a fetish for him. I imagine you fantasize about this good looking hunk. Don’t you have a young man to keep you company? Are you fed up with him that the name of Byrne spins you into overdrive fantasy.

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I do not find Georgeous attractive. He is not my type at all. He has already began to lose his good looks and that process will accelerate.

My partner is 42.

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5.53: So Pat, you don’t find M. Byrne attractive? Don’t believe you? He may not be your type: that’s amazing! Thiught you had a keen eye for the young, slimline, good looking blokes. I bet when he’s your age, he’ll be a fab, balding, attractive hunk! Each to his own. Good luck.

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6.17: Pat, are you suggesting you have inner beauty? You obviously accept that aging is a bad bitch!! If inner beauty is present, itvwill shine thriugh the language, wirds and kundness of ithers. Don’t think your words flow like the poetry of beauty!!

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The Pride Society (LGBTQ+) had a great collection of Michael’s pics. A former Chair of the Society had such a kink for him, that he set up a secret sub-group dedicated to Michael. Half his stalkers were from Pride Society. He was affectionately known as “Daddy”. The poor guy would have been pounded on if he set foot among them 😂 God only knows what they would have done to him 😂

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If Byrne was involved in a homosexual sex scandal at Maynooth (especially in a coercive way), was he working with males in Cork University Hospital?

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6.31

Another selfie by Byrne.

It does not look as though he learned much, nor matured at all, since his alledgedly inglorious days at Maynooth.

He is still the centre of his constricted little world.

He is a fool. And he should never be ordained priest.

If DM is offering pastoral care to this man in preparation for priesthood, he is wasting his time, and showing exceedingly poor judgement.

And who posted the selfie on this blog? Byrne himself? Or one of those to whom he posted his selfie to let them marvel at how good-looking he thinks he is?

People are being conned by this charlatan.

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The CUH chaplains are listed on the Cork diocesan website as Fathers Buckley, Lyons and Forde. No Gorgeous.

Did the new bishop, former chancellor of Dublin slip him in the back door – even on request from DM?

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Pat

He did a chaplaincy course. He is not the chaplain. He is back in Dublin now.

Magna, do not be so bitter and mean. The guy done nothing to you.

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Ok. But if he is still promoting himself with selfies he is bringing the attention on himself. He played a major role in the Maynooth crisis.

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Pat,

This might be news to you but all young people take selfies. Look at facebook, instagram, twitter etc. Your generation might not understand it but they all do it. It is apart of modern culture. It is not fair to negatively label this guy for doing what young people do.

People are very judgemental on this blog and do not give this guy any slack. I feel sorry for him that people take his pictures and post them on public sites like imgur. He has been through enough.

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I know all about the modern selfie thing. Michael is somewhat notorious and perhaps he should not give people anything to use. There is a time for speaking out and a time for silence.

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8.50

I am not bitter, nor do I wish to be mean.

If Byrne had clearly turned a corner in his life, personally and spiritually, I should give him credit. But his habit of endlessly taking selfies suggests, at best, a preoccupation with his looks that is inappropriate for priesthood, or, at worst, full-blown narcissism. How many other habits of his remain unbroken?

The toughtest discipline is that of the self, and Byrne seems to be not even ready to consider its necessity.

I do not believe that this man has learned anything, nor wishes to learn anything. I believe he is being cynical and exploitative all over again.

He is taking people for fools.

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I’m sorry to say Magna, you might be right. I think MB is a gay gigilo. That does not lead to happiness.

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To be fair Magna,

You referred to yourself as a slim, young, blue-eyed boy in seminary. You revelled in that image of yourself. You equally play up to a narcissistic image of yourself on this blog. Your comments have no weight to them, they come across as juvenile rather than someone with genuine valid real concern.

Taking a selfie is not a crime and should not be treated as so.

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8.41: Mags, how many of your noticeable habits remain unbroken? Like your unstoppable hatred for priests. You are jealous that your crap was found out as a seminarian, warrantingnyour expulsion. Rage, anger, immaturity, stunted psychological growth now define your pitiable existence. 😆😆😆😆😆🐱🐱🐱🐱♿♿♿♿♿..Let yourself freewheel down the mountain. 😄😄😄😄🤣🤣🤣😁😉🐱🐱🍋🍋🍌🍌 or suck bananas… 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌

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8.54

To be fair? Really?

My describing myself in that way was not for its own sake, but to help me make points about Maynooth, of which the most recent concerned Professor Ronan Drury.

As for my alleged revelling in this description, you got that from your imagination, not from anything I posted here.

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Re. “Magna Carta” – NOTHING it says about itself is true.
Someone with a lot of time on his hands has invented this “Magna Carta” identity and hides behind it to say things he wouldn’t get away with in “real life”.
He could claim to have had long tall hair and curly teeth, when he was in seminary, if another whim had taken him.
The one thing not made up is that the person behind “Magna Carta” was in the seminary and is now an ex cleric or even a serving priest. After that it’s anyone’s guess.
The “slim, blond, blue-eyes” thing? Total fantasy. The author of the “Magna” posts fancies that type of young male.

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Supprised your complaint to Cahal Daly isn’t in there afrer what his “St. Vincent McKinley” did to you, that is a matter for the Diocese not Daly personally it is also a matter for your personal safeguarding

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Lay people do the CPE course. Byrne did this course – not as a deacon – but as a lay person. He will never minister in the church as a deacon or a priest.

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If Byrne was involved in a homosexual-sex ring at Maynooth in a coercive and/or manipulative way, then he should not, under any circumstances, be around males in hospital in any official capacity; being ill would make them particularly vulnerable to control and manipulation.

I keep thinking here of what Jimmy Saville did on his hospital visits.

Was any investigation of Byrne undertaken by hospital authorities? How was he vetted? Was he vetted? Or was he placed on the CPE course through RCC manipulation and pressure? These are very serious questions, given Byrne’s alleged behaviour at Maynooth.

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8.50: The Bitch is back. “Alleged” behaviour as distinct from your obnoxious, known crappy behaviour, a dysfunctionality which, when spotted, ensure you were flipped out on your arse from Maynooth. You poisonous viper. I’d have M.B. any day by my side to your smelly, putrid, vile presence.

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All people who work in the HSE are Garda vetted. This would suggest there is nothing to indicate he is a danger to anyone. Rumours are rumours, facts are facts Magna

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8.50: Mr. Carta, go and discover truth for yourself about M. B. instead of going on innuendo, speculation, gossip, rumour and lies by many on this blog. You have prefaced some comments with “if” and “alleged” ….. Search for the TRUTH.

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I’ve never seen any proof of the lurid allegations against M. J. Byrne. It does feel like a coven of creepy frustrated homosexuals taking it out on a nice young man who resisted their overtures.

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That’s a bit naughty, Magna!
He is a young man and has NOT been accused of any inappropriate behaviour involving any vulnerable persons. Nowhere near!
He is always smiling and would, in my opinion, be a delightful sight on a hospital ward.
Hospital ministry is extremely difficult and demanding work, constantly on your feet, back and forth to the chapel and wards.
Just the right environment for a young priest or chaplain who is still growing and learning.
And even if he is, or were, actively gay – which I believe to be Nobodies business – it is NOT a crime.
Our young seminarians and priests are Human beings; we are all constantly growing, learning and spiritually aspiring to be ‘just that bit holier.’
Leave the poor kid alone and let him get on with his ministry. Good luck to the lad.

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8.57

Rumours are rumours?😞

Until they are shown to be facts.😐

That no one at the moment can see a smoking gun does not necessarily mean that there is none.

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Magna,
You of all people should be understanding. You are attacked daily on this blog. The information shared is not always true just because an anonymous person thinks they know what you are up to. Inferring a guy is a danger to men because he is gay is wrong. People have always highlighted MB’s pastoral strengths on this blog. I am happy he is using his skills in a different but related field. I wish him well.
Cut the guy a little slack

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9.05: Magna, all personnel who wirk for HSE are indeed vetted. This is an indication that there is no record of a seriiys abuse ofmr misdeed of any kind to render a person unsuitable. Bet you’ve not been Garda or PSNI vetted! You’d never be allowed near children or vulnerable people. Your behaviour on this blog is evidence enough of your unsuutability for work with fragile, vulnerable people. Look at your own life, dearie Carta.

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9.16

I resent your saying that I think Byrne a danger to men just because he is gay.

You have no idea how many young gay people I have helped; some from committing suicide. How many of their parents I have helped reconcile themselves to their children’s being as God intended them to be.

Being gay makes no one a danger to anyone else. Others say or imply this: Michael Voris, for one. It is a reason I loathe this self-righteous, hypocritical bastard; not the only one, but a major reason. And it is a reason I am totally opposed to barring gay candidates from seminary. If you regularly look in on this blog, you’ll know I am speaking the truth here.

I have NEVER focused on Michael Byrne’s being gay; my concern, only and always, was allegations about his conduct. Nothing more.

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I agree Magna but they are allegations. People have made allegations about you on this blog. It is important to keep perspective here.

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9.29: What are you so defensive, Magna? You judge M. B. on his gay sexuality. You are a horrible, unkind and nasty person. You have zero tolerance for others who are different and who challenge your prejudices and hatred. Allegations, when unproven or validated should not be a basis for your assessment of any person. You should just shut the f**k up. Grow up, you fool. Are you a closeted gay???

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9.29: Fantasy land….Magna. What professional training have you received to be in a situation to give empathetic caring, listening and guidance to young people, parents and families? I have attended a series of seminars and training days for clergy, pastoral workers and chaplains and I know there is a particular skill, presence, caring and listening required when working with very vulnerable people. Your behaviour, viciousness, harshness of judgment, obvious, irrational mindset, craziness and vulgarity would suggest to many of us your unsuitability in pastoral work of any kind.

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9.44

They are not just allegations; they are serious allegations. And they appear not to have been taken seriously at all. There was no investigation of them, to my knowledge.

If you are seeking perspective, you would express concern at this lack.

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They were not investigated because they originated on this blog by anonymous people. Magna, you kinda need to have real victims to warrant an investigation by the Garda….like ehhh… actual evidence. My understanding is that no one has ever come forward to accuse him.

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9.45

I’m being defensive? Of whom?

And I’m judging Byrne on his ‘gay sexuality’?

Take time out from your moronicity, you bleating fool. And use it educationally… by reading my post at 9.29.

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Priests and Deacons do CPE. It is not only for lay people. To work in a hospital the HSE requires it for all chaplains.

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9.40
I qualified some comments of mine with those words, yes; but not just because I was seeking truth, but because I was being just in the interest of truth. (You’re not ‘getting’ this, are you?😞)
Shall I tell you another truth? One closer to home (yours, not mine)?
The truth (and it’s a bloody depressing one) that some commentors here, despite their being adults, require still to be spoonfed. 😕
Why, people just like you!😕

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Hey Pat,

I would like to clarify some things.

1. MB is not hiding from you or anyone else. He is still on social media. He never left.That picture is from one of his accounts.
2. Taking a selfie does not mean he is “gigolo”.
3. You said you wished him well today. You said you were happy he is receiving support. Now you are back on the witch hunt because he took a selfie. Say what you want, you are not going to bully or break his will.

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Byrnes picture now has 220 views!!! I don’t care what anyone says. He is beautiful. Them eyes, hair, sultry look. I cannot believe this guy wants to be a priest. He could be a model. 😍😍😍

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Sore finga hi. Everyone on the soapbox tonight. Maybe blog should be called loose collars-the clerical dimension but

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