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96 YEAR OLD PRIEST JAILED FOR SEX ABUSE.

This 96-year-old man ‘ruined many lives’ and used his position in society to cover up his secret… and he got away with it for decades

He was described in court as ‘a predatory paedophile’ who used his position as a Catholic priest to groom and subsequently abuse children for some 27 year

By Lynda Roughley and Helen Johnson Manchester Evening News 29 JUL 2020

Father John Kevin Murphy has been jailed again for child sex offences (Image: Lynda Roughley)

A 96-year-old former Catholic priest was jailed today for sexually abusing six boys more than 30 years ago.
All but one of Father John Kevin Murphy’s victims came forward to police after seeing media reports about him being imprisoned in 2017 for molesting other boys.

Liverpool Crown Court heard he had been ordained as a priest in 1962 and served in a number of parishes in Greater Manchester, Merseyside and Lancashire until he retired.  

He was described in court as ‘a predatory paedophile’ who used his position as a Catholic priest to groom and subsequently abuse children for some 27 years

The six victims, who were aged between eight and 16 at the times of the offences, were molested while he took them on swimming lessons and also while visiting the homes of their devout Catholic parents.

Some felt unable to speak out because they knew it would devastate their parents.

One victim, who broke down while reading his impact statement, told the judge how he has a deep-seated anger towards his parents because “their devotion to their religion blinded them in the face of a monster using his job as a priest to abuse me and other children.”


Frail Murphy, who sat in the dock wearing a face mask and with his head bowed throughout the hour and a half long hearing, was jailed for five years.
Murphy, of Hillside Crescent, Horwich, Bolton, had pleaded guilty to 32 offences involving indecent assault and indecency.
Judge Anil Murray, who had jailed him for three years in December 2017 for the previous offences, told the defendant today, “Your offending has had a devastating impact on your victims for decades and they are still really seriously affected by what you did.”

He said examples of this included loss of confidence, nightmares, loss of faith in the Catholic church and feelings of shame.

“It is no exaggeration to say you ruined many lives.”

The judge said: “You were a priest at the time and you used your position of standing in society to commit these offences and cover them up.
“Because of your position in the church you were greatly trusted and respected, possibly revered, and you abused that trust.”

He said that Murphy claimed in his pre-sentence report not being able to recall committing the offences or having an attraction to males.

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Judge Murray added: “You say you have no memory of these offences. I’m afraid I cannot accept that especially in the light of the evidence of a psychologist who said you do not present with any significant neurological impairment.


“I cannot therefore accept your expression of remorse as genuine.


“You were effectively living a lie and using your good character and standing in society to commit these offences and got away with it for so long.


Murphy, who formerly served in the Army and RAF, was given an extended licence for 12 months and ordered to sign the Sex Offenders Register for life.

Arthur Gibson, for the prosecution, had told the court that one of the victims involved in the earlier case appeared on television after Murphy was jailed and the interview and newspaper reports were seen by the others who then came forward.


By coincidence the sixth victim, who had “wrestled with the effect of the abuse throughout his life” had also decided to speak to the police.


The abuse of the victims, some of them altar boys, occurred at swimming baths in Liverpool and Leigh, on camping trips and at the homes of the victims in Liverpool, Whiston and Ashton-in-Makerfield.

One told how he had been horrified when years later Murphy helped at his mother’s funeral mass and he consequently felt unable to visit her grave for ten years.

Lee Bonner, defending, said: “He is deeply sorry for the pain, harm and distress which his past conduct has caused.”

He said that Murphy, formerly of Maghull, Merseyside, is frail and has various health problems including diabetes and a heart condition.

“Now as a very elderly man he will pay quite properly the price for his actions as a much younger man.”

He has had the prospect of a jail sentence hanging over him since January when he entered his guilty pleas and has been largely housebound and isolated in the intervening period.

PAT SAYS

What an awful story.

A 96 year old priest being sent to prison for the sexual abuse of at least 16 victims.

Our first thoughts, as always, must be with the victims / survivors.

We wish them whatever healing they can, with the help of God, and others they can achieve.

Sexual abuse affects different people differently – but it is ALWAYS a wound.

I was sexually abused by a young neighbour at the age of 6.

It certainly overshadowed the first part of my life.

But it was greatly helped and even transformed by the counselling and therapy I engaged in.

I have ministered to a lot of victims and survivors.

I have also ministered to a small number of abusers.

Working in this area can be a minefield.

177 replies on “96 YEAR OLD PRIEST JAILED FOR SEX ABUSE.”

Pb 11:29pm
No, it has to be Justice for all, if Bileen is casting aspersions on others he has to expect it back from those who have the dirt on him. What does his paintings have to do with it?

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The paintings are at the core of it all. It’s not a case of follow the money, but follow the paintings, and the four W’s Why, When, Who, and of course the most important W@¥%*.

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9.21: And Billeen better be very circumspect about his revelations….he will have a mightier fall as yet… All this crap he goes on with and he, the purest if all, thinks he’s a saint…time will tell….and tell strangely.

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9:17 am

You sound a right darlng in the know. Is there something to reveal about you….time will tell.

Living in a house of cards must be tough going.

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9.17: I wonder will Mulvihill the brave tell us his international connections with so many priests, one being the supposed holder of his paintings. He issues threats of all kinds and seems to have mingled, rather strangely with so many clerics all over the place, that his stories must be very salacious. Would he offer to share his prize winning slutty stories with us? Would be interesting now that he’s freed of the shackles of priesthood….come on, come on, come on Billeen…

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Some questions about the “art collection”
Firstly what was a priest doing with an art collection in the first place ?
Secondly why was such a large amount of money needed by said priest that he needed to pawn off his “art collection”
Thirdly did said priest have clear title to the art collection in the first place.
Fourthly how did priest B have sufficient surplus funds to loan said priest for his pawned off “art collection”

Answers to the any or all of these four questions in simple modern English would be appreciated.

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I wonder how many good priests knew of this paedophile/ephebophile’s offending, or suspected it. And I wonder how many of these good priests reported him to the police.

Don’t bother answering, because it’s a predictable SFA.

Good to know children can rely on good priests to help them in a crisis.

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Another ‘good’ priest who did so much good, and any still alive of his contemporaries will remarkably have no knowledge of this at all.

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The Joe Duffy show will be busy next week with people like Karen from Tallaght and Mary Ita from the Dalkey branch of the Legion of Mary giving out about da awful muslims being allowed ta pray in Dublin. ”awful carry on so it is Joe. what’s da world cummin ta, lord bless us and save us. would ya be able”

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Pat, very sorry to hear of your abuse, although I know you mentioned this before.

I had a neighbour who was sexually abused by a priest. She now lives in the States and comes home mostly in the summer to visit the family home. Her abuser was removed from ministry a number of years ago after an allegation was made by another woman – no charges were brought and he returned to ministry. However, he is now retired but attends every funeral and liturgical celebration in the parish. He rarely vests and just sits in the front seat of the church. My neighbour was home for her sisters funeral two years ago and low and behold didn’t he stroll up the isle in the entrance procession. She took a panic attack and had to leave the church. It was the beginning of her revealing what had happened to her as a child.

I believe there were other victims and I believe his abuse runs very deep. my neighbour has stated others were involved in her abuse and that these abusers were known to each other. I recently quizzed a family member about the priest and was told a number of stories that she herself had heard as a child.

I used to look up to this priest. He served in some very unique clerical positions and nowadays he comes across as this lovely ‘butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth’ kind of guy. ……little do we ever know!

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I know one priest who is now in his 80’s and chaplain to a school. He’s terrified of past pupils coming forward to report the physical and emotional abuse he lavished so horribly on them. Yet at the same time he’s a little cocky fecker.

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A good observation DD, which brings to mind just to realise how many more clergy are squirmingly waiting for the “knock on the door. ”
Bring it on
MMM

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Remarkable that this man got convicted. Obviously he didn’t have the support of the cheerleaders here who would have told the judge to focus on the good he did and how many children learned to swim at his hands.

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Well given what we now know about the safeguarding department in that particular area: and globally, no wonder he got away with it for so long.
Until now that is.
Eee, the thought of that filthy bastatd interfering with littleuns.
I hope the judges are now able to hand down more fitting sentences for all involved in abuse and the covering up of.
Covering up abuse is itself abuse; they go hand in hand, you see.
It goes hand in hand that tougher sentences must accompany these heinous crimes.

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It’s been a struggle Pat managing the parish with the Covid regulations. But we seem to have been ok. I would never want to turn anyone away from the church. Just like the oratory with yourself I am sure.
Drinking tonight but limiting myself. Thought I’d be naughty and check the blog. But not too often as I might be led to drown the sorrows. I have always found the sorrows are pretty good swimmers. Cheers Pat.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEXKnHutOiw
We invite you to join us as we walk in the footsteps of the saints and martyrs –
— St Ambrose Barlow was incarcerated on several occasions when in 1631, as he ended an Easter Sunday Mass, the Protestant vicar of Eccles ( near Haydock ) and his followers, armed with sticks and shields, arrested him. He was dragged before a Magistrate before being incarcerated.
— After four months of detention, he was processed in Lancaster Castle before Sir Robert Heath, who had received orders from the those in charge to inflict the maximum punishment, as a deterrent to Lancashire’s numerous Catholics and their facilitators.

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Hi was a student at Scots College when it was in Valladolid. Amazing place. I left in 4th year and met the most amazing people there. The communal showers at the time were enjoyable.

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Lol Fr Jan Nowotnik, a lace queen of the archdiocese of Birmingham, had his ordination deferred for a year because he bawled out the rector of Valladolid.
He has bizarrely been made national ecumenical officer – a less suitable person obviously couldn’t be found.

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Father Buckley
instead of consistency pointing out peoples faults, maybe offer some joy and some hope to the followers of your blog. Anytime I blog on all I see is doom and gloom. No one is saying that the most horrendous crimes were committed and we all agree that justice must be served, but please do offer some shimmer of hope. A kind word or way forward would be helpful to your followers.

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Where is McCarrick and Why? Follow the Money! with Dr Taylor Marshall and George Neumayr

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Taylor Marshall – God love him – lives in a Dan Browne novel. He thinks he’s professor Langdon and there’s a conspiracy everywhere to be found. If he spent more time in prayer and charitable acts he’d be a better christian, rather than looking for scandal where there is none. tut

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Why are you on the blog if it is a sewer?

Could it be because you are a sewer rat 😁

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9 34: The psychological reality is that when any individual believes in their own invincibility or self righteousness, as Pat does, it is impossible for that person to recognise their own failings. They perceive everyone else as a threat and feel the need to be domineering, insulting, sneering and will do all in their power to humiliate and crush others. Pat us an expert crusher, even though he does some pastoral good!! There is something unpalatable and distasteful, when, as a Christian, you delight in the ignominious falling of others. The justice of civil law takes its course, as it should. In all cases of any kind of abuse we must stand with the victims/survivors and let the courts exact proper justice on the perpetrator. As Jesus says – Condemn (utterly and unequivocally) the sin but not the sinner. Civil courts deal with civil justice. A very difficult imperative but it is the call of JESUS.

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I was just going to bon this repetitive comment obviously coming from a cleric that does not like the corruption of him and his colleagues being brought into the open.

I have never felt invincible and the things that have happened show that I was often vulnerable.

I do not crush. I simply report on the crushing and clerical crushes.

If I delighted in the falling of others why would I minuster to prisoners, abusers and priests?

So Father wants us to forgive the priests abuse but love the priest abuser???

Abuse is not only a civil crime. It is a moral and religious crime.

But father wants us to love all priests including abusing priests.

????

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11.57, when the Press reports the ‘ignominious failings of others’ are they, too, doing a disservice?

Do you not know, priest, that everything in the dark will one day be brought into the light. And that light will leave nothing in the shadows, since there will be no shadows.

Better the light of this blog than the blinding light of God’s scrutiny. At least here, there is opportunity for repentance, for conversion.

In that other light? Who knows?

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6:01 pm
The C.I.A. created the notion of conspiracy theory to discredit those who questioned covert operations. How do you know what he says is not true. You don’t know.
Are you his confessor? How dare you comment on the man’s prayer life and spiritual life.

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1.36, yes, even abusing priests, because Jesus loves them regardless. Were he to fail to do so, in those instances, those moments of love’s absence, he could not have inspired John, in the New Testament, to describe him as ‘love’.

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“Shimmer” of hope? There’s not even a ‘sliver’ to offer, …. brother!
“No one is saying that the most horrendous crimes were committed .” Wrong brother! The court that convicted this oul bar steward certainly said so!
But since you use the word “most” maybe you know of even more vile stuff?
Join the Real World, ……brother!

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2.07, ‘corrupt, and riddled with corruption.’

Dr David Starkey on the Roman Catholic Church

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11:57 am
Get it into your head: this is NOT simply about failings or falling! This is about CRIME!
Protecting children is paramount.
Exposing abuse,corruption, and crime, is crucial to the welfare of vulnerable individuals, families, the Christian Community and Society as a whole.
Would Jesus Christ keep His mouth shut at the depth of abuse,corruption and criminality currently in the Catholic Church? Its systemic corruption!

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10:07 pm
The love of Jesus is not questioned The blind denial of humans who ignore the words of Jesus regarding harming little ones is a separate matter. Don’t muddle the two.

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11.12: In your case Buckley, the sword of satan….You ain’t no prophet or saint but you have much hatred, vindictiveness and vengeance in your small heart. You facilitate hatred against Catholic clerics. An unsavoury character.

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@1:06 am

Br. Charles, this blog is not for the purposes of pointing out peoples faults, but rather highlighting abuse, corruption and criminality in the Catholic Church.

Our help is in the name of the Lord who made heaven and earth.(Psalm 124:8)
(And our hope and way forward)

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Lol the record of the church’s abuse is only starting. Remember abuse targets typically come forward 20+ years after being abused. The cases currently being covered up will be revealed after 2040, the church’s treatment of the ‘missions’ and its financial crimes have barely started to be revealed.
Even if you are one of the Cathbots who keep trying to shut down Bishop Buckley, this sorry circus of torture and crime is actually driven by the church’s behaviour and won’t be ending any time soon.

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Thank you Anon@11:49: my thoughts too.
And Anon@10:47: kindly consider this comment as a very appropriate riposte to your vacuous 10:47 opinion. And consider the facts, …..if your wilful blindness allows objective thinking 🤔

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Pat, I know that you were close to John Charles. Did you know that his mother died shortly after he was born, and when his father remarried John Charles was led to believe that his step-mother was his birth mother. He only found out the truth when he was a teenager. I think that’s a bit cruel.

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These bastards are wicked beyond belief. Thank the Lord walls of silence are being more and more smashed down. Obliterated even.
Bishop Pat, you have done so much good in your ministry and continue to do so, we are all very proud of your committment and your wiling to address the issues so valiently.
God bless you x

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@ 11:47am
I find your comment highlighly repugnant, and the fact you seem to believe you have foreknowledge of who is, is not, destined for heavenly bliss or damnation clearly identifies you as, ‘one of them’ – a member of Babylon.
Now get down to confession, light a candle and take hold of your rosary and say a few decades.
Take up thy cross in thy hand and repent, for the hour is at hand.
Amen

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11.47, pray for his soul, then. He is in urgent need of prayer.
How many souls are in Hell because too few, if any, were chatitable enough to sacrifice their time to pray for them?
Our judgement will be more severe over those we thought too odious to pray for.

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That is an unpleasant slur. I think their anxieties are justified. I have had experience of living next door to these set ups and it’s no picnic.

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The parking problems will soon be solved, the Vianney Place 24 hour covered parking will be up and running in time for Dora Bryan to switch on the Illuminations.

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12:45

Thanks Polly I’m grand and always cheerful, now get back to your studies . You don’t want to be known as the eternal student, not at your age try to get gainful employment you’ve mooched long enough, and stay off the gargle.

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1:59 pm
Bella, who do you say is polly?
I’m a professional. I’m doing higher studies in an area of interest, open to lifelong learn and rarely gargle. You don’t sound very cheerful. Are you not saved? Spread the joy, Bella.

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4:51pm
I am so glad you liked my comment it was meant as a warning to such as you. I don’t have to go to confession I was their this morning and unlike you I am in the State of Grace. I have lit a candle and said a decade for you. I advise you to do the same, I would not like you to die roarin and end up beside him.

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It’s one of the mysteries of life that horrible nonces like him live to a very old age and good people die young with horrible deaths, even in childhood. It’s no wonder people turn athiest.

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1.36: No Pat, I don’t want anyone to to overlook any abuser. I condemn all abusers, priests especially, and have done so since the first revelation of such heinous crimes, which deserve the full rigour of civil law. I have spoken to some survivors: I know two of them very personally. I support them in whatever way possible. When you and I, Pat, as followers of Christ know of abuse, we have stringent guidelines to follow. We know what to do. We hope too that perpetrators will be brought to justice for their crime. Ultimately my role is not to definitively consign any person to a black hell. I believe in God’s justice above all. When the civil courts adjudicate, I accept that judgment. I focus primarily on the survivors. I do not equivocate on moral or civil crime or wrongdoing. I have prayed for the victims/survivors of this 96 year old ex-priest. His crimes were horrendous. My task is not to further crush him into the ground. His heinous crimes did that for him and he is paying a price for such horrible crimes. I pray for all victims and I am deeply ashamed of any abuse committed by a priest. Pat, I commend you for your relentless pursuit in highlighting wrongdoing and abuse of any kind. That is very necessary but you are not GOD in dispensing his justice. Yes, Jesus called out and named the sinfulness and caring of others but he also advised being merciful and forgiving. Did he not? I try to take Christ as the exemplar of living. Not easy.

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I am not condemning Fr Murphy.

I am highlighting the case he was involved in.

If Fr Murphy needed help tomorrow I would help him – while being honest with him and providing appropriate help.

Have you ministered to paedophiles.

I have.

I have even kept them, under supervision in my home.

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2.27: I haven’t.ministered to paedophiles but had reason to confront three such people for the welfare of victims. Two subsequently faced the courts, the other died. Not a pleasant confrontation, as one was a neighbour who abused me. Probably like you I would be totally honest with an abuser re: the serious moral and spiritual nature of the evil act.

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I have .ministered to abusers and gave them a roof over their head when they left prison and before I found them a safe place to live.

A man who is willing to minister to abusers and let them sleep under his roof is not a “crusher” as you said I was.

I am much more interested in exposing the corrupt RCC than any particular member of it, whether clerical or lay.

In my 36 years in Larne I have given bed and lodging to a dozen priests in various kinds of trouble.

I am not, unlike others I will not name, a priest hater.

If 96 year old Fr Murphy had no where to live or die I would house him here with me, in a heart beat.

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12:59 pm

Who crushed or consigned any person to a black hell! A consequence of Fr. Murphys criminal acts is the public humiliation, ignominy and disgrace he BROUGHT ON HIMSELF, his family, colleagues in the Diocese, his Bishop, colleagues in the Catholic Priesthood and Catholic community. Such is life in the modern world with hi-tech communications.

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2.47, I am not a hater of human beings, especially vulnerable ones, regardless of their state in life.

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12.47, you are a holy man.

But like myriads other such men, you nurse a moral blind spot: the inability to see life from any vantage point, but your own.

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MMM, you have a talent for composition. Could you compose a little ditty before day’s end?It’s title?
Where Have All The Good Priests Gone (Were they ever here?)
The fact that no good priest 😅 spoke out against the sexual abuses by the aged parasitical perververt above (he was a parasite in more ways than one) should convince even the most fanatical priest groupie that the very idea of good priests belongs in the literary category called ‘Mythology’.

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Just a suggestion, MMM. You might include something along the lines of turning God into a lucrative business, for the priests.

And about selling Masses to the masses when Jesus didn’t charge even one denarius for the first and only Mass, the Last Supper.

Salvation was free to all, but the priests put a hefty financial price on it.

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Thanks for the suggestion A@12:30 & 1:06: I’ve just seen it, and will certainly oblige, on today’s post…….just to annoy @6:15 & 8:28.
Working on it!
MMM

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Did ye see the face of Coddle Martin at the Moslem shindig in Croker? Face was tripping him – more misery guts than usual – the chins were really low hanging. Nearly as bad looking as he was in the back of the pope mobile during the WMOF debacle two year ago. Big sour puss. Must have been all the lunatics shouting at his car when he arrived. He wouldn’t be used to that.

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1.42: I wonder sometimes why we feel the need to judge cruelly the demeanour 8f others. I saw a photo 9f our government.min8sters yesterday asvtheu posed for an end of term photo and I thought they looked awful and whacked out. Understandably so considering the shambles if many decisions 9f the pastb4 weeks. Would I be inspired by their expressions? No. But I would not be so unkind as to make nasty, sneering comments about them. There is a merciless tendency today to have a go at all in the public sphere and I think we can be very.mean, unkind and unfair. Archbishop Martin, while I am critical of him, does not deserve the opprobrium dished out to him. Criticism, yes, but not humiliating mockery.

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2:10pm och now luv you just need to lighten up a wee bit. A wee chill pill and a bottle of gin with a straw and sure you’ll be just grand 😘

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At 2:10pm
“But not humiliating mockery.”
Is this reserved only for victims of abuse and their powerless families?
I remember a registered social worker actively and persistently preventing a venerable adult from reporting his abuse to the local Police. She seemed to have slot of power, and unbelievable amount of power indeed.
To add salt to very painful and open wounds, and compound the damage, she also wrote on a website, “[**Victim**] is making false and unsubstantiated accusations… [**Victim**] has never been prevented from making his allegations to the Police; however he has signally failed to do so.”
— Was this a passive act? Or was this a cruel and calculated act of wickedness intended to cause more suffering; and to exhert her power over victims of abuse and to send out a message to other victims who may be suffering in silence?

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Careful, now. MMM goes ballistic if you criticise social workers; tore the face off me one time when I had the cheek to mention Ulster-born Sharon Shoesmith and Baby P.

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@7:19pm think I read the article, which I assume was copied and pasted, on a facebook page in May. My sincere sympathies to you and your family and prayers for healing which I hope may be furthered by your engaging with this blog and any other help you may be getting but vindication and the shaming of those who would bring false witness would speed up the process, I’m sure, however if it takes until the ultimate encounter for the guilty to confront their wrongdoing, then perhaps so be it, they can run but they cannot hide! Is it you that likes to quote psalms? What’s that one…. where can i hide from your presence? If i go to the heights you are there, if I go to the depths you are there… etc… God Bless.

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Just heard the Old Mass, received Communion on the tongue for the First Saturday then a full English a la Blackpool B and B with two sausages and four bacon, Happy Eid!

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I know, normally I wash my hands in bleach and then I walk in a joyful procession and make a throne with my hand to receive the bread he gave us now broken, I think we are all a little bit like broken bread we are all Eucharist and the work of human hands but we all share a brokenness.

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Yeah the one that used to be Woolworths in Blackpool round the corner from the Central Mosque where St Cuthbert’s used to stand

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Oooh, a lovely Blackpool breaky with a pot of tea. Can’t beat it! A walk by the pier and a couple of games of bingo. Heaven! 😃
(Saying that, only a few places you can play bingo there now ☹️).
I miss them plastic bingo slat things where you could sit on a stool with a G&T and it was full of old ladies, felt really homely and lively lol. It’s not the same now.
Every so often me and my friend go stay in Blackpool for a few days.
We like booking when it’s Winter and nice and quiet, the rooms are cheaper then and you can pick one facing the sea.

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the gay world is a very dangerous world. dangerous for ones mental health, reputation and moral character. All of the gays know each other. they know each others personal lives though connections on social media. They will know who each other has slept with, they will have seen each others explicit pictures and videos. Many are involved in sex rings.

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@ 3:47pm
Oh we see you trained at Gaynooth then?
It must have been awful for you. You poor, dear.
Our hearts bleed.
It sound as though you have a wealth of experience. Purely from observation, of course, dear.

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5.36: An irrelevant and superfluous question..This poster simply states facts about the gay underworld.

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3:47, Amen to that. You only have to look at facebook to see that a lot fo gay men have over 1000 gay friends, and its unlikely they even know half of these people. yet they share and overshare their person information with them. This is indeed dangerous. I Knew a gay lad in Maynooth, David was his name. He was a young lay student, but his social media was full of gay people from all over the UK and various parts of Ireland.

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Funny you should say that regarding facebook and connections. I was browsing facebook one might, and happened to be on a gay friends page when I could see a lot of his friends were gay guys (you can spot them a mile off. 101 pictures of them topless). Anyways, I went rooting through some peoples pages and I discovered that there are deep connections between gay people in various parts of the UK, who could not all have possibly met each other. This is how dangerous the gay scene is. It’s akin to a cult organisation. I could never be part of that. I like to live a quiet drama free life.

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The RCC knows well what the gay underworld is and how it operates, hence any strong desire to attract homosexual men. They fear these men may have been tarnished with association of the ‘gay culture’. Be under no illusion, the gays may have over 1000 friends and followers on social media platforms, but they are anything but friends. People of any orientation who boast about followers do so out of some need for affirmation. They need to be popular and be seen to be popular. In reality, when push comes to shove, they have no friends nor faithful followers. In the end, they know deep down they have nobody but themselves.
I applaud the Catholic Church for wishing to detract gay men from entering the priesthood. As a gay man, I have been tainted by the gay underworld, although I can count how may sexual partners I have had on one hand minus my thumb. No, this ‘gay underworld’ is indeed a very dangerous place, a place where sex is more important than real and meaningful relationships and friendships. I would be aware of gay couples who like to invite a third or more into their bedroom, of drugs, visits to saunas, endless Grindr hook-ups and the sharing of visual media.

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Is it not in our brokenness that we realise we are not like unto gods? Is it is not our human frailties and weaknesses which remind us that we are all human–Children of God–one and alike? A family?
Love and compassion is what binds us together into one, without love and compassion we become selfish and broken.

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I totally agree.

But if course Truth, Justice and Integrity are part of compassion too.

Compassion is often a tender things.

But sometimes Compassion is strong and challenging.

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Very true words, Your Grace.
Compassion sometimes requires challenge. And challenge often demands for compassion.
One could say they go hand-in-hand even.

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Paddy King 12.42
All purchased by me at The Forge Gallery Collon, Co. Louth over quite a number of years, except for The Arthur Boyd Print of value now purchased on Chapel St. Melbourne……original provenance easily proven.
I shall not be commenting further on the moral vacuum personages who anonymously contribute here. Your name would add a little integrity but like most who post here, you are spineless and a coward……typical clergy.

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Not word word that is without platinum sincerity……however anyone might perceive or interpret them.
Sipe who has been referenced in these days was cut out when his profiling of the clergy was building up and he was getting at the truth of a great lie. They then ‘privatised’ the skills of his that the bishops were using: they opened their own facilities! The closing of the St. John of God facility in this country was for the same reason….the files had to be closed and hidden/destroyed( I do not know)…they told the story of the years….no learning curve! Well documented….

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4.36: Courage my arse! This Billy Jack has to be the most obnoxiously ungrateful priest ever…all his “art wealth” of which he boasts and his exotic holidays, were paid for by a Church salary given to him. In othervwirds – by parishioners who were kind. He is now a spiteful, vindictive ex!!

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I suppose one in four is actually the best we can expect. Mind you Im surprised we even got that far. and the name was in the first post

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4.27: Nasty Billeen, all of us who comment are not clerics. You didn’t inspire all your previous parishioners who were very kind to you – a kindness which enabled youto purchase some very notable pieces of art and take many holidays in far away places. You are a most ungrateful ex cleric. And very bitter and disgruntled. How many priceless antiques did you purchase on your priests salary? I woukd love to have had your privileges…You seem to have no moral integrity in boasting about your great collections bought out of PARISHIONER’S FINANCIAL GENEROSITY .. Hypocrite. Hypocrite. Courage – always easy when you leave the church!

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I was employed by the Irish State at that time…. public information. In a Community School… do not vent your drivel at me.

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11.05
Its called free association, its a human right and enshrined in the laws of many countries. As part of the RCC…you probably have no appreciation of such things……you are above them….

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BLACKPOOL UPDATE – FR DANIEL ETIENNE
Hi +Pat – here we go. In charge for 4 days and already chopped a Mass off with no consultation with Parishioners. Rat bag.
MASSES
Given the departure of Fr Kopec, the few numbers attending the Saturday evening Mass at St Cuthbert’s and that parishioners are encouraged to come to any of the weekend and weekday Masses (as the Sunday dispensation remains suspended) – including a new and extra Thursday 7.00pm Mass at St Cuthbert’s beginning this week – the Saturday 6.00pm Mass at St Cuthbert’s will now cease as from next weekend (8th August). This decision has been made after careful consultation with Bishop Swarbrick and is made with his full backing.

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It’s a disgrace you must follow through and not set foot in his churches ever again and encourage others, have you thought about going on hunger strike ? Something needs to be done the 1960s headgear and the black roman vestments have got to be set packing , when will these priests ever learn the people are the church that’s what Vatican Two said and the people have spoken we want white gothic vestments at celebrations of life, we want a folk group singing Colours of Day and the Israeli Mass, we want Masses at the time’s they have always been since the 1980s and we want a cheery good morning, is that too much to ask ?Take a stand do a demonstration outside the World of Dr Who exhibition look how it’s worked for Black Lives Matter

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7:28pm
That might be what you want, but it is not what a lot of others want. We don’ t want a cheery good morning from some Fr. Tom Dick or Harry we are attending The Holy Mass not a social club. When a loved one dies we are mourning their death not a celebration of their life that sickening non Catholic phrase that is used all the time now. We should be praying for their eternal rest.

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No ones interested in Blackpool it’s a dump and the parish moaners seem to think there’s an endless supply of priests for the Bishop to pick from like Miss World at the Winter Gardens, if they were in Salford diocese they would soon know about church closures, John Arnold does consultancy work for the ABC cinema chain on how to liquidate asserts into car parks

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In the parish newsletter Fr Etienne thanks the many parishoners who have wished him well on his appointment.

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“May I thank those many parishioners who have kindly
offered me their congratulations, best wishes and support on my recent appointment as Parochial
Administrator (CIC c. 539) of both our parishes” .

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2.47: Pat, that approach is very commendable and virtuous, yet when the Bishops have given help and support to priest abusers, you have condemned them viciously. If AB Martin did that, you’d be outside his home protesting…I admire what you do but there’s an inherent contradiction in your approach, surely?

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8:13 pm
Can a funeral not be both a celebration/ acknowledgment of life as well as relatives grieving the death of a loved one. Why either/ or?

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It’s usually either/or, mostly a canonisation of the recently deceased. Most CINOs (Catholics in name only) are universalists.

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In my memory all Catholic funerals were violet or black vestments, the priest did everything assisted by the altar boys and the mourners wore black and put Mass cards on the coffin. After the funeral there would be a reception and conversation about the deceased, later a memorial card would be sent in the post. It was EastEnders that changed Catholic funerals forever, the priests had started to shift to white vestments in the mid eighties but there wasn’t any form of eulogy from the family but after seeing funerals in soaps that’s what became the expectation, so flowers in the shape of names, photos on orders of service, object d’art associated with the deceased on top of the coffin, off colour stories from the lectern, a young child reading a poem etc, just look at the funeral of Cilla Black as a point of reference it bore no resemblance to a requiem mass. Now this can only have happened because the majority of priests have encouraged it of course now some of them think it’s too secular but it’s too late to put that genie back in the bottle. I was at a Catholic funeral and the favourite singer of the deceased ( a woman in her forties)was featured so the coffin came in to a blasted out recording of Like A Virgin ! Afterwards the priest thought that had gone too far but he didn’t want to say anything. I’ve been funerals where the very liberal priest kept saying ‘He’s up there looking down at us now’ about five times , did he think it was a comfort to think heaven is in the sky?Dont worry he had a white zip up alb and a white stole and he pocketed several hundred pounds for the performance, the music included Bring him home from Les Mis and Ave Maria a total end of the pier show

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9:14pm
Not to me we can celebrate their life while they are still with us after death we mourn and pray for them. That’s why, where and when that horrible phrase started to be used I don’t know.

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The “celebration of the life of” nonsense came from the Anglicans and their memorial services. You even hear people talking about Memorial Masses nowadays.

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Fr Etienne, the Parochial Administrator of the improving St John Vianney & St Monica and St Cuthbert parishes in Blackpool makes clear in the latest newsletter that he has the support of the Bishop of Lancaster in the months and years ahead. Fr Etienne writes:
“As I mentioned to the Bishop when we met this earlier this week, I do look forward to working closely with him, each of you and with Fr Sullivan to take our parishes forward in the months and years ahead.”
http://stjohnvianneyblackpool.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020.08.02.pdf

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He is a total rat bag. You’d have thought that he would have left things for a while and kept a low profile. As my Scottish friends would say “he needs a good kick in the baws”.

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Interesting name Eileen. Sounds very Plastic Paddyesque. No doubt in-between your online rants you are a mad yoke singing “Come on Eileen” as you engage in the Irish disease and drink yourself silly.
Come on, Eileen
Come on, Eileen
Poor old Johnny Ray
Sounded sad upon the radio
But he moved a million hearts in mono
Our mothers cried, sang along, who’d blame them
You’re grown (so grown up)
So grown (so grown up)
Now I must say more than ever
(Come on, Eileen)
Too ra loo ra too ra loo rye aye
And we can sing just like our fathers
Come on, Eileen, oh I swear (what he means)
At this moment, you mean everything
You in that dress, my thoughts I confess
Verge on dirty
Ah, come on, Eileen
Come on, Eileen
These people ’round here
Were beaten down, eyes sunk in smoke-dried face
They’re resigned to what their fate is
But not us (no, never), no, not us (no, never)
We are far to young and clever
(Remember)
Too ra loo ra too ra loo rye aye
And you’ll hum this tune forever…

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9:39 pm
I was at a Mass during lent, last year, where the priest, a former spiritual director in a seminary, told the congregation, he tries to go to confession at least once a year.
He also regularly tells his congregation, we are all going to heaven.

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10:29pm
Thanks for telling me that I knew it was not Catholic. I know we have all those ejits spouting it all the time and telling us we’re all going to heaven instead of reminding people that ‘it is holy and wholesome to pray for the dead’ that they may be released from their sins. We always had a Requiem Mass now it’s just a Funeral Mass!

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Supervalue here in Maynooth do lovely microwave dinners, Turkey and ham being one, with mashed potatoes and stuffing. They also do cabbage and bacon, beef, and lasagne.

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I do like a bit of Lasagne, reminds me of watching the auld goat Milivhill chase after Italian students. He was always into the art, and other things, you couldn’t make it up Pat.

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He’s not the oldest to be imprisoned. A guy in England went to prison at 101 a few years ago. Got something like 7 years. Probably dead now. His victims recognised him when his 100th birthday was in the local paper, and pursued the case. I do wonder if it really is worth it ? These old guys cost a huge amount to look after in prison. Probably would be better if the victims had the grace to get the prosecution but then ask for mercy for the old guy – shit though he might be. But at the moment, victimhood trumps everything else. Once a victim, always a victim. You can dine out on it. Real victims retain dignity, calm, and keep quiet, only pursuing things with the police. Not going on about how hurt they are. Get over it, for God’s sake. There are more important things in life than YOU !

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7.38: Undoubtedly too Mr. Billeen, you got paid as a parish chaplain??? You subsequently were appointed full time to parishes where much was given to you. The fact that you got paid by Dept of Education is no excuse for extravagance as a priest. You are a self serving hypocrite. Your sense of entitlement as a priest was counter to the gospel of Christ which you preached and advised others to live by while you collected art and enjoyed exotic far away places. It’s your life but don’t preach MORALITY to the rest of us.

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9.23: Not at all. Billen just needs to be reminded of his hypocrisy as he has a habit of judging others. Who said I am a priest? Many non clerics comment on thid blog.

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ETIENNE is going nowhere. The Bishop has told him just this week that there will be a reorganisation in the Diocese soon and he will be made PP in Blackpool.The Bishop has ignored all the complaint letters from Parishioners and concerns raised by clergy. The Bishop is a fool. I wonder why he is latching on to this young man?

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