John L. Allen Jr. Crux Now
Pope Francis holds his general audience at the Vatican, Wednesday, March 11, 2020. Pope Francis held his weekly general audience in the privacy of his library as the Vatican implemented Italy’s drastic coronavirus lockdown measures, barring the general public from St. Peter’s Square and taking precautions to limit the spread of infections in the tiny city state. For most people, the new coronavirus causes only mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough. For some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia. (Credit: Vatican News via AP.)
ROME – Despite his pessimism, Schopenhauer nevertheless was a pretty sharp cookie. Among his other contributions to Western thought and language, he apparently coined the phrase “buying time.” The relevant line from his 1851 Counsels and Maxims is, “To buy books would be a good thing if we also could buy the time to read them.”
Since then, “buying time” has become the preferred expression whenever a looming deadline or expiration date is extended, either by cunning or happenstance, granting a temporary reprieve to whoever’s under the gun.
In a nutshell, that’s the situation for Pope Francis and his Vatican team today: Facing a ticking clock on several fronts, the coronavirus has bought them some time. The question is how they’ll use it.
Here are at least five fronts where the question is especially urgent.
Severe restrictions imposed by the Italian government to combat the spread of the coronavirus originally were set to last until Friday, April 3, which is two days before Palm Sunday. Among other things, all public Masses in Italy have been suspended. (In case you’re wondering, the timing wasn’t coincidental. Despite it all, Italians still take Holy Week seriously.)
However, officials in China’s Wuhan province announced only Tuesday that they would begin lifting their own controls, a full 50 days after imposing them, because that’s how long it took for the infection rate to drop to a point where it was considered safe. If a similar arc unfolds here, it would push well beyond the April 12 date of Easter, meaning the Vatican and bishops in areas potentially facing similar measures need to be planning now for a Holy Week under lockdown.
For one thing, it would lend added importance to TV broadcasts of Pope Francis’s Holy Week liturgies – which almost certainly will still happen, though without crowds – because a good swath of the Catholic population in Italy and other affected areas may not otherwise have access to Mass and the sacraments. Ironically, the situation could produce the best ratings and online traffic numbers the Holy Week liturgies have ever drawn, which is all the more reason to take them seriously.
Four days ago, the Mexican bishops’ conference announced that a visit planned for March 20-27 by Maltese Archbishop Charles Scicluna, Assistant Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and Pope Francis’s point man on the clerical abuse crisis, and Spanish Monsignor Jordi Bertomeu, had been postponed to an indefinite future date because of the coronavirus scare.
Scicluna and Bertomeu, who ran an investigation of abuse cases in Chile that led to an en masse offer to resign by all of Chile’s bishops, were headed to Mexico because of a perception that it would be the next bomb to go off in the Church’s scandals. Mexico was already the epicenter of a crisis surrounding the late Father Marcial Maciel Degollado and his Legion of Christ, and the pope’s ambassador in the country said in announcing the investigation that at least four Mexican bishops have been accused of abuse cover-ups.
Right now nobody’s beating down the Vatican’s door to find out how it plans to handle the Mexican situation – in part, because restrictions on entry to St. Peter’s Square these days mean that most people can’t even reach the door. Sooner or later, however, the question will arise again.
The McCarrick Report
Speaking of things no one’s asking about right now, the Vatican still hasn’t issued its long-awaited report on who knew what, and when, about abuse and misconduct charges against ex-cardinal and ex-priest Theodore McCarrick.
Before the coronavirus broke out, Vatican officials on background were telling reporters and others that the report is basically ready, that it’s being readied for translation and distribution, and that it should appear soon. Observers around the world, and especially in the United States, have pointed to the report as a crucial test of the Vatican’s commitment to transparency.
In a similar fashion, whether there are consequences for officials named in the report as having contributed to McCarrick’s long run in power despite concerns about possible abuse and misconduct is also seen as a test of accountability, something Pope Francis has extolled as key to a serious reform.
Given how much is at stake, this is probably a good time to be trying to make the report as bullet-proof as possible … because whenever it does finally appear, it’s likely the big guns will be out.
Another document expected to come out soon before the coronavirus put things on hold was Praedicate Evangelium, the working title of Pope Francis’s new apostolic constitution on the Roman Curia. It’s designed to institutionalize, and give legal shape, to his much-ballyhooed reform of the Vatican.
The stakes were already high, given perceptions in many quarters that at least to date, the reform has been more verbal than real. They became even higher over the past weekend, when the Vatican first announced the creation of a new HR office as a “step of great importance” in reform, and then, just over 24 hours later, made a second announcement indicating that the office is just an idea, not a fait accompli, and the pope will decide in his own good time.
The about-face left many insiders scratching their heads, wondering who’s running this railroad. It hasn’t had much of an external echo so far because of the distraction of the coronavirus, but that won’t last forever.
Prior to the coronavirus crisis, Moneyval, the Council of Europe’s anti-money laundering agency, was set to conduct its next evaluation of the Vatican towards the end of April.
The smart bet seemed to be it wouldn’t go especially well, following a recent scandal over a more than $200 million land deal in London carried out by the Secretariat of State, which, among other things, triggered the departure last November of the Vatican figure most respected in the international regulatory community, Swiss lawyer René Brülhart.
Should Moneyval conclude that the Vatican is backtracking on reform, it could inscribe the Vatican on “blacklists” of suspect actors, which could freeze it out of international markets or significantly inflate its transaction costs.
Almost certainly, the Moneyval evaluation will be delayed – but “delayed” is not the same thing as “canceled,” and eventually the Vatican will have to answer the questions its inspectors are almost certain to ask.
Now, therefore, would be a great time to figure out what those answers might be.
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The sad fact is that the Vatican will is any and every excuse to become transparent.
The Vatican and the RCC are totally lost causes.
Even if Jesus Christ himself appeared to the pope and cardinals and asked for transparency they would still refuse.
In fact, if they could, they would crucify him all over again I’m St. Peter’s Square.
The Pharisees of 2000 years ago have been replaced today by the hierarchy of the RCC.
THE ORATORY HAS CANCELLED ALL MASSES.
I have decided to cancel all Masses atThe Oratory for the foreseeable future.
As the Coronavirus crisis gets worse we all need to do everything we can to protect others and ourselves.
106 replies on “CORONAVIRUS SCARE HAS BOUGHT THE VATICAN SOME TIME….HOW WILL THEY USE IT?”
Pat, I wish you well in these changing times. Csncelking the Oratory masses is wise. I’ve also cancelled all masses as we normally have 1750 for 5 weekend masses and 200 for our 3 daily Lenten Masses. All cancelled. Our church will remain open every day with Adoration of Blessed Sacrament and prayer. Funerals obviously will go ahead under the HSE guidelines. I hope we all pray earnestly and be caring towards the most needy and vulnerable. Tgere had a palpable sense of panic and anxiety, so supporting one another through prayer and charity is essential.
Supporting one another by telling people to get a bloody grip of themselves would be far more effective, but I suppose such practicalities wouldn’t occur to a superstitious mind like yours.
But then again, perhaps it already did, priest. However, you’re enjoying the attention you’re getting from people now, aren’t you? Not the usual attention your kiddie-fiddling crowd gets, but the Oh, Father! Help me! Pray for me! Oh, Faaaaaather! That kind of attention, priest. Feels good, doesn’t it? And the Mass so-called ‘offerings’ (in reality, ‘payments for God’s freely given grace’): these are the proverbial icing, aren’t they, priest? And I’d bet your plump, sweaty palm is being crossed with an abundance of currency these days: Offer a Mass, for me, Father. Offer a Mass! It all makes you feel very important, doesn’t it priest? A very pleasant respite from the way in which you kiddie-fiddling parasites are now usually, and rightly, regarded.
Why, priest, are people panicking? Yes, I know about the hype surrounding Co-vid 19. But this isn’t the bottom line here. People are panicking because they are afraid of death. And why, really, are they afraid of death? Because they are caca-scared of the monster post-mortem you Romanist parasites have had them worship, and through this your kiddie-fiddling selves.
Take your fearmongering, false, Romanist religion priest, and press it right down to Hell, where it belongs, since it has no home in Heaven.
Go on go on hi. Have a cuppa tea hi
If this were Bible times this virus would be a curse from God. It does show that humans are not invincible and money is only as good as those who believe in it
The so-called Church of England has never had to worry about crowds gathering, lol. How many people go to your church, rev Page? Is it five or six?
Ciaran O’Carroll is the real problem
No! This hysterical idiocy will peak before the 12th Fornight. (And God bless the Orange men and women, the only bulwarlk to Roman Catholic totalitarianism on this Romanist, priest-infested island.)
And the retard, Noel Treanor, will, AGAIN, have egg all over his sub-normal face. 😅
Can you imagine Ireland free of Romanist clerical, kiddie-fiddling SCUM? These PERVERTS gone, for good?
The kids would be safer, and no mistake. 😉
Well, actually Ireland as a whole would be better off without the dominating influence of a Church that has presided over such sinfulness. It’s not the core message, the Gospel, that is the problem. It is the institutional Church, it’s bishops and priests, and those who have for centuries established themselves as power brokers and special interest groups at the expense of the majority, and usually by means of such control mechanisms as sin and guilt. While I do not particularly relish MC’s intemperate and offensive language, he is right about there needing to be a radical change, and it needs to begin with the institutional Church and its apparatchiks, the priests and bishops.
HERE HERE MAGNA
11.04: So another of Magna’s trailer trash, bandwagoner followers. The wheels must be pretty rusty on this bandwagon of hatred. Hope your fall will be spectacular down a cliff edge … the adventure won’t be so funny for you but the test of us will quietly offer God our gratitude.
Is that Christian?
This hysterical idiocy will continue for much longer than currently envisaged. Forget the 12th.
It will peak in April or May, provided the UK has truly sealed its borders after leaving the open-border madhouse thst is the European Union.
11.21: More drink fuelled ignorant hatred. One really wonders what point or meaning there can be to Magna’s life with all this demonic hatred? We’ll keep praying to God for you. Pat, try to save this guy from tipping over the edge by refusing to print the repetitive hate sentiments. You would greatly enhance your moral integrity and win back some of your more balanced, decent, rational and intelligent contributors.
11.38: Pat the comment at 11.37 is not Christian but is very funny, especially if we visualise the screams of “help me Fr…. please…” from Margarine Carty. 😆😆😆😆😆😅😅😁😁😁🎃🎃🎃🎃…thoughts of Marge give us a good laugh…..
More sickness @ 2:49pm
It’s likely to peak in June or July. No knowing how long it will last.
Probably worse in UK with current policy.
First case in China was in November. Ongoing there, but thankfully less cases and deaths.
Forget the 12th.
Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Magna!
Ja! Ja! 🙃
The most bizarre thing here is the idea that the curia would be related to the preaching of the gospel in any way! Surely it is the safe home for those who will avoid preaching the gospel at all costs!
Latest from + Vin:
1. …”the right measures are to be introduced at the right time…” In other words, he’s going with the official Government / Boris advice to keep on buggering on regardless. While the rest of the world for the most part is taking definitive, tough, measures to prevent the spread of coronavirus. Such as cancelling all Masses, except those that are streamed. So, why does + Vin and our other bishops not grasp the nettle and do what the rest of the world is doing, rather than listening to and following the self-serving, politicised, advice of the Boris Government ? Churches will be closed eventually. So, + Vin, why not lead the way, early, and with immediate effect ? You know it makes sense, no matter what Bozza is saying.
2. Receiving Holy Communion on the tongue: ”…if there are those who still wish to insist on this right….” to receive HC on the tongue. Almost two thirds of his statement deal with the issue of how to administer HC, and particularly about the loony right wing traditionalist element that insists as a right to receive it on the tongue, regardless of the current health risks. He explains all kinds of positions / accommodations with regard to them, – asking them nicely, providing for individual administration after Mass, imploring them to make spiritual communion. WTF ? Who does these people think they are, that they, and nobody else, is right, and insisting on a right that puts other people in jeopardy, and that even when the Church gives advice. Why does + Vin / pander to these selfish nitwits ?
3. ” ….the elderly are our treasure who enrich our lives and our wisdom. We must do all we can always to nurture and protect them…” Absolutely. He’s got that right there. Well done. +Vin !
4. Addressing the priests and encouraging them to look after themselves, “…note of concern for you. Many of us are in the more vulnerable age group…” No shit. Statement of the obvious. The Catholic Church is staffed by those who for the most part in any other walk / way of life would already be in genteel retirement. I suppose his Westminster priests will chuckle to themselves at his new found concern for them, because for the most part (unless you are in his favoured group , + Vin treats his priests with cruel indifference.
5. It is clear that a. all public Masses should be suspended; b. Mass can be live-streamed; c. the selfish, arrogant right wing traditionalists should be told where to get off; d.Pope Frank and the Vatican seem to be more switched on that + Vin and taking the right action. + Vin is pandering to the Government, to the Traddies, and there will be a good reason for that, to do with money and power and influence.
You sound nice.
Pat, I am pleading with you for today to disallow the repeat offensive, racist, nasty and poisonous comments from Magna. Day after day your blog is dominated by a vendetta of hatred against priests. You must realise how hurtful, destructive and immoral these words of hate are! Can you not, as you did before, be ruthlessly discerning with the tit for tat contributors whose words are very dangerous.
I will take your plea into account.
I wish that Magna made the same points he makes with more considered words and expressions.
10.19: Thank you Pat for your considered response. This virus spreading through our countryside is a moment for all of us to stop, reflect, pray, be together in caring. Undoubtedly, like other priests, you find yourself in a dilemma and have legitimate concerns for yourself and those who need your spiritual support. This comingvweek we have 4 funerals, 2 who died in European countries concerns back …so myself and Church staff have concerns. I am not deflecting from Church problems – such problems have been aired many times – but I do not believe the comments of Magna are appropriate, rational or necessary. Thanknyou Pat snd wevwill all.pray for one another. We are, for now, capable of rising above language that is destructive and which breaks down rather than builds up one another.
Surely people who died in European countries will surely travel back in sealed lead lines coffins which will reduce or cancel threats?
Pat Buckley at 10:19am HE WON’T! The troll that goes under the name “Magna Carta” will do no such thing! And well you know it. It’s utterly deranged at this stage. But you continue to permit it’s vicious and crazy abuse. The creature behind it must be demonic.
Folks complaining about the “M Carta” troll? The best approach to this creature is ignore it. Don’t rise to its bait.
Seriously folks, replying to it, arguing with it, etc., you will never never win. Stop wasting your batteries for crying out loud.
The thing is deranged. If it was in real life, you would lock your door and call the police. You certainly wouldn’t approach, or attempt to engage in rational debate, with an individual who makes statements such as this troll makes on Pat Buckley’s blog – such as the one 5:17pm!!!
I suggest everyone sends the troll and its ‘admirers’ to “Coventry”. When you engage, the troll rubs its hands and its grist to its mill. So let it have its hateful rants and don’t respond.
The one person who could do something about the troll of course is the blog owner. And he chooses to do nothing.
The Maynooth Pit is a real room. I was there and watched the ritual
10:32, you damn your own soul. there is no place in the kingdom of God for liars
Go away Mullaney obsessive, ex Seminarian booted out. Deal with your drink problem and move on with your life. Stop using this blog to air your grievances because we can now spot you a mile away.
Pat I think we are looking at the end of human existence. It’s only the slow start.
I dont think so. It’s bad but not world ending.
Vaccine is being worked on, flat out.
It is reported in online bioethics journal, trials on humans may begin more quickly than normal, such is the urgency. Preliminary trials on lab animals have proved positive. Scientists working on vaccine since soon after outbreak in China.
I too think it’s the beginning of the end and I also believe we are now enduring germ warfare from sinister elements. We are not being told the full story here. Wait for the financial crash globally next and everything will collapse.
+Pat: Make the distinction between the end of human existence and the world ending.
Human life as we experience it is a relatively recent arrival in earth’s existence and will certainly change and/or cease, while ‘mothership earth’ will continue in some shape or form.
Much current human thinking is very short term and short sighted as witnessed by our widespread destruction of the environment.
Sir David Attenborough ‘s upcoming “A life On Our Planet” to be screened in April will be instructive…….to those willing to listen, but probably given lip service by powerbrokers more interested in personal short term objectives.
Oh, good grief! 😡
If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs. Kipling, Rudyard.
Get a grip, folks. And make Rudyard ‘s words meaningful. 😀
I’m with Rudyard.
I would have thought it was obvious how the curia will be using the time: shredding so that they can make out complaints of abuse never got there (with a mental reservation of course).
This will have the added advantage that the shredded records can be sold to Andrex. Purely out of selflessness, you understand.
From Mail online. http://www.dailymail.co.uk
First human trials of coronavirus vaccine could start within days in the US after it bypassed animal testing in accelerated process
‘The vaccine skipped animal testing stage and will be used on healthy volunteers
If the ‘genetic hack’ proves safe, it will be used on patients who have coronavirus
Massachusetts-based Moderna made candidate cure but using unusual methods
It comes as scientists in the UK said vaccine could be tested on humans by June.’
By James Gant For Mailonline
Published: 09:57, 14 March 2020 | Updated: 10:03, 14 March 2020
‘The first human trials of a coronavirus vaccine are to be launched within days, scientists in the US have said.
The ‘genetic hack’ was accelerated past the animal testing stage and will be used on healthy volunteers, then patients if it deemed safe. It comes as scientists in Britain said a vaccine could be tested on humans by June after encouraging results on mice.Massachusetts-based Moderna created the candidate cure but have taken a different route to traditional techniques. Normally a weaker bug is planted in the body so a patient can adapt to fight off the infection.
But the new method sees messenger RNA stimulates the immune system to make similar proteins to the killer virus, which it can then combat.The vaccine prototype is being funded by the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, with the foundation’s Dr Melanie Saville telling the Telegraph: ‘Contain and delay is the approach taken in the UK and a number of different countries. ‘The approaches are really to buy time in the context of the stretch it puts on the healthcare system – it also buys time for vaccines to be developed.
‘We don’t know how the pandemic will evolve, whether, for example, it comes in various different waves.’
The coronavirus, which causes a disease called COVID-19 – and has killed nearly 5,000 people globally – cannot currently be cured or prevented. American researches spearheading the fight against the deadly bug admit hopes of millions of vaccines within a year are ‘aspirational’. And in a further blow for Britain, any cure would not be able to halt the anticipated peak in cases in May. But UK researchers, led by Mucosal Infection and Immunity head Dr Robin Shattock, said they have successfully trialled a vaccine in mice and are hopeful it could be ready for human trials by June. Senior researcher Dr Paul McKay, of Imperial College London, told the Express: ‘I’ve got results from a month after I injected (the mice) and the vaccine works really, really well.’ The team is working with scientists in Paris to determine the vaccine’s effectiveness in monkeys. Dr McKay said they have applied for further funding from the Medical Research Council to conduct human clinical trials. ‘If we get the funding for the human clinical trials, we will put it into people by June,’ he said. ‘If British scientists here develop a vaccine it would be great if the Government supported it.’ Should the human trials be successful, the team is hopeful the vaccine will be available for patients in a year. People who catch the illness have to be isolated and wait for their body to fight it off, with medical help if they need it for symptoms or more serious infection. A working vaccine could stop the bug in its tracks and some experts think it could become a recurring fixture in human society in the same way colds and flu are.
Some scientists and medical experts are concerned rushing a vaccine could end up worsening the infection in some patients rather than preventing it.
Studies have suggested that coronavirus vaccines carry the risk of what is known as vaccine enhancement, where instead of protecting against infection, the vaccine can actually make the disease worse when a vaccinated person is infected with the virus. The mechanism that causes the risk is not fully understood and is one of the stumbling blocks that has prevented the successful development of a coronavirus vaccine. Normally, researchers would take months to test for the possibility of vaccine enhancement in animals. Given the urgency to stem the spread of the new coronavirus, some drugmakers are moving straight into small-scale human tests, without waiting for the completion of such animal tests.
There remains no vaccine for any of the new coronaviruses that have caused outbreaks in the past 20 years.’
Maybe self-sacrificing priests could offer themselves as human guinea pigs in the testing stage in order to do a service for humanity ? After all, they don’t have wives and children, and they are supposed to be in the business of being Christlike, and a main characteristic of that is self-sacrifice. I think they could redeem themselves of the sinful abusive behaviour of their brother priests by such an altruistic gift. Just saying…..
Not that they will……
Why dont you lead by example gobshite @11.46am and offer yourself up. Seeing that you are full of ideas why not put yourself forward as a pig – sorry guinea pig.
11.46: Magna In disguise….such a noble idea! You, sir, cannot disguise your shit brain. Another plonker trivializing a very serious pandemic. I trust you are following guidelnes…and apart from constant hand washing try washing your filthy tongue too!
What a truly beautiful idea! Just think : for once in their useless, sponging lives, these parasites might actually do some good.
You sure know how to get reaction. People don’t respond to this troll because he thinks he’s now settled in for the evening to get all your reactions by being deliberately provocative. Starve the troll and do not respond. Let’s isolate him.
4.05: Either you have gone totally psychopathic or are completely out of your mind on drink – whatever explanation, you are pure filth. It is beyond fathoming that, in the midst of great anxiety for all of us, you stand alone in epitomizing hatred. Thank God you live in a lonely world away from us all.
As much chance of that as…as isolating Co-vid 19! 😀
A-hah hah hah 😅😅😅
(Just bein’ splendidly non-isolationist, like. 😎)
It is good you are cancelling all Masses at the Oratory for the time being, Bp Pat.
Abp Turtle also said hand sanitisers would be provided at each church, while priests and ministers will have to sanitise their hands before and after distributing Holy Communion.
Mail online should be taken with a great pinch of salt. No need to reproduce their long load of trash. It always carries the most alarmist headlines and funds the Tories. Enough said.
Good luck with hand sanitisers. They are scarcer than gold dust!
I am awaiting a delivery from Switzerland.
You must follow Abp Turtle’s advice, Bp Pat.
MASS TODAY AT 12 NOON
I will celebrate Mass today at noon alone.
I will be praying for Gods intervention on CORONAVIRUS.
Thank you, + Pat.
Pat WILL pitt still be open?
Will you still be be here in a week’s time?
By Alice Park. February 25, 2020.
‘Moderna Therapeutics, a biotech company based in Cambridge, Mass., has shipped the first batches of its COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine was created just 42 days after the genetic sequence of the COVID_19 virus, called SARS-CoV-2, was released by Chinese researchers in mid-January. The first vials were sent to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, MD, which will ready the vaccine for human testing as early as April.’
Just finishing watching The Young Pope. Now on to watch The New Pope. Nice to relax indoors and catch up on some TV.
If anyone is interested (and has Netflix), there is an acclaimed new movie cum documentary on St Patrick now showing. I intend to watch it later today.
I do hope that Patrick wasn’t a sponging presence in Ireland; he certainly bequeathed the island a load of clerical wastrels and spongers, not to mention kiddie-fiddlers. 😀
You truly are an utterly loathsome creature at 4:12pm.
I do not spare any effort to be so. 😆
Ironic of course that he could have been Welsh, Scottish or English, but certainly wasn’t Irish 🙂
He was a Romano-Brit, more likely Welsh or English rather than Scottish. My money is on his being English, since the Roman presence in Wales was largely a military one, with far fewer Roman civilian settlements than England.
I believe that Patrick was abducted from what is now known in England as the ‘West Country’ (Devon and Cornwall). Incidentally, the West Country is the habitational origin of my surname.
4.12: Here we go again. Magna, are we to assume that you imbibe all the fine qualities of our great Patron Saint, St. Patrick? ABSOLUTELY NOT. This comment is sufficient evidence that St. Patrick is required once again to rid our country of poisonous snakes, you being the most pernicious.
How do you know Patrick’s qualities? From his ‘Confessio’? ‘Ego, Patricius’…and all that?
Self-trumpeting is never reliable.😕
Patrick was defending himself in that self-panegyric work against certain charges. People do tend, even ‘saints’, to personal hyperbole in those circumstances.
4.12: Pat, it is outrageous that you continue to print the obnoxious, hateful and dangerous language of Magna. He has been allowed to constantly and repeatedly use hate inciting words against priests. Why are you tolerating this? He is contaminating your blog with the virus of hate. Today and inn the next few days, like many priests, perhaps you too, I have to accompany 4 families in their grief on the death of loved ones. Visiting two families today was not easy. Apart from their loss and grief they are anxious and fearful about the coronavirus. These families have other elderly loved ones and are concerned about visitors to our church, despite restrictions with numbers. Many people, except the snake Magna, are kind, caring and decent at this time. I find Magna’s comnent insulting and ignorant. Surely these days are opportunities to promote kindness, tolerance, help, neighbourliness, prayerful support and genuine good wishes, not the smart, destructive narrative of selfishness, as exemplufied by Magna. God help us all in these times.
I’d bet your fat, oily palm is well greased with the hard-earned cash of those poor people.
And I’d further bet that you don’t PERFORM a funeral for nothing, you money-grubbing parasite.
7.09: Magna, we are not surprised at your madness anymore. You are pitiable. Sad that your brain is destroyed by the gin but even sadder that it’s in the deep shits as well. You are a horrible human being. God bless our good priests at this time as I witness them in our parish really caring for their parishioners. It’s unfathomable how you have descended to such depths of depravity…
Magna at 7.09: Actually, unlike you, I’m skinny, tall, handsome, I dare say, have lovely skin colour and I’m a priest – surprise, surprise, a gift denied you, I understand, from the many commentators on this blog, thus your nastiness, jealousy and unresolved shame. I couldn’t really care what my donations are, but I am glad I am of help, support, care and kindness to parishioners, especially as they come to us (priests) requesting guidance and prayer. God is good and I only wish you could allow His goodness transform you into a more joyful, loving human being. Miracles can happen, so, Magna, I pray you’ll be open to GOD, about whom you seem to know much but I’m not so certain that you’ve allowed God to embrace you with his love.
6.08 pm – I wholeheartedly agree. This blog should be open to all views on church matters, but closed to the offensive expression of any view. There is, or should be, such a thing as the ‘decencies of controversy.’
God bless you in your tough work this week.
Who cares what YOU think? Seriously?
Take yourself off and consider how many unjust judgements you made during your ‘career’ as a boring old fart on the bench.
How many reputations and lives you ruined through supercilious maljudgements, you pompous…😕
‘Good’ priests caring…? A-hah hah hah 😅😅😅
Are you Dumb or Dumber? These parasites ‘care’ only in so far as the amount of cash that is pressed into their grasping palms by ‘grateful’ parishoners.
It is all a pious con, love.
Grow up a little before you die.😕
Sorry, but ‘skinny’ AND ‘handsome’? 😅 There’s a conflict of interest there, don’t you think? Skinny does not equal handsome.
But you don’t, do you?
4.05: Either you have gone totally psychopathic or are completely out of your mind on drink – whatever explanation, you are pure filth. It is beyond fathoming that, in the midst of great anxiety for all of us, you stand alone in epitomizing hatred. Thank God you live in a lonely world away from us all.
6.08 and 6.22: The best way to deal with cyber bullies is to ignore their comments. It is appalling that this hateful person, Magna, is given the platform of this blog to encourage a total hatred of priests. I am really puzzled by Pat’s facilitation of this unacceptable, daily, almost hourly outpouring of vitriol. I trust that Pat will listen.
Were you looking at your reflection while you typed that supercilious nonsense?
I’d bet you read and reread it to yourself before posting. Probably asked your partner, too, how it sounded before doing so. 😩
7.22: Now, Carta, you are being “supervirilious”, (a poison virus). Before I typed, I thought of a monster called Magna Carta and I tried to visualise “it” in my mind and what a task. Rhinos, hippos, buffalo, snakes, rats…all kept flowing befor me with the initials MC: a bloody nightmare!
Richard L Pat Buckley will not listen. He enjoys it!
Brendan Marshall is
7.09…..none of your business…..you piece of vermin.
Right. Gotta go, folks.
Off t’ visit m’ dear old dad.
He loves me, y’ know. 😕
I hope he’s not in lockdown already.
No, he isn’t.
Well, no thanks to you, dear.
7.46: He should be in lockdown for his own safety from his dangerous lunatic of a son…the deranged malcontent…all because he was found out in the seminary…as: u-n-s-u-i-t-a-b-l-e.
7.27: Mags the Rot: disinfect your whole body before visiting anyone…Be brave, be a REAL Man and show your father (if he’s alive) the hate inciting comments you’ve posted in this blog. Or, would you be ashamed to do so? I bet you’d have no such courage. And if your ‘father’ requires spiritual comfort I’m sure he’d appreciate a visit from his local Parish Priest. So, be a REAL HUMAN BEING….
Why assume his father is catholic?
You all would be surprised, very pleasantly so, were you to meet me in person. I am kindness, thoughtfulness, and consideration almost perfectly personified.
My appearance, bespectacled and youthful-looking and fairhaired, belies any of the more hysterical character sketches of me by the more irrational posters to the blog.
But please, if ever you do meet me, don’t ever ask me to praise the institutional Romanist Church, and her ‘good’ sponging, priest-pimps.
And yes, to that other poster. My dad knows precisely how I feel about Romanist parasites. He neither likes nor understands my hatred of this sub-species, but then, he doesn’t know about them what I know. And what I will never tell him.
“All pubs and bars asked to close until at least March 29 and public urged not to have or attend house parties.”
How will this affect seminarians and staff at Gaynooth, Bp Pat? Will they not have to close all the “gents” as well.
Closing the “gents” would be… well, let’s just say, the final straw for them, Bp Pat. They’d go on the rampage.
7.34: The closing of pubs and night clubs will obviously affect a plonker like you. What a stupid concern? Maybe you might supply your body for rent!!
Gaynooth will probably shut.
The hens have gathered Welkome to cackleton crescent
This is Diarmuid Martin’s second week in Dublin. He is freaking out Pat, no pasta or pene.
He is playing Italian music in the house all day. As long as Paul is ok.
Ciaran O’Carroll wants to come home. She is livid that Rome does not want her. 😂😂😂
Tighe could not save her
If only that were true. (Sigh 😩)
I’d have every Romanist priest-pimp on a permanent diet of bread, water, along with the vitamin and mineral supplements necessary to keep their foul bodies and souls together.
(See? I AM merciful after all. Even to such people as these. 😇)
Penne or pene???
They mean different things
Is that last word a typo???
I want to correct a few, very serious misconceptions about me over my hatred of Romanist priesthood.
If ever I came across a Romanist priest who was injured, I should do all in my power to help him…as a human being, not as a Romanist priest-pimp.
If ever I came across a Romanist priest who was starving, I should give him my last meal…as a human being, not as a Romanist priest-pimp.
If ever I came across any of these men in distress of whatever hue, I should never hesitate to do what I could for them. But as human beings, not as Romanist priest-pimps.
Make of this what you will. I don’t doubt that ill-will here towards me will make of it what it maliciously chooses.
The level of delusion at 9.55 is enormous.
Not to be able to see the fundamental contradiction inherent in this diatribe is stunning blindness and indicative of an abysmal level of self-reflection. It becomes a little clearer now why you were expelled from the seminary.