Categories
Uncategorized

IS FATHER JOHN PAUL LYTTLE IN HIDING IN THE PARISH OF FAREHAM AND PORTCHESTER?

A Portsmouth source has informed me that, yesterday John Paul Lyttle concelebrated Mass in Fareham and Portchester with the parish priest there- Fr John Cooke.

Has Bishop Egan arranged this?

Or has Fr John Cooke taken it upon himself to shelter the priest after a young male parishioner in Reading said Lyttle tried to seduce him.

What is the connection between Lyttle and Cooke?

Were they in a seminary together?

WILL STEPHEN WILSON BE ORDAINED A DEACON FOR ARMAGH NEXT MONTH?

Many clergy and others are wondering if Amy Martin will give the go ahead for Stephen Wilson to be ordained a deacon next month.

Eamon Martin has received correspondence on this matter.

The word is that the president of Maynooth Fanny Mullaney is pushing for the diaconate ordination.

175 replies on “IS FATHER JOHN PAUL LYTTLE IN HIDING IN THE PARISH OF FAREHAM AND PORTCHESTER?”

Why is the Vocations Promoter hiding a priest accused of trying to seduce a young male parishioner?

Like

No. Never heard of Fr. Cooke before. I think Egan has thrown Cooke to the lions.

Like

By Post Author

8.58

Similar was said of Francis Cardinal Spellman when he was abroad as chaplain to the USA military: he’s on his knees overseas. ( You can join the dots yourself. 😨)

He was a model Romanist, was Spellman, just as JPII was a ‘model pastor’ (according to the clown-pope from Argentina in a very recent statement 😑)

Like

They ran something called the pit – many things went on in the pit. It will all come out!

Like

I doubt much seduction will be needed, Bp Pat, they’ll be experts at quickies (usually under 3 minutes). What every priest guy wants.

Like

I was really referring to the young man in Reading. A salmon dinner, three bottles of wine, “wow you look lovely in track suit bottoms” ………….

Like

By Post Author

11.14
‘Grooming’ is the new ‘seduction’. 😰
‘Seduction’ has a more lyrical and poetic pedigree than ‘grooming’, but the latter is ‘seduction’ by pseudonym.

Like

There are three seminarians and a transitional deacon (all of whom are sems for Portsmouth) temporarily living in the presbytery in Fareham. It must be cosy set-up.

Like

I’m struggling to maintain composure against the frisson of heightened expectation that is running amok in my head, because I know, just know, that the legion of ‘good’ Romanist priests we, on this blog, are frequently assured exist are going to band together, in the name of the one they claim to serve, and act as holy stormtroopers for Jesus, by publicly, and openly, protesting the ordination to the diaconate of Stephen Wilson, just as they publicly and openly protested the ordinations of Michael Byrne and Sean Jones.
Oooooooh! I can’t wait to see my Romanist heroes in holy action. 😀 🍺
Can you? 😕

Like

Pat, Bishop Egan of P’mouth has overturned all the good that his predecessor, Bishop Crispian Hollis, did. Egan is a naive man. He’s ruined Portsmouth diocese, turned many cradle Catholics away from his weird “intentional discipleship” bull crap. He deserves all the shite he gets. Leave him to the dustbin of Catholicism. Along with all these right wing gay priests. Like that old queen in Portsmouth cathedral where I sadly go to Mass. I don’t mind when the Nigerian priest comes out.

Like

Pat, as you know correspondence received has a long history of being ignored by bishops and can also make them do what they feel like, but in an underground way.
There is also a history of names being mentioned on this blog and then the priest suddenly being on a period of discernment. This makes it difficult to know what to do because it happens anyway!
One thing your detractors do tend to ignore is the work you put in communicating the faithful’s concerns to the hierarchy only to have them ignored.
Tell a lie, I do know what concerned parties should do – stop giving money. I have been surprised at how quickly a fall in donations has become concerning during lock down.

Like

Also interesting that in Bishop Egan’s ENews (link via @bishopegan twitter) there is a guess the young cleric section (see towards the end of the Enews). This week it is a young cuthbert brogan. The photo looks as though it came off of anotherabbotextraordinary.blogspot.com

Like

Stephen Wilson reported several seminarian to Mullaney and accused them of being Informers to the media and you Pat. Pat, I am a vicitm of Stephen Wilson and my family has also suffered due to Mr Wilson’s reporting.

Like

He thought he would miss out on a ‘glamorous’ life! Sorry but no heterosexual man talks like that ever, it’s the same theme in all of these interviews on Portsmouth, a priest prompts them to consider the priesthood their families are never mentioned there’s a total disconnection from who they were

Like

Lol
That said, Fr Coke’s story is better than any of the ones highlighted on here, because he has a sense of awe at what he is doing and a fear of the effects on others if he gets it wrong.
That has been missing from the others.

Like

@ 9.39

Fr Coke? Coke? 🤔 Did I get that right, or was it just a typo?

My paper pays good money for good sleaze. I meant of course good story🙄

Like

10.45: Buckley, you have an over inflated sense of your bitchiness and vengeance. You are a bastardo, an ignoramus, a trouble maker, shallow, ugly in intent and probably the most un Christ like man ever. Grow up you idiot.

Like

JPL will have no doubt been taken up by sympathetic clergy, ostensibly so that they can support his damaged / wounded vocation back to health. Nothing as important as saving a vocation ! But, the motives for any help will be complex and many layered. Yes, ostensibly they will be saving his vocation, giving him space and time, but in reality a number of them will have come under his spell and there will be strong element of home-erotic idol worship and fantas going on. What nicer than having a good looking young man swanning around the presbytery to add a little frisson to the drudgery of lockdown ?! My assessment from what I know of JPL, and saying so with no ill will towards him, is that JPL has been damaged goods for many years, and has exhibited alarm bells which have been ignored, and that he is not suited for the priesthood if he is not able to keep his todger in his pants and his tongue in his mouth and is not able to understand and keep to the standards of behaviour in relating to others that is expected of someone in his role. I don’t expect that things will improve with him. Yes, he will take to religion for a while to ensure that he is rehabilitated, but he will still be the same underneath, and he will continue to be a challenge and a problem in the priesthood. So, the best thing for JPL, who undoubtedly has skills and gifts, is to move on to a new profession where he can use those attributes, where he is not constrained by the current requirements of priesthood. The sooner this is done the better for all concerned. Sometimes, the remedy is unpalatable, but the aim is an outcome that sees him flourish somewhere else, and prevents further damage to him and to the Church. All this pffaffing around cocooning him, soothing him, pandering to him has more to with the needs of those who are doing it rather than doing JPL any good.

Like

Many of todays seminarians and young priests are living out a fantasy and not a vocation – alternating between the altar where they are the Perfect Christ and the BDSM room where they are the “pig”. There is something dangerously psychotic about all of this and leads to all kinds of destruction.

Like

Yes, and no matter how entertaining that might be for us, it is in fact a very serious problem for the Church and for the ministry. The double parallel life syndrome, the blatant lack of integrity and honesty to others and to oneself, the self-delusion that is at play, the straightforward dysfunction that is clearly alive in these men – all of this is a very serious problem, which stems from a theology of priesthood and a training system, neither of which is fit for purpose. No wonder we get priest like JPL, Rory, etc.

Like

Victim mentality = mimetics in which everything will have to be done by appearance. Genuine originality of personality respects those traditions which are truer than others.

Like

You hit a nail on its head, Pat.

Yes, many priests and sems are living out a fantasy rather than a vocation, though I’m not comfortable with the word ‘vocation’, because it smacks of clericalism.

But I’d go further than you: Romanist priesthood itself is very largely a glorified fantasy, anthropomorphic rather than Christocentric. In short, it’s very largely man-made, an almost total deviation from the model of discipleship required by Jesus himself.

No wonder, then, that such, er, anomalies as Wilson, Byrne, Jones, and Martin (Eamon) occur.

Like

– Portsmouth “intentional disciple” materials are drastically overpriced and written by people with a spiritual rationing mindset. True spiritual gifts are myriad, in a great many people.
– Mania is seldom diagnosed or aptly treated by the NHS let alone recognised in churches. I’ve known several manic priests, as well as protestant ministers prone to it who were placed under an unfair burden by their congregations and regional leaders. Self management with or without pills is vital and can produce success and balance.
– Priests and people are now trained in the monarchical model, even worse than in my young day. Serious consideration should be given to the possibility that the day of RCC sacraments is over till further notice at least.

Like

Very true, Alf. I haven’t seen any of Portsmouth’s “intentional discipleship” materials, but recognizing Egan’s understanding of the operation of divine grace to be very different from that of his much-loved predecessor, I can guess the approach, which is the old enemy of authentic Catholicism namely Jansenism. Readers of this blog will be more aware than I that this was malign character of the Irish Church until exposure. Simply put, it is that you are in, or you are out, saved, or damned – particularly unrepentant homosexuals who have the cheek to be happy and integrated individuals. Intention is all very well, but it can also be dangerously misleading if it is not accompanied by genuine personal development. Consider the cases cited by John Cornwell in his study of the confessional, where an abusive priest rushes to confess his crime, but there is no conversion, no change, so he continues his career as an abusive priest. We have the phenomenon in seminaries of pious young men who think they can “will” themselves into being the heroic model of perfection they would like – at least on a good day – themselves to be. Sadly, along comes a new boy freshly groomed from his propaedeutic year at Valladolid, a couple of stiff gins too many, and the result: the missing will.

Like

Has Eamon Martin given up on vetting his seminarians. What is going on. Young males are being targeted in a coordinated abuse network.

Like

Eamon Martin either does not know what is going on with his seminarians and priests or is turning a blind eye because the problem is so big. Sooner or later it will all come to a head in a massive explosion of scandal. Martin is a very weak “man”.

Like

Eamon Martin must inform his Maynooth Seminarian of the basic Huamn Right of free from sexual exploitation. Sexual exploitation in Maynooth and on the Dark Web. This case is bigger than the sexual abuse of the Brendan Smyth case.

Like

11.07
Yes, Eamon Martin is indeed a weak man.
Roman Catholicism has, for centuries, been driven by weak, effete little men. This is how Fr Juan Bacca, formerly of the Legionarries of Christ, described Pope Emeritus Benedict (as a ‘weak, weak man’) for not acting against that holy priest-pervert-paedophile, Maciel. Bacca had been sending the ex-Nazi, for some thirty years, evidence that Maciel was a notorious and serial kiddie-fiddler, like many Romanist priests today.
Eamon Martin, along with the vast majority of Romanist clergy, is good for absolutely nothing; in a word, ‘he’s utterly useless’.
Don’t expect the unexpected from this piece of deadwood.

Like

Great post today: both highly entertaining, yet also high-lighting yet again the bomb-site of the Catholic priesthood. “Wow, you look lovely in track-suit bottoms … ” Did JPL really say that to a young policeman? Stop it, I’m pissing myself! Given that seminarians are not thick on the ground even in Portsmouth, someone could tell us who is currently resident with the two Fathers? They practically constitute a Little Oratory. If space is tight, surely the ideal temporary residence would be Farnborough Abbey, as a kind of field-hospital for young men at risk of losing their way.

Like

I’d love to know how Egan is coping with all the unwelcome light shone on his clergy, given his self-proclaimed leadership-rôle as the scourge of liberalism and immorality. Let’s hope his own Father Pip remains above all this, or that really would upset the apple-cart.

Like

Well you won’t know how Bishop Egan is coping so pointless question really. You will just have to amuse yourself in other ways.

Like

It could be because the seminaries have closed ? There’s a very strange set up at Shrewsbury Cathedral that they chose to publicise, random men like over grown altar boys lighting candles in cassocks, there’s nothing wrong with that except that’s not what Oscott seminary is like and not what any parish in Shrewsbury is like, it’s neither trad or happyclappy it’s sort of ‘Pope John Paul the Great’ 1980s

Like

The comparison between Maynooth and the case of Smyth is inappropriate. Smyth was operating within a very different Church culture which enabled him to continue his abuse for decades. He targeted children who were entirely helpless, as they were delivered to him by co-dependent nuns or teachers. Even when these children did complain, they were up against the system as exemplified by the collusion of a future Cardinal. Seminarians are adults who have the same level of protection as any other student or employee, and have recourse to the law if an offence is committed; they also have the responsibility to report sexual harassment.

Like

This post indicts the system even more than it indicts the candidates. Decent priests rushing off their feet doing plain good things for ordinary-minded parishioners and being a little bit looked after by them, and who don’t pull a people-pleasing rictus as portrayed above, contrast starkly with the special area that has become the private preserve of sole “vocation directors” who themselves, reportedly, too often have a contorted childhood mentality. The worst culprits have been allowed by flabby-minded authorities – including one that was promoted – 3.40 below describes a concatenation of situations I heard of in recent years that don’t yet appear to have been satisfactorily resolved – to both terrorise others and normalise in their minds an atmosphere of fantasy. Employment status is ambiguous in the church; criminal law rightly covers only the gravest cases (and there was one arrest); and to report harassment goes against the very vows and beliefs of what is taken to be religion. Real religion exists alongside, but these sentimental shenanigans – from before they “went in” – aren’t going to support the candidates enough to support religion (my perception as outsider). Responsibility has to be shouldered within faculties of seminaries and within the merry go round of VDs and diocesan councils (and incidentally we don’t hear of lay “vocations” other than “intentional” ones or strange “movements”). It’s not only the bad apples that should vote with their feet, but the good ones as well.

Like

All the commentators on here today including you Patsy are salivating over this nonsense. Faux outrage from you all and yet you are all queens yourselves or in the closet. That’s the real outrage and yes, truth hurts. There is no truth concerned with your blog just vengeance and hate.

Like

12.14

God isn’t salivating over this (What did you call it?) ‘nonsense’. He’s angry at it, though.

How do you know it’s nonsense, by the way? You seem assured of this, so perhaps (well, certainly) you can provide evidence to the contrary, then. Looking forward.

Er, shall we hear from you again?😕

Like

You are a prime example of what I was referring to earlier Magna – in the closet with faux outrage by the bucket load.

Like

12.29
Now stop trying to move the goalposts; it’s not very bright, and it suggests subterfuge and oilyness.
Where is that evidence of ‘nonsense’? 😅

Like

Don’t quite get your point @12:14. Do you mean that the revelations are nonsense or the way priests are formed is nonsense? Do you think gay posters such as I are hypocrites because we denounce the antics of gay priests? Surely that misses the point, as I for one did not commit myself to celibacy, nor do I align myself with a system which condemns “gay lifestyle” while embodying the very same lifestyle in its own clergy and houses of formation? And what, to take the contents of today’s post for example, do you think offends against truth? Are we not telling it as it is? That, I suggest, is the truth you don’t like represented back to you.

Like

@1.06pm The Patbots like yourself are clearly rattled that you’ve adopted such a defensive tone. No need! You’ll give yourself a heart attack if you don’t calm down. You should channel your energy instead into other pressing issues. It’s mental health week – a much more pressing issue don’t you think.

Like

Pat
Do you ever get tired of attacking innocent young men? It’s a never ending cycle with you. It is insidious behaviour on your part. You are king of the hypocrites and yet you have the audacity to dictate morals to other people? Get over the Catholic Church and mind your own business. Tell all the other vicious queens on your blog to do the same.

Like

Somebody has been rattled enough to repeat themself at 12:52. Who are these “innocent” young men, who would not cause butter to melt in their mouth? Too much projection, duckie!

Like

Was I a bit too close to the bone for you duck egg @ 12.10pm. Any unresolved issues you care to share with us.

Like

Innocent young men? Gay seminarians bullying others. Young priests seducing parishioners? Sexual assault and rape ? You have a very funny idea of innocence.

Like

I listen to a lot of people everyday. I am in touch with what is happening.

Like

By Post Author

12.52
Mind his own business?😕
I should think the psychological and spiritual welfare of folk, especially the young and vulnerable, the business of every Christian, Roman Catholic or not.
Should people be at risk from potential or actual sexual predators in future positions of authority, then that is the business of everyone.
So take YOUR business elsewhere. 😄

Like

It was abused seminarians that started me on this road – at their request.

Like

By Post Author

Quite right, Magna. There are couple of posters who, entirely lacking the intellect and communication skills enjoyed by you and I, persist in sending out wild geese without anything to back up their annoying honking. We have both challenged their pitiable diversionary tactics such as “nonsense”, transference, “mind your own business”, “calm down”, “more pressing issues” ( classic resort of the scoundrel, that one ) and – best of all – “faux outrage”! There is nothing “faux” about the contempt we feel for the Catholic clergy, I assure you!

Like

No Statement yes all comes in Turn.
We need to Await the Appointment of the New Archbishop of Dublin and his Assistants.
So president cannot speak as yet and there is Ferns coming up and Dromore.

Like

The cries of those raped, abused, groomed and manipulated echo throughout the walls of Maynooth and the Armagh Chancellery. Justice for the survivors.

Like

Those last 3 comments all made by the mad psycho ex Sem who is predictable as ever. Sadly no facts forthcoming as per.

Like

I don’t know why Pat publishes those ravings. Are they meant to be funny? It’s obviously someone who is very sick in the head.

Like

2.25

Peter Pekins? Yer having us all on.

Sounds like the initial words of a tongue-twisting alliteration.

Like

In my memory Peter Perkins was a great friend of Mario Fungi Probably more than one Peter

Like

In the Lyttle Oratory in Fareham you have the PP, JPL, Matthew King (transitional deacon), Ryan Browne (first year, VEC Rome) and two propaedeutic year students: Farvin Gonsalves and Jack Ryan.
A full house is a happy house, as my mother used to say.

Like

1.51pm Magna we don’t care what you suggest. How could we take anything you say seriously. You even attack Patsy and he pats you on the head and allows you to be his puppet again. Ave Maria

Like

2.31

Still raising strawmen.

While the rest of us continue waiting for proof of that ‘nonsense’ you glibly mentioned.

Guffaw-guffaw-guffaw 😅

Like

Where’s your proof straw man Magna @2.44pm. Let’s be having it. We are watching and waiting. Put your bottle down for a second and don’t hold back. We know your Mother dropped you on your head at birth but don’t let that stop you. Come on – where’s the EVIDENCE

Like

Lol @2.31pm Good comparison. Pat strokes Magna like a dog and when Magna the pooch bites then Pat tells him off. Then when calm again Pat strokes Magna’s head and allows him to bark once more. Most of the time Magna is a bitch on heat.

Like

2.54
Actually (I do so hate to be the one to rub yer nose in yer own mess, but you must be intellectually house-trained. 😆), it was a very poor comparison; in fact, it was a confused comparison, because metaphorically it didn’t, erm, work.😆 ‘Patting on the head’ and ‘puppet’? 😕😅
Oh, dear, dear! 😊
Guffaw-guffaw-guffaw 😅

Like

@2.29pm The psycho has returned and as per predictably trundles out either the name Wilson or Marshall. Totally obsessed with these lads from his ex Maynooth days. This is the type Buckley listens to everyday. #disturbed #psycho

Like

All the evidence points to these 4 men being abused and not the other way around. I have only witnessed people attacking and ridiculing them for years. That is the truth!!!

Like

@2.56pm Magna you’ve already run out of straw. No evidence I take it. Nada, zilch, zero, come back when you’ve found it. Don’t scratch your arse too much on the straw though. Ave Maria

Like

2.50
‘Gorgeous’ ( those eyebrows, though😕) is addicted to selfies and is self-inflating as I type.
‘Puck’? He’s down on his luck. (He tends, so I believe, to comfort-eat on those occasions. 🍰🍦🍧🍼)
I seriously hope that his parishoners are aware of this man’s alleged past, and that they never take a watchful eye off him.

Like

“Magna”

The grown man who lives in his parents house, has no job, no friends and a drinking problem 😂 no one cares what you think loser.

Like

Thick eyebrows are a sign of fertility 😉….I bet sissy boy magna dreams everybody’s night of being inseminated by a tall, dark and handsome man like byrne 🤣😂🤣.

Like

4.36

But would Sean Jones take you? 😉

He’s said to be fussy these days…since he lost, regained, lost, regained (and so on 😩) weight.

Like

4.35
I hate doing this to you, on SOCIAL media of all places, but WTF use is fertility to a gay man like Byrne? 😉
And guys cannot be inseminated.
Oooooh! I can feel, from here, the heat from your now-flushed (facial 😕) cheeks.
You’re a sem, aren’t you? (It’s the low educational standard. Dead giveaway, that. 😃)

Like

Magna
Do you think you are intelligent? Your writing comes across as more effeminate than intellectual. At least Sean Jones is a real man 🥰

Like

5:05

It’s called “breeding” in gay circles, but eh, I bet you already know that 😉

Like

5.36
No; until now. But you obviously did.
Same farce, though. How the hell can a man be bred anymore than inseminated?
(Jesus: beam me up. 😩 I’m not of this world. 😇)

Like

Pat contact them and ask them for their story? These men are getting abused daily on the blog! What proof is there? What evidence have we seen of wrong doing? Rumours, word of mouth by disgruntled Ex-seminarians don’t cut it no more! Wilson is being ordained deacon! Marshall works for the BBC! All these defamatory comments daily are really getting tiresome! Contact them? Email or call them! Let them tell you the story!

Like

If any of them want to contact me I will give them a proper hearing and publish their stories.

Like

By Post Author

Seriously people you need to get a grip. Magna is straight. This is totally obvious to anyone who actually reads what he posts.
I am very interested about how every one of his critics criticises a mirage which bears little resemblance.
Yes – ‘Magna Carta’ is a composite but some things remain stable, only you have to read what he puts.
Well done, Magna, for being the bugbear of the Cathbots. Incidentally, I don’t think that one commentator is Bellarmine – it lacks the shrill Ness and can at least spell Aue Maria 🤣
Also I notice nobody has taken you up on your invitation to name you – these people are so much hot air living the clerical/churchy fantasy Pat draws our attention to so often.

Like

Pat you had a contributor for a period called Cecily. He was eccentric in his ways and a good friend. He sadly died yesterday after succumbing to Coronavirus in England. May he rest in peace.

Like

He sadly left your blog because others abused him for his eccentric language and lifestyle. He often related what he was eating and his dining habits. He liked the finer things in life and debate. He was very critical of the Church but has left it very well off.

Like

Cecily sounds like a nice old card – though why the hell was he called Cecily, which makes him sound like a Brighton vicar? I wonder if he knew Dom Athelstan Rutherford, who once told me he would like to have been a 19th Century Cathedral Canon of Barchester.

Like

Stephen Wilson needs immediate psychological care. This young man is a danger within the community. Eamon Martin needs to support Wilson with an inpatient care plan.

Like

Pat please offer Mass for the Survivors of the network. Pray they find a way out from the pain and fear.

Like

The seminary system is broken. Who signed off on Matthew Jolley? Why was JPL ordained with so many alarm bells clanging?Maynooth is not fit for purpose. Here’s another one James Leigh – seminarian for Hexham and Newcastle. He thought he was meeting a “sweaty” fourteen year old boy (he likes sweaty boys apparently). He met “paedophile hunters” instead.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5345063/Trainee-Catholic-priest-snared-paedophile-hunters.html

Like

I guess he’s out of prison now. So, where is he ? Is he still being supported by his diocese ? Are they hoping that he will ‘make good’ ?! Vocations are precious and need to be nurtured, you know ….!!!!!

Like

@3.35’pm spare us the faux outrage. You like sweaty people too despite their age and I suspect you like a good drink whilst reading this blog.

Like

It’s Little Miss “Faux-Outrage” AGAIN! If she thinks that’s her trump card, she is sadly mistaken. It’s hard to engage with this creature, as there is nothing – absolutely nothing – between the ears – nor between the legs either, I’ll be bound! A frustrated Church spinster of either sex, desperately sticking up for the “lads” in the seminary. An instantly recognizable type, I fear, who can nevertheless turn nasty when thwarted. Avoid!

Like

‘I love to laugh, loud and long and clear. ‘ Said the fat eccentric guy in the Mary Poppins musical.
He’s a kindred spirit, that man, cos so do I. And I’ve just come out of a laugh hearty enough nearly to have killed me.
According to Crux, Poland is marking the centenary of its papal ‘saint’, JPII, the notorious and serial priest-paedophile protector. (Allegedly, of course. 😆) And guess what? Crux had a photo of two Polish Poles standing at the pedestal of a metallic sculpture of the wizened old fraud, his crooked posture suggesting another kind of crookedness entirely. And guess what again? 😀 They both are wearing face masks. 😅 To keep out SARS-CoV-2 ? Or to keep out the toxìc influence of arguably the most notorious pope of the 20th century? 😃

Like

Keep clutching at straws barking dog Magna @3.39pm. Is that your idea of staying relevant. Oh dear! Try harder or we can get Patsy to touch your head again to stroke your ego. Lol

Like

Some commentators are complaining about ‘victimisation’ of certain young clergy and seminarians. Now, I get it that the clerical culture that is still alive and kicking in the Church, particularly among bishops and priests, sees priests and prospective priests as somehow special and set apart, almost a different order of being. That is probably the reason that when these clerical individuals engage in behaviours that are not fitting or becoming or expected of clergy, they are dealt with in very gentle and protective ways. However, those of us who work in the real world know that if people that we work with behaved in similar ways in their working lives, then they would be dealt with by a consistent and transparent disciplinary system, and they would have probably been let go. The reason that these ‘victimised’ individuals keep cropping up is because they have not been dealt with. What has happened has been minimised, excused, covered up, explained away. They have been given second and more chances, they are supported over long periods. That simply would not happen elsewhere. So, if the Rorys, JPLs, Wilsons, Pucks, Gorgeouses of this world want to stop being ‘victimised’, then clear off and go and get a real job and life and live your lives as you wish and according to the rules that the rest of us have to live with. But, please, do no expect us to carry on supporting you, making excuses for you, accommodating you, and whatever else you are in receipt of, just because you are a priest or a seminarian. If you want to stop being ‘vicitmised’ then do the honest and transparent thing and get out, go away, and stop trying to fool us and bleed us.

Like

I can’t remember @3.40pm anyone using the term victimization only yourself. You clearly have an agenda and an axe to grind. Spit it out what your gripe is? Don’t talk, like many on here, in riddles. You talk about honesty yet it’s clear you don’t know yourself the meaning of that word even if it hit you in the face like a wet kipper.

Like

Yes @3.40, being actually dealt with is what these people fear, hence the huge cloud of obfuscation.
They also don’t understand that sex as such is not a problem out in the real world. There was outrage (faux, I expect) about a married police officer having an affair with a priest, and hysterical screaming that he should be reported to his superior.
Rubbish – consensual sex between adults in private is not a disciplinary matter.
The priest, however, is a different kettle of fish.
Now wait for the screams of victimisation and faux outrage 😲

Like

Fare ham and Portchester Parish Bulletin, 21st March, 2020:
38 HARTLANDS ROAD
We welcome Fr JP Lyttle to our parish. He will be residing nearby as a ‘priest in residence’ for a few months while he works on some matters for the Diocese. He will be joining us in celebrating some Masses when his studies permit.
Can we politely remind all Parishioners that any resident of 38 Hartlands Road is to be treated as a private resident and are not to be contacted at their home? All matters related to the Parish are to be discussed with Fr John, Dcn Matthew and the Parish Office only.
Also we remind any Parishioners with a parking permit to not park in 38’s allocated parking space.

Like

“He will be joining us in celebrating some Masses when his studies permit”????
“ …. while he works on some matters for the diocese”???
Who the f*** do they think they’re kidding!!??
Did you ever hear such deceitful, delusional and self-important bullshit?

Like

Bishop Pat I can’t believe what I have just seen and read, all the evidence is there. The poor students were clearly petrified the poor mites. The ex sem was telling the truth and they tried to make him look crazy. But its all out now

Like

Has anyone else noticed the clergy go quiet here on a Sunday then Monday then go wild on a Tuesday? Poor dears, no golf on Mondays for them at the moment

Like

Pat, there’s just one thing here, which is that having your arrival, a reason given for your presence, and concelebrating mass with the PP can hardly be described as hiding!
It also doesn’t follow the classic pattern of hiding sexually troublesome clergy and calling it a sabbatical or c/o the Bishop.
I don’t think he is under any kind of discipline – it’s possible he’s been moved to ‘light duties’ while reflecting or even to non-face to face duties pending investigation.

Like

7.59: Yes, there is an absence of clergy: good observation. Prefer instead to avoid this shit and leave all commentary to plonkers and idiots like you, of which there are many. Philistines, the lot of you behaving like queen bitches.

Like

9.42: Not at all touchy. Just TRUTHFUL…🐖🐖🐖🐖🤣🤣🤣🤣🌽🌽🐽🍌🍌🤔🤔🍄😁😁😁

Like

Get Inspector Taggart to investigate. Now he is sober and out of therapy, this could be a new case for him to solve. Then get him to Glasgow to expose a few others. Thanks

Like

Emaon Martin has failed his moral duty to uphold human rights of children and vulnerable adults by his inaction to remove the abuse network.

Like

It’s all crumbling within the Chancellery of Armagh. Eamon has his letters and evidence against Stephen Wilson but Mullaney is using all means to protect Wilson.

Like

Murphy Report, Ferns Report, Brendan Smyth and now Armagh. The difference with Armagh the accusers are Seminarians and to a minor role active Priests. How did this change occur and why.

Like

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

Gravatar
WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. ( Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. ( Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. ( Log Out /  Change )

Cancel

Connecting to %s