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The word is George Pell will walk free … but first the high court must have its say

David Marr The Guardian

The word around the bars is: George Pell will walk free.

These barristers don’t have a heads up. They’re only talking among themselves.

But those who have followed this prosecution as it has made its slow and dramatic way to the high court must face the possibility that the cardinal is about to be acquitted.

Historic child sex assaults make difficult cases. The facts are frequently bizarre. So often there is no corroborating evidence and the word of the accuser is simply pitted against the denials of the accused.

These trials test the criminal law.But Pell’s accuser was undoubtedly convincing.

We will never know everything he had to say about events at St Patrick’s Cathedral in late 1996 and early 1997 – he gave all his evidence in camera – but we do know that after convincing the police and prosecution authorities in Victoria, he convinced a jury and then two out of three judges of the court of appeal that Pell raped him.

Pell’s lawyers disagree, of course, but acknowledge how compelling the unknown young man’s evidence has been. Indeed, it’s the lynchpin of their case. Pell’s counsel,

Bret Walker SC, argues the jury and the court of appeal were so swept away by the cardinal’s accuser – by his testimony and his demeanour in the witness box – that they downplayed the evidence in Pell’s favour.George Pell’s appeal ‘glosses over’ evidence that supports conviction, DPP saysIn lawyer speak: “Belief in a ‘compelling’ complainant does not, ipso facto, equate to the elimination of reasonable doubt.”

When the court assembles on Wednesday, a dozen of the finest legal brains in the land will be debating Pell’s fate at a level of stratospheric complexity. But the core argument for the cardinal is simply stated: that the testimony of more than 20 church witnesses left no “realistic opportunity” for him to assault two boys after a solemn mass at St Patrick’s in December 1996.

These altar servers, organists, masters of ceremonies and choirboys from back in those days spoke of locked corridors, regimented processions, old rituals inside the building, new practices on the cathedral steps, crowded rooms, church law, and robes too complicated to expose an archbishop’s penis.Walker’s point is that the combined testimony of these “undisputedly honest witnesses” ought to have left the jury doubting “highly improbable” allegations of rape and sexual assault.

And he accused the appeal court judges whi believe that George Pell is guilty.If the Australian high court acquires him he will be free and presumed innocent.We must all accept the court’s verdict.Could the Aussies retry him?

LIVE MASS BROADCAST FROM THE ORATORY

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HELPING THE HOMELESS IN THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS.

Dear Bishop Patrick,

I’m taking this opportunity to thank you, especially now, for your invaluable support to vulnerable, homeless young people during these uncertain times.

Hopefully I’m able to reassure you that we, like you, are doing our part in taking precautions and tackling the challenges that the Coronavirus is placing on each and every one of us.

As the entire country prepares to take more drastic measures to contain the pandemic – school closures, reduced public transport, social distancing, city lock-downs – at Centrepoint, we too, are doing our very best to focus on the safety of the young people in our care and the wellbeing of our staff.

Operating over 60 services across the country and providing over 1,100 bed spaces for homeless young people, we remain, as ever, firmly dedicated to providing the additional support that young people need during this difficult time.

And while this may be the biggest challenge Centrepoint has ever faced, we are fortunate to have such skilled and compassionate people who, I’m confident, will get us through it.

I’d like to share a message from our Wandsworth Housing and Support Manager, Matthew Carlisle, who tells us what his service is experiencing right now.A message from the front line“We are working tirelessly to ensure that young people have all the right information they need to keep themselves safe, whilst providing the everyday essentials – like toilet roll, sanitiser, cleaning products, hand soap, etc.

This is a struggle in itself, due to the panic buying that is happening everywhere.”Visitor bans are in place in our services to restrict the number of people coming in and out, as we want to keep young people’s homes as safe as possible throughout this period. Funds are being used to buy food and other essentials as and when young people need them, as a lot of our usual food donations have stopped deliveries due to the crisis.

“We will also help young people if they have to go into self-isolation by adapting services to cope, and we are reassuring them they’re not alone and staff will be here to help them through.

One of the most important things we’re doing is giving emotional support to young people – who are scared like the rest of us.

“Young people have said to me today that they are shocked that staff are still here in services. I have told them, ‘I will be here unless I get sick, and so will my staff. We won’t disappear when things get tough. We will get through this together by following the guidelines and supporting each other when needed.’

“I cannot keep services safe and Covid-19 free without young people’s cooperation, and as always they have not disappointed me yet. They are positive, listening to advice, and they are a pleasure to serve.

”We are expecting a major loss in our income as several of our fundraising activities and events are now cancelled.

But we are doing what we can to minimise the impact of this to our support services for homeless young people. The situation is constantly evolving and we will be updating you regularly in the following weeks. On behalf of everyone at Centrepoint, and the young people we serve, thank you for standing with us. We will get through this together.

Best wishes,Jane West
Head of Supporter Giving, Centrepoint

PAT SAYS

We must care FOR EVERYONE in the Coronavirus crisis.

But, if you are homeless how can you self isolate?How can you wash your hands hourly.

You will have no problem being6 feet away from others.

They will not come within 6 feet of you.

I support centrepoint.

Can you support them- or some other homelessness charity?

111 replies on “The word is George Pell will walk free … but first the high court must have its say”

Cardinal Pell is innocent, of that I’ve no doubt. Hopefully he will be acquitted. That aside, the coronavirus is challenging all of us at this time especially about we care for the most needy, vulnerable, the lonely and sick. We must be on the watch out for them first and foremost. Most parishes have charity funds so let’s use them now. Today I phoned 4 housebound to ask if they wanted Holy Communion as normal. They were fearful of anyone calling as they are all in their 80’s. However I contacted family members to ensure their permission to call. We have to be careful these days. It’s the unknowns with this virus that’s very concerning for all. But we must not lose our hope. Thankfully too most parishes now have webcams or parish radios. All the best Pat.

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11:17 pm
Good call re. using parish funds.
Well done, on providing communion to vulnerable parishioners.
Be very careful. Death rate among clergy in Italy up to 28, yesterday evening.
You’re right re. the unknowns.
You might need to consider alternative ways to give communion rather than usual…
Let’s pray for each other. Best wishes.

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Might it be revealing if posters here indicated what regular donations they make to charity; which charity, how much, for how long and how they donate. Should we exclude religious organisations, particularly the RC church?
Could be interesting.

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Poor Cardinal Pell, God’s holy anointed. The Church needs more good holy men like Pell who fight the Devil and his accomplices as they try to besmirch the reputation of the holy bride of Christ. Our Lady Help of Christians pray for us!

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Paedo PELL doesn’t so much fight against the Devil as with him.
Kiddie-fiddling isn’t a work of God, oddly enough. 😕

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Is this posting about George Pell or not? As much as I dislike the Cardinal, I cannot accept that he got a fair trial. The evidence that he did what he was accused of doing is massively unconvincing: that was abundantly apparent from the outset.

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11.31pm

But not to the jury that convicted him, unanimously.

Incidentally, were you at the trial? You said the evidence against the fat paedo was not just unconvincing, but, er, ‘massively’ so.

(Wondering, like. 🙄)

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+Pat, any update regarding broadcasting mass from the oratory? I’m looking forward to this. I can’t afford to travel to Ireland, so I guess it is the closest I shall be to the oratory

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Tomorrow I have an IT man coming to help me set up the equipment I need to broadcast Mass. I will keep you informed.

Maybe on.my travels I will call to see you one day?

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11.37: Your biased, nasty, vicious, lying, devious and twisted judgments about almost every one, particularly clergy, deems you unfit, unsuitable and unreliable to speak TRUTH of any kind. You, viperous Cartwheel have a real, serious priblem with being a normal human being. Go vomit your poison in the loo…and come in to the real world where all of us are trying to help one another with the threat of the CORONAVIRUS. Oh, I suspect you don’t believe this TRUTH…it’s all in our imagination. Go out and do useful acts of kindness like 1000’s of others, including many, many priests and religious. We have to wonder abiut your mental well-being with all that pile up of hatred.

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10.00
You have trouble keeping your eye on the ball.
What on earth has your silly little rant to do with my comment on PELL? He’s a convicted paedophile. That’s not a vicious lie; it’s a FACT. (Duh🤥)

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At 10:00
Did you notice Magna Corona had to use the word ‘fat’ a second time before he got a reaction. Having used it once no one reacted and his withdrawal symptoms kicked in. Hence, the second occurrence……

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11:20 Pat, maintain social distancing. Be careful re. surfaces, packaging, wear gloves, etc. Clean surfaces with dettol spray or some such wearing gloves. You’ll be fine once you take care. Be conscious and careful of what you are doing.
Plenty of info on web re. precautions, cleaning, etc. Situation in Italy deteriorating.

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David Marr and Louise Milligan should hang their heads in shame. Marr now seems to be climbing back to a less compromised position.

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12.18
Marr seems to be ‘climbing back to a less compromised position’? What a strange and convuluted turn of phrase. 🤔
Do you know what it means? 😕

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“Marr seems to be ‘climbing back to a less compromised position’? What a strange and convuluted turn of phrase. Do you know what it means?”
To put it in simpler words: Marr was to the fore in screaming for Pell’s blood. Now as acquittal looms he is beginning to realize how wrong he was. So he is anxious to cover his traces, to re-position himself as a more moderate and unbiased journalist, to avoid having to face recriminations when his victim is declared innocent.

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Pat I can confirm Stephen Wilson has returned to Coal Island to remain with his family, however he is occasinsly spotted in Fr Emyln’s drive way. Stephen and Emyln have a dark past together which I have already informed you in specific detail. Pat please stay in doors and keep the blog going even if the Pandemic situation gets worse.

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Your moral contradictions are obvious at 3:00. You name people from the protection of anonymity and proceed to wish Pat well.
Some serious personal anomalies at work there.

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Remember all the lies Pedo Pell told about not being able to fly back to Australia due to health reasons, and the pictures of him eating and drinking out in Rome. He thought he could do a Bernie Law, Bp Pat. However, even with its long history of harboring accused pedophiles and their facilitators, the Vatican will not allow him to return to Rome if quitted.

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With everything else is closed, Bp Pat, I imagine priests and seminarians will still manage to slip away for… well, let’s just say, “a bit.” The dunes, car parks, and derelict buildings will always keep them going for the duration.

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7:21 – we could do with some pictures ! Father’s car down by the dunes, in the woods, etc., or better still Father traipsing back to his car with a satisfied smile on his face after….. They will have lots of time on their hands nowadays, so I expect there will be more ‘outings’ for extra curricular activities and the like. Just saying….

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7:21
If priests and seminarians continue to slip away for… “a bit” ….they’re very likely to… “bite the dust”.

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7.21: 8.33 and 7.56: All perverts. Probably frequent visitors at all the places they seem to know where to get “their’ s” plucked….and sexual thrills. All 3 are perverts. Your comments are those of thwarted pubescence. Have you hair on your chests yet, you bumboys??

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1. Pell will likely be out of jail for one reason or another in the near future; either he is acquitted (on balance I don’t see that his conviction can stand) or he will be released with a tag because the Aussies will be wanting to empty their jails of all non-violent inmates during the CV crisis.

2. I have always had a sneaking suspicion that traditionalist congregations viewed themselves as the real, continuing, True Church. I’m wondering if we have any correspondents who can tell us how they are behaving, reacting, observing the current regulations about Mass etc ? I popped in to a traditionalist church and it may as well have been public Mass there were so many people. Confessions were going on. There was a group gathered at the front praying the rosary together in close proximity. There were priests hanging about engaging in quiet, close conversation with people. It probably would have been safer to have had Mass with them well spaced out, rather than a form of congregational gathering which really isn’t safe. I bet there are some traditionalist places that are completely ignoring the current regulations, on the basis that they are the True Church and they know what is best !

3. I’ve seen one priest out and about along the highways and byways “looking for it”. Bold as brass ! I guess it’s an addiction ? Poor thing !

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You are full of shit 11.02 am. You seen this and you seen that and you’ve seen fck all. Another classic lying idiot on here.

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12:37 – Which bit has got to you so badly ? 1,2 or 3 ? Something has obviously got under your skin. Evidently I struck a cord. And you clearly don’t like being rumbled. Never mind. Just calm yourself, dear.

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According to Marr, Paedo Pell’s legal counsel, Brett Walker SC, has argued that both the jury at Paedo Pell’s trial and two judges at the Court of Appeal were so swept away by the accuser’s testimony that they downplayed evidence in Paedo Pell’s favour.
Not a good argument, I should think, since it counters its own weight more credibly: if these WERE swept away by the accuser’s TESTIMONY, it is only because it was such a strong current. 😮

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11.02
You don’t believe that Paedo Pell’s conviction can stand?🤔
That’s what ‘Retired Judge’ thought about Paedo Pell’s appeal hearing.
He was wrong, too. 🤗

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11.41: Magna: Comments from HATERS and psychos are useless and contemptible. Useless your his s**t. Magna, grow UP, UP, UP…..

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1.40

My goodness! You’re down the pub early… judging by the incoherence of your post.🤣

Keep this in mind: if you must attempt to insult me, please do so in the Queen’s English, and coherently.

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20/3/2020.

During his homily at Casa Santa Marta, the pope spoke of God’s call to His people to return to Him.
He said God’s tenderness speaks in a special way during Lent, a time to reflect and remember to return to the Father, who has the power to cleanse sinners.
POPE FRANCIS
“He’s capable of transforming us, of changing our hearts, but we need to take the first step: returning. It’s not even going to God. No! It’s simply returning home.”

Then he addressed the problem of not being able to see a priest for confession, which many Catholics do during Lent in preparation for Easter.
POPE FRANCIS
“If you don’t find a priest to go to confession, speak to God. He’s your Father. Tell Him the truth. ‘Lord. I did this and this and this. Pardon me.’ Ask His forgiveness with all your heart, with an act of contrition, and promise Him, ‘Afterward I will go to confession.’ You will return to God’s grace immediately.”

In this time of crisis, the pope said the Catechism clearly teaches that one can draw near to God’s forgiveness, even without a priest at hand.

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1.56

More cheese from the biggest cheese of ’em all, Pope Francis.

So if we can’ t get to a Romanist parasite for confession , all we need do is demurely tell God that we’re very, very sorry for our sins; that we’ll never ever commit them again (cross our hearts and hope to die); and that, as soon as Coronavirus allows, we’ll flock to a Romanist parasite so that HE can forgive us?🤔

It’s an IOU from Dear Mr God that we can cash in at the nearest bank (confessional).

JC!😨 No wonder the institutional Romanisn’t Church is a global laughing-stock.

Who do the Romanist parasites think they are? God can’t forgive without their say-so?

THIS is clericalism at its zenith. This is in large part why the Romanist Church is under global infamy and shame.

Roman Catholic clerical exceptionalism? There is nothing so self-elevated, not even in Heaven. 😱

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5.59: Hate monger supreme, Mad Carta: Pope Francis’s prayers and reflections and words of hope and encouragement are powerful. I’ve printed 300 copies for the many who are visiting our Church every day. Only an idiot with his brain deadened through drink and up his a**e could speak as you do. HATE SPEECH. Magna, may I recommend you read “The Emerging Self” by James G. Masterson where he brilliantly defines the nature of CNPD (Closet Narcissistic Personality Disorder). You are the classic epitome of this disorder. Read it for your reflection. When we own the truth about our personal flaws, disorders, bad, selfish behaviour, arrogance, the vanity of always needing to win and the silckliness of bullying abuse, we cross a threshold to normal, rational, decent behaviour. We enable self rehabilitation. Go boy, go Mags and read this book…Your HATRED and its ugliness is filthy. Is there a new virus that’s contagious – MaggisVirusCartona! because you sure have been infected fatally by some evil.

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5.59: Magna, go to the nearest testing centre for the coronavirus. You may have it unknownst to yourself. Something has pierced through into your body as it is constantly poisoning the atmosphere on this blog. Thank God for exemplary Pope Francis. Thank God.

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8.17
Yes, Pope Francis is so exemplary that he won’t return to Argentina, where there are very serious questions he needs to address about his being a clerical paedophile protector/defender/facilitator/enabler. Yes, running away from the music rather than facing it is indeed exemplary.
So exemplary that he lifted the restrictions imposed on Teddy McCarrick (such as they were) by Pope Benedict, for exceptionally good reasons.
So exemplary that he returned to ministry credibly accused Romanist parasites who then went on to sexually abuse children again.
So exemplary that he supported Mexican bishops in their crusade to stop the Mexican Government outlawing so-called ‘Conversion Therapy’ for minors in that country. This ‘therapy’ has been condemned as a form of torture by many, and has been denounced, by respected medical institutions ineffective, and potentially harmful, as well as by former leading practitioners of it.
So exemplary that…
What’s the point? You’re a Cathbot. A blind, unthinking follower of the man.

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9.14: Thank God that our exemplary Pope Francis is expressing such profound words of hope, prayers and consolation for a frightened world. You, pissyhead Mags offer only mockery, ridicule, darkness and a drinkfest heap of vomit. Get a grip before you are caught!!”

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7.44
I epitomise Closet Narcissistic Personality Disorder? 😕 You don’t get around enough, dear.😁
The prime examples of CNPD are Romanist bishops, especially the Bishop of Rome.
You won’t find better examples of CNPD than men who insist that they speak authoritatively for the Supreme Being.😨
They are classic cases.😲
Nutcases.😅

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9.22
The one (and most-important) thing left unexpressed by Pope Francis is truth.
This, and common sense. (Didn’t I mention common sense?😕)

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What, this dick teaches at a University ? Probably some tinpot US Catholic minor college, not much better than a 6th form. And, I think you can see that he is a Friend of Dorothy. Obviously. What a load of drivel. Please spare us !

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Isn’t it unlikely, that he is, as you claim, a friend of Dorothy’s? He’d hardly be welcome among the Cork Dominicans if he were?

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Fr Mike’s testimony – “I was getting ready to get married to an amazing woman but in my prayer I said ‘God I will do whatever you want me to do.’ In my prayer I realized God was saying ‘………I am calling you to a different path’”
How awesome is that!

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For the very reasonable sum of €80 (the price of a dinner for two) and thanks to the Dominicans in Cork you can hear this holy and inspiring priest speak in May. More words of wisdom like those here. Google him. He comes highly recommended.

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Bishop Buckley,
Would you be willing to fill the slot at the Cork Dominican event if Father can’t make it? He prefers to speak on what his hosts want rather than compiling a list of his areas of competence. (There are probably very few things he wouldn’t be comfortable speaking about.) He is gifted.

What would be your areas of expertise, Bishop Pat?

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At 67, with 44 years of pastoral experience, my “areas of expertise” revolve around navigating that ocean of expanse between the ideal and reality – being cast upon an open sea in a tiny boat.

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If Cardinal Pell is let-off-Scot-Free by the lawyers, then the people always have this to redress the balance
http://www.commonlawcourt.com
Remember, the lawyers are servants of the State and do not represent the people. They are only interested in protecting vested interests and in your cash.
Has anyone considered that Corona Virus is a God made seek and destroy weapon, as a result of the epidemic that is paedophilia and paedophile enablers.
Either way, Cardinal Pell may have but hours to live..
Let’s see who else is zapped in the coming days..
Bishop Pat, you are in the clear..

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5.06: Aren’t you a very clever sod, Neil? You’re assertion that the coronavirus may be a God made weapon because of paedophilia and paedophilia enablers is absurd unless you believe in a very capricious God. The pandemic certainly challenges us to think about our humanity and the gift of creation and nature. Why not add the awfulness of euthanasia and abortion to the sins of humanity along with paedophilia that may warrant God’s wrath?

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You are a heretic – or at least would be if you had been a Catholic. What kind of God do you believe in if you interpret the virus as his punishment for sexual sin? This is not a word I’d use lightly here, but you sound disturbed. Is you God not concerned by the immorality of famine, poverty, violence, injustice, lies, discrimination, the undermining of people’s human dignity that happens in homelessness and where people are abandoned in their hour of need.
I wouldn’t insult fundamentalists or born-again Christians by linking you with them.

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7:02
What planet do you inhabit? Is he going to paddle the Atlantic in a canoe?
There will be no junkets, clerical or otherwise, for a considerable length of time.
Use the internet, for free, if he’s so holy and inspiring!

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Loads of guys shagging at the Giants Ring today. Social distancing has gone out the window. Going back to wives and girlfriends carrying God know what.

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6.01: Were you dusappointed that with so many ‘shagging’ you missed your slot???? Thick. Stay away from these virus dens.

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Magna, another awesome day sitting, figuratively, at your feet marvelling at the gracious words spilling from the tips of your digits and drinking it all in. Such wisdom and stellar insight. What a grasp of EVERY single facet and aspect of life, both religious and secular.
Once again though, friend Magna, I come on bended knee to implore thee.
Magna, the Pope, you have shown us, is rubbish. As for bishops and priest? Well you again have convinced us, beyond any doubt, that they are all a big bunch of bastards.
World leaders you have shown to be knaves – donkeys leading lions. Magna we need a lion to take the reins. Such a true and fearless lion as you.
How can you sit back and allow us to be manipulated by mad scientists and their gibberish about scary monster viruses. Magna show unto us thy face and let thy star ascend in its precedence. Arise O Magna and let our cries come on thine ears. Don’t be an aul bollocks.

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8.09
I am the handmaid of the Lord. Let it be done t’…?
Hold on. That does not sound biologically kosher. 😕
Let’s see. I am the …VALET! 😀
Yes, I am the valet of the Lord. Let it be done to me according to your word.
Phew! 😧
Cudda switched gender there. 😲

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8 31: Your effort at humour is rather tiresome and infantile. Go baby Maggie to your night cave and go quickly. Suck you spider….

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Magna: many of your critics here just don’t understand satire, or should I say they just don’t understand………!

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THE TEN COVID-MENTS
Thou shalt stay home.
Thou shalt not gather in groups.
Thou shalt not panic.
Thou shalt not hoard TP.
Wash thy hands.
Honor thy curfew.
Check on loved ones.
Do not COVID thy neighbor’s wife.
Seriously, THOU SHALT STAY HOME .
Thou shalt make the best of it

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7:02 pm
Have the Catholic Bishops of Britain and Ireland any inspiring leadership to offer
in this unprecedented historical pandemic?

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9.51

Leading people by the nose (by threatening them with hellfire for disobedience) isn’t leadership, but theocratic coercion.

So to answer your question…no. 😊

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