The disappearance of young priests soon after ordination seems to be a growing problem.
It costs between £ 150,000 and £ 200,000 to train a priest.
YOUNG PRIESTS MISSING IN ACTION
FATHER CONOR MC CARTHY – DOWN AND CONNOR
Conor was ordained in 2015. He was actually sent to Larne as a curate.
He was living in a dark, cold presbytery with a near retirement.priest.
The house is always in darkness and there would have been more life in a morgue than in that house.
I dont know if that contributed to his leaving.
He now works as a temporary religion teacher in a girl’s grammar school.
He is not mentioned on the Down and Connor Clergy List.
FATHER BRENDAN COLLINS – DERRY
Brendan Collins was ordained for Derry.
He has been left for several years.
He is not mentioned on the Derry Clergy list.
FATHER CHRIS DERWIN – DUBLIN
Chris Derwin was ordained for Dublin in 2015.
He had at least two parishes in two years.
He is not mentioned on the Dublin Clergy List.
Some say he is a shopkeeper in the countryside?
FATHER JOHN PAUL LYTTLE – PORTSMOUTH – PREVIOUSLY DOWN AND CONNOR.
John Paul Lyttle has had a very all over the place history.
He lived in Guernsey and Belfast.
He was a seminarian for Down and Connor.
He then changed to Portsmouth and went too Oscott seminary.
He was dismissed from there by the Bishop of Portsmouth Crispian Hollis.
He fell from a priest’s house wi dow and nearly died.
He was then accepted back into Portsmouth by the new bishop Egan, who ordained him.
As a recent curate in Reading he tried to sexually seduce a young police man parishioner.
He is now missing.
Egan has refused to take any action.
The matter is now being referred to the Congregation of the Clergy in Rome.
The training of these four young priests cost between £ 600,000 and £ 800,000.
Did something go wrong during their training?
Were their formators incompetent?
Anybody know of other recently ordained priests missing inaction?
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
238 replies on “YOUNG PRIESTS MISSING IN ACTION.”
OMG…the concerns of someone with nothing useful to do….boring, boring, boring…Sweet heart of Jesus, have mercy on you..
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10:42, yet here you are and the first to comment.
Pot calling the kettle black
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11.59: Silly comment – miss Jessie….proves my point.
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You have time to read and comment on the blog. Go figure!
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Maybe the reality didn’t match their expectations. I remember one oscott graduate describing the shock he experienced going from the seminary to a parish.
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Robert McGivney, Meath.
https://www.icatholic.ie/robert-mcgivney-priesthood/
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Meath has taken down the searchable database on the website…+Tom is late with the clerical changes too.
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Fr Dan Fitzpatrick, Hexham and Newcastle.
Disappeared after an argument on twitter. Reappeared as an atheist living with his girlfriend.
Fr Vincent Malone, Westminster.
Disappeared after number of weeks preaching in favour of womens ordination and married priests. Reappeared as a layman with a wife and kid.
Fr Henry Wisneit, East Anglia
Joined a traditionalist monastry in Australia but didn’t like it.
Travelled back to the UK but not appointed anywhere. Has been seen at SSPX and recusant independent Catholic masses.
Vocations directors have a habit of disappearing
Fr Ray Lyons, Portsmouth
Former vocations director now out of ministry.
Fr Robert King, Clifton
Former vocations director now a movie director.
Fr Simon Leworthy, FSSP
FSSP vocations promotor, dismissed from Reading parish with questions of a homosexual nature surrounding him. Now MIA.
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Is there something in the water in Reading?
That where JPL PB tried to seduce the young copper.
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Simon Leworthy ex-FSSP has been all over the place, geographically. An Australian (albeit with a British passport due to family links to Yorkshire) he was originally a priest of the wonderfully named diocese of Wagga-Wagga, then switched to the diocese of Armidale (both Oz). After studies in Germany and Rome he was appointed by the FSSP to Reading. He used to also say the traditional Mass in Flitwick, where a blog favourite, the late Canon Sweeney, was PP.
Simon then went on a grand tour, being assistant priest in Clapham Park, Bridlington and Cambridge, where he now lives as a lay man.
This is how his departure from Reading was announced.
http://www.lmschairman.org/2012/06/news-from-reading.html?m=1
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What is that white thing he is wearing. It looks like a Victorian undergarment for a lady.
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Pat, that’s Fr Armand de Malleray, who was the Superior in Reading. He’s an austere Frenchman. Simon Leworthy was jolly and much more normal than most traddy priests.
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The LMS announcement about Fr Leworthy is very cold. It suggests to me that he left with a black cloud hanging over him.
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Maynooth in recent years has two former directors of formation go MIA. Paul Prior and the one who is lay chaplain with the Bon nuns.
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Dan Fitzpatrick wrote this Guardian article, using the name Dan Murtah. He did stand-up comedy for a bit and how is an assistant headteacher.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/13/a-moment-that-changed-me-leaving-catholic-priest?CMP=share_btn_tw
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Dan Fitzpatrick also popped up on RTE as Dan Murtah.
https://radio.rte.ie/radio1highlights/years-i-started-questioning-vows-id-taken/
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– R. King left ( apparently / probably ) in good odour and good circumstances, sadly that’s not very typical
– a completely different variation of course is through a “sodality” – one doesn’t even need to get laicised –
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Fr Henry Whisenant (referred to above), is with the FSSP in Warrington.
See: https://fssp.co.uk/your-clergy/
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The more fundamental problem isn’t these immature men: it’s the men who pass them as fit for ordination and the men who ultimately ordain them.
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11:02. Yeah. More immature men.
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Kept immature by the boarding school ambience of Gaynooth.
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Pat, are you familiar at all with the writings of James Mackey, RIP, the brilliant ex-priest and former professor of divinity in Edinburgh University, who died earlier this year? An ex-Maynooth man, he wrote in the Furrow that Maynooth had the atmosphere and ethos of a boys’ boarding school. I must dig out the article.
https://www.ed.ac.uk/divinity/news-events/obituaries/james-p-mackey-1934-2020
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He taught for a while in St John’s Waterford.
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I was looking at the Waterford and Lismore website. There don’t seem to be any mention in their list of priests of Richard Geoghan since he appeared in drag on one of Francis Brennan’s tv programmes. Michael Kennedy also appears to be gone missing. He broke an aids story picked by sky news over 20 years ago. Phonsie brought in the Indian priests after he moved from Limerick to Waterford and they too seem to have gone AWOL or at least the most of the three have.
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Father Cilla Black has been sent by Phonsie for post graduate studies.
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You mean Shirley Bassey?
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Sorry. Yes. Shirley Bassey.
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8:02. Post graduate studies in what? For three years. Who is paying his fees?
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Phonsie is paying. The performing arts.
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A module is being offered to students at Edge Hill University as part of the performing arts, dance and drama degree.
Those who sign up will study drag performance, costume, lip-syncing and classic mincing.
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Sounds like the +Aul Doll may have complete that module.
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There’s more than Kennedy and Geoghegan missing off the list of priests on the Waterford/ Lismore website. Why is there an evangelization appeal for money on the Waterford/ Lismore website to employ two lay workers ?
What do priests do all day everyday? Play golf?
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The performing arts! He doesn’t need post grad in the performing arts.
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Is Rev. Frank Lloyd still in ministry in Waterford and Lismore?
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4:56
He didn’t need to do a course. See Bishop Buckleys YouTube channel for a performance.
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8:40 am
Indeed. Cosseted from the real world.
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Paul Nash, ex-Cork and Ross sem, then monk of Glenstal.
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Frank Lloyd was made parish priest about 15\20 years ago but retired in his early 50s two or three years later. Currently taking a lot of photos if we are to go by facebook. Still says the very odd public mass.
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i read in a waterford city pity an article by a fr liam power that phonsie is to loose five priests this year and there is no ordinations. checked online and see tbree priests have died this year.
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Who would want to work for Phonsie?
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Alexander Anderson, Derry diocese, has been c/o bishop’s house for about 20 years. What’s going on with him?
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Frank Lloyd retired in 2008.
He was subsequently chairperson of a golf club in West Waterford.
An avid photographer by all accounts.
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Exactly and where is Edward McGuinness also?
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Fr. Michael Kennedy’s claim to fame was being a cousin of the JFK family.
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Stephen O Brien and Michael O Connor are among the disappeared in Waterford and Lismore. Both taught in St. Johns.
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o’connor is still around. o’brien left priests about 20 years ago.
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Where is O Connor. He was living at the bottom of St John’s College fields.
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Patrick Relihan was, farcically, Vocations Director for Cloyne when he went MIA.
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Patrick – the great favourite of John Magee.
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Is this a another gay mafia story in cloyne ?
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Another Cloyne priest that went awol was Fr Matthew Ring.
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There was trouble in t’mill last year in Patrick Relihan’s outfit. I hope it’s all sorted.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/arid-30960774.html
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4:16
To the best of my knowledge, Stephen O’Brien’s younger sister Mary featured in Mary Rafterys documentary, “Behind the Walls”. Mary O’ Brien apparently had been sexually violated by Dr. Denis Lane O’ Kelly when she attended him for consultation. He practiced in Waterford. Dr. Denis Lane O’ Kelly was named in the Murphy Report.
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+Pat: I don’t think their “training ” is the sole reason for their current departure from what they may have well seen as their vocation when entering seminary training.
I suspect that they harboured doubts about their future clerical life during training, but for various reasons, ( misguided optimism or just lack of guts, take your pick of these, and others), they remained to be ordained, perhaps only then discovering the reality afterwards.
It would be an interesting study to examine the dropout rates historically, and the reasons behind that, at different stages of training or ministry after ordination.
MMM
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8:48. Methinks so
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Fr John Paul is not missing. In fact his whereabouts are well known. And he is doing well in himself. I don’t know who your Portsmouth sources are Pat but they’re misleading you here.
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What parish is he in then?
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What about Fr Robert McGiveny?
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Brendan Collins was a really nice young man, and it is a real shame he has abandoned the priesthood.
I met him many times when he served as Deacon for the cathedral in Derry and then as the curate of the Long Tower Parish.
When he was appointed curate of the Long Tower, there was a sense of joy and happiness, as for the previous three years Long Tower was merged together with the cathedral due to the shortage of priests, however in 2013 that changed, with a new Administrator and Curate, and all seemed well.
Brendan always seemed to be very nervous as a priest. Very polite, kind, warm and generous man, but always seemed to be a bag of nerves. I remember watching him at one Mass and he was cracking his knuckles all the time, a nervous tick he seemed to do at every Mass.
Brendan along with the administrator Eddie Gallagher were a fantastic combination for the Long Tower Parish, and the parishioners really loved them, and appreciated their hard work, Brendan was a favourite in the primary schools, and he managed to regain the trust of adults after years of scandals involving priests and school children of course.
I remember Brendan organising the carol services and nativity plays, and the children saw Brendan as a big brother type, which was wonderful to see.
Sadly when Eddie Gallagher was moved after just two years as administrator by Bishop McKeown, that didn’t go down well, and the new administrator Eamonn Graham had a more frosty relationship with his curate.
Rumours abound as to what happened to Brendan. Some parishioners have said they found out the truth, and apparently among Long Tower parishioners say it involved Brendan taking “a shine” to a young man in the parish, and that led on to something a bit more serious, which led to Eamonn Graham discovered it and reported it to the Bishop. That is their reasoning to the eventual dismissal from the diocese by Bishop McKeown.
Eamonn Graham was kicked out of the Long Tower Parish along with Brendan’s departure. Eamonn was sent to the back of beyond, out into a wild countryside rural parish, where he remains there to this day. Gone and totally forgotten by the Long Tower parishioners.
Brendan’s departure hurt the parishioners I spoke to. They really taken Brendan to their hearts, and were shocked and saddened of his abrupt departure, classified as “going on sabbatical leave” – him only being ordained THREE years at that point.
The Long Tower Parish then took a shift towards conservatism under their new administrator Aidan Mullan. A priest who nearly died of a massive heart attack in the Dungiven Parish he served, and is now in charge of thee most historic place of Catholic worship in Derry.
Aidan is a very nice and pleasant priest, whom the parishioners adore, however when he arrived in the autumn of 2016, they noticed the liberal, more relaxed nature of the last three years were gone, and in came a more conservative approach, a lot more traditional form of worship.
They also noted, that Aidan was left on his own, with Bishop McKeown refusing to provide a curate to help Aidan, and instead the neighbouring cathedral has to help out when needed, with Patrick Lagan, the cathedral curate who also has very strict, conservative, traditionalist priest helping, as the modernist style of Paul Farren the cathedral administrator is not liked. Paul Farren’s name doesn’t go down well with parishioners of the Long Tower today.
So, just my views as a semi-regular parishioner. I don’t care what you think of the views I put, I leave it up to others to judge Brendan’s actions, and I do wonder if he will ever return to ministry – I sincerely doubt it.
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Long Tower parishioner 2:09am!!!
If this spoiled priest had as you say taken a shine to a young man in the parish, thanks be to God he’s gone before anything happened. St Columba’s is one of the very few Churches left that still looks Catholic. I am very happy to here that you have a conservative Priest now you should thank God for that. I wouldn’t worry about Collin’s you should thank God he’s gone before he brought scandal to the parish
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8:41.
Bella! Don’t be nasty. Charity please.
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8.49
Sorry Polly. Its the gargle. I’m back on it, and I’ve a terrible hangover. Makes me irascible, more than usual. I did say a hundred Memorares for a cure on the advice of a friend, but I forgot to spit over my left shoulder after each one while standing on one leg. You’re supposed to whistle Dixie too, but I’m not sure about that one, sounds like superstition to me.
Anyway I’m off to confession for my manifold sins of drunkenness.
Oh!
Eviva Maria!
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It also sounds like Brendan is way too emotionally competent and has too many people skills, to be a priest. Humans need not apply.
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9:18am
Polly I’ve already told you that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and you certainly are the lowest unlike you I’m not on the gargle day and night. I suppose you can’t help it as you have never been able to cope with being a REJECT and found unworthy for The Sacred Priesthood I will still pray for you, you sorely need it.
Eviva Maria!
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Why does it always seem to involve “a young man” of the parish? A BAME muscle daddy would be nice for a change.
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Have you ever seen one at Mass?
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Sadly, the CATHOLIC dream is dead. BUT if I become Archbishop of Dublin, I will bring it back, BIGGER and BETTER than ever !!!
I’m Canon Matt Hep and I’m running for Archbishop of Dublin.
#Hep2020 #MakeDublinGreatAgain #Brandy&Whiskey #BigPointyHat
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Canon Hep for Archbishop of Dublin. Make the dream a reality.
#Hep 2020.
#Dublin Big Pointy Hat
#Booze Cruise To Rome
# Any Dream Will Do.
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8:36, Team-work makes the dream work. Let’s do this !!!! 🤗 #Hep4Archbishop 🎉
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nominations for Archbishop can be sent to the following address: PayPal Nuncio, Big Large House, Navan Rd, Dublin
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9:18 am
Ciao, Bella. Say one for me, but don’t break a leg!
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It would take a lot more than one for you Polly. You’re irredeemable!
Eviva Maria!
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6:16
Kitty,
“Mistakes can be rectified”
It’s My Pal the Nuncio, Large Big House,Navan Rd, Dublin.
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8:49am
I am not being nasty, I am pointing out that Priests should not be making particular friendships with anyone especially not with a young man. You who ever you are would be the first to give out about it if their was any abuse. That’s why I am saying Thanks be to God and His Holy Mother this spoiled priest has gone before he gave cause for scandal. It is of course a scandal that so many newly ordained Priests leave but what can you expect with the dreadful formation they get now.
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9.57
Your sarcastic wit is even lower than Polly’s, and he slithers on the ground.
Holy Mother Church needs to use the rod more often to bring these rogue priests into line. It can’t be cake all the time.
Eviva Maria!
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9:34 am
Bella, what is your definition of a particular friendship? And what is a spoiled priest?
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9.42
Don’t take me for a fool. You know very well what is meant by the phrase particular friendship. These so called friendships bring scandal to Holy Mother Church and turn the faithful into the faithful departed. No joke, because so many then leave the bosom of their Holy Mother.
What is a spoiled priest? You keep asking silly questions. A spoiled priest is one that puts himself first, prays little if at all.
Eviva Maria!
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9:37 am
Bella, try spitting over the right shoulder, while standing on the other leg. Change the tune.
Whistle , ‘Always look on the Bright side of Life’, then see what happens.
That just might do the trick.Ciao, Bella.
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The traditional definition of a spoiled priest is a sem who wasn’t ordained, eg Maudlin Mick.
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I enjoyed reading that, Bp Pat, I am sure their families wouldn’t have minded their sons being ‘same-sex-married-priests’ had this been allowed in the Catholic Church. It would solve an awful lot of problems and unhappiness.
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IMPOSTER at 9:52
Patsy please stop this lowlife from using my name you know that it was not me.
Eviva Maria!
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10.15
You’re the impostor.
Be gone, or I’ll report you to Patsy, Polly. You were given the boot from seminary and this blog, so get over it and get a life.
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9:06 am
Bella, what do you mean by ‘the rod’ ? Corporal punishment, as in the lash or spanking?
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10.16
Normally I wouldn’t dignify a filthy post like yours with an answer, but I’ll make an exception this time. Holy Mother Church should threaten these rogue priests with excommunication for their roguery. The thought of being spit roasted for eternity would put manners on them.
Eviva Maria!
Deus vult!
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MC aka Polly
I wish to make an announcement I have been Saved thanks to the prayers of many good people especially one who never gave up. I recant all the dreadful statements I have made on this blog about Our Holy Mother The Church. I submit to the Sovereign Pontiff and accept with docility all the teachings of his August Person. I have made a General Confession I am exhausted, it took two days but I am so relieved. I have taken the Pledge and joined The Pioneers so no more gargle for me. Please pray that I persevere and keep true to my pledge.
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11:03 am
Eviva Polly!
Bella must have stood on his head for that to happen!
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Stephen Wilson is in regular physical contact with Chris Deriwn. Like Delaney’s donkey.
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Brendan Marshall is progressing to Ordination again from September. Eamon Martin is allowing him to proceed again. It’s all hush hush about his final studies. He will work for a time in the Communications Office of the bishops conference.
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He has a face for radio 📻
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LOL this is just pure lies.
Will you admit you’re talking shite come September?
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10:56 am
Bella, what do you mean by a filthy post? It was you who mentioned, the rod, not me.
I was curious to know what you meant. So you want rogue priests threatened with, the chop, excommunication, followed by eternal spit roasting. Was this discipline issued by the Council of Trent- rods, spits and roasting? Ciao, Bella.
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11.16
Yes it was. The Council of Trent didn’t abolish Hell.
There is still eternity of punishment for the damned, and you sound like one of them.
Eviva Maria!
Deus Vult!
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Polly at 11:16am
Sono contento di vederla Polly Ciao
Eviva Maria
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The anal sex is not great anymore in Maynooth.
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May God send down fire and brimstone on that glorified brothel!
Eviva Maria!
Deus vult!
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10:20am
It’s offical. A glorified brothel.
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11:40 am
Bella, come into the 21st century.
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2:13 PM
Stick to pigeon english, Bella,
Ciao,.💋
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MC aka Polly
I would like to take this opportunity to thank dear Bellarmine for all the prayers said for my conversion. I urge all the rest of the apostates on this blog to return to The One True Church and submit to the Roman Pontiff. You have no idea how happy it will make you to be back in the arms of Our Holy Mother The Church, praying for you all. O Felix Roma!
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What a waste of money!
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Oh the obliging boys in Maynooth never charged a penny, they did accept meals out and g and T’s though.
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7:47
MC aka Polly.
I hope you realise and appreciate the time energy and effort Bellarmine put into your conversion. He’s been spitting, whistling, singing, doing hand stands, head stands, plus one legged stands, while ranting at the rest of us apostates. What must we do to enter the fold?
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The only one I would call missing is Lyttle. I would call the others lef!
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Fr John Russell of Armagh went awol and now teaching.
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What about Kevin Connolly. Kevin is gone missing agian.
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@7.52am Kevin Connolly is not missing you fool. Please keep up and stop spreading lies. He’s taking over his new parish in Co. Tyrone. The Clogher clergy appointments will verify that. Some big shake ups there with clergy and parish closures.
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Lol now clarify are you one if his minions.
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Pat did you ever try Bot or Top with a current Maynooth Seminarian .
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No 😃
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8.43: Pat, you should not respond to such idiocy and delinquency at 8.43: That pig lowers your blog.
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What about Brian O’Toole of Dublin? He works as a nurse – is listed in Dublin’s stud book – holds a diocesan appointment of sorts (enclosed nuns in Malahide) yet hasn’t been seen for yonks. All tolerated and perhaps encouraged by Coddle Martin??
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Where does he nurse?
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St. James Hospital apparently.
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Does he still celebrate Mass for the nuns daily. I notice they have Mass everyday open to the public.
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it is a crime that the HOLY PRIESTS who ordained get up and LEAVE and go away they are the ones JESUS is saying to could you not watch one hour with me but they didn’t wait even five minutes the HOLY GOD will say why one day but they will just look at the ground clueless
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8:44am
I am so glad the veil has dropped from my drunken red eyes it is wonderful to see the truth I agree with all you say you wonderful good soul.
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Here’s a list of convicted Irish priests and brothers. It’s incomplete – it does not include Fr Jack McCabe of Clogher diocese.
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/Ireland/
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Dublin has several other unexplained disappearances. Paddy Moran – Retired?? he’s way short of the age. Paddy Monahan – retired? also way short of the age. Derek Smith – had a bypass and retired…. way short of the age. Strange that all three are connected. They buy the handbags in the same shops. Coddle Marrtin shoul be asked about these wasters now living off the diocesan fund.
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They are not wasters, two of them are available to celebrate Mass, and one of them has lost his faith and is an atheist but does secular humanist funerals, that are very similar to the ones he did before he embraced atheism.
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a quick phonecall could establish that,
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Holy Mother Church is well rid of these faithless and disloyal priests. They couldn’t account for themselves, so how could they take charge of parishes? They are the black sheep of the family. Good riddance to them!
The sooner Holy Mother Church returns to her roots in the Council of Trent, the sooner these scandals will stop. That’s my tuppence worth.
Eviva Maria!
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Bellarmine would you ever shut the f… up. You are trying to get a reaction but you are just coming across as a complete dick. Hold your stupid tongue because you add 0% to this discussion.
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Lol Bellarmine is a complete dick. Actually saying that I am sure she’s got one and I picture very much as a self-loathing gay man of a certain age dragged up like a pantomime Dame.
What’s the matter, dear, couldn’t you tell mummy why you never brought a nice girl home?
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9.53…And you, dear miss, add ….-100%. And I’m being kind….
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9:35
Bella, doesn’t the Holy Mother Church have her roots in scripture, not the Council of Trent?
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10.11
You’re a HERETIC! The Proddies have their roots in Sola Scriptura, but Holy Mother Church has hers in Tradition and scripture.
The Council of Trent was the greatest in the Church’s history. We have to accept that and Holy Mother Church must find herself again in its infallible teachings. I pray for this everyday. But do you pray at all?
EVIVA MARIA!
DEUS VULT!
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10:51 am
Auld Gossip Alert!
The must have released her from the asylum, the neighbour’s will be building an even higher wall.
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10:51am
Sounds as if your telling your own story and you’re looking in the mirror and are self- loathing
when you see your own reflection and upset that yer mammy had finally found the pink basque she’d been missing for years. In your press stretched beyond recognition after you had struggled to get into it Sad.
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BELLARMINE – 11th Aug 2020 at 11:07 am – “You’re a HERETIC! The Proddies have their roots in Sola Scriptura, but Holy Mother Church has hers in Tradition and scripture.”
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You’re fifty years out-of-date – read up on Lumen Gentium and ‘Obsequium religiosum’, viz – The ones on the right are the girls for tonight.
Since V2 The Church of Rome claims authority to “develop” teachings based on three sources — Magisterium, Scripture, and Apostolic Tradition.
Roman Catholics no longer have to believe that Jesus is God the Son, or in his pre-existence, but they are required to believe whatever it is that Rome is currently saying.
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You are an apostate, Joe Lollard! What would you know about the teachings of our Holy Mother Church?
And Tradition includes the Magisterium, so stop picking nits. There’ll be no nits to pick where you’re going, and the only magisterium there will be the man with the pitchfork. He won’t spoil the rod, I’m telling you.
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Bullseye to Lollard 6.12!
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. . . FROM or BY . . . (I meant)
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Amazing
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Not as amazing as these randy vicars.
http://www.ecclaw.co.uk/clergy-discipline/
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Except, 10:12, your attempt to point at another church has just backfired on you, because the Church of England publishes all decisions under the Clergy Discipline Measure – Rome only publishes when forced.
I know which I prefer.
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Belladonna, I thought your confessor told you comment on this blog was an occasion of sin. Why are you still here?
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10.38
You could learn manners and humility by studying the life of that great and good HOLY PRIEST. And it is bad manners to poke your nose into someone else’s business.
Go and do penance, like the good curé. He ate nothing but watery spuds.
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Obedience issue?
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Auld Gossip Alert!
Just to annoy you Mother Teresa. or whatever name you’re using now!
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What is the financial situation with the MIAs, c/o the bishops house brigade?
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The faithful continue to foot the bill.
If you want to finance clergy but know that it won’t go to MIAs it’s best to give to specific clergy.
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Who is the athiest ex-priest of Dublin diocese who does humanist funerals?
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Dermo Martin
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Whatever happened to Fr Patrick O’Rourke? From Belfast and ordained for Westminster in the nineties. Disappeared from his first parish assistant priest appointment. Parishioners informed he was on sick leave and the Cardinal had decided that when he recovered he would not return to the parish. He was a golden boy and popular at the Cathedral. It made no sense.
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I remember at choral vespers one Sunday in WC when he was a sem, Patrick O’Rourke introduced the reading as “a reading from St Paul’s Letter to the Hebrews”. He must have done the sem course.
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He annoyed the PP and seminarian by singing loudly in the presbytery, including “Oh, Lord, it’s hard to be humble, when I’m perfect in every way.”
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O’Rourke was from Lisburn, Co Antrim – a big ugly fat lump of a bruiser. Indeed, was seen stuffing his big jowls on the Two Fat Ladies BBC prog from Vestmeenster Cathedral. Apparently, not long after he was ordained, a young fella in the parish choir stole his heart. He had a heavenly voice and a bum to match. Porker O’Rourke hasn’t been seen or heard of since. Not even in Lisburn.
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A golden queer may make more sense.
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He has disappeared totally from the internet.
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O’Rourke was at that famous Two Fat Ladies dinner in Westminster Cathedral when he was still a seminarian. He was ordained but has completely disappeared. Not even a google print. Gone into thin air. Anyone have any insights?
Also, who remembers Paul, a great friend of a former Adm? Many senior Westminster clergy attended Paul’s wedding, though the marriage came to an end.
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There was a bit of a kerfuffle when Patrick O’Rourke was in Maynooth.
Who is the Westminster PP who is a tranny and dresses up and parades around the Poland Street area on a regular basis? The gay mafia in Westminster have girls names for one another.
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Maybe these young queens will one day return to the priesthood when they are older. In the meantime, let them enjoy their faggotry, Bp Pat, without the hindrance of celibacy.
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@1.11’pm Yes indeed Paul and his wedding coming to an end. Paul was a senior server and Mgr Langham got very friendly with our Paul. The present Archbishop of Birmingham when Auxiliary in WC wined and dined our Paul to Dinner in a nice London restaurant. Many in Westminster were quite taken by Paul. They were more than surprised when he chose to marry because Paul wasn’t the marrying kind. Alas, it did not last very long.
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@1:11 Paul C?
on the contrary, I heard he was quite a womaniser. There was an allagation made against him by a female student at Newman House but he somehow slipped away unscathed.
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@1.23pm The tranny priest on Poland Street who likes the gay bar there is a former Anglican. Elsie is aware and turns a blind eye.
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Most of the former Anglicans came over in the mid-90s and are now of a certain age. Is this one a PP? He/she may need a walking stick to cruise down Poland Street and in to the Kings Arms.
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@2.58pm Paul C acted gay because he knew the Clergy in Westminster would give him attention and they did. He was basically a cock tease and fully knew what he was doing.
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Wasn’t Paul C a server at the Cathedral Portsmouth before moving to London?
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Is early retirement another cover story for some errant priests?
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Many have just become soiled-senior-citizens.
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Before being senior .
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or do these ‘early retirers’ have some leverage on their archbishop?
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@11.27am I wouldn’t think retirement of any kind, be it early or otherwise is a problem. I took early retirement from social work and I would take offence at anyone referring to me as errant because I chose to do so. Perhaps your question has some hidden agenda we are not aware of?
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11:59 am
Is social work and priesthood comparable when it comes to retirement?
A priest friend told me a priest would have to be half dead before allowed retire.
What’s the retirement age for priests?
Are they financially independent following retirement or financed by the diocese.
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In the context of widespread cover up of CSA by the church I think early retirement of some might be a problem.
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The other thing is social work is a worthwhile and very stressful occupation which would make early retirement imperative if at all possible. You did not retire from a life of playing golf and cottaging to… More golf and cottaging.
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@3.38pm Wrong again. Youv’e made a fool of yourself again with false info today. Former Anglicans have been accepted by Westminster in the past few years not only the 90’s. The Sub Adm at Westminster Cathedral is only one example, however, I do not implicate him in the Poland Street case. Maybe it’s you who needs the walking stick to get into the Kings Arms as you know it so well as to quote it. That venue would suit you with your stick as all the old hags get in there.
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CMOC’s housemate in Chiswick was/is a former Anglican, now a PP, received into the Church and ordained in the nineties.
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CMOC;s housemate was a prison chaplain and prison advisor to the CBCEW. He was there in Chiswick to ration CMOC’s.booze, really. After CMOC’s demise he went for.sunshine tour in Valladolid as something or other, but that didn’t last long – I think he didn’t get along with the rector there – and came home and is now a PP somewhere. Wonder what the falling out in Valladolid was all about ? Any info….? I’d say he probably regrets giving up his prison stuff, handing it over to an ex-Red and ex-RAF chaplain with an iffy past, now of Hexham and Newcastle. Strange boy.
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Let the young queers reclaim their destiny in queerdom, Bp Pat.
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The priests who leave a few years after ordination are at an awkward age, in gay terms. No longer twinks, and too young for daddy fanciers.
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Maybe a twank.
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Twonks?
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11.30: I’m sure you’ll give them some succour!!!! Won’t you? 👠👜👜👜👜💔💔💔💔👜👜🤣🤣👹😄😄👜👜👜👄👄👄👜👜🐞🐞🐞….
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I wouldn’t relish being a retired priest. By all accounts some bishops have cut their allowances and pensions. Vincent is but one example. Nobody gives a toss about them when they become no use to their bishop.
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Pat, I must admit to being rather conflicted about Bellarmine. At first I thought he was a joke. But given the trend of his comments today I feel like the Holy Office should be brought back and he should be in charge of it. His approach to excommunication would ensure a worldwide Catholic population of 1 in no time. Then at least the police could keep track of the Catholic church!
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12.23
If I were the Grand Inquisitor of the Holy Office, you’d be first on my list for interrogation. You’d know the meaning of penance by the time I’d finished with you.
And I soon sort out those priests with particular friends. There’d be discipline through the rod, and there’d be godly order.
Eviva Maria!
Deus Vult!
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12:50
Sounds like you are fond of using the rod, Bella. 😉
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Spare the child by not spoiling the rod. That’s what the Book of Mormon tells us.
Yes, I would use the rod, again and again, until my collagen-free skin glistened with smoking sweat.
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Are some errant priests relocated from one country to another as a from of cover?
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That technique has been used with paedophile priests, frequently religious priests because they have the mechanisms all ready to move people. That said if you look at the priests’ files Los Angeles we’re forced to disclose, diocesan priests were often passed on to Mexican dioceses with the usual code words used by the bishops to each other. The church certainly isn’t bothered by Hispanics having criminals foisted on them – the only places they avoid are rich places in case the donations dry up.
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Mr errant is back @12.26pm. Must only know one phrase as he uses it so much. Let’s delve into your skeletons. I bet you any money you just have a few dirty and dark secrets to discuss.
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1:28
What dark dirty erring secrets are in your closet?
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6:16
Bella, The Book of Mormon! So you DO like using the rod, as I suspected. Shocking.😜
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Diocese of Rome is a brilliant thing to belong to if someone needs you AWOL
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Last time I heard Clergy talk like JPL is quoted, it was in front of an old spinster who subsequently developed a turn of phrase herself. Methinks it didn’t “need” to be referred to the Congregation of the clergy. Why clobber this new crop all of a sudden?
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11:59
It is a sad fact , the institutional church cannot be trusted.
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The HOLY CHURCH is the face of the HOLY GOD in earth and could always be trusted to not to do that is to turn away face from the face of the ANGRY HOLY God and he will Punish those that say he has more than one face just wait
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Portsmouth seems to welcome refugees from Westminster and elsewhere, including the late much-missed Fr George Lyons and Fr Pat Madden (a PP in Reading, but not the JPL English Martyrs parish).
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Porstmouth and Plymouth also accept clergy refugees from Westminster.
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Indeed, Fr Anthony O’Gorman (with the pony tail) is PP in Newquay. He once went on a TV chat show hosted by two American priests, doing a song and dance. I’m sure Bishop Mark is wise in considering suitable Westminster priests, as he was Rector of Allen Hall.
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I had an experience with the late Fr George Lyons, in which he wasn’t so great. He was back on the drink, which partly excuses him. I think the drink took him in the end.
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Yes, it was a very sad ending. He and a priest friend had visited his elderly mum in Ireland and said Mass with her in her care home. Fr George then passed away in the house he was staying in.
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@2.03pm Mark O’Toole as bishop of Plymouth is a refugee cleric from Westminster. Secretary to CMOC and rewarded by him as Rector of Allen Hall and then a Mitre at Plymouth. Very unsuitable character to both jobs and total company man, sneaky and devious. Pious but a very cunning streak.
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Bella, in your role as grand inquisitor why don’t you do a trawl of all diocesan websites to determine who needs the rod.
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Polly at 1:38pm
No need when you’ve already done it Polly.
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2:03pm
No, Bella. I haven’t done it.
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2.47
Ignore the imposter at 2.03. That troll has been busy here all day claiming to be me. I know she is not.
Yes, I would trawl every diocesan website, and like Matthew Hopkins of old, Witchfinder General, I’d fish out every pervert priest in every parish; he would then feel my great rod. And I would whip it about before giving it to him, full on.
He would know the mark of Bellarmine after I was done with him.
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Joseph Merrick is getting a MASSIVE payout from Coddler Martin. 100k+ 😱
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1:40, why? He was a teacher but I suppose he decided to go where the money is being a secretary to a bishop.
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He is getting redundancy. Dermott is looking after his kitten. 🐱
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5:51, no he’s not !!!! stop being a trouble maker !!
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8:12
Good on you, Bella. All girl. Sock it to them, Bella. 👍💋
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Fr Eddie Clare ? Former Vocations Director for Birmingham and then Director of Maryvale now vanished into thin air
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…because apparently he has been a naughty boy….allegedly….and is furloughed…..and questionable as to whether he will make it back….familiar story.
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Eddie Gallagher what
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Plans for Sailortown church.
https://twitter.com/ulsterahs/status/1291326025121628160?s=20
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It hasn’t been referred to the congregation for clergy for goodness sake. Talk about old spinsters – most of you queens on this blog are old spinsters.
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2.14: I agree, Miss Haversham….like you, auld rags. What colour is your hair – pink or grey or are you a balding queen too??
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How is this carry on within the Rcc sustainable on any level?
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It is not sustainable! God will triumph over these priests and bishops with particular friends. They will eat the dust of abject humility.
Eviva Maria?
Deus Vult!
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It’s all fun and games in the seminary, you’re surrounded by lots of people. A different kettle of fish when you’re out on your own and all you have is auld biddies fussing over you because your’e a priest. It gets depressing. I remember one young priest celebrating his 30th with an old priest and the housekeeper. what a life !
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@3.41, so you don’t think that Mark O’Toole is a prime candidate to return to Westminster? Elsie has to offer her resignation in a few months on reaching 75.
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#Hep4Dublin #MOT4Westminster
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#Hep and Ponsie for Presidency.
#H&P 2020.
# DreamTeam.2020.
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They say Elsie’s already seventy-eight. How can that be, Bp Pat?
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That’s easily explained – she’s sold her soul 👹
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anyone on here life me that doesn’t enjoy the sun. I love the winter and the dark evenings, and the rain and snow. I hate going out in the sun and people must think im very odd.
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Actually, I rather like foggy nights best when my top floor flat disappears.
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Imagine if Mavis from Shrewsbury got Westminister. Yikes.
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I’d rather not imagine that disaster the pretending to be vaguely trad has worn rather thin over the years just look at the priests and seminarians he surrounds himself with. His sermon one Midnight Mass compared the development of gay civil partnerships as equivalent to Nazism imagine taking your family to the Cathedral at Christmas and hearing that ? Why wasn’t he preaching on the incarnation ? A very divisive figure who’s about as traditional as his great hero Pope John Paul
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The bringing in a law in Scotland that would stop that sort of disgusting comparison.
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It would not surprise me at all, if JPL is staying with Ray Lyons in Isleworth.
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I think tRev Lyons is now moved to the Southampton area.
I believe he is there too.
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Fr Sean Tobin is there too!
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Update re: Tom Monty Montgomery?
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@7:23 With Madame Jane Neal
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For centuries the clergy told married people that they just had to put up with it and stay in an unhappy marriage and not get divorced. In Catholic countries it was illegal to do so. Yet priests, who were at least 25 years old when ordained and who had 6 or 7 years to make up their minds (akin to a very long engagement) can just pack it all in and often get a Church-related job and a resettlement grant to set them up in their new life.
#doublestandards
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I’ll be five years ordained next week. I might as well hit the bottle now. What’s the point.
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9.43: I don’t believe you’d be so reckless in saying what you may do. Seriously, if you are a priest and feel rotten – please see a professional. This is not a matter for joking about. Believe me.
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I assume A9.43 you’re still a relatively young man? Get out now, ASAP. Take a leap, not of “faith “, whatever that is, but of hope. Give yourself a chance of normality, or increasing regret for rest of your life.
MMM
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12 33am: MMM – Is that the approach of a social worker, supposedly giving professional advice? Get out!!!!! All of us go through different phases of experiences in our lives, yes, even clerics, MMM!! We are human beings and therefore go through the vagaries of daily life – we are not exempt. At the first signs of real difficulties, seeking professional help is advisable and recommended, not telling someone to flee!! How utterly very unprofessional of you. If this was a doctor expressing the same sentiments or a social worker (God forbid!), would you tell them to flee? My counselling skills suggests a very different approach.
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A@9:25: It tell me a lot about you views when you appear to regard a cleric’s reality based realisation and apprehension of the ugly nature of his institutional employers can be simply dismissed as, ” the vagaries of daily life .”
Cop on, get real and wise up, and stick your “counselling skills”, where…….!
MMM
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A judge refers to “strange goings on”.
https://connachttribune.ie/galway-priest-assaulted-by-parishioner-909/
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Tuam has a number of MIA. Two of the most interesting are Fr Michael O’Malley and Fr Martin Whelan, both of whom are c/o Archbishop’s House.
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Not MIA, but an interesting change for Fr Patrick O’Donohoe, who was ordained for Galway diocese in 2010. He is now a member of the FSSP, in Reading.
https://fssp.co.uk/your-clergy/
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@10.44, CMOC’s former housemate could be candidate for aux bish (West London), which was John Wilson’s previous role, or Cathedral Administrator.
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What a load of absolute bollocks
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