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CATHOLIC SCOTLAND THE SCANDAL

Scottish Registered Charity No. SC011041

Rt Rev. Joseph Toal STB KC*HS
Bishop of Motherwell

11th August 2017

Letter to the Clergy and Lay Faithful of the Diocese of Motherwell

Dear Fathers, Deacons, and Lay Faithful of the Diocese,

UPDATE ON THE CASE OF FR MATTHEW DESPARD.

I have been asked in recent times by various people, clergy and lay, to say something about the
situation regarding Fr Matthew Despard. I write this letter, therefore, to record what has happened
and what the present situation is.

The canonical trial of Fr Despard for crimes associated with the publication of his book Priesthood in Crisis concluded with a Decision given by the Apostolic Court of the Roman Rota, to which Fr Despard  had appealed after the Decision reached by the Inter-Diocesan Court of the Catholic Church in Scotland.

The Decision of the Roman Rota partly affirmed and partly reversed or “reformed” the Decision made by the Scottish Tribunal.

The decision on appeal confirmed that Fr Despard had committed the crime of defamation and he was required to remove the defamatory book from the
Internet and from all other selling or distribution sites whether real or virtual, or at least, in the
judgement of his Bishop do all that he reasonably could to this end. I accept that Fr Despard has
fulfilled this requirement.

For the duration of the canonical trial Fr Despard retained the office of PP of St John Ogilvie’s, High
Blantyre, but was placed on administrative leave in accordance with the law.

Once the trial concluded, and in the light of all that had happened, I then determined it necessary to
initiate an investigation to establish whether Fr Despard should be removed as Parish Priest of the
Parish of St John Ogilvie, High Blantyre, in accord with the Code of Canon Law.

From the serious evidence gathered I concluded that Fr Despard be requested to resign as Parish Priest of St John Ogilvie’s. He agreed to do so and I accepted his resignation.

Fr Despard has requested that he now be allowed to return to public priestly ministry by being given
a new pastoral assignment in the Diocese of Motherwell.

Conscious of my canonical obligation to ensure that a person nominated to an ecclesiastical office possesses the required suitability for that
office, and having consulted the Motherwell Diocesan Consultors, I have asked Fr Despard to fulfil certain requirements. I await his response indicating his willingness to accept and carry out to my satisfaction these requirements.

I ask your continued prayer for Fr Despard, myself, and the Diocese of Motherwell.

———————–

FATHER H

Pat re Archdiocese of Glasgow and across Scotland. My top ten, in no particular order.


1. KOB crisis – Gilhooley and co accusers still in Ministry. Read Gilhooley’s book ‘Pajama Parade’ about sexual goings on in Scotland. He used KOB more than the other way around.


2. A serving Bishop is Scotland had a sexual relationship with KOB for several years.


3. The Parish Priest in Glasgow found with a vibro up his ass a few years back still in ministry.


4. The rent boy bribing the previous PP in St Augustines, Milton after sucking him
off in Kelvingrove Park. Retired but still does supply work.


5. The same Priest used to take in alcoholic clergy to dry them out and offered them booze in return for a BJ (wearing leathers).


6. The openly Gay high ranking Priest who has been in a sexual relationship with another Priest in next door Diocese for years, although in recent weeks they have had a tiff.


7. The same Priest attacked in a gay club and taken to a private hospital to avoid any media coverage.


8. Fr Sweeney from St Maria Goretti Parish currently suspended for trying to seduce a teenager who he was counselling.


9. The Priest from the South of Glasgow who has has seen more knob ends than I’ve seen weekends and is very promiscuous. Streams Mass on social media making out he is holier than thou.


10. The Priest in the main Cathedral who makes it know that he hates homosexuals and will always refuse absolution – clergy exempt from his rule.

Yes that’s the reality. More later!

Hi Pat,

Fresh Start Foundation represent a client who was the victim of a paedophile ring of priests in Lanarkshire from 1958 – 1961 where he was raped every school day for 4 years (700+ rapes) from the age of 8 years old by the resident priests of the diocese and by priests who were invited to visit to rape and our client was also gang-raped by priests and Brothers at a retreat called Fatima House, Symington near Kilmarnock. One of whom was Brendan Smythe and we are concerned that Coodham may have been used as a paedophiles playground within easy access of priests from Ireland , North and South and Scotland.

Our client wants nothing more than to spread the word to make sure that this does not happen to any other child and when the rapes were raised with the Catholic Church their first inclination was to cover it up.

Our client is in the process of writing his autobiography and hopefully it will help to change the way the Catholic church view children and it is clear that they need to undergo radical and fundamental change if they are to be trusted with children ever again.

There may have been as many as 14 paedophiles there and there seems to be evidence of trafficking children to Barry Bennell, another convicted paedophile.

Keep up the good work.

Take it easy,

Neil J. McKechnie

For and on behalf of

Fresh Start Foundation

PAT SAYS

It seems to me that the RCC in Scotland is in a really bad state.

Has this anything to do with KOB who spent decades involved in serious homosexual activity in both seminary and diocese?

FIRST POST COVID WEDDING AT THE ORATORY YESTERDAY.

Open air.

Maximum 5 people.

All those at the wedding travelled together in a car from Cork – one family unit.

M

147 replies on “CATHOLIC SCOTLAND THE SCANDAL”

Pat. Spot on about Glasgow particularly here. Fr H, your correspondent/reporter is on the money. Well done for exposing all this. I suspect that word will quickly spread about this
and Fr will be called in to speak to the Arch. I’ve only been ordained a few years and I am pretty certain that I know who he is. He’s been threatening to do this for a years. Good on him!

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I can confirm all the accusations about Glasgow and Paisley are 100% TRUE.

However what is needed is for the Bishops to take action and to be fair + Philip does not have the energy and the health but the careerist + Keenan should sort out his own dioceses instead of running to the see + Nicolls.

Sort out ALL the C/O in every dioceses it is NOT the Bishops paying for it sadly it is the Lay Faithful.

As for the high ranking cleric is was said he is getting replaced in the Autumn but he should be replaced NOW and resign from his parish.

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Coodham is the place but somehow it is not the same place as described.

The Passionists run the retreat house and many retreat were very spiritually and I do not agree with the reputation that this blog is giving it now.

However most of the Coodham Priests and brothers are in St. Mungo’s or Mount Angus

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Jim. Yes, everything said here is correct. He will not resign in a month of Sundays. He is actually a nice kind and clever man, but should not be in Ministry. Poor Phil is up to high dough with it all and an Auxiliary was to be appointed, but the 3 names put forward were all unsuitable. All put on hold. Thanks

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Why does this Charles Hawtrey lookalike behave as though he were addressing an actual congregation?

Creepy. 😨

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4.16

Yes, Einstein, I knew that. But his congregation wasn’t present IN THE CHURCH, now was it? And yet ‘Father’, while wittering on interminably, looks around him as if it was. 😕 As I said, ‘creepy’. 😨

Is he the sort to have imaginary friends?

The berk should have spoken to camera, not to empty pews.

And a homily lasting fifteen or sixteen minutes?😩 The Sermon on the Mount didn’t take so long. 😞 (But to this guy, it was probably far less significant.😆)

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My people be strong not weak like this wimp wants. I desire truth in your inmost parts not your panting for his confections.

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I’m still not convinced that this guy is serious ?! Are you sure he’s not doing spoofs of a high pitched voiced, prissy, queeny, young old fogey, clergy man for a TV show ? If it is serious, and made for his parishioners to watch during lockdown, I’m sure he gets good viewing figures because it is far funnier than anything you will find on any other channel !
Is this guy a priest of Southwark ? If so, surely his bishop + Wilson should be having a word with him cop on, and tell him that this kind of portrayal of the liturgy, of Church teaching, is not where we are for the most part. It’s only alive and kicking in the odd corners of traditionalist, oddball conservatism.
Finally, Southwark watchers, keep an eye out about for this young chump. I’m sure when he’s not dressing up and screaming this stuff to the camera, he is out and about living the other bit of his life. He’s put himself in front of the camera, so it’s fair for us to keep an eye on him and see what he is up to when he’s not dressing up and prancing about. I think I know what his game is !

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I was rolling about laughing like. Oh Lord, you do have a good sense of humour 😜 My sides are hurting

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He has NO chance with + Wilson he is no fool so I hope + Wilson sees or hears about this.

+ Wilson is addressing issues daily in Southwark archdioceses and will decide soon how many assistant bishops he wants as + Lynch retires next year and he will be down to one.

Southwark Priest watchers you have landed lucky with + Wilson

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We had Alf Roberts on here with Reet & Aud and now we have Deidre Barlow. Turning into a cast from Corrie on here. By the way, Alf is keeping quiet so must be busy in the corner shop or gorging on Betty’s Hotpot in the Rovers.

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Jim S, yes your are right, + Wilson is no fool and he won’t put up with any idiotic antics from his clergy. So, this young twit might get a call soon to Archbishop’s House and be told a thing or two. At least I hope so. Even if he gets him some voice training to lower that shrill pitched voice and make it a tad more manly and robust. He would be doing us all service there.

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5.28

Showing your lack of televisual eddication, like. 😆

Didn’t you attend finishing school? 😕

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All jokes aside like, would you rather have FarrerDayCage and that wierdow from Dydiate as your pp or Carry On Charles Hawtrey? take your pick guys and dolls.

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This is a repost of a comment I posted last week. It’s more appropriate on here now that there are some Scotland specific posts.
Pat are you aware of some of the awful things that have happened in Galloway in Scotland? Former Bishop Taylor covering up for child abusing friend, Paul Moore, who incidentally was a friend of the late Brendan Smythe. For a long period of the 80’s/90’s the VD was allowed total freedom to recruit queens from all over the country, but often not from the diocese, and had his own harem. Binge drinking, rich living and lots of gay sex were par for the course. It was so bad at one point that Galloway was referred to as TSB (after the bank) the diocese that likes to say YES! The then VD was a close personal friend of Keith “Bunny” O’Brien…
The rot is still there in Galloway, some of it’s current younger clergy having a name as voracious drinkers and active queens! It’s not a diocese with that many priests so it’s fairly straightforward working out who is who…I mean, St Joseph, pray for us!

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Lucas well down for highlighting Galloway and as you will know Paul Moore got 9 years in the jail and rightly so.

The VD in the 80/90’s thought he was going to be Taylors replacement but did not happen a Holy Man was appointed but sadly ill health took over.

The VD was a very very close friend of KOB from Blairs days and still fighting for justices for KOB.

As for the present day that you state sadly it is true if not drinks or queens (with pinkie rings on) they are careerists.

Sadly + Nolan is not strong enough for them and really maybe after Despard situation where Bill Nolan was VG he may have seen Galloway as a nice place to retire.

Everyone knows who is who in Galloway maybe there is only 14 regular clergy however it takes LEADERSHIP.

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Hi Jim S, as you say the former VD thought his Edinburgh boyfriend was going to make him an Auxiliary or Rector of Chester’s or some such. The VD used to take favoured students to overnights at Kitty’s house, St Bennets, where one of the running gags was that a bed in one of the guest rooms had been slept in by JP2.

Lots of the favoured students got up to all sorts in the VD’s parish houses. Ironically most of the favourites were rejects from other places and guys native to the Diocese were often forgotten or ignored. One became a Naval Chaplain, one an Army Chaplain and a few were gotten rid of, usually after being in multiple seminaries!

There’s a lot more to tell about Galloway, I’m only just getting started…

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I’m not up to speed re KOB. My question how did he get the red hat despite his sexual affairs. Please note that I’m not familiar with KOB. but to me, it strikes a similar chord with mc Carrick. Both got red hats.
I belive one of the reasons for getting a red hat is money. Mc Carrick donated millions of dollars to the Vatican in return of their silence and secrecy. Law from Boston was the same.
Now how about KOB? How did he get red hat? Was it money despite his few affairs with some priests.??
Am I right re thinking that many cardinals out there are involved in sex? Did any of them got promoted to red hat over money or ??
Canon law is a joke more like golf club rules pertaining only to its members, not applicable to Catholic laity. State law should have more power than Canon law. Canon law is for church to hide behind the legalese. RCC is totally discredited and full of sheer hypocrises cis they still expect the laity to believe on their words. Not anymore to me or any sexual abuse survivors.
What’s the story with KOB cos I wasn’t familiar with it?
Last question, are there any other KOB cardinals or bishops out there? Just wondering…………

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Deaf Guy KOB did not get the Red hat because of money he got it because more or less his turn just like + Philip thinks it is his turn but somehow I would be surprised if any Red hats came to Scotland or Ireland as these dioceses are a disgrace.

KOB was a lovely man however his problem was a hypocrite and that is what brought him down.

His accusers in the Archdiocese has all gone quiet or passed away with one still in active ministry.

The people who all took part in the activities were all willing and of age.

So what brought KOB down was the hypocrite he was.

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Does “willing and of age” mean informed? Nicer than golf (of the club rules) no doubt. But in 25 years’ time when somebody suggests to one of these he do them a “favour” – like something or someone getting “inserted into” the church – will he have the personality to “stick up” for himself?

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Keith got his hat by mistake and when Rome twigged to it and panicked she had to make a public declaration of fidelity to the Church in her own Cathedral. Then all the homophobia bullshit started so she would look like a trad. It backfired because those who turned on him did so because of this change of direction. The man was an arrogant fool.

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So it wasn’t syphilitic insanity as I thought caused by chronic meningoencephalitis in late-stage syphilis.

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Lucas you are 100% correct about Galloway as for the Army Chaplain he still visits the VD.
The VD thought he was going to be Bishop of Galloway but did not get it.
Kitty went and blessed the new presbytery and had a party but it was never heard off before Churches yes but never presbyteries.
The current leadership of Galloway goes with the flow very weak leadership “friends” in plum parishes others never been moved in years however he has his eye on Motherwell or Glasgow but that can only happen if current Bishops resign on ill health.
Galloway will likely get amalgamated into Edinburgh or Paisley as it has no Clergy and because of the agreements the VD got for the Chaplains the Bishop cannot call them back to help out.
I personally feel it for + Philip as he inherited some situation when everyone thought Mario was the best since bread yes Mario was a great administrator.
Changes in bishopric’s should not come before 2020 and a lot of water under the bridge by then.
Will be very interesting what the New Papal Nuncios role will be when he arrives.
Here is a laugh + Keenan thinks he will be next Scottish Cardinal

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Apparently, KOB had always been very low key on gay issues (for obvious reasons we now know about), so it has always been a mystery why he turned so nasty latterly. IMHO I think he picked up an STD, not HIV, but something more than NSU; syphilis probably.

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He admitted he was putting it about as a priest, archbishop and cardinal. He could have reduced his chances of getting syphilis by using a condom or a dental dam during sex, including oral sex, and not sharing his sex toys.

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8.47 and 9.25 these are additional reasons. The fundamental one in varying forms is to create constituencies of mischief makers by bonding affections to underworld bosses, by nonsensical intensity around devotions, by daring talk about “fantasies”, by conjuring fantasies about what happens when you give away money, etc. Then you have “material” whether young parishioners to drop metaphorical turds on PPs’ doorsteps who aren’t “enthusiastic enough”, or diplomats for the “far” East.

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We’d rather not have the details of homosexual sex, thanks very much, it’s nearly dinner time.

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Josh will be fine, he slept with men all the way up to his ordination and will continue to do so. They all know about it but for some reasons no one had or has the courage to act! I wouldn’t be surprised if he is still sleeping with other priests and seminarians in and out of Leeds!

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Oooopppps, I can see a summons from + Stock to Joshua to pay him a visit at Bishop’s House PDQ ! Of course, he will deny it all. They always do. But + Stock will know. He isn’t a fool.

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Goodie goodie gum drops! Alex the Kidder will go mad, I have just been diagnosed (for the 4th time!) perfectly sane: no psychosis or delusions
but, PTSD and low mood owing to abuse from Catholic Church and their bad failings.
Ohhhh, poor Alex the kidder!
You really are in a pickle aren’t you, dear.

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FROM EDITOR

You’re a scream! I don’t “draw anyone in” – And I can assure you that Bishop Pat won’t be the subject of our column, “When Irish Eyes Are NOT Smiling” – indeed, I’ll be pointing out in our July edition that he’s one of the very few clergymen (including Bishops) to have replied to my email of enquiry, and that with courtesy.
We had a short and very pleasant email exchange thereafter, in which I made clear that I could not possibly approve of his dissent, and revealed that I am one of those terrible, terrible people who attend the Traditional Latin Mass – shock horror! Bishop Pat said he understood my position and so I invited him to meet, next time he’s in Scotland.
Now, now… I can hear you say “Come into the parlour said the spider to the fly…”
Be assured, I have no devious plans to kidnap him and take him to the nearest SSPX chapel for de-programming. Not at all. We’ll have lunch (not haggis and neeps; I like him too much for that) followed by Irish coffee and, hopefully, a pleasant – if rather Thomist – conversation.
However, Bishop Pat, I do need to warn you that I DO have character defects, and I’m not afraid to use them…: So, be prepared !

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Patricia,
Personally I never had any fear that you would kidnap me with a view to SSPX reprogramming 🤣
And, I would have no problem if you or some of your members were to take a negative view of my path and ministry. I am far from being infallible and there is plenty of scope for criticism of me.
At baptism we are all anointed as priests, prophets and kings. I believe that you and your associates are following your informed consciences and making a genuine effort to purify the church.
Of course I am not in the same place as Catholic Truth Scotland is – and each of us must toil in the part of the vineyard the Lord has assigned us to.
I will look forward to lunch and a good substantial chat.
I am of a robust character and I’m quite sure I can cope with any “character defect” you present me with.
I have always said that I would much prefer to sup with interesting people with whom I disagree that with a clone 😀

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Bp Pat, if you ever do meet up, please take someone with you, a friend, for example, in case you get shanghaied.

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Dear Brother Priest, I am genuinely sorry that I have disappointed you. I will miss your following. Pat.

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10.45: You’ve made a wise decision. This blog is now a forum for dissecting apart every cleric, alive or dead: it perpetuates lies about priests: it promotes hatred, bigotry and outrageous hate speech. It also gives a forum to drunken slobs who delight in blasphemy, mockery, innuendo, harrassment and bullying of priests. It thrives in smashing all to pieces. Wise decision. I’ve stopped forwarding serious comments and legitimate questions as they are not taken seriously.

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If bishops and priests were not misbehaving courageously this blog would have nothing to publish.

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11.17 it’s running short because of a romanist moocher’s misbehaving with cowardice and without informative insights.

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MJM…

Dear Disappointed Priest,

Please do not think less of + Buckley because of his kindness to me. He is, no doubt, much more in tune with your thinking on Church and morality matters, than with mine – he is simply being tolerant of me, and showing me some (much appreciated) kindness.

However, I won’t post any more comments and I apologise for having upset you. Same goes for the others for whom my presence here has been of concern.

All good wishes. God bless.

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Patricia, “getting rid of” you as a cosmetic move, once you had made reference to “making use of” comments, doesn’t do much to reassure against the continuing malign threat against us all, manifested otherwise. For me “ground zero” is that in my infancy church authorities were insisting there weren’t going to be beliefs. They haven’t to this day yet brazenly admitted they were cautioning me they were going to waste my lifetime and my credence (at first, it seemed chic). At one point, I enquired once too many, of a Littleton type from Valladolid. You could have reworded briefly your “making use of” and your “ground zero” so as to be less vague.

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Well done and good wishes to the newly married couple. PS can the wonky vampire willies survive the sizzling sunlight hi

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11.17am Silly argument. Have you brought a defamation case to Court? I suspect not so go and investigate the cost of doing so. Once youv’e discovered the cost then you will find the answer to your silly question.

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Cos it’s mainly the truth. Gorgeous, the King, Horney Andy, Roaree, Mrs McCamley, Captain Underpants, Amy etc would have not missed any opportunity to flog Pat in the High Court.

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Yep, I’m surprised that this blog and + Pat are not regularly sued, and the only reason I can think of is that the suitors would have not a leg to stand on, because once they were on the stand in court under oath it would all be shown to be true. So they dare not sue. Only occasionally does + Armagh try to use strong arm tacts with a solicitor’s letter to + Pat as a way of trying to scare him off the scent. But, I don’t think + Pat bothers too much. It’s wonderful to be independent and able to call to account those in authority, without fear or favour. Keep it up + Pat. They don’t like it up ’em, as Cpl Jones used to say.

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Easy to see he’s a Catholic for only along weekend.

Seriously, what attracts the like of him to convert to Catholicism?

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Lonely Curate, what’s wrong with it? Other than the first genuflection before each elevation (which has been lifted from the Old Rite) he’s following the rubrics of the Roman Canon to the letter.

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Pat
I see the deacon Michael Byrne is back in the public media this morning. Receiving iPads and it gear for a hospital.
Have you heard anything about what archbp Martins plans before he leaves Dublin

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He’s fair put the weight on Pat. Hope that means he is settled with a partner. He is still gorgeous to me.

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Pat did we ever find out what really happened in Lourdes with the Motherwell priest, Fr Chris in Westminster, the Peru seminarian?

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Fr Chris Vipers, ex-Anglican, so given a plum parish. In his Anglican days he was curate in the very camp St Michael’s CofE parish in Wood Green. He was an Anglican exchange student in the VEC back in the days of the ex-seminary rector turned chimney sweep.

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Fr Joshua Hilton priest from Leeds diocese was a very naughty boy in Allen Hall. Involved with a student who was ordained a deacon last summer and has now left the ordained state. Roger Taylor has been hiding skeletons for years.

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2.52pm spot on. Roger Taylor Rector of Allen Hall and William Nichol its Pastoral Director are both ex Anglican Vicars. +Westminster was told this would be a disaster and it has been. It’s caused deep animosity among other seminary staff and the wider diocesan clergy. +Nichols doesn’t care and has a history of promoting ex Anglicans to top positions in his former Birmingham post. Giles Goward, Bruce Dutson, Brian Doolan RIP, Jeremy Howard, Ron and Dominic Cosslett are only a few examples. In Westmimster Vincent took delight ordaining 3 ex Anglian Bishops including Broadhurst. There is now dissent that ex Anglicans are now running the RC Church in England and that it includes its Seminaries

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@5.59pm An ex Anglican name you mention from Birmingham is Giles Goward. He’s been appointed Rector of Oscott. An odd appointment of an odd bod. Two of the major English Seminaries now being run by former camp single Anglicans. Is it any wonder us native clergy are aghast. @5.59pm has hit the nail on the head.

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Oooohhh, somebody knows Birmingham Archdiocese intimately ! + Longley needs to appoint his own Inspector Clouseau and find out who is spilling the beans. I bet there’s a lot more there to be told.

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Lisieux – Roger yet another devotee. Reminds me of that other Lisieux groupee, the Spiritual Director of Oscott that Fr Msrsden complained about.

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Och Pat, it dees ma haart good when all tha wee Scotties come a troopin on ta yoor wee blawg and the wee meelodious wee Scottie voices like a wee kist o’whistles tickled by a wee Highland breeze.
Och aye the noo sure its great and ye ken just picture them sittin in a wee hoose on the bonnie banks of Loch Lomond, in a wee kilt and bonnet, wi a wee dram and a big plate of tatties and neeps, as they pour out their wee tales o’ misery and gloom and woe and sufferings and sadness, all about wullies and bare bums, o the bonnie wee laddies.
Och aye Pat, wee hen, a wee fire in the hearth, a wee Scottie doggie at the tartan-slippered feet and a wee haggis snoozing on their wee laps. A perfect wee picture o’ domestic Scotty bliss.

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Oh boy, there is so much there ! Son of a farming family ? I bet he hardly ever laid a hand to the plough, sensitive little soul. Goes from nothing, to Evangelical, to Traddy Catholic. And spends 9 years training. 9 years ! What took so long ? Well, I think I can guess. There will have been question marks about his suitability all along the way, moving from one seminary to another. What gets me is that with so many of these guys, the seminary usually picks up something that is out of kilter about the seminarian, and the bishop ignores it, moves the guy somewhere else, does a bit of delaying, but then ordains a guy over whom there have been consistent question marks about suitability. Why ? This guy Littleton, JLP, Hilton….. and so many more. Do bishops not realise, these are damaged goods and will only cause trouble ? We see the evidence on this blog.

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Rumour has it the Rector of Wonersh boycotted his ordination, the Vice Rector took his place but did not present him as worthy tp the Archbishop.
Rumour has it the Rector of Wonersh actively petitioned the Archbishop not to ordain him to the priesthood.

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The Lord Peter had other “ideas”. Diverting wine bibbers out of politics into churches isn’t bright though. Likes reading romances how very Richelieu and Mazarin (and Berulle) of him.

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Fr Chris could be a Viper. He has been involved with the Westminster Lourdes pilgrimage for a few years. Likes the late night bar scene when in Lourdes. Life and soul of the party is our Father Chris. Big friend of the other ex Anglican Montgomery in Lourdes. He’s an ex Anglican and not to be crossed despite his serene appearance. Appointed Vocations Director to Westminster. Likes Youtube lately and likes the young twinks often found pulling wheelchairs to the grotto. It would make you sick.

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6.26: And your comment makes me sick. You sound like an auld biddy watching everyone’s moves and life. Probably a lace curtainer in your village….a gossiper, altar rails every day type with a mantilla and think it’s fine to bitch about everyone that ‘s not perfect like you, Get a grip you fool…..

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7.23pm. Oh dear, have I touched raw nerves to warrant that old number from guilty clergy and the lace curtains etc. So obvious its like shining the light under your bushel. #Spooked

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@6.26pm I wondered when we would hear of the infamous Monti’s drunken antics in Lourdes again or drunken antics full stop? The Anglican porker strikes again and obviously remains a liability.

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Note the lace trimmed alb worn by Charles Hawtrey. Josh Hilton also worth something similar at his ordination. Could this preference against the canons of good taste especially when worn incongruously with a Gothic chasuble be indicative of dysfunction elsewhere? What else do we know about Charles and his pedigree?

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6.32
Well spotted.
And yet this priest has worn Roman vestments in other vids, so why the sartorial incongruity in this one?
Is he attempting to straddle two ecclesial worlds here?
Or are the Roman vestments at the dry cleaners?😕

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The one thing certain from today’s comments is that the clergy are a bunch of bitchy, touchy, jealous old Queens who are delighted to have this blog to settle old scores.

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I have said this many times before and I will say it again, the former Anglican clergy, single or married (mostly single) will prove the ruination of the English RC Church. The Scots will not even touch them and that is to their credit.

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It’s a case of fact not bashing anyone. Stop turning this about you MC. The more you drink the more you assume everyone is out to get you. Pat shouldn’t encourage you in this because this subject will suddenly dry up from further comment like others in the psst. This is classic behaviour from you – drunkenly gatecrash an important topic being discussed. If you let this happen Pat I will not be voulnteering anymore info or names. Your choice!

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8.28: And we, Magna, have enough of your sectarian hatred of priests and the Catholic Church, you morally bankrupt fool. What a crappy piece you are…

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8.28: Magna, before you hop 8ff to sleep tonight, sober or madly drunk, look into the mirror. And as you do, reflect in the face you see: ugly or good, attractive or off putting, God-like or Devilish? If you are really honest, you may decide abiut praying for a “true gospel metanoia”, that your world might finally open itself up to meaningful connections that nurture your inner spirit, that help you refind your human decency. Otherwise you’ll have a kairos moment when it’s too late for you!! But, try not to crack the mirror.

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Anglicans who go RC aren’t “prods” (in that sense), you ha’porth wit no credit to your suddenly admitted province. Good 8.54, please veer round this sprawler, we are agog.

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Many closets in Alice Hall need to be opened Pat. What skeletons has Josh Hilton left there. I heard recently another doll John O Leary has joined the place. Elsies little pet piddle is now vice rector and dean. Pure filth

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@8.21pm I never heard that John O’Leary had joined Alice Hall. Oh my! The famous quote about John, known by so many Westminster clergy, was attributed to George Stack. George (now in Cardiff) and known as the ‘Prince of Darkness’ when in Westminster was quoted as saying, “Our John was known as Fr John by day but John Travolta by night”. Our John liked clubbing you see. Fancy sending him to the flesh pots of Chelsea and the Kings Road and Alice Hall. Many were sent there for that reason to test them and many failed.

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What if those who were with him at Oscott spoke up? How much would be out?
They are all covering for each other. Seminaries are just creating a web of sex that they can use once they’re all ordained.

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Pat, from the photo of that wedding, the presbytery seems quite spacious. Under the High Court judgement, are you financially responsible for its maintenance? Or is it (as I suspect) Down and Connor?

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That’s great!😄

Hope you report every leaking tap, and every squeaky hinge. (Noel will only spend the cash on expensive interior redecoration. Better to remove the temptation from him…for his own good, like. 😅)

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Actually over the years I have looked after mist things. I am not ungrateful to have a roof over my head. But since the court agreement they must do all substantial work.

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8.25: Mags, since you have an on/off relationship with your master, Pat, and considering he is the most compassionate and reasonable one and facilitates and tolerates your weird, mad, crazy moods, do you ever financially support Pat, personally, for his ministry which you so awesomely admire? Just wondering how sincere your support really is!!!! Non-existent, I suspect.

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8.56

You coy but loveable and utter berk! 😄

Since you believe what you suspect, then your question to me really wasn’t a question, was it?😕

Can you figure out that one?

I’ll give you a decade or two.

Meantime, keep the faith. 😄

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MC destroys this blog. I was enjoying the thread all evening man and he just butts in. The whole things gone now. I was going to contribute a few things to that Anglican debate but you know what I can’t be bothered now.

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9.11 you had hopes to be appointed faculty of RMS Dundalk (convenient cross border commute) and EVEN THEY threw you out. Magner Carter = romanist.
9.07 it worries me a lot who it is trying to intimidate you and how.

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Alf @9.22pm. Thanks for your support. Next time a pint of bitter is on me. Love to Aud and Reet and not forgetting Mavis in the Kabin. Her hubby Derek complained we had missec her out. Cheers Alf.

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8.43
A pint of bitter is on whom? 😄
Where and when?😕
Never mind the ‘how’. 😑
I’ll determine that. 😎

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@8.54pm I can’t undetstand why you would volunteer any info to Pat with Pat allowing MC to control this blog. Who in their right mind would allow that? I don’t blame you from witholding info.

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