ClHAPTER II : THE MINISTER OF CONFIRMATIONl
Can. 882 The ordinary minister of confirmation is a Bishop. A priest can also validly confer this sacrament if he has the faculty to do so, either from the general law or by way of a special grant fro the competent authority. Can. 883 The following have, by law, the faculty to administer confirmation:
1° within the confines of their jurisdiction, those who in law are equivalent to a diocesan Bishop; 2° in respect of the person to be confirmed, the priest who by virtue of his office or by mandate of the diocesan Bishop baptizes an adult or admits a baptized adult into full communion with the catholic Church; 3° in respect of those in danger of death, the parish priest or indeed any priest.
Can. 884
§1 The diocesan Bishop is himself to administer confirmation or to ensure that it is administered by another Bishop. If necessity so requires, he may grant to one or several specified priests the faculty to administer this sacrament.
§2 For a grave reason the Bishop, or the priest who by law or by special grant of the competent authority has the faculty to confirm, may in individual cases invite other priests to join with him in administering the sacrament.
Can. 885
§1 The diocesan Bishop is bound to ensure that the sacrament of confirmation is conferred upon his subjects who duly and reasonably request it. §2 A priest who has this faculty must use it for those in whose favor it was granted.
Can. 886
§1 A Bishop in his own diocese may lawfully administer the sacrament of confirmation even to the faithful who are not his subjects, unless there is an express prohibition by their own Ordinary. §2 In order lawfully to administer confirmation in another diocese, unless it be to his own subjects, a Bishop needs the permission, at least reasonably presumed, of the diocesan Bishop.
Can. 887 A priest who has the faculty to administer confirmation may, within the territory assigned to him, lawfully administer this sacrament even to those from outside the territory, unless there is a prohibition by their own Ordinary. He cannot, however, validly confirm anyone in another territory, without prejudice to the provision of can. 883, n.3.
Can. 888 Within the territory in which they can confer confirmation, ministers may confirm even in exempt places.
PAT SAYS
Why are many bishops refusing to do their Confirmations and delegating priests to celebrate that sacrament – in stark contradiction of Canon Law?
The bishop is the primary minister of confirmation.
The bishop CAN delegate a priest to do confirmations in unusual circumstances. But not as a permanent situation.
The problem is that most bishops are not pastors. They prefer admin at a desk. They have vocations to accounting, not to ministry!
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BISHOPS NOT DOING CONFIRMATIONS IS A BREACH OF CANON LAW.
CANON 880
ClHAPTER II : THE MINISTER OF CONFIRMATIONl
Can. 882 The ordinary minister of confirmation is a Bishop. A priest can also validly confer this sacrament if he has the faculty to do so, either from the general law or by way of a special grant fro the competent authority. Can. 883 The following have, by law, the faculty to administer confirmation:
1° within the confines of their jurisdiction, those who in law are equivalent to a diocesan Bishop; 2° in respect of the person to be confirmed, the priest who by virtue of his office or by mandate of the diocesan Bishop baptizes an adult or admits a baptized adult into full communion with the catholic Church; 3° in respect of those in danger of death, the parish priest or indeed any priest.
Can. 884
§1 The diocesan Bishop is himself to administer confirmation or to ensure that it is administered by another Bishop. If necessity so requires, he may grant to one or several specified priests the faculty to administer this sacrament.
§2 For a grave reason the Bishop, or the priest who by law or by special grant of the competent authority has the faculty to confirm, may in individual cases invite other priests to join with him in administering the sacrament.
Can. 885
§1 The diocesan Bishop is bound to ensure that the sacrament of confirmation is conferred upon his subjects who duly and reasonably request it. §2 A priest who has this faculty must use it for those in whose favor it was granted.
Can. 886
§1 A Bishop in his own diocese may lawfully administer the sacrament of confirmation even to the faithful who are not his subjects, unless there is an express prohibition by their own Ordinary. §2 In order lawfully to administer confirmation in another diocese, unless it be to his own subjects, a Bishop needs the permission, at least reasonably presumed, of the diocesan Bishop.
Can. 887 A priest who has the faculty to administer confirmation may, within the territory assigned to him, lawfully administer this sacrament even to those from outside the territory, unless there is a prohibition by their own Ordinary. He cannot, however, validly confirm anyone in another territory, without prejudice to the provision of can. 883, n.3.
Can. 888 Within the territory in which they can confer confirmation, ministers may confirm even in exempt places.
PAT SAYS
Why are many bishops refusing to do their Confirmations and delegating priests to celebrate that sacrament – in stark contradiction of Canon Law?
The bishop is the primary minister of confirmation.
The bishop CAN delegate a priest to do confirmations in unusual circumstances. But not as a permanent situation.
The problem is that most bishops are not pastors. They prefer admin at a desk. They have vocations to accounting, not to ministry!
ClHAPTER II : THE MINISTER OF CONFIRMATIONl
Can. 882 The ordinary minister of confirmation is a Bishop. A priest can also validly confer this sacrament if he has the faculty to do so, either from the general law or by way of a special grant fro the competent authority. Can. 883 The following have, by law, the faculty to administer confirmation:
1° within the confines of their jurisdiction, those who in law are equivalent to a diocesan Bishop; 2° in respect of the person to be confirmed, the priest who by virtue of his office or by mandate of the diocesan Bishop baptizes an adult or admits a baptized adult into full communion with the catholic Church; 3° in respect of those in danger of death, the parish priest or indeed any priest.
Can. 884
§1 The diocesan Bishop is himself to administer confirmation or to ensure that it is administered by another Bishop. If necessity so requires, he may grant to one or several specified priests the faculty to administer this sacrament.
§2 For a grave reason the Bishop, or the priest who by law or by special grant of the competent authority has the faculty to confirm, may in individual cases invite other priests to join with him in administering the sacrament.
Can. 885
§1 The diocesan Bishop is bound to ensure that the sacrament of confirmation is conferred upon his subjects who duly and reasonably request it. §2 A priest who has this faculty must use it for those in whose favor it was granted.
Can. 886
§1 A Bishop in his own diocese may lawfully administer the sacrament of confirmation even to the faithful who are not his subjects, unless there is an express prohibition by their own Ordinary. §2 In order lawfully to administer confirmation in another diocese, unless it be to his own subjects, a Bishop needs the permission, at least reasonably presumed, of the diocesan Bishop.
Can. 887 A priest who has the faculty to administer confirmation may, within the territory assigned to him, lawfully administer this sacrament even to those from outside the territory, unless there is a prohibition by their own Ordinary. He cannot, however, validly confirm anyone in another territory, without prejudice to the provision of can. 883, n.3.
Can. 888 Within the territory in which they can confer confirmation, ministers may confirm even in exempt places.
PAT SAYS
Why are many bishops refusing to do their Confirmations and delegating priests to celebrate that sacrament – in stark contradiction of Canon Law?
The bishop is the primary minister of confirmation.
The bishop CAN delegate a priest to do confirmations in unusual circumstances. But not as a permanent situation.
The problem is that most bishops are not pastors. They prefer admin at a desk. They have vocations to accounting, not to ministry!
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
151 replies on “BISHOPS NOT DOING CONFIRMATIONS IS A BREACH OF CANON LAW.”
Excellent blog and pertinent to Ireland at present. Can I suggest that any Irish Bishop not fulfilling their duty to confirm be reported asap to Cardinal Sarah, Vatican City, Italia. They are watching Ireland at present for Conformation dodgers.
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Pat, the finances of Down and Connor have been mentioned on the blog recently.
Please see below, especially page 15. It shows that parish offerings decreased from £14.9million in 2017 to £12.8million in 2018, a fall of £2.1million.
Central services income fell from £4.1million in 2017 to £14.4million in 2018.
The cathedral choir cost £33,000. Milltown Cemetery income was £483,000. The diocese spent £94,000 on seminarian fees, on top of the Maynooth levy of £154,000.
Salaries for lay managers totalled £194,000 and the diocese has set aside £1.5million to cover legal claims and costs based upon legal advice on the likely outcome of those cases (see page 46 of the accounts).
Not to worry though, as the diocese has assets of £181million.
https://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/ccni_ar_attachments/0000103983_20181231_CA.pdf
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Sarah is about to get his P60. Is this your hobbyhorse – your recipe fir a great revival of faith? 😂😂.
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Pat, don’t bother getting your frillies in a knot over Catholic Bishops delegating confirmation to others. As Parish Priest I will be celebrating 2 confirmations in the Parish. No big deal. Makes sense. You are very welcome to sit under the arch in the sanctuary and enjoy a beautiful Catholic Liturgy.
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I would like to come.
Can you give me the venue, date and time.
I look forward to joining you.
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10.25: You would only be invited for fun….to allow us throw rotten tomatoes at you. Anyway, Patsy, no one would be interested in frilly albs or bras!!
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We got a “mini Bishop” in our area because of this! Bishop Noel should be at least going to each parish every 2nd or 3rd year and having the VF in our case Fr J Murray of the Diocese of Lecale & area (Downpatrick). Bishop Noel is only administering the sacrament to Downpatrick and letting Bishop John do the out laying Parishes ie Ardglass, Killough, Killyleagh, Strangford, Kilmore, Loughisland, Drummaroad, Saul ! NOT GOOD AT ALL ! Shows Bishop Noel has no interest in his Diocese
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I am willing to come to any parish to do Confirmations.
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Nice that a PP thinks Confirmation is no big deal. No wonder he won’t see the confirmed in the church again until they are at a weddings or funeral.
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12.29
It ISN’T a big deal: it isn’t even biblical. The Romanists have made it a liturgical showpiece…for themselves. To express THEIR self-conceived notions of grandeur and of place in the world.
It’s a Romanist canonical creation to reinforce the perception and status of Romanist clerics.
These parasites have set up a very real, psychological and spiritual barrier between Catholics and Christ. And we are experiencing its evil effects now, in a truly unique and historic way.
The Romanist Church is breaking up at the foundations. And by this I don’t mean ‘the clergy and hierarchy’. Ordinary Catholics are leaving the Church in droves, starved of grace by the interference of Romanist clergy.
Someone reported on yesterday’s blog that the diocese of Down and Connor has a £1 million shortfall in annual revenue. If this is true, it, or very similar, is happening in other dioceses, too.
It is wonderful news!
The sooner the Church is cleansed of every Romanist priest, especially every bishop, the sooner the Church will pick up, and recover.
Anyone who donates a single penny to this rotten, parasitical institution is complicit in evil such that has never afflicted the Church in her 2000-year history. Not even the Protestant Reformation (of which the initiating cause was a corrupt papacy and clergy) comes close.
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MC, do you believe in the Sacraments. Just interested?
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12.29: Some of the best and most memorable Confirmation ceremonies I have witnessed are those celebrated by the local Parish Priest who is the chaplain and has a relationship with the pupils, teachers and parents. Always a more meaningful and lovely time. You need to get real.
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1.32
I believe in grace, lovingly given by God, and willingly received by any child of his. I emphatically do not believe in ‘The Sacraments’. ‘Sacrament’ does not mean ‘the sacred’ (or grace’).
With respect, asking someone whether he believes in ‘The Sacraments’ is akin to asking whether he believes in a token of love rather than love itself. When such a question is asked, it implies that the token is what it supposedly BEtokens.
As you know, the word ‘sacrament’ comes from the Latin ‘sacramentum’. The latter word does not mean ‘the sacred’ (or ‘grace’), but ‘SIGN of the sacred’. However, the Romanists historically made these ritual signs the ONLY possible indicators of grace, allowing the word ‘sacrament’ itself to mean more than ‘sign…’; to mean, in fact, what it purportedly, and previously, only signified, the conferring of God’s grace on a child of his. In this corruption of spiritual commerce, the Romanists lied. And they are still lying. It is why they were able to tell the world ‘extra ecclesiam nulla salus’ (‘outside the Church there is no salvation’). It is why they were able to threaten Catholics with excommunication.
The so-called ‘Sacraments’ were weaponised by Romanist parasites to control Catholics through fear of eternal damnation.
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Will you all leave Bishop Pat alone he is a true man of God!!!
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Who gives a …. about Canon Law?! Not the bishops, at any rate.
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12:20am
True, MC.
They didn’t follow their canon laws re child rape and abuse of vulnerable adults, either.
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Hi Pat – in the Derry Diocese, Bishop McKeown has delegated a large chunk of the 2020 confirmations to parish priests.
What amazes me is that Bishop McKeown did not confer confirmation in the bishop’s own parish of the cathedral and Long Tower this year, but left the cathedral’s confirmations to the cathedral administrator Fr Paul Farren and the Long Tower’s confirmation was left to the retired, yes retired Monsignor Joseph Donnelly to administer.
Do we get the feeling Bishop McKeown now has gotten the message from the parishioners of his diocese that he is not liked by them?
Bishop McKeown is scheduled to perform confirmation in 33 of the 51 parishes of the diocese, leaving the remaining 18 parishes to administer confirmation through a priest appointed by Bishop McKeown.
What is very telling is the parishes he has decided to avoid – namely all the Derry City parishes, where he is nearly universally disliked, though not on the same levels as his predecessor the late Bishop Seamus Hegarty.
I know there is now only one bishop working (I use that word very loosely) in the diocese, with Bishop Lagan very ill and no other assistant bishops ever appointed again to help McKeown – but they could have scheduled the confirmations easily for him to do them all, or to bring in a retired Bishop or visiting Bishop from outside the diocese to help.
Maybe we are now in the era, where bishops are afraid to meet their congregations in these events? Who knows?
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Donal does confirmations every other year in parishes. So those he is doing this year he did not preside at last year and vice versa. That said he is healthy and there is absolutely no reason why he cannot do all the confirmations in the Diocese – Confirmations should be done by the Bishop – bishops need to get around their dioceses more often than they do
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you being illegally consecrated a bishop is a breach of Canon Law, numpty!
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I know. But I do not pretend to uphold canon law, stupid.
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10 27: But Pat, you teach erroneously. You make up your own rules and laws. You abide by what you and you alone believe. Tough if it doesn’t suit your agenda that bishops delegate….What trivial concerns.
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I go by WWJD – WHAT WOULD JESUS DO.
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May be so but it is still valid. Pat is a real Bishop. Long live Pat.
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He’s not Roman though, Roman Canon law does not apply 😉
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In the Eastern Rite churches it would be usualy for the Priest to pray Chrismation ( Confirmation ) at Baptism .Here there is a difference in practice with the West . But I just wonder what some of the Bishop do all week and why they need a huge staff to do very little ? Would it not be better if they with the Priest shortage worked as Parsih Priest also ?
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Pat, you don’t understand the role of the Bishop. It’s purely administrative lol, like executive of the diocese.
I have just read the comments from yesterday – it’s hilarious every time Brian D’Arcy is mentioned, you comment that he is embarrassing and someone always says you’re jealous. It just shows the paperback psychology these people have been exposed to in their ‘formation’.
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Bishop bling regularly “authorises” his minions to confer confirmation. Obviously he’s too busy!!
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Top o th morning Pat. Hope you are ok I’m worried cause you are quoting this canon law fella. Confirmation is the back end of baptism. If ya can baptise ya can confirm. The whole concept is flawed these days. It’s a passing out parade. It’s about what ya do rather than who you are. I’m sure th auld bishop gets a few Bob as well. Anyway why are bishops hats pointed. Is there an ancient alien link hi
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The lard ass in Derry is leaving it to the PP in Bellaghy to do Confirmations. Already reported to Sarah. Please report similar abuses. Rome is watching Ireland because they are major abusers of Canon law in this regard. Cardinal Brady was used by Dromore in Rostrevor until the people kicked up hell and he was never seen again at any Confirmation.
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Lord Steel facing expulsion from Liberal Democrats after criticism in IICSA report over admission he failed to pass on suspicions about Sir Cyril Smith.
Dear knows what the IICSA report will say when it comes to Elsie, Bp Pat? I wonder.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/18/lord-steel-facing-liberal-democrat-expulsion-criticism-child/
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Lazy feckers they have little else to do and it’s a way of connecting with their flock.
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Absolutely right @8:53. It is an extraordinary missed opportunity, and demonstrates just how out of touch the bishops are. What are they doing which demands their attention? Back in the day when even big dioceses such as Westminster or Birmingham had one auxiliary to assist the Archbishop, there was far more happening in parishes and far larger numbers, but confirmation was done by a bishop and it was a big event. Today nobody cares anyway.
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The description used for those seeking confirmation is indeed very telling of the attitude of the “princely bishops,” and the RCC in general: “subjects!”
MMM
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So is aiding and abetting known clergy paedophiles’ 🤔
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Dancing priest receives threatening phone calls and letters containing threats of beheading. Story in Indo.
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He’ll also get the sympathy vote this week.
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Twitter User: “There’s a priest on the Irish version of Dancing with the Stars – and the absolute state of him! He dances like an elephant with piles.”
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check out Joe Duffy liveline RTE. people phoning in giving out about Ray Kelly,
”Jesus Christ never went round dancin’ for women or anythin’ like that”, said one caller
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the reason Fr Ray is still on the show
The reason Fr Ray Kelly is still in the competition 😉 #dwtsirl https://t.co/RuVPhy6m7Q— Paul Cashin (@PaulCashin_) February 16, 2020
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Afraid to meet the great unwashed ( their flock)?
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9:59
To be contaminated with
the smell of the sheep.
Heaven forbid.
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It’s said canon law was ignored at the election of the current Pope.
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These comments are all good and well, but you all are not Roman Catholics so why would something taking place in another organisation bother you all so Much? Is there a hint of the green eyed monster, or perhaps a longing to belong
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No. Just a simple desire to expose absolute corruption.
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it’s hardly a crime to delegate, it’s their rules. Catch yourself on
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‘’Most posting are catholic’s or formerly practiced as catholics.’’
The point exactly. My god you are thick as a plank. The want is great in this one, Pat. 😂😂😂
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10.53: Pat, your apoplectic crap re: delegation by bishops of priests to do confirmations is worse than anything you’ve posted before. Pure s***e. What utter nonsense from a trailer load of laptop bullies. I’m certain that none of these moral righteous ones ever go near a Church. Who’d want such troublemakers?
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Why are you soooooo upset?
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Just a silly misinformed thought @ 10:49.
So the Church is now an organisation?
Most posting are catholic’s or formerly practiced as catholics.
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11:06, have we hit a nerve.
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110:06 contradicting themselves
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11:28
Back to primary school with you.
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10.49: Hey board warriors and critics love to to cause trouble but haven’t an ounce of moral or spiritual integrity as not one of them would publicly say what they print anonymously. They prefer the comfort of hiding. All silly troublemakers.
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11:48, and this coming from an anonymous poster. pot. kettle. Pat, it’s worse these people are getting. 🤣
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11.48
Says Mr ‘Anonymous’ himself.😕
I swear by all that’s holy some who post here are, like Mr ‘Anonymous’, intellectually retarded.😞
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11:48, we will all answer before God
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It’s another symptom of the rot that has engulfed the rc church in ireland. Paralysis and fear along with a siege mentality, afraid to leave their bunkers (Palaces). They should be leading from the front not cowering in the rear lines. Whatever you might say about Pat Buckley, Brian D’Arcy or Ray Kelly they are not afraid to mingle with their flock.
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11.25
Does Ray ‘mingle’ with his ‘flock’?
I thought he just sang to them.
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Singing to them is more than their bishop does
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12:28
And dance!
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10.53: There is absolutely nothing of corruption if a bishop chooses to delegate a Parish Priest to celebrate confirmations. Pat, you are simply causing trouble. You should MYOB for once… Go and do something useful. Pray for a new heart and a new spirit. Fool.
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11.40
Nothing of corruption in a dirty Romanist parasitical bishop?😨
A-hah, hah, hah 😅😅😅
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Nothing of corruption in an unemployed scrounger?
A-hah, hah, hah 😅😅😅
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1.24
‘Unemployed scrounger’?
You’re thinking of the Romanists, aren’t you?😅
A-hah, hah, hah 😅😅😅
😎
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‘Unemployed scrounger’?
I’m thinking you?😅
A-hah, hah, hah 😅😅😅
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3.33
No, you weren’t, cos Magna is very gainfully employed. But he ain’t gonna tell you what he does, cos that would give the game away for him. And he ain’t about to do that. 😄
Here it comes…😉
A-hah, hah, hah 😅😅😅
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Queuing for the dole isn’t considered gainfull employment, hun x
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6.35
Which is why I don’t, hun. 💃
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7:19, oooops my bad, you’re on the disability. God bless the mark x
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7.40
God may bless it, but you’ve missed it. 😄
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11 44: Not at all upset. Just trying to make you cone to your senses. Get a real life. The bishops are right to delegate. Simple as. And since you abandoned the Catholic Church many years ago, it’s none of your business. Go and find more meaningful things to do. God help you.
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11.05: If only you would ask yourself that question seriously Pat! Imagine the level of mercy, compassion, respect and tolerance you’d display. Your behaviour is most certainly not that of the Christ whose sacred memory you promise to uphold. It is far from Christ you are! WWJD….I wish you would truly HONOUR CHRIST JESUS. Ah, but that requires humility…..
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Pious drivel.
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11.59: You practice a form of humanist atheism. You don’t really believe in Jesus as your comments are totally the opposite of Jesus. You choose the comfortable pieces but you are not of CHRIST. Your attitude is stinky….very self serving. Always.
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I fully believe in God, the Trinity the Word of God, the Sacraments etc.
It is my belief in these things that makes me condemn the corruption of the RCC and its clergy.
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”It is my belief in these things that makes me condemn the corruption of the RCC and its clergy”
ladies and Gentleman, Pat Buckley 😕
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11.59: Pat the truth hurts you when you’re found out and named as the charlatan you are. Yes, you are so far up your backside that your eyes, face and heart are skewed to TRUTH. You are a total contradiction to Christ.
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11:57am
My bishop lied to me recently, illustrating a lack of integrity, humility and sincerity. Protecting the company
comes first.
So much for mercy, love, compassion , tolerance, respect and honouring Christ Jesus and His memory.
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Sweet Jesus! I have just read, in full, the canonical nitpicking above. I swear whoever wrote, and whoever observes, this gibberish has a scrupulous personality, and is in mental agony.
Typical Romanist bureaucratic shite.
Does anyone SANE really believe that the Holy Spirit is hedged in by this nonsense. Just ask him to come, sincerely, and he will. He is not at the command of anyone, least of all a mitred (or non-mitred) Romanist cleric.
What lies behind this controlling canonical nonsense is the almighty hubris that the Romanists are God’s middlemen and that there is no access to grace, to God himself, but through their heavily soiled hands.
Bloody parasites!
Away with them!!
(Ack! I’m a bear with a sore ar…head, like.😎)
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12:45, awww, God bless the mark x
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And some of those canons refer to lay Catholics as the diocesan bishop’s ‘subjects’. 😅
JC! The hubris of these parasites, who raped and sodomised your kids and covered it all up to protect themselves from prison, is satanic.
Are you going to bend a submissive knee to any of these parasites?
Seriously, who, as a sane adult, would voluntarily seek this thing called ‘Confirmation’ (it isn’t biblical, anymore than the Sacrament of Marriage) from a mitred Romanist?
Madness.
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Magna, the more you make comments like this the more I’m in love 😍
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Carta – what a tool !🤣
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this Carta has to be some kind of parody lol
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3.06
Yes, I agree.
I wonder who or what he or she is.
‘Tis a mystery, so it is.
LOL😅
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—— Why did Jesus rebuke the scribes and Pharisees so harshly in Matthew 23: 13–36? ——
In Matthew 23 Jesus pronounces “woes” on the scribes and Pharisees, the religious elite of the day (the same as Archbishops and Metropolitans of today, really). The word woe is an exclamation of grief, denunciation, or distress. This was not the first time Jesus had spoke harsh words to the religious leaders of His day. Why did Jesus rebuke them so harshly here? Let’s have a look at each woe…
———
Before pronouncing the woes, Jesus told His listeners to respect the scribes and Pharisees due to their position of authority but not to emulate them, “for they do not practice what they preach.
They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders; but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. Everything they do is done for people to see” (Matthew 23:3–5).
———
The scribes and Pharisees were supposed to know God and help others know Him and follow His ways. Instead, the religious leaders added to God’s Law, making it a cumbersome and onerous burden. And they did not follow God with a pure heart.
—— Their religion was not true worship of God; rather, it was rooted in a prideful heart. Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount emphasises the true intent of the Law over the letter of the Law. The scribes and Pharisees emphasised the letter, but sadly, completely missing its spirit. Has much changed with the spiritual leaders of today?
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It is obviously not what Canon law says but I think custom and practice on the ground has been quite different. I myself was brought up Anglican and confirmation is a HUGE thing for Anglicans and never done by a priest. When I went through RCIA I was confirmed by a religious priest from the US, who told me that things had changed since Vatican 2 and confirmation was regularly but not always administered by a priest and this was no big deal. This is not to excuse their lordships but to comment that custom and practice on the ground may have differed and canon law been routinely ignored for years?
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The comments above telling Pat to mind his own business are hilarious.
What’s the matter, Fathers, been missed out for a mitre?
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I wonder what will happen to erstwhile of the underground now he has admitted failing to act upon direct reports of abuse and, the subsequent coverup in attempt to conceal failings and blame all on the victim? He is currently in/on retreat; hardly around of late. The clergy, and people, of the Archdiocese are not one little bit happy and some have made this known.
Will the Police act, or will they fail to act, is the current question? If the Police do fail to take action the papers may report this, also.
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The rectors of the English-speaking seminaries are in Maynooth. All the lads are putting on a good show and being on best behaviour.
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DD blocked me on Grindr. I was only admiring his topless pic
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SOMEONE REPORT BISHOP NOEL TREANOR, NEVER DOES CONFORMATIONS INSTEAD HE IS CONSIDERING WHAT EXPENSIVE ANTIQUE HE WILL BUY!
#bringbackpaddywalsh
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Bishop Casey Confirmed me in Galway Diocese. He was such an improvement on the experience of Bishop Browne who terrified all and sundry, teachers, children, parents. Say what you like about Casey, but he was excellent right up to the day he, sadly, ran away at the behest of the hierarchy. Since then, Galway has had a don’t rock the boat bishop, an absent from Confirmation (and most other things) bishop, and now a man who has finally fulfilled his dream of being Bishop of Galway and is like Hitler in his bunker surrounded by his minions. No wonder none of my family are practicing and I am just hanging on by my fingernails… just.
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3.11
Just let go…and experience the freedom of a true child of God, rather than a ‘subject’ of the Romanist patriarchy.
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”No wonder none of my family are practicing and I am just hanging on by my fingernails… just”
place your trust in God not in men. The church needs people with courage to speak truth to power. you’re just a pussy who takes a sedentary position while giving about all n sundry. take your ‘just’ and just jump !
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3:11, another moaner. get a grip of yourself, I’m sure the RCC will do fine without your likes. do you need directions to larne?
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3.36
I know what needs gripping. And it ain’t the poster at 3.11.😎
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3:35, very naughty of you, but since you insist, come around after 6. bring KY Jelly.
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3.36: You are right. All these moaners won’t volunteer for anything in their parishes. They sit like gossipers, judging all before them. And, if they had the conviction of their opinions, they’d go to The Oratory in Larne where they’ll find the “perfect church”.. But these same moaners would quickly discover many flaws and failungs at the Oratory. So off you go – the moaners society!! Pat awaits your company.
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4.18
You’re doing a pretty good job in moaning yerself. 😃
(Just pointin’ out the bleedin’ obvious, like.😉)
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More anti-catholic extremism! How is this hate speech allowed?
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People are allowed to be anti Catholic and express it. Freedom of speech
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there freedom of speech and there’s hate speech. so lets call this for what it is
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The truth is Pat that you are MC and getting people to react to your blog. Everybody has reached that conclusion. We are not dafties
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4.02
Humbug!
Excoriating Romanist clerics, these social parasites, isn’t anti-Catholicism; it is the duty of every Christian. These parasites aren’t Christian: they are a malevolent influence.
Consider the enormous damage they have done to individual persons and souls, to the Church, to faith and hope in Jesus Christ. And yet, they arrogantly carry on as if their hands are morally spotless.
Grow up.
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4.15: But Magna, your not a Christian. Far from it. More Satanic (with the support of gin and t’s) as your hatred reveals. 🐃🐃🐃🐃🐃.
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4.14
Hate speech isn’t necessarily hate crime.
Stop conflating the two.
Makes you look stupid. 😕
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4:26, are you for real. I’m literally laughing at that right now lol. you’re some thicko HAHAHA
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who mentioned anything about a crime? you’re the one talking about crime Mc Carta. why is that :/.
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5.29
So what’s wrong with expressing hatred?😕
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”So what’s wrong with expressing hatred?😕”
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you, Magna Carta !
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7.08
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you (drum roll)…GOD!
Read Hosea, and Psalm 5, for example, to discover how much God hates. And you must believe that he does, because Scripture is inspired, isn’t it, by God himself.
Paul certainly thought so. (2 Tim 3: 16) 😆
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can ye believe this drivel at 7:26 🤣
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6.36
You are, you know. ‘Dafties’.
Cos Pat really isn’t I. 😆
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not that long ago you had a big rant at Pat for supporting Romanists priests and declaring you wouldn’t be coming on the blog again. 2 weeks later you come back. what a tool 🤣😂
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lol@ Rita. I remember that very well.
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4.03: Pat, your understanding of freedom of speech is very self serving. You should always remember that with freedom of speech comes moral and ethical responsibilities for the effect your vitriol and hate inciting words can have on individuals. You have neither a moral or ethical compass. You live in your own bubble where everyone else is wrong and you are right. You need to seriously reenage with moral theology.
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4.13
Bullshit!
What was Jesus doing when he exclaimed at the Pharisees, ‘Fools!’?
What was he doing when he called them ‘whited sepulchres’?
What was he doing when he said they ‘strained a gnat, but swallowed a camel’?
And all the rest.
Vitriol? Jesus himself was adept at expressing it about the Pharisees and Sadducees.
As for re-engaging with Moral Theology, would that be the Romanist patriarchal crap that, contrary to Jesus’ own teaching, said that it was morally appropriate not to love certain enemies?
That taught innoculation against disease was a sin?
Which taught that women in child birth should not be given pain relief because God wanted them to feel the ‘pangs’ of labour?
No; what has raised your hackles is the hubris that Romanist clerics should be beyond reproach.
Go back to the 19th century. We don’t listen to people like you anymore.
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Comments by Fr Moral-Compass are always good value for their short sighted lack of self awareness.
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4.40: Bullshit…..Magna. Why don’t you rewrite the gospels? Why repeat your abuse yet again?
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4:13
What moral or ethical compass were bishops, who covered up for child rapists and abusers of vulnerable adults, following?
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BREAKING NEWS!
An apocryphal Gospel, unknown for centuries, has been found in the attic of the Abbey of Monte Oliveto near Siena. In the weeks to come the monks will digitise and translate the texts, but variant readings already released include the incident at sea where Jesus told his disciples, ‘Whatever you do, don’t rock the boat’ and the parable where he told the disciples not to waste the good wine on their ho’s but to give it to the PP. Fr Fanny Doolally, an expert on theology, said, ‘This Gospel will shine a fascinating light on church history and were clearly an important repository of the Magisterium’. When asked whether this Gospel appeared to justify things hitherto thought to be abuses, he refused to comment.
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Stupid c**t @4.56pm
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6.32
Actually, I thought the poster’s comment novel, and quite funny.
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7:30, THANKS! normally you verbally abuse me!
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It takes a little intelligence to appreciate the humour in 4:56’s satirical gospel. Read it again and use your intelligence to think again……..if you are able.
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Pat, I meant to say that this post includes the two most ridiculous words put together in the context of the church: competent and authority 🤣
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Any news of Captain Underpants Pat?
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Not yet
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Magna, today’s wird of God is apt for you: “My dear brothers, be quick to listen but slow to speak andcrouse your temper: GOD’S RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NEVER SERVED BY MAN’S ANGER….” Very apt for you. Your vile, vulgar and faux anger serves no purpose and achieves nothing.
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6.11
Jesus was pretty pissed off in the Court of the Gentiles.😠
Did his anger not serve the divine purpose, then?
Maybe you should tell him where he went wrong. 😕
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7.32: Magna, Jesus didn’t go wrong: It’s people like you who went wrong- in a myriad of perverted ways. All too abusively and ugly.
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Fr Ray Kelly has told RTE he has received abuse about being on its dancing show. He’s compared it to the death of Caroline Flak ffs.
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But Ray didn’t assault his boy friend did he?
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any need for that comment, pat?
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6:34, that’s a low blow, even by your standards.
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6.34: Thank God that we who follow Jesus Christ accept he reveals fully the MERCY of God. Were any of us to practice Pat’s sense of gospel mercy, we’d have no hope of eternal salvation. I fail to understand Pat’s need to make insinuations about any person in an attempt to create headlines, solely based on innuendo and deliberate gossip. Why in God’s earth would you make such a comment? This is not a harmless comment: it is deliberately meant to hurt and cause much upset. Explain yourself, Mr. Bully boy!
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I’ve print screened it and sent it to a number of famous twitter accounts.
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Pat, Seriously? 😕
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Who really gives a rats ass about this. The church in Ireland and worldwide is gone. Forget the church. Life is more simple in the real world.
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I know you don’t particularly like “Lugs” Monahan but he does 90% of his confirmations himself and retired Willie Walsh does the other 10% in the Cathedral and surrounding parishes. He may be a dictator in his diocese but you can’t but think at least he is hands on as a pastor…
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What crap!! Hi Noel sense you are writing that.
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In Westminster, most confirmations are done by the parish priest – unless you are in the Ordinariate where you will get a man dressed up pretending to be a Bishop. However, should you opt to be confirmed in the Old Rite, a bishop – usually Sherrington – will be miraculously provided for you. What Elsie and the others are doing is anyone’s guess.
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@9.03pm total fake and false news. A bishop in England will always confirm and even in Westminster. I know one elderly bishop who will drive 140 mile round trip to confirm. Elsie might have faults but she knows her Canon Law. It’s the Irish episcopate who have become lazy. The English and Welsh lot could teach them a few things including manners
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I see, Father, so you confirm that every confirmation candidate in England receives the sacrament from a bishop? It does my heart good – or would if I could believe you.
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Irish bishops alert – Cuckoo, Sarah is watching you
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Pat the local Goss up your way is the paint bombers got the wrong church. They thought you were on Agnew Street (protestant name). Whoever committed the offence needs reporting to the police.
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They ignore canon law? Big deal, since they ignore civil law and Christs teachings. They are a law unto themselves. Bloody parasites the whole lot of them. Who needs canon law? Are Christs teachings not enough? Seriously, who do these balloons think they are, running about in their fancy robes with their golden crucifixes hanging from their necks? Their Christ is still on the cross. Mine’s off it(and it was a wooden one while I’m at it- not a polished golden one).What in Gods name are people thinking following all this garbage? It is the greatest swindle of all time. And yet, the sheep continue to follow. They have assets of £181 million while thousands do without. It would be easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle…… Absolute swindle
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10.45
Superb and principled post.
Yes, what is Down on Connor doing with such kingly assets when people are dying for want of basic necessities.
Look to that retared-presenting cretin, Treanor. But you won’t get any answers from this Croesus.😕
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10.45: Isn’t your Christianity just marvellous, you utter clown. Go and reread the gospels of mercy, tolerance, respect and justice. Clown.
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