A source close to the Monastic Visitation currently being conducted into Silverstream Monastery says the monastery has only enough money to survive for weeks.
But look at these published figures from the Irish Charity Regulator’s site – for 2015, 2015 2016, 2017 and 2018.
In those 5 years the monastery income was Euro 4,065,899.
Their expenditure for the 5 years was Euro 1,696,825
Therefore their profit was Euro 2,369,074.
And this does not include income for 2019 and 2020 which on average would have been Euro 1,626,359.
So income for 7 years was Euro 6,434,973.
Expenditure for 7 years Euro 2,375,555
Total Profit for 7 years Euro 4,059 418
If Silverstream has made Euro 4 million profit in 7 years why are they now broke?
Who spent the 4 million?
What was the 4 million spent on.
I was surprised to hear that they have wine at every lunch and dinner 7 days a week.
Could 8 monks spend 4 million on food and drink in 7 years?
That would be Euro 11,000 plus a week on food and drink?
I wonder how much the monthly and yearly wine bill was?
I have learned that Silverstream has not only been reported to the Gardai but also the Irish Charity Regulator, who are launching an investigation.
Where there is sexual irregularities there are generally financial irregularities also.
One source has told me that Mark Kirby kept a drawer in his office with many thousands of Euros in cash in it?
TOM DENNIHAN of Meath needs to clarify where the Euro 4 million has gone to.
This is money that the Catholic faithful have donated thinking everything was ok.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
192 replies on “SILVERSTREAM MONASTERY – WHERE HAS ALL THE MONEY GONE TO ???”
You can see the wine in this video, from around 9:40. It looks like ordinary supermarket wine (Gallo?). Fr Prior has his own bottle but they seem to be drinking out of used jam jars, so a bit more digging is needed to find the missing millions.
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The jam jars are meant to convey poverty and austerity to gullible guests.
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They’d have to be uncommonly gullible, then. How many families can afford to live in the rarified world of wine with meals?
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@4:19 – do you drink out of a jam jar? They are suggesting that the win was donated, or a special occasion, but they are so dirt poor they cannot afford glasses. They are having a laff.
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A totally sanitised, romanticised, fantasised picture of monastic life. The ‘gentle and wise’ abbot, explaining, gesticulating, teaching…all a charade. And those others: did you notice how often they smiled? Not often. What lugubrious faces! I suppose this is what comes of liturgical rigidity.
There is no joy obvious in that place. They couldn’t manage even to fake it for a 14 minute video.
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Latin Mass requires Gold, Incense, Beeswax…
A lot of money needed.
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Not as much as jamborees such as the recent poorly attended papal trip to Ireland, and environmentalist Frank’s chartered jets all over the world. How many billions have been spent on reordering (ie destroying) sanctuaries built with the pennies of the poor?
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8:55am
How right you are, reordering as they like to call it should be called what it really is Desecration.
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8.55
So you condone the apparent corruption at Silverstream? The presumption is obvious since you didn’t condemn it and tried to divert attention from it by addressing something totally irrelevant.
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The person attacking the only form of Mass all the Irish Saints knew said that the money went on Mass supplies, as if the Mass was more costly. I was pointing out that the Novus Ordo crowd misspend far more, including on Francis’s gas-guzzling trips.
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2.44
Um, Jesus didn’t know the form of Mass that all those Irish ‘saints’ knew either. Does this matter to you?
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4.45
Your ‘theology’ is heretical. Jesus was not present at ‘every one’ of those Masses, because this implies that there is more than one Mass, which in turn suggests that Jesus must sacrifice himself for human redemption, again and again; this is an outright denial of 1 Peter 3: 18.
When Mass today is said, we, as it were, tap into the transcendent nature of that first and only historical Mass 2000 years ago. But were we to do so, faithfully, it should not liturgically be the ‘Extraordinary Form’ offered, nor the ‘Ordinary Form’, but the ritual manner in which it took place back then. And the language of worship would be Hebrew and Aramaic, not English, and certainly not Latin.
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Jesus did know that form of Mass because he was present at every one in the Holy Sacrifice.
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I realise that many of the seminary rejects on the blog were ejected before they got to studying dogma and theology, so here’s a little primer, from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, quoting the infallible teachings of the Council of Trent.
1366 The Eucharist is thus a sacrifice because it re-presents (makes present) the sacrifice of the cross, because it is its memorial and because it applies its fruit:
[Christ], our Lord and God, was once and for all to offer himself to God the Father by his death on the altar of the cross, to accomplish there an everlasting redemption. But because his priesthood was not to end with his death, at the Last Supper “on the night when he was betrayed,” [he wanted] to leave to his beloved spouse the Church a visible sacrifice (as the nature of man demands) by which the bloody sacrifice which he was to accomplish once for all on the cross would be re-presented, its memory perpetuated until the end of the world, and its salutary power be applied to the forgiveness of the sins we daily commit.
1367 The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice: “The victim is one and the same: the same now offers through the ministry of priests, who then offered himself on the cross; only the manner of offering is different.” “And since in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and is offered in an unbloody manner. . . this sacrifice is truly propitiatory.”
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@4:45 is a victim of exaggerated and senseless antiquarianism.
https://vultuschristi.org/index.php/2015/11/pius-xii-on-exaggerated-and-senseless-antiquarianism/
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6.01
Are you addressing my post at 4.05? You don’t indicate any post, so we are left having to assume one poster or another. It is always helpful to be express in this matter, and to be specific. For arguments sake, I’ll assume that you were indeed addressing my post at 4.05. And I’ll overlook that cheapshot of yours about seminary rejects
I’d bet you figured that qualifying ‘teaching’ adjectivally with ‘infallible’ would pre-empt all further discussion on the ontological nature of Mass. This was your trump card, wasn’t it? Instead, you played a busted flush: bullshit is never infallible.
The Eucharist does not, and cannot, make present the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross, since this was a concrete event, fixed behavioually in human history (unless time travel was discovered while I was looking the other way). However, what we can do at Mass is unite to that historical event through its transcendent, universal efficacy, a very different, not to mention more logical, act altogether.
Jesus was not a priest. Nor did he refer to himself in any such way. The title ‘priest’ used of Jesus is entirely a theological attribution. On the contrary, the Letter to the Hebrews makes clear that Jesus’ self-offering exposed the utter futility of priestly ‘atonement’; his self-offering, therefore, rendered priesthood absolutely redundant.
Jesus does not offer himself perpetually through the ministry of priests, since this self-offering was, as I said earlier, made concrete in human history; it occurred, therefore, just once, because once was sufficient, as 1 Peter 3: 18 makes clear. To claim that this act is continually, for all time, made through the ministry of priests is to imply either that the act is a work in progress (we are not yet redeemed), or that it must be repeated an infinite number of times. Every day, in fact.
As I said, too, ‘bullshit is never infallible’.
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2:44
You don’t believe the form of the Mass in Ireland of the first Christian millennium was identical to the post-Tridentine missal of 1570?
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6:01, you were the teachers pet, weren’t you?
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@2:44, yes, an Irish Christian from the first millennium would have no difficulty in recognising the Mass celebrated according to the codification of the Missal in 1570. It was not a new Mass, unlike Paul VI’s invention.
“The Order of Mass as found in the 1570 Missal of St. Pius V (1566-1572), apart from minor additions and amplifications, corresponds very closely with the Order established by St. Gregory (d. 604 A.D.).” (Davies)
“All later modifications were fitted into the old arrangement, and the most important parts were not touched. From, roughly, the time of St. Gregory we have the text of the Mass, its order and arrangement, as a sacred tradition that no one has ventured to touch except in unimportant details [until the Second Vatican Council].” (Fortescue)
“Essentially, the Missal of Pius V is the Gregorian Sacramentary; that again is formed from the Gelasian book, which depends on the Leonine collection. We find the prayers of our Canon in the treatise De Sacramentis [of St. Ambrose, c. 340-397] and allusions to it in the IVth century. So our Mass goes back, without essential change, to the age when it first developed out of the oldest liturgy of all.” (Fortescue)
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9.51
There were Irish priests long before Pope Gregory the Great, and therefore long before his codification (his attempt at uniformity) of the Mass. Clearly then, not every Irish monk would have recognised the Tridentine Mass, either in form or language.
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An Irish monk certainly wouldn’t recognise Paul’s New Mass. The difference is that until after Vatican II the Roman Rite had grown organically, its fundamentals unchanged and recognisible down the centuries. The Novus Ordo is a rupture, a rushed committee job, rejected by the majority of the faithful in the European heartlands of the Roman Rite, who have voted with their feet.
Beware antiquarianism.
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When you’re asking Tom about that would you ever ask him where he’s living himself?
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Maybe Glenstal will give them a dig out? Most monasteries fundraise and judging by a comment on this the other day the new Abbot of Glenstal Joe Brendan Coffey is the salt of the earth and from working class stock. Maybe the diocese and the other monasteries and convents will give the poor monks a dig out?
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It is indeed very concerning reading these allegations I hope they are not true and just the usual gossip from jealous clerics who do not get that financial support. I myself have given a small donation to Silverstream as I was delighted to see an order who were going to maintain our Glorious Catholic Heritage. I am glad that the Guards have been called in to investigate any financial irregularities and hope it is not true Please God.
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9:08 pm
Morning Bella, if you are not the imposter.
I doubt if the police investigate gossip. Sorry for your loss.
Luv Bella.
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9.08
Are you serious?
No priest should expect such financial returns; it’s corrupting. 1 Timothy tells us so. As did Jesus: ‘you cannot serve both God and mammon’.
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9.32
Poor Bellarmine. Ever backing the losing horse.
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If the allegations are true I wouldn’t like to be a fundraiser for Irish Seminaries or /monasteries/convents in America cus if this is true and it gets out they’re screwed
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It’s like the charade in Maynooth. When American doners are there the priests on staff wear the clerical clothes they normally eschew, and the sems log off from Grindr and wear choral dress and look pious.
Every year a delegation from Maynooth does a US tour, spreading the lie that Maynooth is a proper seminary.
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Caca from Traddiewackery will hit the fan big time.
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Dona 9:08am
Good After Noon Dona just back from Holy Mass on this Great Feast of The Assumption of Our Blessed Lady where I lit a candle for your intentions. You don’t need to worry about the imposter as from now on I won’t be signing so it will always be the imposter.
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So says the impostor at 2.05. 😅
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Gossip Monger 2:04pm
No loser wait and see what the truth is, don’t become judge jury and executioner on what you read on this blog.
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Ask NOT what Canon Matt Hep can do for you, ask what YOU can do for Canon Matt Hep!
I’m Canon Matt Hep and I’m running for Archbishop of Dublin!
🙂🤩😇😎🥳😷💪
#DublinFirst #ItsMyTime #Vodka&Coke
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#InHepWeHope
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2:05 pm
Good Afternoon, Bella.
Thank you for lighting a candle for me. It’s a fallen world.
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#YesWeCanDubs.2020.
#HepForDublin.2020.
#HepsTheMan#LiveTheDream.2020.
#BoozaCruisaRoma.2020-2040.
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Fr. Cilla 9:06
If you’ve any heart left, do wan.
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A bit of an obvious question. but how is an organisation with little or no public profile, getting over a million in a year? Am I missing something here? I live in a large parish in Ireland and we would certainly make nowhere near that kind of money.
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They are not getting it from the faithless Irish, who even if they heard of Silverstream would not donate to it. It comes from international traddy supporters.
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9:01am
There are still plenty of Irish who are faithful and will have donated, not everyone is as miserable as you.
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9.01
‘Faithless Irish’? You mean ‘sensible Irish’.
Not everyone is as easily taken in as you, Bella.😅
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The faithless Irish would rather vote for abortion than support the temporal goods of the Church.
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2.47
And what, really, is financed through those ‘temporal goods’? Let’s see. 😞 Temporally speaking, love of wealth, of self-idulgence, of sexual vice, of indiffernce to the poor; in a nutshell, general disobedience to God’s command concerning love of neighbour.
As for abortion, you have your church to thank for that, because your church never practised what it preached about human life: it NEVER respected its claim that such life was sacred, since it has ALWAYS approved not only its destruction through war and punishment, but, for very many centuries, the tradition of human slavery.
Why would the Irish respect unborn life when your church itself has never shown respect for it? On the contrary, it has historically undermined its only moral premise for preservation: that it is sacred.
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do you guys in Ireland not have a regulator, or at least a site where detailed information on charities expenditures are published.
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Polly at 2:06pm
No Polly I am never taken in I can always tell you a mile off . The Lord loves a cheerful giver not like you who only spends the taxpayers money from your dole on the gargle, what a wastrel.
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I have no idea whether it’s possible to spend that kind of money on food and drink drink but would love to have a go at finding out.
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What were they doing to make such profits? How is spiritual support to clergy and retreats so lucrative? How many rooms do they have in their retreat house? What educating were they doing?
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They were being parasites. And mooching.
What else?
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2:08 pm
Mooching for a million. What else……! If anything….
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His Lordship, the Most Reverend Big Delia, Bishop of Meath, should issue an interim statement on the matter while he continues with his investigation.
Of course, there could be a simply explanation for it all, Bp Pat, as Miss Kirby purchased several properties, including the main house, as well as carrying out numerous renovation projects within a 15 acre site.
She also wanted to purchase the remaining 160 acres, which she said was “indispensable for the preservation of silence and separation from the world.”
Cathy also had a fondness, among other things, for Byzantine iconography.
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Canon May Hep…
If you’re going the bar, it’s your round. Make mine a doube voddy & coke please,
a packet of pork scratchings and and a bag of sweet chilli Nobby’s nuts 😂
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Where did Miss Kirby come by so much dosh
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It seems Ann Corcoran, the former wife of the late John Corcoran of PaddyPower, was one of their benefactors.
However, I imagine most of the young gay postulants came with significant dowries they handed over to Cathy.
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8:52 am
Nobody over 35?! 🤔
I mean, those sums are quite large.
Expenditure is clearly nowhere near total annual income, so it is a mathematical certainly they have enough to invest in shares, stocks (or ISAs – which are shite now).
Has anybody looked at Companies House at all?
Try the address as opposed to the Order’s name.
I bet that abot is a CEO or company secretary or what not.
There is certainly something which does not add up.
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I think the money will all be tied up in property and land plus her beloved Byzantine art collection.
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The last published accounts of the Benedictine monks in Rostrevor had a surplus of £100,000 income over expenditure, yet when you go there they are always crying the poor mouth and suggesting that their next visitors will be the bailiffs.
https://www.charitycommissionni.org.uk/charity-details/?regId=105757&subId=0
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9:27
Where did her monies originally come from to purchase property and Byzantine art?
I thought monks take a vow of poverty….
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The Sisters of Mercy in Northern Ireland take a vow of poverty but they have £18m in reserves, and annual income of £2.2m from their state, NHS and teacher pensions, which they all donate to the Congregation’s common fund, via gift aid. HMRC tops it up by £500k via the gift aid wheeze the nuns use. That is just in NI alone.
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Probably mostly from rich fag-hags Kirby has cultivated.
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11.55 spouses and partners should get a subsidy for pooling their household income too
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11.28
They take also a vow of celibacy. But sure who’s checking?😕
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The Rostrevor monks would need a closer eye cast over their finances. I hear they are not a hospitable lot. I went ti a Mass before lockdown and had all their eyes boring into me because I was a stranger. A local told me they are loaded and often wined and dined in local eating houses. They give the impression they are poor but far from it
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The comment above getting donations from trads internationally is dead on the money lol
That’s why Lady Sadie Brogan, having designed a concelebrated Mass in the round set up for Farnborough in the early nineties abruptly decided Latin and backs to the people was the way to go… That and the fact it would attract young French men.
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Consider the Latin Mass Society of England and Wales, another relentless fundraiser with a small membership. Some years it gets legacies running into millions. It has reserves of £1.1m and does not seem to know how to spend its income. In the last accounts there was a surplus of £500k income over expenditure.
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=248388&SubsidiaryNumber=0
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Have you heard of CAFOD? They drain every state supported Catholic School ( only 10% comes from the Church and that’s for the buildings only) they have billions! I can’t quite see why the tiny Catholic population of England needs its own overseas development charity when there are daily arrivals from the third world at the white cliffs of Dover and U.K. taxpayers fund projects in China and India.Its not the 1980s.
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@12:33 I never give money to Cafod, Trocaire or any of those international aid outfits because of the duplication of effort and high staff salaries, but mainly because I’d be paying twice because I am already taxed for the ludicrous Government international aid. The UK, which has a huge deficit, gives billions away, and will carry on doing so as we face mass unemployment and the worst ever recession.
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@ 2.12, I wouldn’t donate to ANY organisation under the auspices of Romsn Catholic clerics.
It should go without saying now that where these parasites are involved, there is bound to be corruption, too.
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11:55 Wasn’t Miss Kirby wandering around like the lone ranger?
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Any Irish men in the Silverstream community?
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One. From Navan. Kirby said he had other Irish “nibblers”.
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Has Dom Cathy disappeared because of the money or the alleged assault, Bp Pat?
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I think the alleged assault was the primary reason. The Visitation discovered the dire financial situation.
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Ask the trustees about the monies, in particular ask the Very Reverend Gerard Deighan. An unintended consequence.
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BISHOP MICHAEL SMITH
This whole situation developed over a ten year period under the lack of supervision by Michael Smith.
It is a diocesan monastery.
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Bishop Michael Smith reminds me of Bishop Joe Duffy of Clogher. Both had limited pastoral experience, were appointed far too young. Despite their youth they were staid, uncharismatic, undynamic men who squatted on their thrones for decades, thereby keeping out better men.
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Is that not a description also of pious Amy of Armagh, or indeed Dermo, who settled into the role of analyst, sage and critic of the Church of which he was a very senior member, while doing nothing to make it better.
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Same goes for the aul doll
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Michael Smith reminds me of a retired woodwork teacher
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But at least bishop Joe Duffy was a generous host – or at least, so one is lead to believe.
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What has Michael Smith to say on the matter? He’s not Pope Benedict you know, he still attends things in the diocese. Where is he living now?
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Mind, Bp Pat, +Mandy-Rice would be almost seventy-three when she founded the Silverstream Priory for Benedictine Monks of Perpetual Adoration. However, she still must have known Cathy Kirby was bent as a banana.
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If it collapses the monks actually don’t have any shortage of more stable trad type monasteries to transfer stability to. As well as the obvious Barroux and Clairvaux there are a number belonging to the Solesmes congregation and if they don’t speak French, Solesmes has a couple in the US.
Sadly the days are gone when you would apply to a monastery based purely on what their observance was, and now the likelihood of being sexually harassed must be considered as well.
The kissing on the tonsure thing is literally the most bizarre thing ever.
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Only the solemnly professed and ordained are guaranteed to be given a place somewhere. The novices and the simply professed will be booted out if it closes, with no guarantee that another house will take them.
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They have no priest there at present.
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1.13
And that’s a bad thing?
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What are they doing for Mass?
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Perhaps they have been forced to make one of them an Extraordinary Monster 🤬
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2.14
What any believer would do: simply accept the fruits of that first and only Mass 2000 years ago in Palestine.
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Objectively observing the videos on Youtube, one cannot but be of the opinion that there is something eerily weird about that place. It reeks of abnormality in a grotesque manner. Playing religious games and the young 27yo with the robe around his neck. The holier than thou and the fake outpourings of Kirky is quite obvious. It’s a sort of a self-serving project, where I (Kirky) can play being Abbot and surround myself with young handsome men. People, time to wake up from your slumbers and live in the real world, where one has to work for a living. It’s quite obviously a homoerotic playground.
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It’s a very creepy and unbalanced community, with the wandering minstrel in his late sixties surrounded by young men far from home and hanging on his every word and next revelation from the tabernacle.
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10:35. Chalk it down to prioraganda.
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Fr Etienne in Blackpool would normally send a donation, but since most of his parishioners have stopped their standing orders, he needs all the money he can to feed himself and the curtain twitching Parish dodger who lives with him, on a sabbatical to study Canon Law. Yes, the famous Fr Billing 👍
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Is that the same Fr Billing who acted as interviewer of Bishop Campbell for EWTN just before Campbell retired.
His facial expressions and mannerisms seemed ‘strange’.
I’ll leave it at that.
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Yes it was! He’s a Queen and known as the Fat Controller!
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Blackpool, what a dump !
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I hear there is a new gay dungeon in Blackpool called the playroom. It has all manner of depravity. Can Blackpool sink any lower.
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Dry your eyes, 2.09.
Blackpool has a very long way to sink before it reaches the depths the Roman Catholic Church has plumbed.
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It has good bits too!
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The new dark room in Man Bar is amazing!
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Dwayne Gavin, ex-priest of Meath diocese, is back living in Paris as a layman. He was ordained in 2000, and after studies in the Irish College, Rome, he was appointed chaplain to the former Irish College, Paris, which is a sinecure now filled by Mgr Hugh “Cowboy” Connolly.
Dwayne was appointed PP of Slane in 2017, but by the time of the 2018 Meath clerical changes he was MIA. None of that is obvious ever since Meath removed the priest listings from its website.
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Why did he leave?
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I don’t have the answer to that. Maybe Dwayne could give it to you?
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Who’s the blond?
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That’s hot former Ireland rugby star, Ronan O’Gara. His lucky wife is a personal trainer, Jessica Daly, and they have a lovely young family.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/rugby-union/ronan-ogara-wife-jessica-expecting-3104900
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He left Paris to become PP of Slane. I don’t know why he is MIA now
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“Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead.
Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about.”
(G.K. Chesterton)
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11.23
Your post reminds me of what a bloated, arrogant, self-opinionated prick Chesterton was. So thank you for that.
Jesus didn’t share Chesterton’s dewy-eyed abstraction of ancestory; in fact, he excoriated it for its disobedience to God’s law and for its slaying of the prophets: all in all for killing the truth.
And sure isn’t that what our ancestors did? Kill? And with the wild abandon that comes with self-righteousness: on the battlefield in glorious wars, some of them religious; on countless gallows; in churches, with the theocratic destruction of personal conscience; in domesticity itself, with the insistence on maintaing marriages thst were a sham and an affront to God, but not to the men of God; and in those very homes, with the destruction of innocence and faith by kiddie-fiddling priests and religious; and among the People of God, with conspiratorial silence and cover-up.
Yes, the past sure was a lovely place. In Chesterton’s fat head.
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https://biblehub.com/1_thessalonians/5-21.htm
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https://biblehub.com/2_timothy/4-2.htm
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https://biblehub.com/2_timothy/4-3.htm
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You say there were no over 35s but there’s an auld lad with floppy grey hair in choral dress in most of the photos of Silverstream. Is he one of those elderly altar servers or is he a priest?
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That’s Very Reverend Gerard Deighan, a priest of Dublin diocese, chaplain to the Latin Mass community and trustee of Silverstream. He is far too old to be one of the monks and there’s room there for only one silver daddy.
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As a trustee and a nine-bob-note, he must know what was going on at Silverstream.
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@11:47
NO, It’s not Deighan; it’s Fr Michael Cahill who is in all the photos with the monks and he is in Choral dress. Fr Michael cahill diocese of Meath ex Dublin
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Seven years ago, a comment on New Liturgical Movement said: “Br. Tom Forde OFM Cap and two fat friars were able to visit Silverstream Priory during their Chapter in July. Dom Mark and the other brother were very welcoming to us. They live very simply and in great poverty but with obvious enthusiasm for the monastic life.”
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Clogher changes are out! So exciting…….not.
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Where are the Clogher changes, I can’t find them online. Someone here the other day claimed that there would be parish closures and denied that another one of the priests of the diocese was missing.
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Most of them are missing in Clogher……they’ve spent 20 or 30 years in the same parish that they may as well be missing!
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Rev Alex Balzanella, whose ordination Catholic Truth Scotland tried to stop, will be ordained to the priesthood for Westminster diocese on 19 September in Westminster Cathedral.
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🎉🎊🎶🎷🎺🎸🎶
God bless CTS.
LOSERS! 😅
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Let’s face it, if Westminster ordain the likes of the porker Monti then Balzanella stands a pretty good chance of ordination.
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@2.02pm Like Monti they also ordained J P Lyttle too. Despite all the warning signs they still went ahead because they simply don’t care and listen. There are a few future Scottish ordinands too with major alarm bells ringing regarding their suitability.
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Rev Chris Butler, the civil partnership ex-nurse, is due to be ordained a priest this summer for the diocese of Leeds. There’s hope for us all.
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Good for Chris! F..k the begrudgers!
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Deacon Alex is stunning. Love to have a dabble with him.
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Are you stunning ? If not why would he be interested in you ? One way street of the predatory ageing homosexual zzzzzz
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8.07
For Heaven’s sake, would you ever give over? The poster at 7.26 (Do you know for sure that this person is gay?) was paying Alex a compliment.
Five years ago, a young gay man expressed interest in me, and did so respectfully. I was absolutely chuffed, but had to let him know that I wasn’t gay. I did let him know that I was chuffed; he was pleased at that. And thank God for it.
God bless his lovely soul.
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This review of the priory by a young American priest who stayed there shows that they use single beds, not doubles.
🛏️🗝️💰💸💳💶💷💴🚹3️⃣5️⃣
https://goo.gl/maps/mcpmLjhdaMMPNtHm6
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They don’t require double beds if they are double-deckering, do they?
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Double-deckering, that’s what we do at Wonersh. We love it!
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The Discalced Carmelites are handing back St Josephs, Berkeley Road parish to Dublin Diocese after 37 years.
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Isn’t Fr John Hogan of Meath somehow connected to the Carmelites? Wasn’t he also instrumental in Dom Kirby coming to silverstream
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He has OCDS after his name, as does Clogher’s trad, Owen Gorman. I am not sure whether and how that makes them a Carmelite, if it does.
Yes, it’s John Hogan’s fault it came to Meath. The wandering prior was on the lookout for somewhere for he and his young me. Cathy Kirby failed to establish a house in Tulsa in Oklahoma. John Hogan alerted him to the property in Stamullen which was soon to be vacated by the Visitation nuns, whose convent had renewed itself with the inevitable result of being empty, and that was how the priory came to be there.
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John Hogan was with the Carmelites for a while before training for secular clergy with Meath. It’s coincidental that the the person he refused communion to, Robert Troy TD (now a minister of State) is a brother, I think, of the Prior Provincial of the Carmelites in Ireland.
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‘The Monastery advanced the Catholic Faith by a variety of initiatives including prayer…’
And so lionisingly on.
There was one activity the ‘Monastery (sic)’ didn’t engage to advance the ‘Catholic Faith’, and it would have achieved much, much more than the initiatives listed ; in fact, from what we are now hearing about that…place, it was the obvious endgame: self-dissolution.
I honestly believe that the only way to advance the ‘Catholic Faith’ is to abolish the clergy. Utterly.
Such institutions as this ‘Monastery (sic)’ are financial black holes that suck wealth from a general population of gullible fools easily preyed upon by the pious twee of monks and friars.
The history of monasticism is one characterised by corruption of all hues. And what is being said about Silverstream suggests that it has broken no historical moulds.Close the place down, along with the alleged vice.
Come back King Henry VIII and Thomas Cromwell! The world again requires your unique skills to rid it of another outbreak of monastic pestilence.
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Polly at 1:25pm
Polly your morbid interest in the dregs of history is strange, as the first one they would get rid of would be you. Henry VIII and Cromwell would see to it personally that you were burnt on the stake.
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The last time Dwayne Gavin was mentioned he was taking a year to write a book. It must be a terribly long book as that was a few years ago
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Is it a thriller? When old Bill Meaney, a retired priest professor of classics lived in Maynooth after his retirement he kept a diary, and according to those who saw it, it was an explosive account of the decline of that sorry place, which he wanted published posthumously. When he died, Ledwith went up to Bill’s rooms in Dunboyne House and removed the manuscript.
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Fr. David Marsden has been in Silverstream. Follow the breadcrumbs
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… and canned fruits.
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Yeah read his letter about Oscott and be like Longley and Oakley and say it’s all made up …
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Presumably, the land registry will establish if the properties and any land are owned outright by Silverstream or mortgaged, or have been remortgaged by Cathie before her disappearance.
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She hasn’t disappeared, she is on “sick leave” being cared for and looked after until… well, let’s just say, any trial. Presumably.
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”that money was just resting in my account” 😉
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what ever happened to Fr David O’Hanlon? He was on the late late show years ago Fr Iggy and the two went head to head.
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Is David O’Hanlon a friend of Dorothy?
I saw that tete a tete, and O’Hanlon was as camp as an army in the field.
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yes he was very camp, or as my mother would say ”he’s all hands”.
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He is a 51 year old curate. Not many curates have a big Wikipedia page.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_O%27Hanlon
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6.35
Well, not many for making public and absolute jackasses of themselves. In fact, I think O’Hanlon singularly holds that inverse honour.
Well done, David.
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Sorry, David is not a curate. He’s PP of Dysart, Co. Westmeath.
https://dioceseofmeath.ie/dysart/
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I can’t find a recent pic of him online. is he shy
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Pat, have you heard about the PP who they now regard as the patron saint to people during lockdown. He is keeping very modest about it all. Will there be a canonisation I wonder?
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Who is the PP, bet it’s attention seeking Darcy.
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6.38: You’re wrong…It’s Bishop Pat…but there’ll be no canonization. He’s ex Catholic…
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That Italian priest with Covid-19 who gave up his ventilator for use by younger men?
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least. I knew that the RCC would try touse this to their own ends eventually.
It doesn’t matter one, solitary f**k to that evil institution that so many others, mostly health personnel, sacrificed THEIR lives, too, that Covid-19 patients might live.
But what do the lives of non-clerics matter to this kiddie-fiddlin’ corporation of rogues, parasites, and moochers?
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@7.13pm What did you up fool? Tell us. Was it a ventilator by any chance – thought not. So shut your whinging gob.
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Pat, please bring back the ban.
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7:13, you’ve started the drink early this evening. vodka? Wine?
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Could be Fr Sugar Ray as he sang to lots of people online during the lockdown to cheer them up.
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What ever happened to Fr Hinds in meath. He too has disappeared
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He is curate in Duleek and Dunore. Meath should bring back the priest list. That would stop a lot of speculation.
https://dioceseofmeath.ie/donore/
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Has not been seen since after Xmas
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He is cucooning.
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Well now… that’s a story too !
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I think Liitleprick is trying to emulate the likes of Silverstream in Tooting Bec. If I were + Wilson I’d keep any eye on how much is being spent on liturgical fripperies like maniples.
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A maniple or two isn’t going ti bankrupt anyone, is it moron @ 6.46pm. You are fast becoming deranged regarding this person. You are probably pissed as we speak.
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Nobody cares about that priest.
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I’m concerned about Father Littleton, Father Etienne, Father Lyttle and other likeminded traditionalist young clergy because I fear they will condemn the progress taken since the Second Vatican council in favour of turning back the clock to the 1950s… all whilst leading secret double lives. Notice that the first three clergy I name have identical gustapo-style haircuts. What’s that about?
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6.46: If you are a priest, you should consider laicisation. You are evil. Whoever you are, you have a very dysfunctional, drunken, vile and infantilic sexual perversion running deep in your psyche. You are a psychopath. Dangerous. Find a therapist.
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I wonder when he will be found, Bp Pat? All his fag-hags will be crying their eyes out… serves them right!
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Kirby is the type of traddy-fag Patricia McKeever surrounds herself with, Bp Pat, and he’d reel her in hook, line, and sinker with his tabernacle babble. He is what you call a fag-hag’s fag.
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Mrs Corcoran must be feeling very foolish being drawn into his dragnet and now branded a fag-hag… for the rest of her life.
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If I had the misfortune to live in South London I’d turn to drink to take my mind off the stabbing and shooting.
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JPL and Silverstream must be relieved that you have a rota, Pat. Is it back to JPL tomorrow or are you covering Silverstream, or will it be something else?
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I think it has the potential to develop into a good long saga, Bp Pat, like JPL. Hope so.
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the dark evenings are drawing in, and thank God! I can’t stand the heat. Bring on the autumn and winter !
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Nor me.
My only consolation in the heat? I look EVER so good in shorts 😍…judging by the number of men eyeing my well-turned calves. (Erm, the odd woman, too.)
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Is there any connection between Silverstream and the free-sheet “Alive”?
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9:30, go back to bed ya auld wan!
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So there IS, then. 😲
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Another obsessive
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What’s the status of Fr Brian McKevitt OP – long time associate of Alive?
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Big Tom won’t do anything, he likes the boys himself, sure has been in dodgy places himself, well able to keep an eye or two on them!
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Bishop Pat, will there be another installment of this story tonight? I won’t go to bed early just in case there is. It’s the best story you’ve had in a long time.
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9:59, and would you like Pat to read it to you before bed. God love ya
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If the Papal Nuncio has appointed someone from within the Diocese of Meath as Bishop there would never have been as much due diligence. Good man Tom! Up Cork!!
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You’re right. New brooms sweep clean. Clogher was in desperate need of an outsider after the long winter of the Joe Duffy years, but all it got was more insiders. At least we didn’t get either of the grey men O’Reilly or McGuinness.
Meath was another diocese in deep of need of purpose and direction. Tom has done very well so far.
He next needs to do something about Meath being a clerical refugee camp for priests and sems from other dioceses. All the recent departures highlight the failure of Mandy-Rice’s open door policy and refusal for years to have psychological testing of seminary applicants.
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Tom clean up my hat! He has filled the cathedral with pretty boys already and surrounds himself with yes men! Are there any “practicing” bishops in Ireland.
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11:24
But hasn’t he appointed Fr Joseph Gallagher as VG?
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I truly feel sorry for the genuine, God seeking Monks at Silverstream who probably had no idea of what was/is happening. We should pray for them. I have only ever received kindness and hospitality on my visits.
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11:24 pm
“Practicing” what?
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