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POPE BADLY WRONG ON CHINA.

7 AUGUST 2020, THE TABLET

by James Roberts

A leading voice in Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW) and the founder of Hong Kong Watch says Pope Francis has been “badly wrong” in his handling of China.

Benedict Rogers, a Catholic convert and CSW’s East Asia team leader, writing in Foreign Policy magazine, cites public figures such as Marie van der Zyl, president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, who last month wrote a letter to the Chinese ambassador in London comparing the situation of Uighur Muslims in China to the Holocaust.

She pointed to similarities between what is reportedly happening to the Uighurs and what happened in Nazi Germany: “People being forcibly loaded on to trains; beards of religious men being trimmed; women being sterilised; and the grim spectre of concentration camps.”

Mr Rogers writes: “Van der Zyl is just one of many faith leaders to speak out against the atrocities being committed in Xinjiang. But one voice has been strangely absent – that of Pope Francis, ordinarily a powerful advocate for the oppressed. His silence speaks to the dangers of the deal made with China by the Vatican – and demands that others in the church speak out.

“Before van der Zyl’s letter, there was the decision by Jewish News to highlight the discovery of 13 metric tons of Uighur hair – with “Nazi resonance” – on the front page of the newspaper.”

The letter was followed by a Twitter thread by the widely respected former Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, who wrote: “As a Jew, knowing our history, the sight of people being shaven headed, lined up, boarded onto trains, and sent to concentration camps is particularly harrowing. That people in the 21st century are being murdered, terrorised, victimised, intimidated and robbed of their liberties because of the way they worship God is a moral outrage, a political scandal and a desecration of faith itself.”

Mr Rogers notes that so far, no major Muslim authority has come out in condemnation of the Uighurs’ plight, nor has Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury. However, Mr Rogers says: “It is Francis’s silence that shocks me most. Almost every Sunday, as he prays the Angelus, he rightly references some injustice somewhere in the world. He has spoken often in the past not only of the persecution of Christians around the world but of the plight of the Rohingyas in Myanmar; the conflicts in Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, and Nigeria; and religious freedom for all.”

In his article, Mr Rogers linked Pope Francis’ silence on China to the 2018 agreement between the Vatican and Beijing on the appointment of bishops, the renewal of which is currently being negotiated.

Rogers calls for Archbishop Welby and Pope Francis “to wake up, review their position, cross the Rubicon, and say enough is enough.”

Meanwhile Bitter Winter magazine reported on 30 July that the Chinese Communist Party is offering monetary rewards to those who report the presence of home churches in their communities. Rewards in the “incentive” programme have swelled to up to 100,000 renminbi (£11,000), the magazine said.

A pope dedicated to human rights has said nothing on China, thanks to a secret deal with Beijing.

PAT SAYS

Once again we see the silence of the.pope and Vatican in the face of a 21st century holocaust.

Francis’s silence is morally evil.

It is a mass SIN OF OMMISSION on his part.

But you see the Vatican is not, fundamentally of God.

It is a vastly rich multi national company that wants to”trade” in China and is receiving major financial pay backs from China.

The Vatican does not care about the loss of a hundred lives here or a thousand lives there – especially when they are not paying RCs.

The Vatican stood by and allowed 6 million jews die from 1939 to 1945.

They will turn a blind eye to Chinese atrocities to further their own end in China.

They are no better than the atheistic Chinese government.
 
 
 
 
 

86 replies on “POPE BADLY WRONG ON CHINA.”

Pope Francis has big fat chin. He’s an oily Latino and should never have been elected as Pope. Get the fat oily Latino out and deport him to Argentina.

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Pat, the latest newsletter from Fr Etienne in Blackpool has the following warning, with perhaps the blog in mind.
“Parishioners are reminded to be vigilant and discerning re: printed and online materials claiming to be ‘Catholic’.”

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This is Pietro Parolin’s responsibility. He’s the Secretary of State. Bergoglio should concentrate on spiritual leadership and allow his prime minister to make the political calls.

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10.14
You canNOT be serious. After the performances of predecessors like Angel Sodano, Pope Francis would be a fool to allow any current or future sec of state the freedom to romp around in that worldly office.

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Pat,
A blog on the free sheet ‘Alive’ is long overdue. Of interest is the identity of the editor(s). Secondly, the precise nature of the relationship between the free sheet and the Dominicans. Thirdly, the former editor.

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You have tried previously to drum up interest in your single issue obsession with Alive. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now. Stories have their own dynamic. They take off or they do not. You’re like the Fr Littleton stalker. Nobody cares, get over it.

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10.31: Dies the Alive Newsheet upset your moral sensitivities on all things Catholic? Pity about you, so called liberal….usually the most intolerant types!!

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the HOLY gOD is ANGRY that hus vickarn on the earth is being slapped down in his decisiobs about china we have to say yes to all the acts the VICAR does to china so the HOLY GID wont PUNISH tge world all over

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I know you’re all for free speech etc +Pat, but do we really have to endure this 10:48’s repetitive illiterate idiotic continual utterances?

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It is ridiculous for you to say that the Vatican stood by and let 6000.000 Jews die. Do you think for one moment that Hitler would have been swayed by anything The Church said of course not. It was not only Jews who were killed there was many Priests and Religious and others murdered too. What about Churchill and Roosevelt both in a much better position to do something and they did nothing. They were asked by the World Jewish Congress to bomb the the train lines to Auschwitz but did not do it, so put the blame where it belongs and stop blaming The Holy Church. It is so tiresome to hear the same old garbage from all the haters with their own agenda. I note you do not mention all the Jews that were sheltered by The Church all over Europe and were saved.

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5.37

Moving the goalposts suggests you know you’re going to lose the game. And you are.

Since when did the Vatican take a moral lead from ‘the Proddy churches’, as you put it?

This isn’t about what other churches did, or did not, do; it is about what more the Vatican could, but did not, do.

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Eva Braun 5:13pm
Oh no! he wouldn’t he had already made up his mind about the final solution and being the mad megalomaniac that he was nobody was going to sway him. You should know that Eva after all you married him, ya mad cow!

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11:17
Bella, try to differentiate between the Holy Church and the many corrupt, criminal and unholy clergy within the Church.

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9:19

Bella, many of the corrupt unholy clergy are also wholly criminals. Many have not faced justice, were protected by bishops, ruined lives and disgraced the Church.

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9:19pm
Polly what have I just told you you’re not differentiating, for those clergy who are guilty of any abuse must be punished by the Ecclesiastic Authorities and Civil Authorities nobody wants that more than me. But stop classing all the Clergy the same.

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10:40pm
Yes they too should be punished if they covered up any abuse or criminality. If you have any evidence report them to the Guards and their Superiors and let the Law deal with them. You might then cease to weary us constantly giving out about them.

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2.12: A good question…Yes, a handful of people still come seeking the sacrament of forgiveness. Strange indeed but Pat will undoubtedly always have thousands who arrive at his confessional. We are not fools, Patsy!!

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I dont have a Confessional. I hear occasional confessions from those who request it.

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I’ve had 2 bad dreams about you Father Buckley. I was visited by a deceased priest in my dream and he told me something about you and something about God. I truly believe that you are working for the devil. I pray for your soul. It is Torchered

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4.19
Don’t give us half a loaf. Give us the rest..the detail.

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The Lord speaks…
— Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:
“Who is this that obscures my plans
with words without knowledge?
Brace yourself like a man,
I will question you…
… and you shall answer me… ! …”
“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand…
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know… ! …
Who stretched a BT copper-line across it- here? … And a 30+ mile point-to-point microwave link with End-to-End Asymmetric ‘hopping’ algorithmic bespoke encryption?
On what were its footings set?
or who laid its cornerstone?
Who invented the Strowger stepping mechanical switch?
While the morning stars sang together; and all the angels shouted for joy!

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When religious groups are silent on an atrocity it is shocking.
But when that silence is based on negotiations being done with the state committing the atrocities, it confirms that that group is on the side of evil.
The RC ‘church’ is not a religious group, it is a cult geared towards as much power for itself as possible and it controls a tin pot state in Italy which gives it access to the diplomatic world.

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5.34am: What colossal outrage of protests are you involved in against injustices and human rights violations apart from mouthing platitudes anonymously? I suspect you are the priverbial laptop troll. All shitty talk but no action. Find something useful to do: You could go and protest against the awfulness of homelessness….of course that would require moral courage!!

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And of course you don’t know what I do and never will. I would direct you towards charity rather than your arrogant attempts to divert attention from criticism of your cult.

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I wonder if the Chinese Government obtained Vatican compliance by threatening to expose all the sex, money and corruption secrets unearthed by hacking the Vatican IT systems?

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Coddle was in Rome recently. Once this fact was revealed on this blog he flew back to Dublin the next day. He did Mass in the Pro yesterday because of criticism on this blog that he had not done public Mass in many months. Pat, you have insured that Coddle is accountable.

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9 21: You are so full of shit. Archbishop Martin dies not live his life by the trolls on this blog He is far more intelligent for this crap. You are delusional.

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There is so much injustice in this world both real and imagined while jesters play chess ♟ with plastic clerics. Don McLeans American Pie song comes to mind 👋

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It’s not just Francis ignoring the plight of the Uighur Muslims. It’s not front page anywhere and Parliament is not up in arms about it. I suppose the difference is Francis doing dodgy deals, and removing from a speech remarks about their situation.
As usual, Teflon Frank gets away with it because the secular media loves him for his itchy ears doctrine and their hope that he’ll turn the Church into an NGO with the values of the Guardian, the New York Times and the Tablet.

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The next Primate will be Ruth Cardinal Kelly, with Jerry Cardinal Ewing as Coadjutor, those earlier named having declined, due to pressing engagements

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a friend of mine is upset because a priest blocked him on twitter. If it was me I’d give him the finger and tell him where to shove his twitter 👆🏼

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I saw one priest gloating that he had 10k followers. most of these twitter/snapchat/TikTok priests are narcissists. They need the constant praise of the bah bah. ‘oh look at me so holy and great, butter wouldn’t melt”. STOP FUNDING THESE PEOPLE

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5.45: I agree with you. People are vying with each other for popularity on all kinds of social media platforms. It’s a strange vulture to feel the constant need for sharing mostly useless information, yet people don’t really interact meaningfully. The art of conversation is a lost art, sadly. What people share is shallow, all about “me” and “my” world! Very shallow and empty.

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I’ve decided to replicate Facebook and other social platforms in REAL LIFE folks. In past few days I’ve told lots of strangers what I’ve had for breakfast, where I’ve been, what I’m having for tea, etc, etc. And I’ve had lots of followers, policemen, psychiatrists, ……….

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I’m currently going through the priests twitter account and its clear he loves the attention. Has very unsavoury followers. He follows all Gemma O’Dohertys friends, racists, homophobes and just very nasty people – it takes one to know one.

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2.15: As I said, trolls like you are all talk but no action. And you, sir, do not know what I do and never will but I don’t just sit and moan….Incidentally, I am a member of my local parish community with a very active justice and peace group that is open to creative new members. Care to join us?

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5.09: 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸👹👹👹👹👹😭😭😭😭😃😃😃😃🌷🌷🌷…you poor sod.. yawn…yawn..😁😁😁😁😁

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NB the justice ‘n’ peace group does not meet on Thursday mornings because that’s pension day and we all go out to Costa Coffee.

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Lol I knew some troll would ask sooner or later. I refer you to my earlier answer. My work for NATO doesn’t give me much time.

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7.15
You’re very testy: you know, defensive. Aren’t you? The question is why.
I asked a reasonable question, given your earlier and grand self-claim, and you call me a ‘troll’. Now why did you do that, since it was utterly unprovoked, and uncalled for? And then came the Eureka! moment:
‘I refer you to my earlier answer. My work for NATO doesn’t give me much time.’
Two evasions in one sentence, the second of which is as much a statement of self-importance as one of distraction. And they point to one, inescapable conclusion about how much your little parish justice and peace group actually does:
SFA!
Boasters are liars.

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And I told you you would never know what I do but you just had to ask didn’t you.
I also directed you to charity about other people.
If you go around, leaping down the throat of anyone who criticises your cult (parish justice and peace group don’t make me laugh), demanding to know what they do for justice two things happen. One is you end up looking silly like you do, and you reveal that you’re not actually interested in what anybody else does for justice. You are bothered to show how concerned you think you are for justice yourself and you are made jumpy by criticism of the so-called church.
🤣

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In my first 100 days I will ensure that CCTV is installed throughout the diocese and there will be no late night callers to church owned property. I have appointed Guy Fawkes as director of elections and Mary queen of Scots as his deputy. #Hep4Dublin #MakeDublinGreatAgain

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8.25: Me thinks the dear lady protesteth too much but is also very agitated, defensive and, dare I say, very confused…lighten up, darling…😁😁😁😁😁😁😁☻☻☻☻☻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🐧🐧🐧🐧🕊🐧🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🌹🌹🌹🌹🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣..

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