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CATHOLIC PRIESTHOOD IS NOW A UNIVERSAL GAY “KNOCKING SHOP”.

“JOIN THE ROYAL NAVY AND SEE THE WORLD”

“JOIN THE CATHOLIC PRIESTHOOD AND SEE THE HOLE WORLD”.

Sadly  the Roman Catholic priesthood is now the biggest club in the world for sexually active bishops, priests and seminarians.

There’s more casual sex available in the RC priesthoid than their is available in the Red Light districts of cities like Amsterdam.

And no matter what your particular kink is, you will find an answer for it in every diocese and seminary in the world – from “Vanilla” to BDSM.

And, all of this happening in a church whose catechism says that homosexuality is seriously disordered and a grave sin!

Do they mean it’s only disordered and sinful for non clerics?

Presently  we have;

Seminarians being considered for diaconate and priesthood who are having sex like rabbits.

Seminarians and priests – and probably bishops – looking anonymous gay sex on apps like Grindr.

Seminarians and young priests acting as rent boys for senior clergy.

Seminarians and seminary staff having sex.

The presence of poppers and drugs in seminaries.

Priests attempting to seduce young men in their parishes.

Bishops appointing priest secretaries on the basis of their looks and sexual orientation.

Active and non active gay bishops allowing ordinations to take place because they have the hots for the ordinands.

Diocesan cliques of gay priests.

Seminarians expelled from seminaries over gay sex activities been taken on by bishops and being sent to new seminaries.

Many, many bishops turning a blind eye to the strange goings on among their seminarians and priests.

I have often said that the RCC was the Roman Empire Mk 11. And now we see the existence of the sexual anarchy in the RCC that played a major role in destroying the first Roman empire.

Sexual anarchy is not good for any human being, group of human beings or for society.

Sex is a wonderful gift from God but all gifts come with their accompanying obligations.

Sex is primarily a gift that allows us to show love, affection, attraction in a special way.

But sex should not be about hurting, using or abusing.

When that priest and seminarian had sex on the Kildorrery altar God was hurt. The believing community that gathers there was hurt. Christianity was abused and belittled by those who have set themselves up as the champions of Catholic Christianity.

When Catholic bishops “force” young priests and seminarians to do them sexual favours they are using and abusing those young men. They are using their position in the Christian Community to prey on the “vulnerable”.

When seminarians and priests engage in orgiastic sex with each other they are betraying their faith, their vocation and the community they serve – and the community who pay for their lives and in return expect authenticity and standards from them.

They are saying to the community: “Give us your money. Give you your respect. Put us on your pedestals, acknowledge us as “Alter Christus”, live as we tell you to live – but when it comes to expecting certain standards from us – fuck off”!

The RCC priesthood and episcopate is now full of gay sex addicts.

Put addicts in charge of your organisation and what do you get ?

You get anarchy, destruction and a tsunami of human misery!



175 replies on “CATHOLIC PRIESTHOOD IS NOW A UNIVERSAL GAY “KNOCKING SHOP”.”

Following on from my 9.22 below, because damage control requires an ongoing supply of damage, any one in search of mutual back scratching opportunities has a sharp eye for damage causers.
Sometimes the seminary of the movement concerned acquires a squeakier image so as to humiliate the standard one, sometimes the movement’s own seminary is made extra squalid as a booby prize to the standard ones for appearing to be less so. All very nicely calibrated.
So the rival factions, like Herod and Pilate, feed off each other. I love the bit in the video when those of the same stripe quarrel.

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Most tragically for the shining of spiritual light in this world, there has in my time been:
– a lack of teaching in supplicating & interceding
– a lack of Holy Spirit belief
– a lack of gifts and virtues such as prudence & discernment in the life of every ordinary member
It is so sad how the religion of Christ can come over as shallow bossiness, the mere rehashing of memes or tropes in wording or in body language.
The generation St John Henry Newman strengthened got wiped out in the Great War.

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Re: Leeds
+Pat, this “Collective” thing they now do in the seminaries, is it something similar to the Spanish treatment?
Make sure only nodding busters get through. Bow down to the Emperor before Jesus?

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Well, Jesus Pat.
You have really gone for it here.
As a gay man, and a priest, I still stand by the fact that I felt called to be a priest way back as a young boy. I was never abused in any way. And I have never abused.
I have never condemned anyone, nor would I ever do that! But, I am a gay man. And I am a priest. And I see no contradiction between the two. To hell with any one who does.

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Yep, that is the crucial question ! Being gay if fine. Being a priest is fine. Being celibate is fine. Scurrying around and breaking celibacy is not fine. It is all about honesty and integrity. If you promise something, then you need to keep to it. If you break it you are lying and are not to be trusted. Simple !

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7.22am: You should spend some time in Lough Derg, Pat! God is our ultimate judge. You should stop playing God with other people’s lives. Are your lace curtains in flitters yet with all that peeping through!!!!God help you….

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Are you saying that predatory homosexuality is not a problem in the RC priesthood. Answer please!
Are you saying that God approved of J P Lyttle saying “I wank, I’m horned. I watch porn”
Are you saying God approves of priests seducing young male parishioners?

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9.41
Spend time at Lough Derg? 😯
Seriously? 😲
This is the sado-masochim that gets Irish Roman Catholics laughed at around the world. 😨
I sometimes wonder; I really do. 😕

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Lol no 9:41 isn’t saying he approves what he’s actually saying is its wrong to disapprove or question.
Priests are public figures and can only expect the public to question their behaviour.

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2.10

Disturbed individual?

Moi? 😕

And you then turn to a fat, Italian glutton for intercession? 😤

Hah-hah-hah 😅

Pio? Now THERE was a disturbed individual! 😈

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Mother of Perpetual Help,
with the greatest confidence
we come before your holy picture
to be inspired by the example of your life.
We think of you at that moment when,
full of faith and trust,
you accepted God’s call
to be the mother of his Son.
Help us, your children,
to accept with joy our own calling in life.
When you learned that your cousin Elizabeth was in need
you immediately went to serve her
and offer your help.
Help us, like you,
to be concerned for others.
We think of you, Mother,
at the foot of the cross.
Your heart must have bled
to see your Son in agony.
But your joy was great
when he rose from the dead,
victorious over the powers of evil.
Mother of Sorrows,
help Magna and all of us through the trials and
disappointments of life.
Help us not to lose heart.
May we share with you and your Son
the joy of having courageously
faced up to all the challenges of life.
Amen.

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5.02

Judging by the increased desperation of the pope to seek his help in the Covid-19 Pandemic, it appears he has already done what what you, er,said. (And probably has said likewise to the pope, and his prayers. 😲)

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There was a priest here some time back who opened up about his non-celibate sex life and received praise from Pat Buckley for his honesty and authenticity. Not sure where Buckley really stands.

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Sodomy is one of the 4 sins crying to heaven for vengance.
And yet in recent years priests publicly support it, go along with it and practice it without any conscience. THAT is not proper behavoiur of those pruporting to be part of the Body of Christ on earth.
I commend you for your restraint and suppression of sinful desires of the flesh.
But that does NOT JUSTIFY those that definitely do not act like yourelf.

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Will you bid Pat. Lots of fetish stuff you would be interested in. Special Online Auction of Antiques Fine Art, Silver, etc inc Estate of Fr Ml Lomasney, Castlelyons, Co. Cork

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5.57

Never, I say. 😡

Never! 😬

I’d rather spend the money on what goes into that cabinet. 😆

Are you with me, godammit?! 😕

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Stephen Wilson is enroute Pat in his Cabin Crew Uniform to bid for you. Stephen has an eye for Male nude art.🛀💋

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You know those three priests dancing at the front of the nave.
I’ve figured out they were sending a message about Kildorrery.
Better thing to do in church than that. And needing reconsecrating.

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Is that a new theology? Steam cleaning removes sin. Will every confessional have a stream cleaner installed?

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9.21, did you give thought to the heresies stemming from “body theology” which the televangelists copied, to the detriment of Christianity? Before all that, there was real morality, which 7.56 et al advocate. We see you disapprove of real morality?

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A PERFECT PARABLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ZHDCjW71M
Police Jason gets Pizza Delivery for Prisoners Adventure
The delivery woman is the subaltern (like the rank and file) who don’t understand what they are being used for.
The true status in the minds of the superapostles regarding the jewels / idols / shibboleths, which stands for “daring to speak up”, is ambiguous and serves as pretext for put downs and punishment.
(Diamonds aren’t made of red and blue plastic, as an older child viewer understands.) Real values aren’t aimed mainly at flaunting.
By being seen to help clean up minor “villains” the big villains get the front men on a leash as their tools. The HDMs recreate their tools, the front men, in the HDM image, that they may do those works which the HDM predestined for them to “walk” in (Eph 2:10).

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Hi come ‘ere hi. Just a thought! If the church is an alleged knocking shop as the article implies, why are so many vocal and driven folk still members. Leaving th’auld nets behind takes more than tongue talk hi

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The squeaky clean comments are just to shut up the questioners.
That is actually one of the classic defences bishops have used for abuse – and is obviously still being used.
People can reasonably expect to be in an environment without being sexually harassed and if the church environment is a cesspit people will leave.
This is the ongoing death of the church so carry on as you are guys.
It’s safer out here 😁

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Pat you are continuing to do a great job of exposing the underbelly of the church. The bitchy comments on here over the past few days are exactly what the church is like on a daily basis.
These people hate everyone and the more adults understand what the RC church is about the more they will be enabled to avoid damage from it.
It’s clearly instituted by God – if only to ensure dysfunctional, abusive, bitchy and just plain rude people are all in one place so the rest of us can avoid them.
Thank you God for this institution.

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Wouldn’t surprise me at all. The RC church is a repository of God knows what.
And in case anyone asks I say Roman Catholic because… Why should they claim ownership on catholicity, plus they don’t like it.

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11:33 am

From ontologically altered in ‘persona Christi’ holy ones of the clerical caste!!! 😳😢😈

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I have no doubt you have to delete “wicked” comments. But you also delete/refuse to allow/censor comments that challenge you – and your way of operating and acting – because you can’t answer the objections. Too near the knuckle for you isn’t that right, Pat?

The truth about you, nevertheless, is well known. You know, deep down in your evil heart, that many of the aspects of what you are doing, are incompatible with being a Christian and, one day, you will answer for it to God.

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10.17: Magna, having completed the Lough Derg pilgrimage on 3 occasions only I dispute your cynicism. But what’s new? You’ll find many faults at the heavenly banquet table!! (If you get there!). It will not live up to your expectations. That aside, when in Lough Derg, I was inspired by the throngs of young people. Amazing. God is good….more than you’ll ever appreciate. I cannit fathom why you are so destructive of everything…of a Catholic origin. Not all is flawed or wrong.

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11.48

Since you are such a fan of these masochistic practices, perhaps you could persuade me of their spiritual validity and efficacy.

The only suffering that has any spiritual and psychic value, in my opinion, is that which is endured for doing the right thing; anything else (like self-flagellation) is a morbid and warped self-indulgence.

Try doing the right thing, just for one day, and you will experience a cornucopia of suffering…no need of travel to Lough Derg to engage in a form of self-mortification whose rationale (and spiritual diversion of Christianity’s course) can be traced to St Jerome and his mistranslation of the Greek ‘metanoeite’ (‘repentance’) into the Latin ‘poenitentiam agite’ (‘do penance’) before its being codified in Celtic monasticism.

We (well, some of us) are today still living the legacy of this quasi-spiritual humbug.

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1.08: Magna, has the devil finally overtaken you? Who are you to crush other people’s faith, prayer, beliefs or spiritual journeys? I am delighted to have completed Lough Derg on 3 occasions. If I was in better health I’d be there again as soon as is possible. The only quasi-spirutual humbug I witness is the caca you spew out here. You ARE most bereft of spuritual depth or integrity. Can you explain – simply – why you have such disdain for all others whose spirituality is deeply Catholic, mystical or of monastic or celtic tradition? Honesty, please. Show us you are not a bully but a grown up!!

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1.49
So you can’t, after all, persuade me of the spiritual validity and efficacy of those practices. Why? Is it that they’re simply assumed sacred (and, therefore, unquestionable) through becoming a sick and sorry tradition? To put it bluntly, ‘a bad habit born of…superstition’? 😕
I recall a lovely anecdote from a pilgrim to that shrine of self-harming. While all the ‘pilgrims’ (‘self-harmers’) were fasting on dry toast and walking barefoot chanting…God-knows-what…the tormenting aroma of fried sausages wafted from the open window of a priest’s kitchen, thereby adding the agony of Romanist cynicism to the ‘pilgrims’ deprivation.
As ever, the Romanist priests stuffed their bloated faces with good things (‘good things’ is ambiguous for ‘all sorts of things’, not just for cooked sausages😎) while the sheep went hungry and strained.
Loug Derg is a microcosm of the Church: of the sharp, and pretentious, contrast between a privilged clergy, and a subservient laity.

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MC at 1.08pm

Did St Jerome mistranslated the Bible? Just wondering cos saw it somewhere that I can’t rem

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6.33
Yes, he did.
Martin Luther picked up on the fact from his study of the Greek texts of the New Testament rather than Jerome’s Latin vulgate translation of them. Luther reasoned, correctly, that the nearer to the original language one studied the New Testament, the more likely his understanding of it to be reliable.
Jerome postulated a god who wanted his pound of flesh (penetential exercise) for every sin committed, wheras Luther demonstrated that all God required was a personal acknowledgement that certain behaviours were not acceptable to him, harmful to the human spirt, and detrimental to one’s eschatological destiny (his state in the afterlife).
And then, with God’s transforming grace, to persevere in the attempt to eradicate those behavious from his or her life.

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11.48
‘Not all is flawed or wrong’? I won’t argue with that, but I shall add that what is not innately wrong can sometimes have jaws dropping to the floor with incredulity.
St Patrick’s Purgatory, on Lough Derg in Co Donegal, now has a rival for hilarity 😅 and bemusement. 😕 On Saturday, Pope Francis is to be joined, through live-streaming, at the mock-up of the Lourdes grotto in Vatican City gardens by prayer-supplicants at other Marian shrines around the world. Their collective mission? To ‘implore’ the Virgin Mary to intercede for humankind to bring the Covid-19 Pandemic to an end. Apparently, recent inter-faith prayer with Muslims did not do the trick, so the pope has decided its best to keep such an ambitious intercessory objective in the broader Church family…to see if this will get the Virgin Mary’s attention instead.
You could not make up this stuff.
These supplicants are the very people who would tell the world that God had some mysterious purpose in not preventing the Pandemic, which apparently he could have done, since, alledgedly, he is all-powerful.
The mind-games Heaven plays with Earth, in Rome, and on Lough Derg.😨
Incidentally, there is a high irony in my disclosing this information after such a withering critique of it: I have just broadcast news of Saturday’s event. Those of you sympathetic to a little Marian arm-twisting may now join the global prayer assualt. 😃

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9.44: Pat, I’m not approving of any scenarios you paint. We each must live our conscience always in the light of God. Our sins, flaws, evil and unacceptable behaviour require penance and cleansing and criminal abuse must be dealt with by civil law. Where scandal is given I believe the priest must, in conscience, make a very difficult decision. Do we deserve a slaughtering of humiliation? I don’t know…God is our ultimate judge, not you.

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No. You dont deserve a slaughtering of humiliation. Can you address how to solve the current situation of widespread predatory homosexual activity in seminaries and dioceses?

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11.55: Pat, I am as appalled as you are at the disclosures of all kinds of abuses and morally unacceptable behaviour. I am appalled that rigorous psychological programmes and pre acceptance interviews, discernment and monitoring seem insufficient to detect potential misbehaviour of an unacceptable kind. I know many gay people (non clerics) and I most certainly would not accept thei indiscriminate “do as you like” philosophyby many. I’ve befriended some amazing gay people. I know priests who are gay and wonderfully good, human and caring men but who also are faithful to celibacy. There are some who struggle horribly with their sexuality. When brought to light by whatever forum these men should avail if a psychological/sexuality discerning programme and be helped make a more honest decision. This debate will last forever until the Church seriously re-examines its teachings on human sexuality (a beautiful gift), celibacy/married priesthood for men and women and its horrible treatment of gay people. I believe most priests are compassionate to gay people but sadly, our hypocrisy, double standards and the history of clerical abuse is a shadow that haunts and colours the perceptions which people have of us.

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11.52
‘Our sins, flaws, evil and unacceptable behaviour require penance…’? Er, no they don’t: they require repenting of (turning away from, first attitudinally, and then behaviourally).

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3.01: You utter dope, Magna! There was nothing wrong with comment at 11.52: If there is a problem, it’s YOU. Perhaps you might consider a penance or a full gospel “metanoia”. You need it. You also forgot the entirery of my comment when responding. Nothing new….you are a total dope.

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Hi Bishop Pat. To endorse the comments of the ex Glasgow Priest above. This Diocese has several excellent men in it. All committed to Priesthood and to their vocation. Unfortunately it is also a cesspit of gay sex, poppers, relationships and grooming. I watch one or two of the ring leaders say Mass and lead prayers on social media, leading double lives to the extreme. I know one younger man who was taken advantage off by a senior Priest several years ago, another Priest took him there under the pretence of talking about a possible vocation. Within and hour, the Priest took advantage sexually and then said we had better return to praying. The victim doesn’t want to rock the boat as he is ashamed. I know of another who moved his lay boyfriend into the Presbytery and they lived together for over a year. Nothing was done about, although the Priest did eventually leave. One Priest from
Glasgow has been in a sexual relationship with a Priest from a nearby Diocese for many years and again, this is well know about. There is also a gay circle of Priests in Glasgow, Paisley and Motherwell who all meet regularly and holiday together at least 3 times a year. At least 3 clergy here are also on leave for taking advantage of men, or on one case a young female Parishioner. They continue to be funded by the lay faithful. You will also know of the Priest who was caught on the holy altar a few years back, naked and with a sex toy in him. He is still running a Parish here. I’m coming towards the end of my time in post. but I have decided that these people need exposed. Nothing will ever change otherwise. Thing is, I feel guilty as they are all good men, bit it is the double standards element that bothers me more than anything. Maybe I need to pray harder before naming them, although I suspect that this contribution will encourage others to come forward.

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Thank you Fr J. There is a world of difference between a priest who falls in love with one person and the type of gay network we are speaking of.

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Agreed Pat. I’m from Birmingham Archdiocese. Glasgow certainly does sound miles better. Must look at a transfer!

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Fr J. You are not the first to make accusations about the Archdiocese of Glasgow. There is a pattern here. Be interesting to see if any other Scottish followers can cast further light on any of the strange goings on there. Sounds to me that the whole place is out of control.

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Father J. please do not feel guilty at all but these priests need to be exposed and really I personally think it is the problem = Philip does not have the guts.

As for the relationship of the Paisley priest with the Glasgow priest that is simmering away + John has got two C/O but he needs the third sorted however the Good thing for Glasgow is hopefully this will explode and + John will not be transferred to Glasgow.

Glasgow needs sorted in every way as sadly= Philip had the wrong people around him but hopefully soon the other one will go and it will be a fresh Curia.

My advice although not worth much is when you do expose these so called priests go over to St. Andrews Drive and do it not at Clyde Street.

I hope for Glasgow that +Joe’s eyesight gets better and he is transferred to Glasgow and sorts out the Parishes and Curia.

Over 300K is spent on Senior Officers in Glasgow HQ

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Thanks Stephen. Useful. We are on the same page clearly. They have been together for 20 odd years and they have the odd tiff like every couple
I guess. I don’t have any objections to their relationship per se, but the Glasgow based guy is rampant and has been up to all sorts for over 30 years, yet it is overlooked. He has been more careful these last few years with his social media posts and no Police for a while. Yes, he is moving out of his high profile post in the Autumn we are told. The Paisley guy lost weight and likes attention from younger. He seems nice in fairness. One of the 3 Paisley c/o guys is a lovely man and won’t be back. Good career now and a lovely dog. Hope he finds happiness, he is a looker and won’t have difficulty finding a friend. I encouraged the victim to go direct to +P’s house or to call safeguarding, but not sure he will. All they will do is offer him money to gag him anyway. +P knows who these men are but hasn’t the energy to deal. I know he would
like to though. The staff at HQ are mostly a waste of space. The Comms man is on over £85k and they have got him editing their newspaper now as he is bored and the days of Archbishops needing a Director of Comms are gone as they rarely communicate. Let’s see who else contributes to the state of Glasgow and Paisley.

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DON’T dare wish that fat, blind, alcoholic dummy on Glasgow! Shame on you!
He has just appointed one of his wee Blairs Boys, after only 3 years ordination , to one of the prime parishes in Motherwell, Rutherglen, who was being a lovely wee boy with another former Blairs priest who was the parish priest. The whole thing is a satanic plague. And the Rector from Blairs was . . . . someone by the name of Keith Patrick!
The Priest who stood against it in Motherwell, wrote a book about it and gave the names, has been suppressed/sidelined by your Joe even though Rome found in the priest’s favour and said he should be restored to parish.
Joe has is known to have said that while he is Bishop, that priest will not be back; stinks!
But Joe is happy to have a Gay Boy wearing rainbow ties instead of a collar and remain as a PP.
The Catholic Church in Scotland is cancer ridden and needs un-merciless surgery to remove that cancer starting at the top. You would have thought that such a thing might have followed the Keith Patrick affair, but sadly and worryingly not.

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Priceless! I quote…
“Father J. please do not feel guilty at all but these priests need to be exposed …”
If only some of the contributors here had been saying that when the lay group Catholic Truth in Scotland was doing the exposing. We were punished and insulted for our trouble.
The same people here – especially those claiming to be priests – will be held accountable at their judgment for failing to speak out to warn us all, the ordinary Catholics paying for the disgraceful “lifestyles” of these anything-but-Catholic priests, which they, now, have the nerve to describe. Especially given that they had a forum ready to hand (Catholic Truth) and failed to do so because (wait for this) the Bishops of Scotland disapprove of Catholic Truth. DUH.
There is much more to say about this discussion thread – but it has left me speechless! Priests would sooner come onto the blog of Bishop Pat Buckley, rather than work with a concerned group of laity in their own country, but for now I’ll settle for pointing out that I’m always astounded that so few Catholics are aware that that is what they are: Catholics. Not “Roman Catholics”. Here’s a very short history of the name of the Church. Let’s not support the Protestants in their attempt to spread the heresy of the Branch Theory…
http://www.catholictruthscotland.com/How%20Did%20the%20Catholic%20Church%20Get%20Her%20Name%20Kenneth%20Whitehead.pdf
The next Catholic Truth newsletter will be published in July. You can download it from the Newsletter page on our website. I’ll try to fit in a wee mention of this conversation, which has been rivetting. So, watch for that…
With thanks to the priest who alerted me to this discussion.
Wishing you all a happy and fruitful Feast of Pentecost on the morrow …
Our Lady, Queen of the Apostles, pray for us…

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Father Jim Maybe crossed wires the Glasgow priest was in the curia and was replace by another who you think maybe going in Autumn was suppose to be by Easter but covid has put things on hold.

And I think that’s the one you maybe speaking lying low.

As for Paisley I understand he is in the curia but then changes are afloat with a new ordination some.

I do not think + Philip really has the heath and Rome will not give a coadjutor and five years can be a long time however +Keenan is desperate to get Glasgow and one of the old curia could return..

Remember + Toal, Nolan, McGhee as will a + Keenan but + Cushley wants Rome or Glasgow and so interesting times.

+ Philip does not have the health or the ruthlessness for Glasgow.

The Director of Comms had + Philip70 that how efficient he is on twitter and facebook.

here now needs to be a masterplan for Scotland with some diocese very low numbers.

Hopefully many changes September / October in all diocese.

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Just heard Brendan Seery summoned to Marriott Street from MK today by a less than happy Bishop Oakley. Someone is reading your blog.

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A message was sent to +Francis to protest at the Ordination of Oakley signed by Vinny, Roche and Gallagher. I don’t know what’s going on in Rome but Bertone is still in the background and is advising Francis on the quiet. He has the best apartment within Vatican City

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I went into the bookshop one day I was passing. I was also invited to lunch one day by the classics lecturer Martin Pulbrook – a wonderful man and a Unitarian minister.
Oh wait! I nearly forgot. I was in the profs dining room when I visited Maynooth as a guest of the D&C priest James O Kane who taught moral theology and canon law.
And I did protest at the gates a few times.

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Whatever we protests over, as long as we are acting in accordance with our conscience, then we are good in God’s eyes.
Unless it is something evil and wisted like clerical abuse; including its covering up and enabling!

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I commented on your blog some time ago when Conor Gannon was in your headlines. I suggested it was all a house of cards because of his connections with Leeds and Westminster seminarians and priests. Guess who I had in mind?

Conor’s moved to London and has gone all Gaelic on Facebook (Ó Gionáin) but the connections remain.

Sean Elliott’s start in seminary was delayed because he was indiscreet with where he left his equipment. Josh is known to have been indiscreet with his equipment in a different way, before and after ordination. No amount of lace and embroidery can hide that.

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Is Peter O’Kane ok these days no more bitch fights. Our Fr Peter has a colorful dark secret erotic past from his time as a seminarian in The Irish College Rome. very naught wee Peter O’Kane in the leather Swing aka Chariots Sauna.

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Peter O’Kane failed to dislose his past to his superiors in the Dominicans. Was his past double lifestyle discovered in Derry and he legged it? . Tom Surlis is also closely connected to wee Peter.

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Why would this man enter such an establishment and subjected his body to sexual deprivation. ‘The Leather Swing’ suggests a group act.

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The saunas have been closed for ages you numpty. Chariots have sold most of their properties to property developers, keep up to date.

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Not sure if it’s popular with Irish people in general – it’s a money making place. Not nice. No point asking about saunas as they are all closed. You are not well informed are you?

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Did I read this blog properly? Was there really a Priest in Glasgow who was found in a Church with a dildo up him and he is still in Ministry? Does this really happen in the RCC?

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no James, that would be your sick imagination. I suggest you seek help. I hear the NHS has fantastic psychiatric services. hurry tho

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Yes was featured in the media and + Philip has given further roles and a Good Parish.
After therapy
They are all struggle with the saunas closed and private hotel saunas as well.

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@1:16
I take your point and obviously I’m not answering for Bishop Buckley.
I would like to think that ‘exposing’ the dysfunction in the church would be unnecessary, and would certainly not be desirable.
However balanced against that is that when you attempt to speak to anyone who is supposed to have a responsibility or the power to change there remains a solid wall of denial and obfuscation.
You must remember that many posters here have repeatedly banged their head against this wall and it is very evident that despite the rhetoric literally nothing around human dignity and the behaviour of the clergy has changed.
In the circumstances I would be grateful for any realistic ways to change the church’s behaviour.

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Just persuade EVERYBODY to stop contributing in any way to the RCC, financially, materially etc. And I purposely put larger letters for everybody.
But I’m afraid it would be a hopeless task, so sorry I can’t be more realistic. Cathbots and holy water hens like to feel “good” about contributing. It’s a bit like those who starve themselves and walk barefooted around in Lough Derg. It’s the self “denial” bit, almost a “holier than thou” euphoria.

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Howzabout we do what the CEO of any successful Company would do, fifty years after introducing massive changes to the way the Company worked, seeing that these innovations had all but destroyed his Company; unable to retain staff, with customers abandoning the firm wholesale (so to speak!) and very few wanting to shop there any more.

My wild guess is that he would set about restoring that which had been lost and see if he could return to his earlier success…

Just a (very obvious) thought…

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There is a dangerous approach if we treat all expelled seminarians as possible sex offenders and abusers. Of course some of those expelled do have serious problems. But far from all.
What about all seminarians expelled from seminary or diocese because they refuse taking part in all the sex, drugs and rock’n’roll? They are many. It is almost impossible today to get through seminary to ordination if you become a seminarian simply because you’re answering what you believe is a call to priesthood – which of course should be the reason to become a seminarian. But it is not your vocation to the priesthood they are interested in. It is your look and if they can have any use of you for pleasure, abuse, bullying or similar. If you refuse, or even worse – report and complain about it they’ll have you expelled “for the best of the church in these turbulent times”. The church is an expert in victim blaming and use it often as a cover up and penalty. It’s more likely a seminarian that is sexually groomed or raped will be kicked out rather than the abuser. Often given a reason like it is for the best of the church. And he will never be able to be accepted somewhere else and answer his true vocation, while the abuser continous as nothing has happened or have strong supporters arranging for his transfer to a different diocese or seminary.
We see it happening every day. At Oooh Scott. At Wo(a)n(k)ersh. At Anal Hole. At Gaynooth.

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Bishop Pat, there was a person called Pablo mentioned on your blog yesterday from Allen Hall who we learned committed suicide. I was very upset to know this as are others I’ve since shared this with today. God rest his soul. I thank you for telling us 19 years later as it’s a huge shock . He studied at Heythrop and Allen Hall. He was the most gentle, quiet man you could meet. RIP Pablo

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There was also the unexplained “suicide” of the young Offaly seminarian in St Patrick’s, Thurles

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It would be invaluable to get information on the number of suicides that have taken place among abuse victims. The Thumpers from Thurles strike again hi? I know of one neocat seminarian in London and six children of neocat families in the UK who couldn’t take any more. Not Paul hi.

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Michael Deegan. He was soon forgotten by Clifford and the diocese of San Francisco who sponsored him. Michael RIP. Another suicide in a Seminary – still no answers Thanks Fr Pat for keeping his name alive

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That story on your blog about Pablo RIP last night was true. Some might be cynical about information on your blog.
I’m glad someone broke the story to you because the Neo Cats and Westminster have blood on their hands. The Republic of Ireland now have Neo Cats near Dundalk, my advice for all its worth – beware.

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Fellow seminarians were bullying him by shoving gay porn under his door.

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The Neo Cats are a sect. They are totally weird and they are loonies from all corners of the world. Their liturgy (own liturgy) made up by them is weird. They are a cult. Watch out for them in Ireland. The Archbishop in Armagh allowed them in to Ireland. My advice – watch and learn. Disaster.

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The NeoCats are a completely bonkers and dangerous group, but they should also serve as a warning to the Church about the dangers of lay-led reform movements.
The NeoCats is primarily a lay-led group founded by laypeople Francisco “Kiko” Argüello and Carmen Hernández. It was originally an early form of Basic Ecclesial Community (something that Pat wrote about earlier in the week). It won the support of Church leadership, but it has retained its independence and the leadership, whilst still being mainly made up of laity, has become extremely clericalist, legalistic, and controlling.
It fulfils many of the criteria to be described as a cult:
1. It has a charismatic leader.
2. A process [of indoctrination or education is in use that can be seen as] coercive persuasion or thought reform [commonly called “brainwashing”].
3. Economic, and other exploitations of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie.

There are countless distressing stories of members and ex-members who have been exploited and abused by the movement: From LGBT identifying members being driven to suicide after condemned publically, PUBLIC confessions made in front of the entire community with extreme sexual content in the presence of children, Seminarians having passports confiscated and imprisoned in seminaries in foreign countries, families encouraged to shun family members who are considered “tainted”… the list goes on.

It is my belief that the The NeoCatechumenal Way has inflicted more damage upon the Catholic Church than ANY other group and I am aghast that it hasn’t been condemned by the Church (although a few good dioceses have limited their activities, or even banned them!) and I’m aghast there hasn’t been a more negative focus on them in the media.

When ANY new Catholic movement begins, there should be a move against cult like activity.
No group should associate themselves with one charismatic leader.
No group should suggest that they have the correct answer, and other groups are in error.
No group should exploit anyone, ever.

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Of course they are cults. The SSPX also is a cult… did you know laity are banned from watching television? I learnt this a few years ago when a friend of mine (who is SSPX) told me she had to hide the TV because her priest was visiting her elderly mother who lived with her.

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7.53 there’s a lot more than just those three. It’s never been good enough that we were “catholic”, for the church. We had to be far more than that. Look at all the varieties of “knights”, menaces every last one.

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7:44

Gay porn…..!
Who knew what? Were the faculty aware of anything?
Did anyone know bullying was going on? Any repercussions on the bullies?

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The gay porn was brought to the president.

He did nothing.

The bullying continued.

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I must be daft never heard of the neo Cats however Glasgow has given them a place in Clydebank and some in Paisley..
+ Philip’s brother has brought them.

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Dear Patrick Buckley I only learned from a friend earlier today about Pablo who I studied with in Heythrop. Very sad news He liked his smokes.

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BP at 7.13pm

For victims of sexual abuses by rcc who died from suicides or otherwise. So that their souls be released from pain, mental turmoil and suffering. RIP.

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I’m sure all those poor souls have already being wonderfully healed by being in the presence of God.

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8:00
The president of the seminary knew what was going on but did nothing!!! How come?
Were any of the bullies ordained? Any legal repercussions?

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It’s strange all of this. The wife and I like the Fr. Brown series each afternoon on ITV3. It dealt with a suicide in the Seminary just a few weeks back and Fr Brown mentioned Allen Hall on the programme.

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I too enjoy Father Brown, though the reference to Allen Hall in the fifties was anachronistic, as the seminary only moved from St Edmund’s Ware to Chelsea in the seventies.

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What about Old Hall Green. It was of its time when Fr Brown was set. C K Chesterton I believe wrote the Fr Brown series.

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C K Chesterton was a great awriter. I’m glad people are enjoying the Father Brown programmes as much as I’ve done.

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8.17
He was certainly those things, but less than gracious about his former co-religionists: Chesterton once described the spiritual ambience of Anglican-church interiors as impressing upon personal sensibility ‘the presence of the real absence’, a sniffy allusion to the spiritual superiority (he believed) of their Roman Catholic counterparts.
Like a drunkard, there is, it seems, only one thing worse than a practising Anglican: one that has reformed (in this case, converted to Roman Catholicism).

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Pablo was not at Allen Hall. He was from Valencia and placed at the Redemptoris Mater house of formation in London. Apparently he took an overdose. Neos coudn’t suppress the information on this one which is their normal modus operandi. I hope that Pablo is in less need of your mass Bishop Pat than the people who put him in that position.

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The neocats celebrate their eucharist on Saturday evenings and rarely will a stranger be present. I am assured that their eucharist is a “sacrifice of praise” and not the catholic sacrifice of the body and blood of Christ. How does this sit with other catholics? Maybe Pablo saw the light!

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All the people at Allen Hall who knew and loved Pablo must have been absent for the 3-4 years we attended lectures with him @8.09 pm. Don’t insult his memory.

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You are so wrong about the details of Pablo’s death. You are a troll. You’ve latched on to this story as a troll. Give his family some dignity ffs

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Pat plesar withdraw that comment @ 8.01pm. That is a total disgrace and untrue to Pablo. I beg you on behalf of his family.

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Archbishop Martin of Armagh has so many complaints about the Neo Catechumenate it’s unreal They are weird. He is weird. The people he has round him are weird.

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Eamon has been told directly that the Neo Cats who he’s South of the border would be a disaster. He won’t listen.

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@7.22pm You are a sick pathetic buzzard picking over the bones of the dead. Have some respect you parasite

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I was astonished to see the picture on the home page of the diocese of Northampton:
https://northamptondiocese.org
It seems to be a bit much to show the Holy Spirit actually descending on the bishop and putting the picture where it is – it smacks of arrogance and is giving a message that the bishop is divinely inspired and at least suggesting everyone else can shut up.

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Some of the others must feel honoured to get cabbages sprouting out of their heads. Am so glad Bernard is deprived, with nothing but a blank emanating from his!

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Who is the plump young deacon wearing a lace alb on Oakley’s left? Given the simplicity of the vestments worn by every other cleric, this lacy madam is making a statement. How might this be interpreted?

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Northampton diocese is the richest in England. You alluded to this recently Pat. Is that true? I know it takes in Eton College and the P’M’s pile at Chequers. In Buckinghamshire

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What a laugh. Eton College is in Portsmouth diocese and Chequers PM’s retreat is in the diocese of East Anglia. Lol

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I rather doubt that either Boris or Eton contribute to the running of the Northampton Diocese. Also I have no idea what its assets are.

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Northampton does indeed take in Eton College (just about). It’s parish is Eton Wick and the Thames is the boundary I just discovered tonight between it and Portsmouth diocese. A bridge separates them. As for Chequers which is Bucks, Northampton encompasses all of Bucks, many stars of stage and screen live there. Terry Wogan lived in Taplow in the Parish of Bourne End. Gerrards Cross is a mega celebrity hot spot but the plebs dont look after that – the Carmelites hold the keys to that one.

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I was glad to be informed of the spread of the NeoCats, as I had had no idea of their extent. It explains now why so many seminarians at Allen Hall are listed as belonging to Redemptoris Mater. What a disaster the Catholic priesthood is: nancy-boys leading a double life, ex Anglicans who now fancy becoming “proper” priests while continuing to do their own thing, and nut-cases belonging to various cults and sects. I’m done with it all. We would all do better watching Father Brown on the telly. ( By the way, I think Old Hall Green is St Edmunds Ware, and the location of the Westminster Seminary until moving to Allen Hall in the seventies when Mgr Jim O’Brien was Rector – succeeded by that awful charlatan John Coghlan, who died recently. )

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You are indeed right my friend @8.41pm. Allen Hall was at Ware and Old Hall Green before transferring to Chelsea. Bishop James O’Brien was a saintly man and decent, some of the Rectors after that were horrid men including the convicted John Coughlan who has died in the last few months.

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Having a Laugh with Bishop Marcus. and the other deacon and Seminarian.
However Bishop Marcus would like the article closed as Westminster is vacant in November.

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Showband legend and Waterford native Brendan Bowyer has passed away aged 81 in Las Vegas surrounded by his family.
Brian Darcy is raging that the restrictions mean that he cannot fly to Vagas as chief mourner and chaplain to the stars.

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Bishop Pat a previous comment suggested Tom Surlis is close to Peter O’Kane. Now Tom believe me was no saint in Rome while stretching out his Doctorate to prevent Parish Ministry in Ireland. Tom loved the high life in Rome.

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Pat are you aware of some of the awful things that have happened in Galloway in Scotland? Former Bishop Taylor covering up for child abusing friend, Paul Moore, who incidentally was a friend of the late Brendan Smythe. For a long period of the 80’s/90’s the VD was allowed total freedom to recruit queens from all over the country, but often not from the diocese, and had his own harem. Binge drinking, rich living and lots of gay sex were par for the course. It was so bad at one point that Galloway was referred to as TSB (after the bank) the diocese that likes to say YES! The then VD was a close personal friend of Keith “Bunny” O’Brien…
The rot is still there in Galloway, some of it’s current younger clergy having a name as voracious drinkers and active queens! It’s not a diocese with that many priests so it’s fairly straightforward working out who is who…I mean, St Joseph, pray for us!

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