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THE WESTMINSTER SUCCESSION – A VIEW FROM ANGLO IRISH ROME.

Anglo Irish Rome writes……


If the mood is grim at Westminster Cathedral Clergy House (which it is) don’t start me on Archbishop’s House next door.

A recent visitor told me that it had “all the charm of Hitler’s Bunker in April 1945”! A casual visitor from Clergy House (if he could get in – the first thing Elsie did upon arrival was to change all the codes on the locks, at Mother Wragg’s insistence, mind you) would find the elderly inhabitants downcast.

Mother Carmel has not been at all well recently, even though she succeeded, after months of bickering and whining into Vinny’s ear, in having Bishop Mark Jezebel hoofed out from under her feet and dispatched back to his monastery without so much as a “goodbye”.

She grew to see him as a threat, for some reason.  

Martha and Elsie


The Archbishop is lachrymose! Like all the inhabitants of Ambrosian Avenue, all but one of whom have been carried out the door feet first in a box, perhaps he has come to see that his time is up and that soon he will be a footnote in the history books and remembered for his shambolic performance on that stand at IICSA.

He has never recovered his pep, and the man described as “Tony Blair in a cassock” has for the past two years lost his sureness of touch.

This also explains the hapless appointments that he has made and the disastrous mishandling of the bullying and intimidation suffered by the former Master of Music, Martin Baker – a talented, if someone touchy, maestro who was literally hounded from his position by the alpha male headmaster of the choir school.

Martin Baker


Recently Vincent has been sharing how much he is looking forward to his retirement in November and how he hopes the Holy Father will let him go.

I can tell you that his priests are counting the days. There is certainly no love lost between them and the man who was supposed to be their “Father in God”.

Perhaps they knew that at the first hint of trouble they would be thrown under the bus without a hearing, something that has happened to one senior priest within the last month. Oh, shall we hear him sing again?


That brings us neatly to the name on everyone’s lips. Martha Roach! 

Best Dressed Bishop Award

Now what a case we have there.So convinced that he is that he will be succeeding Elsie he has already had his minions in to measure the windows for new curtains, (best Roman damask, naturally)!

His ascent to the archepiscopal throne seems assured. He is a great friend of the current Pope, and if anyone doubts his influence just look at the meteoric rise of his apprentice and fellow Leeds diocesan John Wilson, who was appointed as Archbishop of Southwark two years ago at the tender age of 50.

Elise didn’t see that “Exocet” coming, even though he sits on the Congregation for Bishops. How could he as Wilson’s name was not on any Terna and he was appointed directly by Papa Bergoglio on the recommendation of Martha, who is the pope’s point man in the never ending “war” with Divine Worship and the strange (to say the least) Cardinal Sarah, no friend of the current pontiff.

Sarah

Roche, of course was manoeuvring his own man into position, in order to assure his own succession to north of the Thames.

It remains to be seen if this epitome of Roman wheeling and dealing achieves his longed-for home in Westminster.

His naked ambition has distressed many, and on the way up he has made enemies.

Perhaps with the very public beheading of Cardinal Beccui, Papa Bog-roll-io may not be eager to appoint a man who has, at least, been alleged to have bankrupted his diocese not one, but twice?

Beccui

The first time (he had been bishop’s secretary then) he was packed off to Rome for “further studies”.

Then he did little studying, but plenty of smooching around anything in red or purple that could possibly notice and promote him – and it worked.

I suppose that’s the way it has always been done? Not so easy to explain though was his close friendship with a certain student who went on to be ordained for a diocese in the land of dragons, even though he was as English as Martha. That didn’t end well (for the priest, that is).

The greasy joe Italian rector of the seminary took the wrap for that fiasco, and Martha got the hat that Truffles was so sure was heading his way.

Now that’s a story that needs telling one day.

PAT SAYS

Our Anglo Irish Rome correspondent is steeped in the knowledge of Westminster matters.

Could Martha Roach (aka Cock Roach) get Westminster at the age of 70 with just 5 years to serve?

Maybe?

It seems to me that Westminster is imploding.

Elsie is going downhill fast and it seems Elsie’s departing gift to the clergy is to piss them off as much as possible by handing over all the crown jewels to the Ex Anglicans and the Neocats.

This is Elsie’s final two fingers to the Westminster clergy.

Mother Wragg is unwell too and seeking to dump on everybody as well.

Cardinals Nichols and Wragg

Hence the eviction of their lodger Bishop Jabale, formerly of Menevia.

Jabale

There is also the rumour that a Neocat altar and a Neocat immersion pool may appear at the cathedral?

95 replies on “THE WESTMINSTER SUCCESSION – A VIEW FROM ANGLO IRISH ROME.”

It will be the crypt that will be used there is no reason why their square table and uterus shaped font can’t rest on the floor without any need for English heritage to be involved. It’s a real pact with the devil for money.

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I have fond memories of NC communities in Croatia ringing in the great resurrection of the Christ with this song. If only all churches were this joyful.

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Extreme alterations?😕 Nothing so extreme as a total demolition of that Temple to Romanism.

’tis an exceedingly holy thought. 😇

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Vincent Nichols reminds me of other comically ambitious characters such as Gordon Brown, John Major, Leo Veradkar and Boris Johnson who schemed, fretted and sulked their way the top job, only to discover when they got there that they were shit at it, and finding that the skillset for climbing the greasy pole was different from what was needed to do well in the job itself.

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I have do see what you mean but I am sure you will agree that Archbishop of Westminster was not really where Elsie was aiming for and also that she wouldn’t see the ‘job’ as something to be done well as a service. Elsie serves herself and everything else is merely a step in that direction.

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I met Vincent Nichols in Wood Green parish hall in the days when he called himself the Bishop of North London. His long years of pastoral inexperience, due to being a desk priest, were evident in how he behaved – looking over people’s shoulders when they were talking, looking very bored, and very flat and miserable.

A few years later I saw him at a book launch at the bookshop next to Westminster Cathedral. A harmless, homeless man had made his way in, perhaps attracted by the heat, wine and nibbles. He interrupted Vincent’s speech in a small way. Well, the volcanic eruption from Vincent was something to behold and I thought if he is like this in public with people watching, what must a private bollacking be like?

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As ever, the carry on in Westminster entertains.
It’s hard to find a photo of WC Clergy House. The building you show is the former Friary of the Atonement, where Fr Michael Seed lived. The Catholic Central Library was there too. It was bought recently by the WC Choir School, for £13m, for use a pre-preparatory school for rich kids. The new Head sees the Choir School as a posh fee-paying London school, with a choir attached, rather than the choir being its chief purpose, and the rich kids an add-on.
Talk about a preferential option for the non-poor.

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He was deported to Cardiff for… well, let’s just say, a little financial embarrassment. Not the like seedy Kathy Kirby, thousands rather than alleged millions.

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I am inclined to agree with 10:53. There was, let’s say, a certain gaiety – in the best sense of joyfulness – to those days, and, at least, none was ex-Anglican. I hope all the boys from the legendary summer of love have found happiness and fulfilment. The situation in Westminster is just sad and pathetic, and cannot even raise a laugh or the pretence of being shocked. MJB had character and style unlike London’s lace queens – in fact that seems normative now in all UK dioceses: twats!

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Yes, there was a wonderful fin de siècle aspect to the Maynooth summer of love and a boisterousness about them. They knew it was too good to be true, so they decided to enjoy it while it lasted. The abbots and ex-Anglicans are a bit too earnest.

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Holywood should make a move about the summer of love. Who’d play Gorgeous, Marshall, the mad puck goat and the trolly dolly?

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10.53: You obviously possess a vacuous, empty, shallow and brainless head. Go to your local gay sauna, you thick idiot.

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Dear Pat. You celebrated Mass recently for my Brother In Law Sergio who had Covid 19 and The Famiky and I thank you sincerely. He had a massive stroke and brain bleed and he was taken off Life Support Today. Please Pray for our Family at this difficult time. Many Thanks to all for the Prayers.

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Begorra St Paul would have a field day – altar to a kat and a jak Oozie baptism/paddling pool. Sure tis like the colosseum before the Roman co council got their gloves on it

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They are a Church within a Church, as are Opus Dei.

I had the cheek one Saturday night to attend the neo-cat Mass in Ogle St. I was made to feel most unwelcome. They sat round a huge square table, members of the group stood up after the homily and accused themselves of various sins. Communion was in the form of a batch loaf broken up and passed round, and it ended with them linking arms and doing a vigorous dance of the type and with the music typically seen at Jewish weddings.

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You will be made to feel very welcome to come to the vigil at St Charles Borromeo now. It’s a very welcoming community.

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@11.30
It’s the closest rite to the early church. The tridentinist rite is heretical.it isn’t biblical.

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8.37, 11.16, deliberate eccentricities in ceremonials is a decoy. Just wait till you can figure out the dynamics after being talked into not dropping out after 28 years of having had non-core business run by you, and still no teaching in prayer. If all you thought religion was is a ceremony you are on the back foot before you start.

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8.37 So much for Canon Law Hi Ha he haw. Is it Strictly come Praying, Paying, Gaying or something else.

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11.30

Nonsense, Bella. It’s closer in form to the Last Supper than the baroque liturgies you prefer.

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Cardinal Nichols is also well known to have a rather unusual domestic relationship with Mother Carmel Wragg who began working for him as his diary secretary when he was Archbishop of Birmingham.

When Nichols moved to Westminster Mother Wragg moved with him and now, with another nun, looks after the Cardinal’s domestic arrangements.

Mother Wragg enraged fellow Archbishop’s House resident Sr Carmel (aka the Grim Reaper and CMOC’s friend) when went round saying that when she and Nichols moved in the house was filthy and she had to throw out curtains and bed linen.

At big cathedral events she is shown to a front seat. She was ripping one time when she overhead someone in the congregation say, “Ah look, that must be the Cardinal’s mother”.

When Nichols was made a cardinal she accompanied him to Rome and was photographed donning the cardinal’s biretta, as shown in today’s blog. They both want that photo suppressed.

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I’ve got a daring theory that they might not mind about the hat, though I suspect almost the whole of the rest of the spiel rings true-ish. Weren’t they both brought up in the unsuperstitious era when the Boxing Day week “clergy revue” was a commonplace performance, and this kind of lark was its staple (and the only time anyone saw a biretta), and they’d have been in the forefront of their elders – not omitting betters – seeing the light hearted side of it.

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Why are there so many Church people with unfortunate names and titles? There’s the Bishop of Gaylord, there’s a real Bishop Brennan, D&C has a Fr Brendan Smyth, and now there’s Mother Wragg.

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That guy was mentally unbalanced, like you. He was an hysteric and probably as queer as a laughing lion and a roaring hyena.

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I think Anglo-Irish may have a problem themselves. Always so quick to hit out at the former anglicans and neo-cat imports whilst the pot is black. This is hilarious as it is so right on various characters and so wrong as to qualify for a fiction award on others. Haha!

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Unlike the +Aul Doll who has another seventeen-years to sit on her chrysanthemum throne and mince around Armagh in damasks.

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What Burke (relatively) sadly hasn’t realised yet is that since recently, there isn’t “holy communion”. But strongly in his favour, IMO, is that he pulled out of the Bannon-Harnwell outfit.

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I hope Biden tells these self-aggrandising old queens where to step off.

Present yourself for communion, Joe, because Jesus presented himself for you on the Cross.

The Eucharist is JESUS’ food for ALL of us; it does not belong to that arrogant old pantomime dame, Burke, nor is it within his gift to withhold from anyone.

I am sick to the back teeth of hypocritical Romanists deciding, like the Victorians, who is, and who is not, deserving. Good manners prevents my saying what I really would want done with Burke, and his like.

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2:44pm

What a cheek from an ould queen like you, to castigate His Eminence Raymond Cardinal Burke for legitimately calling out Biden a supporter of abortion and other aberrations. I’m sick to death of hypocritical liberals who think anything goes. Good manners prevents me from saying what I would really want done with you and your likes.

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Wrong again, and as usual, Bella.

Joe Biden does not support abortion BUT A WOMAN’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE. I know it would be asking a giant intellectual step for you to appreciate the nuance here, so I shan’t ask.

If Burke is calling out Biden as pro-abortion, then he is a liar. But lying is something Romanists do routinely, these Christ-deniers.

Jesus gave himself on Calvary for EVERYONE, none excepted. And he continues to give himself for everyone in the Eucharist, NONE EXCEPTED.

How dare that clerical drag queen, Burke, try to deny Jesus to anyone!

The Romanists are not the possessors of Christ.

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6:32pm
No Polly you’re wrong as usual, your mind is so destroyed by the gargle and your hatred of The One True Church that any intellect you ever had is gone. Clergy have the right to deny Holy Communion to any public sinner like Binden who is forever going on about how he is a Catholic yet continually supports behaviour that is not in conformity with Church teaching. Your constant insults to your betters is a sign of what a lowlife you are.

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I wonder what the story is about Jabale leaving AB House in Westminster ? An early clean out in preparation for Vin’s impending retirement ? They are good friend, Vin and Jabale. Holiday buddies etc. Along with the nun. God help Jabale if he’s had to go back to Belmont, though ! Another Benedictine monastery with all sorts of skeletons, no doubt, in the cupboard.

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I’m not sure the nun did flower arranging. She can barely cook, I hear. Anyhow, it will be interesting to see if she moves to Chiswick when Vin retires. I doubt if she will want to return to the convent mother house in Selly Park. Jabale does good flowers. They are all getting on now, so I suppose they do need to think about arrangements for retirement and their last decade or so. Everybody deserves some peace and rest and to be comfortable in their old age. I’m sure Vin has made plans for him and the nun.

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I think Belmont is better than most EBC monasteries. They have had one scandal of abuse by a former monk.
Some of the monks are as camp as tits though.

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Well, what’s left of the Downside community might have to get used to moving in there in very much reduced circumstances. No more white-coated waiters on hand to bring your breakfast egg. And as for those rather horrid buildings, my dear Dom … no abiding city.

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Childish and immature of me, I know, but the supposed pic of Elsie’s caravan made me hoot. Re the last few Archbishops of Westminster, nobody expected much of CMOC, but the reputations of both Hume, and Elsie – in whom, as with Tony Blair, high hopes were mistakenly placed – have crashed in recent years. On the other hand, thank God, John Carmel Heenan is regarded in a far more positive light than he was when that phoney Basil took over.

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Yes, it is a hoot, almost worthy of a guffaw.

I’ve seen better workmen’s portable toilets.

But it does suggest (suggest, mind😕) the utter humility of His Eminence.

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Elsie’s house looks like an old ‘turn’ of-the-entury water utilities pump station, the ones’ you see in cities lol.
https://images.app.goo.gl/fKJYCju6bHLRxfy38
“The original Abbey Mills Pumping Station, in Mill Meads, East London, is a sewage pumping station, designed by engineer Joseph Bazalgette, Edmund Cooper, and architect Charles Driver. It was built between 1865 and 1868.” Source: WiKipedia.com.uk
… It processes crap so might as well be, so take your pick 😂 🤣

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Not sure that Roche’s ascent to the archepiscopal throne is “assured”. He is 70, which is a bit old for appointment to a major metropolitan see.

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I’m surprised in all this talk of Anglo-Irish relations nobody has mentioned David Brough from the Archdiocese of Dublin. Wasn’t one of his summer assignments folding the undergarments of a previous AB of Westminster and accessing the inner reaches of Ambrosian Avenue?

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Or mystery man Patrick O’Rourke, a D&C deacon (a real one) who, after a summer in Westminster Cathedral, switched to Westminster and was ordained by CMOC, only to go MIA and never be heard from again.
Ah, David Brough. He had a lovely voice when he was in the Maynooth college choir.

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Sacred Heart, Horseferry road chapel of ease to Westminster Cathedral is to be closed in December as part of cost cutting at the Cathedral.

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Holywood should make a move about the summer of love. Who’d play Gorgeous, Marshall, the mad puck goat and the trolly dolly?

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Gorgeous could be played by Bert from Sesame Street, Marshall by Jonny Vegas, Puck by Christopher Biggins and the Trollers Dollers by Julian Clary.

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It will be either + Wilson of Southwark or + Stock of Leeds to replace Vinnie. Both a bundle of fun. Not. But serious and weighty. There is nobody else. Except + Longley of Birmingham, but I don’t think he would want the hassle. He likes a quiet life, God bless him..+ Moth of A&B would hope to go back to his home diocese of Southwark if Wilson moves north of the river. Anyhow, who would want to take on any of those jobs ? Must be mad to want them. Just putting up with shit and complaints, and now at Westminster Cathedral a Polish Neo Cat .

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+John Keenan is a favourite of the Nuncio and although Scottish, don’t rule him out. He hangs about Westminster Cathedral often

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He who goes into the Conclave as Pope leaves as a Cardinal!!
He who enters the race for Archbishop of Westminster as a dead cert leaves as a dead in the water!!
Paddy Power has Elsie for Pope at 20/1
Hume was a wild car/rank outsider/
God of surprises or Arthur Roche no surprises?
Stock, Arnold, Wilson must be really pleased their names are being mooted on this blog!!
Never was the phrase poison chalice more appropriate!!
May the worst man win!! They always do!!

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….its reputation for being a cesspool.
He and Frankie won’t share anything – at least not anything Argentinian. Frankie is eager to forget he’s from there.

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