THE IRISH JESUITS – A CRITIQUE.

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YESTERDAY I RECEIVED THIS CTITIQUE OF THE IRISH JESUITS.

“Dear Pat,You have walked into a minefield with your focus on the Jesuits.The Irish Province of Jesuits are a group of bachelors who lead a charmed life.They get off on commentating on everyone else’s life while living in comfort in one of their “Ashford Castle” type communities or getting “permission” to live on their own and do their own thing. They overstate their importance and involvement in issues whether its ecumenism, academics, social justice, pretending to be deep and thoughtful and nuanced about issues, when really they are institutional men who will back the status quo to the end and dont have an original thought between them. They insist on passing comments on everyone else and yet never allow the light to be shone on them.

Peter McVerry gets great kudos for his work, much of it deserved. However, there is a darker side to it all too. He gets to live on his own in a lovely apartment as no one would be able to put up with him. There are also serious issues with him not letting go the reins of the Peter McVerry Trust even though the company has a full complement of staff including a CEO. He continues to control the Trust rather than allowing it to develop and grow without the need to have him front and centre.

Kevin O’Higgins SJ spends most of his time on Twitter passing comments and judgements on Irish society after spending years on the missions (so what, it suited him). He presents himself as a “wise old man” type with great wisdom and insight. Yet it’s clear to see that he actually has a lot of time on his hands and a great set up – living on his own, nice sun patio, dog and no one to bother him. So, no wonder he has all the time in the world to pontificate but please, give the rest of us a break as we struggle to make ends meet and get through the day.

The Jesuits canvass a certain type of lay person.

Regarding their Safeguarding Officer, Saoirse Fox she has generated a nice little industry for herself out of safeguarding. While having a mediocre professional work record, not going anywhere, she landed a plum job with the Jesuits. She is one of these “woke” types ‘ into climate change, social justice, lgbt, craft beer, music festivals, but really when it comes down to it she, along with her Jesuit colleagues, have a rigid world view dressed up as “woke” She is very blinkered in her approach and has no understanding of the pastoral care of the perpetrator.

Then the Jesuits have Pat Coyle, journalist, who is almost like Twink for RTE. The Jesuits see Pat Coyle as their Lord and Saviour as she presents them in a modern and “woke” way through media. She manages their image very carefully.

However, the Jesuit Sli Eile Ministry for young people (based on Gardiner Street Dublin) fell out of favour when it became too independent thinking. So, it was sidelined and eventually closed down.

The Jesuits breed a new generation of people who think and act their way through their Spiritual Direction programme in Manresa. It attracts a certain type again but that’s another days work. The Manresa Community also have a fine view of the gay cruising area on Dollymount Strand.

Provincial Leonard Maloney SJ was the last Jesuit headmaster of Belvedere College in Dublin. He will not only be remembered for that but also remembered for the student he disciplined who then killed himself as a result.

The Jesuits had no choice but to hand over Belvedere (2003) to a hay head master. But the Jesuits hold on to the bitter end before they hand over the reins even though its 2020 and there are plenty competent lay people to do those jobs – the Jesuit Centre for Faith and Justice is another example.

And Pat, there is plenty to say about the Jesuits in Ireland, not very flattering though. And yes, plenty of abuse cases in there too. However, the Jesuits are probably a few steps ahead of you in anticipating and facing off media attention before it gets too hot.it will be interesting to see how far you get with your current enquiries.

Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam”.

PAT SAYS

This was a very unexpected communication.

It is interesting.

I’ve never had much to do with the Jesuits before – apart from a few retreats earlier in life.

The Father Prior thing brought me to them this time.I am watching what they will do.

Why would any religious, with a vow of poverty, live in a private apartment instead of living in community?

A Jesuit friend of mine used to always recite the following verse about the J’s

“They join the order without knowing each other.

They live together without loving each other.

They die together without mourning each other”.

What do readers think of the critique above?

188 thoughts on “THE IRISH JESUITS – A CRITIQUE.

  1. have you seen the apartment the man lives in? basic is not the word!

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    1. Peter McVerry could move into one of the SJ communities and give up his apartment for a homeless family. Or will I be told that it’s a stupid suggestion to make?

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      1. it’s a one bed flat; you wouldn’t swing a cat in it. I doubt it would be suitable for a ‘family’. have you any spare rooms yourself? maybe even a spare space in your house? perhaps you could take in a family or a single person, maybe even an immigrant?

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      2. Or a single homeless person or couple?

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      3. 2.29: You are right…..it is a stupid suggestion….from a stupid person.

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      4. Rita, the SJs have tons of space in their communities, even small one-bedroom flats are out of reach for most people in Dublin. Fr McVarry could live with his confreres and give up the flat to a single person or couple in need.

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      5. 5:01, I’m sure you have lots of friends and family with spare rooms. Perhaps you could move in with them and let a homeless family/Person have your house.

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      6. He is a hypocrite.

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  2. Sounds as though it comes from a serial gossip who is trying to settle a few scores.
    Probably not worth the toilet paper it’s printed on.
    Well, that’s the appropriate place for s***e, isn’t it?😕

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    1. 10.31: Much, therefore Magna, like the s***e you roll out! Strange, isn’t it, how you have an oounion on all things but twisted and thwarted. You must have an abundance of loo rolls! However, I agree with you on this piece today: a serial gossip try to settle a few scores. Also – this person is lying. Most definitely.

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      1. sorry, are you talking to me? or magna?

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  3. Hi Pat.
    The Jesuits are a society not a religious community. They make promises not vows.
    I have visited +Peter’s apartment. He shares it with homeless addicts. It is not plush and has little to no comfort. When ‘off duty’ from the trust he spends his down time helping people off drugs. It’s a hard, thankless life but if can help a person he will.
    I rather think your blog today is based on somebody trying to throw your blog off it’s credibility. It’s like the time you wrongly blogged about that muppet Tom Deenihan leaving the priesthood. If only he would.

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  4. Father Buckley, can I make a suggestion. I think you should offer day-retreats for individuals or groups in Larne. I would love to visit the oratory sometime and perhaps attendees could make a donation. I would say £50-£60 for the day, and maybe even include a light lunch and a nice cup of tea.

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    1. Maybe Pat’s partner can join and show that having a loving relationship does not hinder one’s vocation.

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      1. ‘God is love’ 1 John 4: 8
        @ 10:19am
        I know lots of Priests, Anglican and other, who are in loving relationships. Their ministry is both fruitful and happy.

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  5. You can do another on tomorrow about the Irish Dominicans and their non-entity provincial.

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  6. Pat, I know there are SJ’s who choose to live a similar lifestyle to the people they work for and advocate for, Peter McVerry being the poster boy for this. I find Peter to be sincere, committed and dedicated to the people he work with. He chooses to live simply alongside them. Other Jesuits try to do similar in helping Peter. The criticism of community living can be said of most religious communities. It’s tough, demanding of patience and mercy and kindness. Undoubtedly there will be conflicts but at least they have structured prayer, meal times and some social time. I’ve been to Manresa Retreat Centre many times and find it to be a wonderfully, quiet, enriching experience. I always got very goid spiritual directors. Thank God.

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  7. Pat what do you think about the election? Who do you think will win? In fairness, the Jesuits do comment on society and age McVerry is listened to. The diocesan bishops are ignored.

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    1. I think SF will do well

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      1. I am not Irish, but I heard last year they had lost many seats in the council elections.

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  8. “climate change, social justice, lgbt, craft beer, music festivals” –what’s not to love?

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    1. 1.28

      Count me in!😁

      With the craft beer, like.😀

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  9. We can critique all kinds of groups in the Church and we’ll find a dysfunction of some kind. That’s only natural. Families likewise can have hidden dysfunctionality which can break people apart. I once lived in a community for 3 years and found it very challenging but it was a positive experience overall. The Jesuuts have contributed hugely to irish society through their schools, parishes, social justice outreach and spirituality programmes. They are not a perfect group and we must remember that many of their members are of an elderly age group. Yet, they continue to offer worthwhile service to the Church. I certainly have benefited from their retreats and spiritual programmes.

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  10. It’s good you are keeping an eye on them, Bp Pat. If you don’t, no one will.

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    1. Get back from your net curtains you nosey fool. Maybe someone should keep an eye on you but you sound a boring gossipy fart so probably not much worth reporting

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  11. “The Manresa Community also have a fine view of the gay cruising area on Dollymount Strand.”
    That will be very handy for them right on their doorstep.

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    1. I have never been to Dublin, Bp Pat, but one reviewer describes: “the dunes at Dollymount beach is just about the best cruise spot around. Just walk down to the beach over the wooden bridge and head straight to the dunes. They are located just back from the beach and there are usually some guys hanging out looking for sex. Dogging is also popular.”

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  12. I’d say the critique is pretty spot on ! And probably applicable to so many religious orders, particularly of men. My own experience of male community life left a lot to be desired. Of course, for many years, I blamed myself and thought it was all my fault that it didn’t work out, and that I must have been the reason it did not work for me. Well, over the years, and with reflection, and knowing more about the dynamics of communities and in particular about the lifestyle of clergy and religious, I think that the model itself leaves a lot to be desired and can often be a refuge for strange individuals and dysfunctional lives. My experience, even though I probably couldn’t have verbalised it at the time, was one of bullying, hierarchy, strange behaviours, and usually things devolving down to the lowest common denominator such that even the basic standards of living left a lot to be desired. People seemed happiest when they had adequate supplies of drink and cigarettes, although they wouldn’t have had a clue about how much they cost or where the money came from the buy them. Often, drink was the spark for displays of aggression and anger. Many of these men were deeply unhappy and lacked integration in their emotions, relationships, and sexuality. And so, after a few drinks they would lash out in frustration. For the most part the communities managed to muddle along, at least to an outside view, providing the services and ministries which they offered, but only just. In the end, I got fed up of having to deal with unpredictable behaviours, often threatening, bullying and aggressive, as well as living in shit with unkempt and untidy men. Some individuals were fine, even good, but they tended to keep to themselves and plough their own furrow as a way of protecting themselves. My strategy was to get out and do other things. It is no wonder, that in spite of their original charisms, many of these religious orders are dying out, unable to recruit young men who are a bit more savvy than I was at that age and able to see the dysfunction for what it is. The strategy of some orders is to turn to the third world and import new members, but this brings big problems of culture, language, and above all a rigidity, ultra orthodoxy, conservatism and authoritarianism. Not a recipe for success. Some orders have seen the writing on the wall and have accepted that their time has come to die out and let something else fill the space. That seems wise to me, and I congratulate them for being realistic and going gracefully rather than trying to sustain something that has outlived it usefulness, and in reality can be quite dangerous. That kind of religious life has had its day.

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    1. Very interesting. I imagine something like this happened at the Birmingham Oratory when it went into meltdown before BXVI’s visit to the UK.

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    2. Are you a former Redemptorist now diocesan 9:33am?

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  13. Another Ray Day!

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    1. Did he get voted through for another week? I wonder.

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  14. The Jesuits, the Reds, the Glenstal OSBs etc and the unveiled nuns are renewing themselves out of existence. Their members are old as tea, the Irish SJs have just one novice (Paul Prior, LOL) and in twenty years time there won’t be a convent still open in Ireland. Good old Vatican II.

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    1. It’s easy and lazy thinking to blame this on Vatican II you clown. A lot of it was never fully implemented. The sad old lace queens and their fiddlebacks etc always were so critical of it.

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      1. The rot started with VAT 2. Don’t code yourself.

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      2. The Sisters of Mercy in Enniskillen (average age: 90, number of novices: 0) always maintained that the nuns were the only people to “fully implement Vatican II”. Look where that got them. 🤣😂🤣😅😆🤩😘🤗💯

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      3. No need to be passive-aggressive. It’s not very manly.

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  15. At a time when there are 20,000 people on the NI homeless register, why do the Enniskillen Sisters of Mercy have several private houses, all expensive and in the nice parts of town so that nuns can live by themselves or in couples and the Convent has about 5 nuns living in it, with many empty rooms?

    Check out the “religious communities” section of this:

    https://www.clogherdiocese.ie/parishes/parish-details/?parishID=19

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    1. Mind your own business at 10:24.
      Is it because they are women or sisters that you assume to dictate their living conditions?
      If the boot were on the other foot there would be outrage.
      Disgusting that because religion is so denigrated today that busy bodies like you can jump on the bandwagon.
      What have you contributed to deserving causes in Enniskillen?
      Really obscene!

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      1. It’s more obscene to have a convent nearly empty and the nuns buying and furnishing loads of £150-200k houses and waterside apartments to live in. Do they not believe in living in religious community, sharing all things in common? They priced families out of buying those houses. As well as Enniskillen their big family houses portfolio extends to Lisnaskea, Irvinestown and the Graan farmhouse.

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      2. What’s being women got to do with it? The original blog was about SJs living outside their communities and there was a focus on McVerry. Are the nuns off-limit?

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      3. On the subject of Enniskillen, the presbytery at 4-6 Darling St has five self-contained flats, each with its own sitting room, fully-equipped kitchen, bedroom and bathroom. One curate lives there.
        Across from it, at 1 Darling Street, lives the PP in a huge five bedroom house, the assistant priest lives in a big house in Tattygar and the retired PP has his own house in Maguiresbridge. So a big 🆓🏡 each.

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  16. Pat
    It amazes me that you suddenly get obsessed with certain people, issues or orders. Then you make it your goal to blog about that issue until you get some satisfactory result.
    You won’t get anywhere with the Prior issue or the jesuits. They can withstand your mud throwing antics.

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    1. I do not suddenly get obsessed with issues. Someone brings an issue to me and I look at it. I am not throwing mud. There are very serious issues with Paul Prior and he has a long history. Just watch. This story is going to break big time and bring down many.

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    2. Prior generated all the “mud” himself.

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    3. 10:34 pm.

      Prior caused mayhem in Rome.
      He caused mayhem in Maynooth.
      He is now causing mayhem with the Jesuits.

      Many bishops were warned about Prior and chose to do nothing.

      Not confronting a problem doesn’t make it go away. It only makes it worse.

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      1. My question is – why did the SJs not know about all this before they took him on ? Somebody didn’t do their homework. It was known all along. I think it had been even mentioned on this blog before he went to the SJs. I’d be asking questions about the quality and nature of the SJ recruitment and vetting process. I thought they were to Storm Troopers of the Catholic Church !

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      2. He did not harm a fly. He is a good man. Don’t believe the midget jockey he is mentally unstable.

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      3. Probably also causing mayhem at Dollymount beach too.

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      4. Hmm, sounds like Paul Farrer 😂🤣

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      5. 12:08, the “midget jockey” had the courage to print his GDPR documents here, which showed no evidence of mental instability. In actual fact they revealed that this former seminarian was doing very well spiritually, humanly, pastorally and academically.

        The current controversy with Prior is over a contemporary complaint made by a former Jesuit novice as confirmed by their Safeguarding Officer.

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      6. The “midget jockey“ needs to get over a man touching his leg 10 years ago. Its pathetic

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  17. So Schofield came out “stunning and brave” because he was about to be outed by a young studio runner.
    https://twitter.com/AvonandsomerRob/status/1226081839657385984?s=09

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    1. Makes sense. All that tosh about not being able to live with himself and wanting to be open and honest. He’s lived in the closet for 50 plus years quite happily, it seems. He’s had to come out because something was going to come out about him. All the sycophantic nonsense from the TV people and colleagues is just gushing tosh. Schofield is just like the clergy – they only get all holy and contrite and “honest” when they’ve been caught out.

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    2. A male runner, apparently, whatever that means, 18 years younger than Schofield (58).

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      1. A studio runner is a studio dogs body. Is he not 22?

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      2. I was just about to say, Bp Pat, exactly the same age difference between Abp Turtle and Rory, i.e. 18 years… NOT THIRTY-SIX!!!!

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      3. What a dirty dog he is, Bp Pat, and expecting all the sympathy too!

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    3. Ah! Quelle surpreeeese! Was waiting for that and it didn’t take long. Good wee Catholic Manc boy is Matthew too! Soooo so brave Philip. Gordon the Gopher knew all along and has an arse like the Mersey Tunnel to prove it 😂

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      1. The lad is very young. Dirty auld bastard Scofield. It was nauseating yesterday and that other creep Eamonn Holmes too “comforting” brave Philip. Shower of bastards 🤢🤮

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      2. There are a few stories told about Eamon Holmes when he was at St Malachy’s. He’s not innocent and that hag wife of his. Seems on that ITV programme they are all either Fags or Fag Hags. That Rylan is the biggest one going. They are all well matched on that programme. That Phil Vickerys marriage just finished too. What a set up.

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      3. 1.21

        PLIAGIRISM!

        That was my joke on yesterday’s blog.😡

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    4. Young McGreevy is a past pupil of the Loreto in Manchester. A good Catholic boy

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      1. A good Catholic boy?
        Grow the the hell up, you imbcile.😕

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  18. 10.24: An utterly innocuous comment. You might like to research the various outreach programmes sponsored and paid for by the Sisters of Mercy: you might also discover that sisters are involved in various parish ministries, prison and hospital chaplaincies, women’s education programmes, outreach to the poor….Oh if only you’d open your bloody eyes!! And stop the begrudgery of these good sisters who have worked hard all their lives and long after their retirement from nursing and teaching, continue to serve faithfully well into late years of their lives. You could follow their example, you fool.

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    1. Where is the prison in Enniskillen?

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      1. Gaol Square, near the Tech.

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    2. They could do all that, live in the convent (there’s plenty of room there) and sell the family homes to those who truly need them. Why do they need detached family houses?

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  19. Pat will Fintan Monaghan testify against Paul Prior.

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    1. Some seminarian needs to launch a formal complaint with the Gardai and in the context of a criminal and civil trial Fintan and many other Irish bishops need to be subpoenaed

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      1. They are terrified to do so. There no safe place to disclose the evidence and to provide a witness statement.

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      2. What about the Gardai?

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      3. + Pat, are you suggesting that there is something criminal / actionable in the behaviour of Prior and his dealings with vulnerable people or seminarians for whom he had a duty of care ? Or, is it just he was unsuitable to be in that position, but actually didn’t do anything that could be considered criminal / actionable ? If the former, then he could be in some serious deep water.

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      4. Can you take both civil and criminal action alongside each other +Pat?
        Or do you just put it to the Civil Court and they decide if it goes to Police?
        God bless x

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      5. The criminal normally goes first, followed by the civil.

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      6. Why doesn’t David Dysky come forward to the guards? He’s nothing to lose now and he’s out and proud as a gay. Or maybe the whole story was false about his alleged sexual assault?

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  20. Father Sean Jones has all the dirt on prior

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    1. I cant see him speaking out?

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      1. You are right! Even with the jockstrap picture, Prior got him ordained. Fr. Sean Jones owes his ordination to Prior.

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      2. Rumour has it that it was Priors jockstrap on loan 😂

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      3. What about Brendan Marshall

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      4. 12:46

        He has fallen into flesh.

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      5. Brendan Marshall was spotted in St. Johns recently. He is bigger than Sean Jones. Yuck 🤢

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    2. Anonymously gorgeous 💋 8th Feb 2020 — 7:38 pm

      When dishing the dirt on Fr Prior, please give notice, prior too 🤣 🤣

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  21. Gorgeous’ picture got 650 views!!! He draws a crowd.

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    1. Diarmuid Martin has had it framed. He misses Gorgeous something terrible so he does. I wonder will Gorgeous be at his surprise birthday party…

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      1. Maybe Gorgeous will hop out of the big cake as you see in the movies?

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      2. 12:15

        Haha 😂. I think it will be a more “private” affair Pat At least we know Diarmuid has good taste when it comes to men. I wish that could be said of the rest of the Bishops and Priests in Ireland.

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      3. Hey Pat,
        Would you go on a double date for valentines? You and your partner and Diarmuid and Gorgeous. I am sure there would be lots to discuss.

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      4. Gorgeous is 29 years old. He looks a lot younger. Wow.

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      5. Diarmuid Martin is 74. His birthday is on the 8th of April. Dublin will be free of him

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      6. 45 year age gap between Diarmuid and Michael…nice!

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    2. 12.00

      650 views?

      Dog pooh in a busy town centre would draw more views than that in one hour.

      I’m one of those who ‘viewed’ that guy’s narcissistic pic. He has a weak chin and jawline.

      (Just commentin’, like.😆)

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      1. Lets us see a recent picture of you Magna? I bet that once “skinny, blue-eyed, blonde seminarian“ is now an over-weight, doubled-chinned, red-faced (alcohol related), ugly duckling. You are just jealous of our gorgeous because, unlike you, he is verifiably handsome.

        He does not spend his days on this blog trying to get people to believe he was once a handsome fellow. How pathetic would that be? Ohh wait, you do that. At least we get a good laugh at your expense.

        Back to the cave with you my dear boy.

        (Just saying, like 🤣😂😅)

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      2. Magna,

        I am certain Pat would welcome a picture of you on this site. We can compare you and gorgeous to see who is better looking.

        P.s it’s only fair if gorgeous gets to comment on you next.

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    3. 6.58
      Awww!😯
      Did bad Magna say sumthin’ cruel (true, mind) about your secret crush?
      Hah, hah, hah 😅

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      1. Yes Magna, I would not say no to him. My point still stands in regard to you my dear boy.

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    4. 7.15

      I’d bet you would love to plaster my pic on this blog.😅 You, and most other people in these isles.😅😅

      But Magna ain’t gonna give up his identity that easily, you idiota. 😆

      (Just pointin’ out, like.😕)

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    5. 7.35

      No, I don’t doubt you wouldn’t say ‘no’ to him, you pathetic ageing queer.

      But I’d bet he would emphatically say ‘no’ to you. And not with a little revulsion.

      (Just returnin’ the serve, like.😉)

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      1. My dear Magna, he would probably turn me down but I would happily settle for friendship with an interesting person like him. Yes, I am an “ageing queer” but I am happy one. I do not feel the need to debase people anonymously on this blog. I would not want to plaster your picture all over this blog but I do want you to be fair with people. I think you are better than that.

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    6. 9.01

      My not-so-dear Tom G, there really is no point in changing direction AFTER striking an iceberg. You already holed yourself (seriously, no onanistically contortionist pun intended here) below the personality waterline with your, erm, respectful posts to me. Yes, I can quite accept your assurance that you ‘feel no need to debase people anonymously on this blog’. And I’d be the last, and most reluctant, to call you ‘a liar and a hypocrite’. Really.😕

      As for finding that eel, Byrne, ‘interesting’, well, what can I say, except that… there is no fool like…?

      The only interesting feature about Byrne is his self-interest, specifically, his self-absorption. There probably isn’t a plate-glass window nor door, nor mirror, that he passes without taking a self-adulating peek at himself. The man is wholly unsuited to work with people in ANY capacity, because other people will never be his ultimate concern.

      But then, you are dazzled by his ‘manly’ fine features, aren’t you Tom G, to see anything else?

      Well, I suppose we all have to find some way of getting through these stormy winter nights, even if it is by soaringly silly flights of fancy.

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      1. My dear Magna
        It is safe to say, he is more interesting than you. He has a life, he has succeeded and he has failed, yet, he still wants to work with people who are suffering which is admirable. I think there is more dept to him than you or pat are willing to attribute to him. You want to put him in a box just because he takes the odd selfie and looks good. I bet he would not treat you in the same manner that you threat him…why? Because he is not as pathetic.

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    7. 10.54

      I don’t doubt that ‘Gorgeous’ is more interesting than I. Well, at least to lonely, old, pathetic queers who sexually hanker after much younger queers.

      Why, queers like you, Tom G! 😆

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  22. Here’s at least one problem, and it’s hinted at, but not acknowledged in a comment above, which says some Jesuits *choose* to live a similar lifestyle to the people they minister to.
    These people don’t have a choice and thus these ministries remain paternalistic patronisation.

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    1. “Poverty is privilege when it is a choice” – Gorgeous

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    2. That’s the first time I’ve seen Gorgeous’ pic. Now I know why he got that name! Jesus, Mary and Joseph!
      Maybe he should be careful when walking the Cardiovascular wards, he could cause a Myocardial infarction 😂 🤣🤣

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      1. He is hot. There is no denying his good looks.

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      2. MAGNA'S MUMSY..😣😣😣 8th Feb 2020 — 4:54 pm

        1.26: More a stiffner surely than anything else…. don’t you think?🥒🥒🥒🥒🥒🍌🍌🍌🤣🤣

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    3. 12.20

      Your cynicism reminds of those telly skits some years ago which sent up do-gooders who tried aping the disabled for a time to understand better their daily difficulties. The sighted walking around blindfolded to get a feel for being blind; that sort of condescending superficiality.

      What was the umbrella title of the sketches?

      International Year of the Patronising Bastard?

      That, or somesuch.

      I DID say, though, that you were being cynical about the Jesuits.😕

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  23. Lieutenant Columbo 8th Feb 2020 — 1:10 pm

    Archbishop Bernard Longley, of Birmingham…
    Please remove that sadistic sociopath from the college in Spain. He is a TICKING TIME BOMB! It is not the first time it has ‘gone off,’ and I assure you, it will do again; as sure as the sun riseth in East and setteth in the West. You are TRUSTEE…
    Be under no allusion that you are not part of the present carnage – because, quite simply; you are.
    Be advised that you have a newly appointed member of staff at Oscott who may receive a visit from the Police for perverting the course of justice… making a false statement to Police which was then used to arrest an innocent person.
    NO STONE HAS BEEN LEFT UNTURNED! ! !

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    1. @ 1:10pm Oooooh er missus!

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  24. Captain Underpants has left a trail of destruction in his wake. The SJ’s must have been really desperate for numbers to accept him.

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    1. At 1:35pm
      Do you not pay attention. They are on about the sadistic Fr. FARRADAY-Cage.
      The crap has hit the fan in Liverpool and it is now ALL OUT! The I.C.O. Investigated the Archdiocese of Liverpool Safeguarding Department; the results of that independent investigation are a total car crash (as one would imagine…)
      The Safeguarding Department still, actively and constantly, failed to take Safeguarding action, even after the Liverpool Commission raised serious concerns and gave stark advice. This was in relation to the Seminarian who was abused.
      The Commission found the Liverpool Safeguarding Dept., to have been ‘’Negligent during the Independent review,’’ and advised, ‘The Liverpool Catholic Safeguarding Department needs to work within its scope and responsibilities.’’
      They accused the Archdiocesan Independent report into the vulnerable seminarian’s accusations and grave concerns as being ‘Biased,’ ‘Subjective, rather than objective,’ and found that the Archdiocese of Liverpool SafeGuarding Department ‘’Failed to investigate the Vulnerable adult’s reports of abuse adequately.’’
      JUST FOR CLARIFICATION…….
      The minutes of the Liverpool Safeguarding Commission – which were previously withheld – are now in the hands of the authorities (among others).
      PLEASE NOTE… That the Her Majesty’s I.C.O. is a government body; therefore, their report is a matter of PUBLIC RECORD.
      The minutes of the Liverpool Safeguarding Commission are also a matter of Public record.
      Walking a ‘fine line’ and ‘breaking the law’ are two different legal entities…
      TAX EVASION And TAX AVOIDANCE Are NOT the SAME 😇
      And the St Luke’s Centre, Manchester, is intrinsically entangled with this carnage. A travelling St Lukes assessor, who is also a priest 🧐, actively and fragrantly failed to act in protecting a Vulnerable seminarian, and others. The Vulnerable adult nearly died because of this sociopath.
      The St Lukes Centre website has been down for sometime.
      Apparently, Liverpool has its very own Rain Man.

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  25. Catholic Reporter 8th Feb 2020 — 1:37 pm

    ah the good old freedom of information act. I’ve been having a busy morning doing a lot of reading. Pat, what does the 22nd September 2014 mean to you? 😉

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    1. I cant think of it meaning anything to me.

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      1. I know lol

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    2. Pats consecreation day as a bishop?

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      1. No. That was 19th May 1998 – 22 years ago.

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      2. yeah something like that , erm….:)

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    3. civil marriage date, maybe?

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      1. Catholic Reporter 8th Feb 2020 — 2:54 pm

        2:40, you’re close

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    4. Canon Matt Hep 8th Feb 2020 — 8:36 pm

      I’d be inclined to remove this comment Pat

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      1. Who cares what you think?
        Such narcissism!😆

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  26. +Pat, get that comment taken down

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    1. Which comment?

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      1. Maybe the one commenting on the age difference between Abp Turtle and Rory. I was pretty shocked at that, Bp Pat.

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      2. Take your pick. The innuendo about D Martin and Byrne or E Martin and Coyle.

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  27. Dear Gorgeous
    You really should put out some photos from your boxing days – shirts really don’t suit you and we want to see your chest hair.
    An admirer x

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    1. If you look at the All Ireland Boxing finals you will see Gorgeous picking up medals in 2005/2006. Please remember he is underage so do not post the photos.

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    2. 2.07pm Go buy a porn magazine if your mind is so full of filth. Take it back to your room you boring little sissy who adds nothing to any debate including today’s topic. Once you’ve finished then go and boil your head. Take your silly little fantasies elsewhere as repetitively posting about Byrne on here is not only boring beyond compare but pointless. I recognise your probably a bored nerd on a Saturday afternoon so jog along and get your magazine.

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      1. I would rather wa*k over Byrne than a magazine.

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      2. 3:26, a disgusting person with little maturity

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      3. Father’s feeling a little frustrated!

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  28. David Dysky and Aidan O’Brien both suffered horrific sexual abuse from you know who. ….. was also involved in the grooming of David Dysky, …..in one incident got Dysky drunk and shifted him then expanded to more physical actions of Anal rape.

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    1. You are being complicit in this by not reporting this and what you know to the police. This is not an appropriate forum to report these matters. If you are unwilling to do this then simply shut your cakehole.

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      1. This ex Maynooth Sem who was asked to leave and who is making numerous and spurious claims all day on the blog has made these claims time and time before on this blog. Bp Pat was told from my recollection that this Sem would provide evidence and requested to meet with Pat in Dublin. The result was nothing and continues to be nothing. For the umpteenth time I suggest this fellow takes this to the Guards. I fear his many outbursts about all the usual named people is fuelled by alcohol and it’s obvious he cannot seem to move on with his life. He should seek help for his own sake and well being. His behaviour indicates a total obsessiveness with these people. Perhaps they did wrong him but he needs to find someone to talk to for his own sanity.

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    2. Same with Ronan Sheehan and Sean Hickey

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      1. This seminarian has had many victims Pat. He also got poor Conan kicked out of seminary. Do you need to revisit this untold story?

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      2. Ronan Sheehan yes was caught in bed with Brendan Marshall. Ronan is a vital part of the kitten network. Summoned by senior Clergy. Ronan is a Top.

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    3. 2.25: You better be very careful. You’re being identified by your repeat allegations. You are known. I suggest you contact Gardai if you believe what you are saying, otherwise the persons you are talking about will get there before you. I think you should get professional help and not be guided by this blog. Don’t allow yourself to be used.

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    4. @2:25pm – you are making very very serious accusations!

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      1. Did Marshall make it as a journalist yet? He must do a story on himself.

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      2. Breaking News

        “How I destroyed many Vocations” – by Brendan Marshall

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  29. Pat go all out and expose why Paul Prior really disappeared from Maynooth. Aidan O’Brien case. There is a written statement agianst Paul Prior

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    1. Foreced entry into Toilet Cubicle, St Mary’s House.

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    2. is this the case where someone got a black eye and there was a hush hush?

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  30. Des Hillary, Iggy and Fintan all held a meeting to discuss the credible abuse allegations agianst Paul Prior. Iggy did everything to have Prior removed from all Ministry, however blocked by Michael Mullaney and his network.

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    1. why is Fr Mullaney risking everything to protect the two Predator seminarians. Two senior Seminarians recently pictured in the Fintan Monaghan retreat in house pic.

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  31. The next Maynooth exposure two young males one 18 and one 19 brutally abused and eventually returned home to seek medical care. Fintan Monaghan Payed for their therapy.

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  32. The trouble all started in Maynooth because of BRENDAN MARSHALL

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  33. The Holy Sun 🌞 8th Feb 2020 — 3:59 pm

    — Setting new safeguarding targets for the Archdiocese of Liverpool —
    ———
    ‘’As a former probation officer, registered social worker and Independent Police Complaints Commission investigator, Alexandra Griffiths has seen many things in her professional life. By her own admission though she encountered an unwelcome surprise when embarking on her role as safeguarding coordinator for Liverpool Archdiocese.’
    ———
    Alexandra Griffiths, who attends St Mary’s Catholic church, Woolton in Liverpool, goes on to say: –
    ‘I’ve always been open about the fact I’m a Catholic but when I came into the role a lot of people questioned why I’d want to take on almost “a poisoned chalice”, for want of a better phrase,’ she says. ‘That really did surprise me because it’s only part of the story. Every time somebody is abused or hurt, it is one person too many.’’
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    Read the full profile on the Archdiocese of Liverpool website!
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    http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=1744

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  34. Wrong answer

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  35. BREAKING NEWS
    The only surviving piece of bone thought to belong to St John Henry Newman has been stolen from the Birmingham Oratory.

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    1. 6.42
      Some dog is probably chewin’ on it. 😅
      And thank God for it if true?
      This, spiritually sick Romanist practice of venerating the human remains of so-called ‘saints’ is not only anachronistically morbid and necrophilic, but borderline blasphemous.
      I have no regard for the Romanist calendar of saints, especially since among them are paedophile protectors and ennablers, like JPII.

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      1. MAGNA'S MUMSY..😣😣😣 8th Feb 2020 — 8:12 pm

        7.31: Bah, Bah, bah, bah, black sheep….Carrie Magnum: You are in a heap of unnecessary angst and hatred. Saint Maria Goretti – pray for you: Pope St. John Paul 11, intervene for Divine Mercy for you. As per usual, the devil has found a worthy dwelling place in your heart, soul and mind. God help the devil!! St. Patrick, rid Maggie of the slugs and vipers in his soul. St. Brigid, wrap him in a mantle of goodness and saintliness. St. Colman, deliver him from delusion. Pope St. John 23rd – bring him to sanity. St. Mother Theresa, give him a love for God. All the glorious Saints of the Heavenly Assembly – hear our prayers for this LOST, UNHAPPY soul.

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    2. Not another scandal there. I remember the so-called “intense friendship” scandal involving the Provost at the time. The old queen Damian Thompson was scandalized at the time.

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    3. Has the reliquary been taken as well? Because that would be the natural target for a thief.
      Otherwise it presents a bizarre picture of a Catholic so desperate to get a first class relic they steal it!

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      1. 8.18
        Well, of course.😕 Why would a thief steal a piece of utterly useless Roman Catholic bone? I suspect even modern thieves are intellectually too sophisticated for Romanist necrophilic garbage.
        Mind, the poor oul dog is gonna be dissppointed: What’s the point of gnawing on bone devoid of marrow?
        Newman, you old queer, you have been found wanting, in death as much as in life.

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  36. The Irish SJ’s have a Facebook page, Bp Pa, but it’s not very interesting. Listed as a non-profit organization. Huh!
    There’s also a picture of that McNulty fellow tipped for Dublin.
    https://www.facebook.com/IrishJesuits/photos/pb.195831957097277.-2207520000../3520020118011761/?type=3&theater

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    1. Ok! Thanks for letting us know! You can go back to playing with your lego now

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      1. 7.55 you’re a knob

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  37. LYDIATE FOOT-FETTISHISM — It’s that time of the month! 8th Feb 2020 — 7:31 pm

    ‘FOOT-FETISH-PARISH-PRIESTS’ And ‘VANISHING SEMINARIANS’ — INCLUDING — UNACCOUNTED-FOR ATTENTION-DEFICIT (AMPHETAMINE) MEDICATION — ON SAME-DAY AS HOSIERY And PODOPHILIA / ENERGETICALLY CHATTY-PRIEST TELLS SCHOOL CHAPLAIN, AND SEMINARIAN, THAT A ‘’Girl in his last parish who had blood running down her leg, in the shower, on the same-day she RECEIVED HOLY COMMUNION,’’ was a ‘’VERY EMOTIONAL AND MOVING DAY! ! 🤢
    — PARISH PRIEST ADMITS IN INDEPENDENT REPORTING — BUT SAFEGUARDING DID NOT TAKE ACTION — QUIT THE OPPOSITE. . . . . . . 🤫 🤐 🙄 Shhh!
    🦶 🦶 —— 💊 💊 ——— 👠 👠
    Foot fetishism has been defined as a pronounced sexual interest in feet. For a foot fetishist, points of attraction may include the shape and size of feet and toes (e.g. long toes, short toes, painted toenails, short or long toenail beds, high arches, soles, etc.), jewelry (e.g. toe rings, anklets, etc.), treatments (such as massaging, * * WASHING PEOPLE’S FEET * * or painting their toenails), state of dress (barefoot, FLIP-FLOPS, sandals, high heels, HOSIERY, SOCKED FEET, etc.), Including rubbing the foot, tickling, smelling, kissing, biting, licking, sucking toes, rubbing genitals on foot, etc.).
    Sigmund Freud also considered foot binding as a form of fetishism.
    ………. Why put such an immature, volatile and compromising individual in such a precarious position? One must certainly ask this question, given the issues with the last PP!

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    1. Weirdo

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  38. It looks as though somebody has put their bloody foot in it there 😊

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    1. Paul Symons ExOBE was into boys’ feet 🤢

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  39. If that is who I think it is he washed the kids feet during our Easter liturgy and made a joke in the staff room about kissing their feet next year. And I think I know know who the trainee is, he was a young man who built up a good bond with reception the class, which consisted of children with Autism. He just vanished into thin air one day and we never saw him again nothing was mentioned in school or church newsletters

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    1. Apparently, he “learnt a lot from Philip.”

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    2. McGreevy has worked on three productions since leaving Loreto in Manchester – all 3 featuring Schofield. Did he use his influence within ITV to get young Matthew these positions? Young McGreevy’s present day position is on ‘This Morning’ where Schofield chose to come out on Friday. It looks more outed than coming out. Hypocrite looking sympathy. Pathetic twink chaser.

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  40. Bp Pat, did you see Fr Sugar Ray doing the Charleston tonight? Did he go through to next week.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B8OLym1nsY1/

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  41. Pat, not many know that the Saw Doctors wrote a song about Fanny back in the day when she was a young wan running around Thurles

    I have fallen for another she can make her own way home
    And even if she asked me now I’d let her go alone
    I useta see her up the chapel when she went to Sunday mass
    And when she’d go to receive, I’d kneel down there
    And watch her pass
    The glory of her ass
    I useta to love her, I useta love her once
    A long, long time ago
    I useta to love her, I useta love her once
    A long long time ago
    It’s gone , all my lovin? is gone
    It’s gone , all my lovin? is gone
    D’you remember her collecting for concern on Christmas eve
    She was on a forty eight hour fast just water and black tea
    I walked right up and made an ostentatious
    Contribution
    And I winked at her to tell her I’d seduce her in the future
    When she’s feelin looser
    So now you know the truth of it she’s no longer my obsession
    Though the thoughts and dreams i had of her would take six months in confession
    See i met this young one Thursday night and she’s inta free expression
    And her mission is to rid the world of this sinful repression
    Then we had a session
    It’s gone , long , long gone
    I have fallen for another and she can make her own way home

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    1. Presentation Boarder was inspired by her too 🤣

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  42. Lollipop Josie 8th Feb 2020 — 8:44 pm

    8.12: Brilliant: We should also add: St. Shitalot: redeem Magnesia. Please..😅😅😅😅😄😄😄🤣🤣🎎🎎🎎😁😁

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  43. Pat Mullaney says that Buckley lad if I catch the howlt o’ him I’ll scrab the eyes outa him

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  44. Fly on Th Wall 8th Feb 2020 — 9:06 pm

    🎶 O Lord Tis so hard to be humble when yr perfect in every way hi🎶 I tend to think of myself as a Christian rather than a cat lick or a pro tea stant. I discovered I’m not perfect and my one man stance could be a hi look at me hi trip rather than putting Christ at the centre Sure fekit we all can do it but that doesn’t make it right but

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  45. Pat, it is as plain as day from your blog that the entire Irish episcopal conference and the president and staff of (Gay)Maynooth are a complete and utter laughing stock. The fact that they do absolutely nothing to counteract this perception suggests they are in meltdown.

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    1. Good point.

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  46. Gorgeous has a big Di*k
    King Puck has an XXL jockstrap
    Gannon is suing Ciara O’Carroll
    Fitzpatrick is in denial
    Marshall is a predator
    Sheehan is a bottom
    Hickey has the dirt on Marshall
    Dysky has the dirt on Marshall
    O’Brien has the dirt on Marshall
    Conan has the dirt on Marshall

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  47. +Pat, I have to admit disgust at the speculation you have permitted on this blog today. As a former seminarian who knew these people, I can say that these allegations are ludicrous and baseless. Allowing these young men, who are both getting on with their lives, to be named is nothing short of irresponsible.

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    1. Shut up Brendan.

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  48. The Clogher diocese Sisters of Mercy have more private houses than Elton John. They’re also in Bellanaleck (Big End territory), Monea, Garrison and Bundoran where they have no fewer than three separate houses. #vowofpoverty

    https://www.clogherdiocese.ie/parishes/parish-details/?parishID=7

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  49. suck my diddies

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  50. Yeah! Irresponsible! Disgust! Yeah!
    But the ones who ruin people’s lives, and it’s: ‘’How can you do this to, Father!’’ And: ‘You know there are lots of people upset by what you have said about, Father, don’t you.’’
    ‘’Just forget about it, now; get on with your life.’’ Or ‘’If you don’t move on, it will consume you. Just let it go, now.’’ NO CHANCE — NOT ON MY WATCH ! ! !
    WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED ! ! ! GET IT INTO YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULLS AND ZUCCHETTOS ! ! !
    And, to the other clergy; including their spies, (whom, I have to say, have been INSTRUMENTAL 😎) caught up in the Liverpool scandal who are currently wiping their brows, under the false illusion, that you have not been mentioned thus far… WAIT YOUR VERY TURN ! ! !
    I have a file of EVIDENCE which will make even the hardiest of hardiest shit their kecks and shiver into oblivion! DO NOT BE FOOLED ! ! ! FOR I AM COMING ON THE CLOUDS ! ! ! WITH THUNDER ! ! !
    I have started RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE INFESTED SHIT HEAP – and am currently in the process of working my way down: inch by inch; centimetre by centimetre; millimetre by millimetre; micrometer by micrometer! ! ! RIGHT to the bottom of the fucking shit heap ! ! ! A LABOUR OF LOVE ! ! !
    +Pat, I’m sorry for my bad use of language, please feel free to moderate as you see fit, but I honestly cannot for the love of God understand these people. People’s lives have been ruined and people are moaning over such silliest of things.

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  51. Here’s one of the Mercy nuns operations in Bundoran. What self-indulgent claptrap.
    http://sistersofmercy.ie/mercy-mission/ecology-initiative-glor-na-mara-bundoran-co-donegal/

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    1. Self-indulgent? Claptrap?
      Why such a vicious reaction?

      Christianity is as much about action as it is about belief.

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  52. Ingrid and Klaus their gardeners are local unemployed people I presume not East European slave labour who will do any manual labour for any wage

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