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US SECRETARY OF STATE CRITICISES POPE FRANCIS OVER CHINA.

MIKE POMPEO US SECRETARY OF STATE

Mike Pompeo Attacks Pope Francis & The ‘Moral Authority’ Of The Vatican Amidst Potential Deal With China

September 19, 2020 Anna Harnes The Inquisitr

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has hit out at Pope Francis following the news that diplomats from the Holy See are meeting later this month with members of the Chinese Communist Party to renew a two-year-old agreement between China and the Vatican.

Though the Middle Kingdom nominally adheres to the principle of religious freedom, it is officially an atheist state and has routinely been accused of cracking down on faith-based organizations.

“Two years ago, the Holy See reached an agreement with the Chinese Communist Party, hoping to help China’s Catholics. Yet the CCP’s abuse of the faithful has only gotten worse. The Vatican endangers its moral authority, should it renew the deal,” Pompeo wrote in a tweet.

In a longer statement published on First Things, Pompeo also criticized the Holy See’s decision to “legitimize” Chinese priests and bishops who were simultaneously involved with the CCP, claiming that they had “unclear” loyalties.

Pompeo cited the plight of Father Paul Zhang Guangjun, who was tortured and has since disappeared after refusing to join the CCP-run Patriotic Catholic Association. Similarly, Bishop James Su Zhimin was arrested in 1997 and last seen in 2003.

The secretary of state also explained the link between religious freedom and protesters in Hong Kong, naming Martin Lee and Jimmy Lai in particular.

Pompeo noted that it is not just Catholics who have suffered under China’s restrictions on religious freedom. He added that credible reports detailed that the minority Uighur Muslim population in the Xinjiang province has been subjected to forced sterilizations, forced abortions, labor camps, and reeducation programs.

As was similarly reported by The Inquisitr, several sources claimed that the Asian nation had started a new program that offered rewards to those who reported home churches in their communities. Bounties on the underground churches have reportedly tallied as high as $14,000.

Pompeo continued his missive with the hope that the Pope would reconsider making an alliance with China, bringing up Catholicism’s power in helping end communism in Eastern Europe and fascism in South America in the 20th century.

Pompeo ended his statement by citing both the leader’s own words as well as the Gospel’s.


“Pope Francis said in 2013 that ‘Christians must respond to evil with good, taking the Cross upon themselves as Jesus did.’ History teaches us that totalitarian regimes can only survive in darkness and silence, their crimes and brutality unnoticed and unremarked,” he wrote.

“I pray that… the Holy See will heed Jesus’s words in the Gospel of John, ‘The truth will set you free,’” he concluded.

PAT SAYS

The Vatican is not undermining its moral authority over the deal with China

WHY?

The Vatican HAS NO MORAL AUTHORITY!

That moral authority has disappeared with:

1. The child abuse scandals.

2. The sexual abuse if nuns by priests.

3. The Vatican is ONE BIG GAY SAUNA.

4. The torture of women in the Magdalen Laundries.

5. The burial of babies in septic tanks.

6. The massive financial scandals.

7. Papal Nuncios feeling up young men.

8. Bishops abbots and monks frequenting gay saunas.

9. Priests fathering and abandoning their children.

10. Seminaries becoming gay knocking shops.

CHINA and THE VATICAN are both alike.

They both run totalitarian states.

They both deny human rights.

China supports political terrorism.

The Vatican supports spiritual and social terrorism.

The Italian Government should revert the 1929 Corcordat making the Vatican an independent state.

The international community should send all Vatican diplomats packing.

100 replies on “US SECRETARY OF STATE CRITICISES POPE FRANCIS OVER CHINA.”

If the state is atheist what’s the logic in going after faith based organisations who are theoretically following an illusion. What’s in it for these so called diplomats. Two year agreement makes no sense from a faith perspective. If the church wants to promote religious freedom it should promote it in the name of all people and faiths of good will. It’s a modern Roman Empire trick. History is repeating itself only now it’s hidden by a smell screen of aftershave

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‘The Vatican endangers it’s moral authority’ – don’t make me laugh.
Just in case any priests are reading this (although you won’t admit it): the cult you serve will throw you under the bus if it suits it, just like the Chinese priest.
It has no moral authority.

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The Vatican hierarchy is devoid of all moral basis, and its purported ethics are drowned in a sea of debunked platitudes; the agendas of which are not of God or His Christ son.
Full exposure from the top to the bottom is happening before our very eyes; it is the only way to obtain accountability and fruitful change.
IICSA is just one momentum in this respect.
Too much has happened and is still happening.

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The RCC doesn’t seem to teach little folks prayer, prudence, discernment or responsibility for each other. Its last chance in England was in 1980 and it’s now clear it has missed that. Religion should not be a matter for the Vatican state and its allies. Promoting pro nuncios to nuncio status (Mrs T’s idea) was a bad idea.
RCC officials seem uneasy about further handling of past wrongs of various kinds (weird money even if sometimes only medium-sized, salacious talk, emotional pressure, abnormal governance) and that makes the public uneasy. Clergy might want to, but their outsourced elbow joggers – whether salaried, or from over-complicated “movements” of the last 100 years – or the many powerful senior archdioceses, might not want them to.
Supreme religious leaders seem to concentrate on delegating goody-two-shoes types (mostly lacklustre) as “representatives” to state bodies. It’s such a shame the RCC didn’t have a spiritual, only a political, strategy.

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Oh dear, + Pat, if they send all the Vatican diplomats packing, there will be no future career path for the newly ordained Father Alex Balzanella to follow, and he could end up in North Harrow, or Watford, or Slough. God forbid !

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Well, there aren’t many Catholics in those parts anymore. Now populated with Indian sub-continent types. The times is a changing…..

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One of the central characters in the development and implementation of Vatican foreign policy is an Englishman – Archbishop Paul Gallagher from Liverpool. He’s the one who was recently in China chatting to the Chinese. I think the main stimulus for this policy with China is somewhat similar to Piux XII during the 2nd WW – their main interest is to protect the Catholic Church in China whatever the cost, and will sublimate any other concerns that they might have if by voicing them they put the Catholic Church and Catholics at risk. Pius XII knew about the evils of Nazism, particularly in respect of the Jews, but never once did he have the courage to call out the Nazis, fearing that there would be a backlash against Catholics in Germany. It’s a policy of looking after your own arse first, and to hell with everybody else. Some call it ‘realpolitik’.

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Archbishop Paul Gallagher is a dead ringer for Dean Hughie Kennedy, don’t you think ? Could it be that Hughie disappeared to Rome and reincarnated as the Vatican’s Secretary for Relations With States ?! Stranger things have happened.
More seriously, I suspect Hugh is still on the north coast living in some dignified comfort. I know a number of clergy who are similarly furloughed, perhaps not the subject of criminal investigation, but with a cloud over them. Without exception, they hang on tenaciously to their identity as priest, saying Mass at home, moving in circles of clerical connections, and generally desperate to maintain that identity. I am surprised, because I imagine that if such a thing were to happen to me – and to which of us could it not happen given the way things are at present – then I would just tell the diocese and Church to fuck off, and make my own way, without having to hang on to an identity that didn’t want to own me any more. I could find lots and lots of things and people to keep me entertained and engaged. Actually, it could be a wonderful life !
I think it is sad when clergy have no other identity or sense of themselves except that of priest. They can never let go, they can never move on, they can never retire. It’s sad that so many of them are unable to realise what else there is about them. It’s part of that clerical culture driven in to clergy that they are special, set apart, unlike the rest of humanity, and have an identity that trumps everything else. Until they get dumped that it is. And even then they tend to hang on to it for grim life. Sad.

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At 10:04 you really should just leave now. If that’s all the priesthood and the Church means to you, you should have the integrity to go and do those “lots and lots of things”. You’re a real disgrace.

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At 11:13 – he’s not honest. If he was honest he would leave. He’s a crass cynic and too indolent to do the decent thing and get out of the priesthood. He will continue to sit on his arse scratching himself, living very comfortably off the church and the people, being crass, cynical and soulless.

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10:32 am No! That is all that priesthood means to Babylon!
Should we not have some balance in our discussions?

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Disgrace ? Why ? For saying it as it is ? I find lots and lots of things to do while being a priest, and am happy with it as it is, for me. But, if I were to find myself like Hughie or others, then I would head off once and for all and find lots and lots of other things to do. And tell the Bishop and the Church to fuck off. I’ve no problem with that. But, for the present I’m content being where I am, ministering as I do, and doing a little bit of good I hope. I am just honest about what I would do in certain circumstances, rather than hanging on plaintively because I’m too sad to have an imagination or a life. The priesthood, the Church, ministry, the clerical world, the presbytery, all of that is not everything about my life. I didn’t swallow all that nonsense about being special. Neither did my friends and family. Thank God.

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Anon@10:04: Perhaps another compelling factor in desperately clinging to a clerical identity may be the lack of any realistic alternative? The “skill-set” of dressing up in fancy vestments and mumbo-jumboing meaningless quaint rituals isn’t much in demand in today’s labour market.
MMM

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You are right MMM. Most clergy who want to move on find that they don’t have many transferable skills. Sadly. So, they are stuck, dependant, tied in to a feudal system that keeps them enchained. So, they just carry on. Probably find a few ways to make life tolerable, like a bit of gay cruising, camping it up, obsessing about vestments, taking refuge in odd behaviours. Sad.

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Anon@11:35: I wonder how much self absorbed projection is involved in your comment?
That I was a seminarian 60 years ago has absolutely no significance for my sense of identity: fact. I have referred to it in this blog site as it is relevant in the context of discussing the limitations of RC clergy as has been so continuously and egregiously manifested by revelations of their disgusting behaviour in +Pat’s blog.
I regard that passage of my life as relevant as, having once been an “insider”, I am therefore aware of just how shallow, inadequate and incompetent is the “training ” of RC clerics. And the reality is that after “graduation” many of these clerics are deluded into believing that their “training” and the “ontological change” of ordination has conferred quasi magical powers of wisdom and knowledge upon them.
I say these things as separate issues quite apart from my conviction that there is no underlying basis of authenticity for the alleged role of RC clerics: their God is an illusionary mythology perpetuated in their own self interest.
I have regularly challenged this blog’s clerics to provide ANY objective proof or evidence for their religious beliefs. So far, in about five years there has been nothing of any worth in response. Ad hominem attacks: attempted deflection: vacuous reliance on personal “faith”, just about sums them up.
Can you do better?
MMM

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I have thought for some time there was much mileage in whether men approach priesthood for the identity and whether a role with such a strong identity would have a risk of attracting those with no other identity, lack of personality and boundaries, etc.

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I often wonder if people would still pay bungs to be in the House of Lords if they dropped the title of ‘Lord’ and got rid of the dressing up and deference and it was called a Senate and met in a modern office in Manchester.

Similarly, how many are attracted to priesthood by the prospect of years of study in agreeable places among fellow gays, followed by titles, dressing up and deference?

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MMM hi sure all religions are people creations of what they believe to be objective reality. Once created these “realities “ become subjective and the property of their owners. Objective reality remains what it is. God is God Jesus is Jesus and those interested in a branded product miss the point (hi)

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10.04: If you are a priest, do the honest thing and leave. It is crap cynics like you sitting on your a**e all day moaning that add further hatred for priesthood. Have some integrity and honesty.

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You have seminary reject written all over you. Tell us where your hateful venom orginates.. Either that or soneone in the Church ha crossed you. Poor ba**a*d you are living with that hatred day in and day out.

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12.57

I am a hater of Roman Catholic priesthood, and I shall do everything in my power to discredit it and to destroy it. You might say it has become my mission in life, and my sphere of operation is the internet. I love my work more than I can express, and my love of it, and delight in it, deepens by the day.

Jesus did not intend Romanist priesthood, and the evidence for this is both historical and current: a bad tree can bear only bad fruit, and the fruit of the tree of Romanist priesthood has invariably been foul-tasting.

However, I must ever be humble, and right now humility requires me to congratulate the priest who posted at 10.04. I rarely do such a thing, because the vast majority of priests in my experience are Christ-betraying parasites, and they deserve nothing but condemnation. Quite frankly, were I to come across a Romanist priest self-combusting in his own indolent and more-than-ample body fat, I should be hard pressed to empty my bladder over him.

But the priest at 10.04? Now there’s a man for whom I’d happily make an exception. Unlike you, he appears grounded in his own, vulnerable humanity, not mired in the bullshit of ontological specialness. Such men do not deepen hatred for priesthood (and you need to listen carefully to this) because I actually found myself, much to my astonishment, warming to the man: to his integrity, his humility, his very ordinariness.

As for you…😡

If you are a priest and I ever come across you self-combusting, know… Know that I shall just pass on by.

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Poor @2:57pm. The best example of someone who, like MMM, lives his whole life as a bitter ex-seminarian and just cannot get over the rejection. So much pathos.

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@4:03: Thank you for giving me the best laugh of today. You eejits just don’t get it! I don’t pity you. I laugh at your presumptuous limitations.
MMM

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4.03

Hah-hah-hah 😅

If the Romanist priesthood were morally respectable and not the slurry pit of debauchery it always has been, there might be truth in your words.

Anyone who left seminary before ordination has a lot to be thankful for, not bitter about.

Imagine belonging to one of the most detested cults in human history, and being globally detested for it.

Imagine sponging off others, especially old dears living on meagre state pensions. The shame of it. What kind of lowlife allows himself such a disgraceful and reprehensible existence? A Romanist priest, that’s who. Devoid of conscience, and therefore of the normal human capacity for guilt and shame.

What nauseating excuses for human beings. For men. 😕

Romanist priesthood has presented differently over the centuries, but it has always remained mutatis mutandis: the creation of men rather than God.

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Yore: Vatican Whistleblower: Disgraced Cardinal McCarrick Served as Envoy for Disastrous Vatican/China Deal
Elizabeth Yore 4 Jun 2019.

The former secretary to Cardinal Theodore McCarrick just released portions of emails revealing McCarrick’s extensive travel to and negotiations with the Chinese Communist government on behalf of Pope Francis.

These astonishing whistleblower allegations are detailed on a new website titled Figueiredo report. Msgr. Anthony Figueiredo, now stationed in Rome, had access to extensive McCarrick emails and correspondence describing the global diplomatic travel by the disgraced Cardinal to China and the Middle East. Throughout the first four years of the Francis papacy, McCarrick communicated extensively and directly with Pope Francis regarding his negotiations with the Chinese.

For More See: https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2019/06/04/yore-vatican-whistleblower-disgraced-cardinal-mccarrick-served-as-envoy-for-disastrous-vatican-china-deal/

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‘Follow the Path of Truth Wherever it May Lead’
By Monsignor Anthony J. Figueiredo
“It is my firm hope that this information will help the Church as she further endeavors to create a culture of transparency. This report, which may form the first of others, is a contribution to the wish of Pope Francis and the Holy See “to follow the path of truth wherever it may lead” in terms of the ongoing McCarrick investigation”.
See: http://thefigueiredoreport.com/

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Is the Uncle Ted/China connection one of the reasons the Most Humble Pope Ever is holding up the release of the McCarrick report?

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I’m surprised there hasn’t been knee-jerk reaction in the comments to dismiss Pompeo’s remarks on the basis of he being a Trump appointee.

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Cardinal Joseph Zen, former bishop of Hong Kong, has also been highly critical of Pope Francis over this agreement, saying it was incredible, will damagie evangelization in China, as well as a betrayal of the underground Chinese Catholic Church.

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JESUIT NOVICIATE MANRESA BIRMINGHAM

+Pat have you heard the noviciate in Birmingham is moving to St. Mary’s College Oscott?

Is it because the building is not sufficient for the huge number of novices at only 1 from Ireland? There was 4 and three have made first vows and so now its 1. I thought oscott was a diocesan seminary?

Maybe there will be strange goings on in Oscott.

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There already are strange goings on in Oscott, and have been for many a year, both students and staff. You don’t need to turn over many pebbles to find the shenanigans that take place in Oscott. Not that it’s any different to any of the other English, Scottish or Irish seminaries in various places. Seminary per se is always going to be a strange construction, and will always exhibit strange goings on.

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Any word on if the Paisley fag has reached Rome? Word on street is he was nowhere to be seen at the weekend when they all arrived back

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1.34: MMM – 60 years ago makes you ancient and completely out of touch. I studied in the 70’s – a much different time to your era. I wasn’t contaminated with any sense of superiority or with a sense of being different to or better than anyone else. You are just being plainly offensive, condescending and smart. Methinks you are a piss drunk beer swizzler….as each day goes by you become more offensive. Move beyond your bigoted cynicism. As an OAP, go out and do a bit of gardening, now that the North is in new restrictions with covid. And if you are to comment on church matters as an atheist, do a little research or reading before commenting theologically or philosophically. You are tiresome in your repeat observations.

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Kinda gettin to ye: is he 3.18?
And like he says, your comment is no answer or explanation. Just a crappy attack on him. Sounds like he has you and your lot well summed up.

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4.18: I suspect you belong to the same school of attackers and haters as MMM – or perhaps you too are an OAP – with nothing much to do. MMM or your type will never deter me from my commitment nor will your repeat ugly sentiments break my beliefs or principles.

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More ageist hate speech at 5:07. I agree with 4:18 – MMM and hence everyone else here has you well sussed.

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Is their any good reason why an Anglican, Kieran Sparling, who thinks Last Night of the Proms is great and who is a member of the “Church of Ireland” Board of Education, is head of boarding at Glenstal Abbey school? I cannot imagine a Catholic being made head of boarding in a Protestant school. Thank God the OSBs have no vocations.

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Perhaps they couldn’t find a Roman Catholic who both wanted the job and didn’t have a clerical, sorry, criminal record.

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2.57: What a marvellous ecample of moral cowardice and spiritual impoverishment. You needn’t worry about priests. Just stay hating. It would, of course, be more admirable, noble and honest if you didn’t hide behind Pat’s blog as anonymous and had the moral integrity to say you are MC, of old! You have proved yourself to be the epitome of ugly, abusive rhetoric. You are the proverbial lost one, strayed, twisted with anger. The many unresolved psychological problems you carry make you very unlikable. I, on the other hand, much to your disgust, give gratitude to God for priesthood. Yes, I imagine you are crooked and bent with self loathing and fury at being denied such, but you shouldn’t be jealous or exist with rsge. I condemn your pathetic, bullying immaturity but I will pray that you find God and allow him to heal you. As for emptying your bladder – it must be a 24 hour mission with you, considering the after midnight “goings on” in your life which leave you footless!! Somehow I don’t believe you can leave your house for long enough to dump your urine anywhere but the pissoir. Allow me a little humility: you will never ever know the huge contribution I have made in many areas of ministry of education…ever. I enjoy all the wonderful moments of priesthood and have been personally renewed and transformed by the challenges and the imperative of needing to create a different vision so as to be a more CHRIST focused person. There are, of course, times when, in the presence of satan types – you – I raise my voice.

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Another nice comment. Actually I love this priest’s comments-they typify the poison dwarf nature of the priesthood.
And in case you’re going to claim not to be a priest: 🤮

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4.35
It’s a very old cliché, but you really cannot serve two masters; and you, priest, chose which master you preferred to serve on the day you were ordained. And it wasn’t Christ.
No; your focus is the Romanist Church, and its unjust laws, through the profession of obedience, not to the God-man, but to a corruptible man in a mitre and, through him, to a corrupted, morally rotted institution that has disgraced itself in Heaven as well as on Earth.
Even the demons are aghast at your collective sin.
If ever there were an act crying to Heaven for vengeance, it is your very existence as a priest in a priesthood that Jesus did not intend while serving an institution that has committed, over and over, in practically every century of its worthless being, the sin for which Jesus himself prescribed the only just punishment: being weighted with a millstone, and ingloriously being dropped into a deep sea.
All I get from your post is monstrous arrogance, priest. You have learned nothing from the nature of the foul beast you chose to serve all those years ago.
As for being in the presence of Satan, you have never been out of his company since the day you allowed yourself to be ordained for service to his mistress on Earth: the institutional Roman Catholic Church.

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6.45: Mafs, you haven’t a clue about the quality of my commitment as a priest. You can huff and ouff all you like but the ad nauseam repetitive core message you post is motivated by a deep hatred of priests. That is very sad. You are a broken man. We know your history from Maynooth and subsequent to you being fired. You haven’t changed your rhetoric – except now you post as anonymous. How full of moral cowardice is that? We cannot be fooled. I have a small bit of pity for you. I know if you didn’t have the forum of this blog, your life would be less meaningful, relevant and deeper in misery. So, I’ll be kind to you, Mags!! You are in my prayers, always. 🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏…night, night..

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8.01
Oh, the delicious irony! 😀
One ‘Anonymous’ telling another ‘Anonymous’ that he is a moral coward for posting…anonymously. 😲
I don’t know about any others, but YOU could be fooled everytime, anytime. You can even fool yourself. 😅

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Pompeo talking about moral authority? This man is a war-mongering monster who supports a malevolent retard in the White House. It’s like quoting Ribbentrop to condemn the crimes of Stalinism.

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The Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang Province are held in concentration camps (reeducation camps) – outside of any legal process and a clear breach of International Law – the Killing Fields of Cambodia and the concentration camps of the Third Reich spring to mind – Human Rights organisation suggest 1.3 million Muslims are held in these camps – their ‘crime’ being Muslim and practising their faith – what goes on here? Torture? Murder? Human Right abuse? Why on God’s earth are the Vatican not raising their voice on behalf of the Uighur Muslims and insisting that their human rights and religious freedom be respected? Archbishop Gallagher is trained in the dark arts of Foreign Diplomacy where political and financial expediency are paramount and pleasing their master (Head of State) compels them except Archbishop Gallagher serves a Master who said “as you do to these little ones you do into me” and who hears the cry of the poor and oppressed who cry out to him day and night. Pope Francis and Archbishop Gallagher are on a very dangerous road and the world is watching – Pius XIi is remembered as Hitlers Pope for keeping stum – Pope Francis might be remembered as the China Pope for the same reason.

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4.43
Insist on respecting the human rights of the Uighur muslims? I’ll think about it when muslims start respecting the human rights of gay people and women.

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Why would anyone help those who persecute others in the most brutal ways?
Had history allowed you to time-travel and you had met a wounded Adolf Hitler, would you have helped him knowing what he would do to Jews and others?

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R.C.THEOLOGICAL MYTHOLOGY. (‘specially for you @ 5:01)
Jiggery Pokery make-believe.
Theological crap designed to deceive.
Like fairy tales, and little elves
the silly sods believe it themselves.
I s’pose when a brain is wired to its belly
explains why they quiver and quake, just like jelly.
For clerical privilege, all on the make
will soon disappear; all of it fake.
Their cushy life, is about to depart.
Like their cherished church, an ephemeral fart.
’twill soon disappear, along with its smell
of greed and abuse, to their make-believe Hell.
Away with you all, your abuse and your greed.
You will not be missed. I wish your “God” speed!
MMM

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Not at all. You are deliberately putting a homophobic interpretation on my post.
If you want me to verbalise it it’s more like nonconsensual sex and double lives.
Now apologize.

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Jimmy Saville was a nonce. In the photo he was shown with two children, who as such would be at risk. No one has accused KOB of being a paedophile. He was known to be gay. Why would you put him with Jimmy Saville and children unless you are saying that he’s like Jimmy Saville and basing that on KOB being gay. You are saying that Saville and KOB are the same. Any other interpretation put forward by you when challenged is sophistry.

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7.34
And a silly non-response, your post.
Now that we know how you feel, why not tell us what you object to in my comment?
As for reading the gospels, again why? What is your point?
Pointless posts are just that, pointless.

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4.43pm And the Catholic Church has such a glowing record for upholding the human right of women and gay people – forget quid pro quo – holding human beings in concentration camps, regardless of their race, religion, gender or orientation is a repeating of a dark history if ever there was one and yes the Vatican not only should insist they should resist this rapprochement with a regime with such an appalling human right record – but you know maybe your right they will once the Muslims start treating women and gays better!!!

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8:48 pm

If you are so clueless of the central message of the gospel as well as morally stunted illustrated in your initial remark at 5:04 pm it is a pointless exercise responding to such a level of spiritual blindness. I hope you are not in ministry or in seminary ‘ formation.’

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See here’s the thing. Some men are brought up RC. They even may think they have a ‘vocation’ to the priesthood and pursue it as far as seminary.
Once they get on the other side of the counter they see it for the bike empty charade it is, and leave because they are above that, to make a successful path in the world.
The comments bitching at MMM are from people who should be far more concerned about the men who make the same realisation but don’t leave. Whether this is because they want a cushy number, want a cover for illegal sexual urges, or whatever, these are the ones you should be bothered about.
But you don’t do you, because you are those shiftless wasters yourself, jealous because you couldn’t leave and now can’t.

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5.43: What makes you draw such untruthful, nasty conclusions? Could it be that you are an ex seminarian or an ex priest or just a disgruntled, narky priest? After almost 44 years of ministry, I will admit that I feel very challenged in the present situation of our Church and priesthood. Overall, I’ve been very fulfilled but I find it very difficult to have the same enthusiasm or strength I once had. Much has changed irrevocably. It is natural that any person, irrespective of profession, reaches a point where they feel less enthusiastic and committed. Age and health are important factors. Priests are no different. To be truthful, I often wish I could retire and offer my ministry without the responsibilities I presently have. Maybe it’s because I grew up in a time and in a family where the ethic of work was deeply instilled in us, to the point where we were not allowed to be idle. To countenance retiring now does not sit well with what I grew up with. I struggle to keep going. I face each day as best I can. I have been blessed but now I have different emotions and feelings, especially in light of past and present scandals in the church. It is possible to remain true to your inner convictions, vision, beliefs and “gospel ministry” in the face of much criticism, contempt, ridicule and judgment, as posted here, much of which is justified. I know many colleagues, 65 – 80, still working as best they can, but who also profoundly question the concept of church and priesthood. We may be beaten down by criticism but we do not give up. I could have left in my 30’s when I had grave misgivings and was sufgiciently qualified to work professionally in education or counselling. I got through and I am glad to have done so.

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11:36 pm
The evasive one is you projecting your evasiveness. Try to view the world from a lens other than that of political correctness. Your attitude towards suffering human beings is appalling exemplifying ignorance on a number of levels.
Your attitude towards suffering humanity is certainly not Christian illustrating arrested moral development.

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The blog seems to be full of deranged ex-seminarians today, though is there any other type? Every ex-sem I’ve met has been a total melter.

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I wonder how many you’ve met? But then, perhaps you don’t get out much.
Would you have successfully debated this opinion with John Hume RIP.? He spent a while in Maynooth before getting wise to the whole sham.
Or maybe I misunderstand what a “melter” is, since RC clerics are also “ex-sems”

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The visit of Dom Richard Purcell OCSO to Fr John Walsh OP during Fr Walsh’s recent retreat in Glencairn including the time spent in each other’s company does not reflect badly on either of them. It’s a free country where citizens enjoy freedom of association.

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7. 18pm Stop this you Muppet, yes it is possible to have friends. You will know that the nuns in Glencairn are Cistercian Your mind is in the sewer.

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John Hamill is a militant athiest, anti-Catholic hypocrite from the bogs of Monaghan who sends his child to a Catholic school.

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Dear Bishop
you posted yesterday about my old school and I thought about it all last night.
In the comments eg at 12.34 a “catholic” writes ” Pat, I never cease to be amazed at the healing power of cash compensation, Truly miraculous”.
Another . 4 minutes later agrees ” A cheque never offends”
Then followed a lot of whataboutery ; sue arent anglicans and social workers just as bad?
Can I assure your readers that when that headmaster held me down and raped me 40 years ago that future compensation from the Church was not perhaps uppermost in my mind. I have meter sought compensation but applaud those who do. the endless apologies achieve nothing, hitting them in the wallet might.
I have relatively little interest in what anglicans or social workers get up to. I do not understand the constant mockery of Mourne Michael for once having gone to a seminary and of being a retired social worker.
My priest headmaster was evil but he was enabled to be evil by his bishop and by his priest colleagues
Please continue to shine a spotlight on the institution

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Dr. Richard Sipe has expertise in matters clerical particularly concerning celibacy and clerical sexual abuse.

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