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THIS WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT WEEK FOR MONASTIC IRELAND.

The Abbot General of the Cistercians has been given an ultimatum to sort out the Mellerary/ Purcell situation by the early part of this week.

Otherwise the matter will be referred to the state authorities to examine and investigate.

There is absolutely no suggestion that Pursie ever engaged with minors.

But the care of minors is not the only matter that is the responsibility of the state and its agencies.

There are other boundaries that are of interest to the state.

And in 21 st century Ireland the Church is held accountable by the state in a way it was not held accountable before.

One interesting matter is that priests are “mandated reporters” – in other words – priests are bound to report anything in the very wide area of the safeguarding of minors and vulnerable adults.

THE MONASTERIES

I have known for a very long time about the sexual misbevioyr problems involving diocesan, secular clergy.

More recently I have become aware of similar problems in religious orders like the Dominicans and Redemptorists.

The English Benedictines have been famous for a long time for their gay-ity.

Bur I have always thought of monks like the Cistercians and Carthusians of having very little of these problems.

But I have now come to realise that there is a big problem in many monasteries, even in Holy Ireland.

The current ones in the spotlight are Mellerary, Silverstream and Glenstal.

Lugs and Dickie

There is seriously effort going into protecting people.

https://m.facebook.com/GlenstalAbbey/videos/689189305308116/?refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2F179315358768345%2Fposts%2F3740440442655801%2F&_rdr

This is because the one they are protecting has information about many others – and if he falls so will others.

But the boil of corruption must be lanced.

BISHOPS

This issue will also bring certain bishops mid field too.

96 replies on “THIS WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT WEEK FOR MONASTIC IRELAND.”

So Mr. Buckkey and Mr. Hourigan are asking state authorities to set the Gardai on the monks all because some of them are/may be gay. There are no serious chikd safeguarding issues. You are both engaging in a trial by media. What, please tell us, precidely are the issues for authorities? If Child abuse – definitely call the civil authorities but what other issues are there?

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Dark hidden secrets in Killaloe. A tragic horror story. An unplanned pregnancy and termination. Its amazing the spell a Music Student can place on a Seminarian.

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A heterosexual sememarian, how exotic, or, maybe he was a homosexual sememarian under the spell of a music student? Perhaps he was under the influence of Devils Breath?

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It would be interesting to know if Fintan offered this young lady any support structures such as counseling . It wouldn’t be hard to walk into her on the South Campus.

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Below is an extract of my e-mail to the Abbey General of the Cistercians of the Strict Observance, Dom Eamon Fitzgerald, OCSO.
Yesterday, I had a conversation with an individual, who believes his brother was sexually acquainted with the current Abbot of Mount Melleray from Grindr. It is all good evidence that supports the affidavits that are currently being reviewed. The Diocese of Killaloe does not emerge positively. Additionally, there has been another bizarre development.
Again, if Dom Richard Purcell wishes to have rampant consensual sex with men and/or women and/or to spend as much time as he likes at the Boilerhouse in Dublin and/or any other institution; he is free to do so, but not as a monk, priest, and as Abbot of Mount Melleray Abbey.
Of course, if Richard Purcell had any decency/integrity would resign as abbot; but, that does not come as a great surprise in light of what is emerging about Purcell’s behaviour.
The longer Purcell remains as abbot of Mount Melleray Abbey, it is clear Fr. Eamon, the current, Abbot General, is tacitly complicit in an on-going cover-up in the naïve and quixotic hope, this will go away. But, it is not going to go away, because both men fail to appreciate the anger of people who are legitimately outraged by Purcell’s hypocrisy.
Again, if any word of what I have written is untrue, I am more than happy for Dom Richard Purcell, OCSO, to commence legal proceedings against me under the provisions of the Defamation Act 2009. I can provide him with the contact details from my solicitor, to accept service of documents.
E-mail extract:
“I ask that you ring Mount Melleray Abbey and request/demand the immediate resignation of Dom Richard Purcell as Abbot and Ordinary of Mount Melleray Abbey. I request that you discuss these matters with the Father Immediate of Mount Melleray and ensure that an interim superior is appointed by no later than 5 p.m. on Tuesday afternoon the 3rd of November. In the event that Dom Richard Purcell refuses to resign, I have been advised by an advocate of the Roman Rota – that you should immediately approach the competent Dicastery, the “Congregation for Religious”, and request an immediate Decree removing Purcell as Abbot having consulted your council.
In conclusion, I do not know Dom Richard Purcell; I have never met him; I have no animus towards him….but under no circumstances can he be permitted to remain as the superior…”

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Your evidence is that you know a man who THINKS his brother may have had sex with the abbot.
That’s not evidence… that’s hearsay.

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8.06: I hooe and pray that the Abbot General will respond to you, Robert, with a one one statement: This matter is for the Cistercians and is being cyrrently being investigated. That’s as much as the Abbot Veneral need say at this miment. You, Robert, are acting on hearsay and – by innuendo are suggesting allegations of abuse. You cannot behave like this because your moral and spiritual sensitivities are hurt. If you have clear evidence that miral boundaries have been transgressed causing abuse to ithers, then go to civil authorities. Any one can make false accusations and it appears to me that you, along wuth your friend, Pat, are engaging in trial by blog. I asked you before: seeing that Mt. Mellary is “clise” to your heart, why din’t you approach Abbot Purcell in a spirit of fraternal charity and place your concerns and findings before him. Surely you can do that! Otherwise, I am suspicious of your motivations. In your pursuance of this individual monk, you and Pat are harassing all communities of Cistercians, many of whom are of a great age, frail and unwell. I think your behaviour smacks of a horrible, arrogant self righteousness. I’m just wondering how you would treat a sulking, bullying teenage son or daughter who “shames” your family by their behaviour????

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Robert and I are not “friends”. We have never met each other. He has long term affection for Mount Mellerary He disagrees with much that I say and do.

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+ Pat – I despair ! It seems that no matter what you or I do, the hierarchs of the Church will continue on their merry way and ignore anything that is put before them. They are showing distain for the truth. I suppose it is no surprise, for they will have been observing the antics of the likes of Trump – ignore, deny, lie, coverup. They are brazen, they know exactly what they are doing, and they know that they will get away with it. At least so far. So, sadly, I am not hopeful that there will be much movement, but I do encourage you to keep up the pressure. My hope is that this will be taken up by an organisation / media that has more coverage than you and your blog, and that it will suddenly hit them. In the meantime, we need you to keep the flame burning. Keep the spotlight on them and call them out.

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Forced to give up due to long term chronic ill health, Dom Kirby is now cared for 24/7 by the monks at Silverstream.

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Robert Fisk, who died yesterday, adhered to the old journalistic adage that news is something that someone, somewhere, would prefer to have covered up and all the rest is just free advertising.

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All these unfounded accusations without any proof at all. It getting boring. If you have proof produce it. Otherwise go away.

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So who??? “The Abbot General of the Cistercians has been given an ultimatum to sort out the Mellerary/ Purcell situation by the early part of this week. Otherwise the matter will be referred to the state authorities to examine and investigate.”

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12.22: Your behaviour, Pat, stinks of hypocrisy. You are playing loose with truth in denying you don’t know Hourigan. You seem to have had much communication and you have both planned a strategy against Abbot Purcell and others. There is a deviousness about your pretending to know nothing of an ultimatum. You know what exactly is going in. You and Hourigan are devious. Yiu are in truth a poisonous, vengeful creep. NOT OF CHRIST…

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I’m curious about the moral authority supposedly given to Pat and Robert and by which they are acting against the monk in Mt. Mellary. I do not approve of your lynch mob approach.

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How us making a complaint to the proper authorities a lynch mob? How is demanding a response from these authorities a lynch mob?

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There is no doubt that Robert exists. He has already stated that he is a senior manger in Fund Management. His e-mail address has been posted sever times by PB.
However in this post he has shot himself in the foot by stating that “I had a conversation with an individual, who believes his brother was sexually acquainted with the current Abbot of Mount” This is hearsay. We need evidence.
I am afraid Robert is being emotionally involved (understandably) and this will not solve matters.
Robert, please step back a bit. We need evidence not emotion or hearsay.

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Dom Eamon Fitzgerald and/or Dom Richard Purcell can deny the allegations at any time, but the longer this goes on more and more scrutiny is going to be focused on the Abbot General.

Why is Dom Eamon so willing to protect Richard Purcell? People might start asking very awkward questions about Dom Eamon. Was he aware of the allegations about Fr. Gerard, when he appointed Fr. Gerard as novice master when he was elected Abbot of Mount Melleray Abbey? This could get very ugly.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/monk-jailed-for-indecent-assaults-on-schoolgirls-1.25359

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1.13: A lynch mob approach because of the implicit insinuations in allegations you are both making and the threat of going to “higher and other authorities” if you fail to get your head on a plate. The behaviour of the two of you – friends in arms – is disgusting. It’s of a bullying nature. How do both of you know that the Abbot is not in a phase of renewal, that out of shame and guilt he is on a very profound reflection on his life? And I sincerely hope that you are both not so delusional as to think that your standards are the ones we should follow.

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@1:20

What an interesting question. However, Richard Purcell would appear has been indulging in this behaviour for a considerable period of time. Shame-based guilt is not conducive to profound reflection. But, if Dom Richard is sincere; he should do the honourable thing, for Mount Melleray Abbey, and resign immediately.

He should then have a time of renewal and reflection in a centre that most bishops insist that priests attend when they have periods of “difficulty”. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Then, if Br. Richard wishes to remain as a monk; he should return to his original monastery, and live the life of a brother. He should no longer exercise the priesthood publicly for a period of five-years — if he is sincere.

For those who wish to have my postal address, Dom Richard Purcell, can have same via the auspices of his solicitor.

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@12:40

Yes, I have spoken with Pat Buckley on several occasions in recent days about Mount Melleray Abbey and Richard Purcell. Lots of information has been forthcoming including a telephone call this morning about the past behaviour of certain priests in the Limerick/Killaloe area.

It was yours truly who wrote to the Abbot General asking him to invite Richard Purcell to resign as Abbot and/or deal with the situation in accordance to the Constitutions of the Congregation by no later this forthcoming Tuesday at 5 p.m.

I have made a very serious allegation against Dom Richard Purcell; I know it to be true, the Abbot General of the Order of the Cistercians of the Strict Observance, also knows about Purcell’s past conduct; so does a priest at Mount St. Joseph Abbey as does an ex-employee.

Again, if there is anything untrue in what I have asserted, Richard Purcell can issue High Court proceedings against me under the provisions of the Defamation Act, 2009. I will willingly accept service of his papers. In return, I can provide him with a list of witnesses including a bishop and an archbishop that I wish to have cross-examined by leading counsel, and then we can see who was telling the truth.

In the same manner, the former Gregory Collins, the monk and priest of Glenstal Abbey has been remarkably silent about his behaviour in Jerusalem. Why is that? Because, he knows the assertions made against him are true. And, that is why there has been no threat of litigation. In exactly the same manner, Richard Purcell will not issue proceedings, because he will be exposed in open court as a hypocrite.

I am, of course, amused by many of the comments. Nobody, is expressing any concern for the reputation of Mount Melleray Abbey, but instead there seems to be a concerted attack on the messenger.

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Let’s change the subject, can we ? We know that no matter how much noise we make, Purcell et al are not going to resign and with continue blithely in spite of everything that is alleged about them. The bishops won’t do anything. They will all brazen it out. Until such time as the whole thing comes tumbling down on top of them, which it will, without much warning, a bit like the fall of the Berlin Wall. The foundations are very shaky, and something will come along unsuspectingly, we not not what, and the whole thing will crumble. Let’s just wait for that to happen. So, in the meantime I suggest we move back to more entertaining times, when we had the delights of Rory, and Gorgeous, and Dean Kennedy, and…..well, you know, the whole cast of minor miscreants, entertaining antics both on and off the altar. It was such an innocent time and we enjoyed ourselves reading all about it……

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@ 4:30 pm
Hold your horses! The powers that be may have no choice but to take action.
It may come tumbling down on top of them sooner than you think.

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4.30: Aren’t you very intelligent? More fun is what you want at the expense of others who have already been subjected to the horrors of this nasty blog. I am amazed at your definition of fun, although if a disciple of the Larne way of living, your attitude is no great surprise. There are many people on this blog who definitely need God’s mercy.

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@5:05 – get a sense of humour and lighten up, darling ! We just want some salacious gossip! Why do you think we come here. Anything to fill the time between supper and compline. Nothing much on TV these days to divert us. We can’t do those endless, boring, parish meetings anymore with Covid. Thank God ! + Pat’s blog is the next best thing.

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What’s happened with Alex B after his ordination celebrations ? Is he back in Rome “for further studies”. Lucky boy if he is. Oh, the Roman life, all that light study, siesta afternoons pizza and pasta evenings, wandering through the Campidoligio, the Borghese……aaaahhh, such a privileged life. Happy days ! And then, I suppose, as a Chosen One he will never really have to do a grim parish. It will be nice stuff for our Alex. Good looks (if ageing a bit these days) get you far in the Church. Ever was the way. I remember….. !

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1.21: Mr. Hourigan, you make references to being in possession of witnesses who will validate your allegations. You are in touch with Pat – that was very obvious – though Pat was in denial of this truth. I am still puzzled as to your relentless hounding by legal threats of the monk against whom you make allegations. While moral, institutional hypocrisy is unacceptable at all times, I do not believe that you have any mandate to pursue The Abbot because of his misdeeds. I am certain that the Abbot is engaging in some process of deep reflection. That process, surely, is the decision of the Abbot General. You have absolutely no moral right or authority to issue a list of criteria to satisfy your sense of truth and justice. You did declare recently that none of us is perfect. True. Yet, your behaviour is most definitely less than perfect. I wonder if I lived close to your home and suspected that your behaviour or of any family member was unacceptable and a source of moral and civil concern, would you appreciate if I approached you to express my disapproval? While we each must call out and name wrongdoing and abuse, I do not have an unquestioned right to harrass any person, as I believe your are doing. And to suggest that you will continue unless the Abbot takes a law suit against you is an outrageous moral blackmail. What a horrible rope to hold around someone’s neck!!

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I too am puzzled by Mr Hourigan’s role in this and why he thinks he can force this issue.

The difference between The Dom and Mr H, though, is that Mr Hourigan is not the public face of an institution that would pride itself in adhering to and being a stalwart and bastion of Catholic values.
Richard P’s moral compass appears to be veering away off any decent sense of moral value never mind a Christian or Catholic centre. He is a hypocrite and should be exposed as such.

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Neither Pat or Robert have any business in what the Catholic Church does or does not do. It’s a private entity and does not have public faces. The clergy or religious priests monks or brothers below to their respective body or diocese and therefore not answerable to anyone either on this blog or elsewhere. Robert go off and say your prayers. Put the statute book down. Find another club to join if you dont like how this one is run. Goes for everyone else too. Get out and close the door behind you.

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Really so clergy, religious priest or monks can do whatever they like – and live lives of double standards?.The problem is that Catholics are no longer prepared to remain in the dark and have shit thrown at them.

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They can do whatever they like provided always it is not criminal activity. If their governing body will accept the behaviour then it is for no one else to judge. Exactly my point. Leave if you’re not happy with his things are. No one is keeping anyone against their will. The Irish constitution and subsequent case law sets out clearly the right to associate and equally disassociate- anyone not happy just leave and stop harassing private citizens.

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I’m wondering whats the due process for bishops or abbot’s? 2 weeks or 1 month before we could start it. However bishops and cardinals even abbot’s have a trait of brazening out as long as possible. Look at the Vatican re mc Carrick report is a best example of that cos it goes past the legal limit.
It needs to be a string of corroborated evidence, not hearsay (not good enough),, follow the money. Problem was that all of it was consensual sex. Was it forced or was it thru drinks or was it blackmail which gave away to sex etc?
Would have a question for head abbot or superior general.. Did Purcell have sex before he became an abbot, if so why was he nominated for an abbot for votes? On the other hand, his sexual behaviour began after he became an abbot? Is there a record of his previous behaviour which we could draw from and to arrive at conclusions.
When Purcell entered the seminary or an Abbey or prior to that, did they ask him re his sexual orientation or behaviour or not?
At first glance at the info we have at this blog, we really don’t know what’s going on behind Purcell ongoing behaviour? We don’t have the fullest info here. Monks thought it was one off, why didn’t they question Purcell before he entered the Abbey or seminary as part of weeding out process.
Another question, why did they need Purcell, was it his skill at raising money for the Abbey? They appointed him at roscrea school despite his young age and why did they appoint him? Was it his skill at raising money or what or spiritual expertise ??
If his ongoing behaviour on nocturnal activities continues, he’s not fit to be a head abbot, these two responsibilities such as ongoing behaviour and also bring a head abbot at the same time, are incompatible as it doesn’t reconcile.
Lastly bishops/cardinals/superior general here and abroad, have a track record of brazening it all out and at the same time, hoping it would die out in the process just like mc Carrick report.
Does the congregation of bishops know this? Was it reported to them or not?

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@4:50 pm

Let me be clear, I have made NO legal threats against Richard Purcell, I have merely repeatedly highlighted that I am more than happy in light of the evidence for Richard Purcell to commence legal proceedings against me at any time; if the stated allegations are untrue.

If Richard Purcell is indulging in some form of “deep reflection” then, he should continue with said reflection in an appropriate manner by resigning as the Abbot of Mount Melleray Abbey and/or stepping aside until an independent and transparent investigation is conducted.

Richard Purcell, freely entered monastic life, he freely made solemn monastic profession; he freely sought to be ordained a deacon and a priest. To be indulging in consensual homosexual sex is at variance with these freely-assumed monastic vows and his priestly state. Nobody is forcing Richard Purcell to remain a monk, priest and abbot. And, as I have previously stated, if he wishes to go and have as much sex as he likes; and/or attend any gay sauna in Dublin or any other part of world — he is free to do so, but not as the Abbot of Mount Melleray Abbey.

The behaviour of Richard Purcell will continue to be called out until he resigns or steps aside as Abbot. Additionally, I have discovered in recent days that ANOTHER former Cistercian Abbot has been active on the Irish gay scene. But, I am going to let that sleeping dog lie, because he is no longer a serving abbot.

There is no question that I am indulging in any form of moral blackmail. I am just highlighting what is already “known” and what will be legally attested within affidavits. Richard Purcell has broken the eleventh commandment — he got caught. He was recognised at certain venues; his hubris and his own actions will be his own undoing — notwithstanding his own failure to live-up to his freely-assumed monastic vows.

@5:10 pm

Richard Purcell’s behaviour besmirches the monastic witness and the fidelity of generations of monks who faithfully lived out their monastic profession to the best of their ability at Mount Melleray Abbey. No community is perfect; no individualist perfect; no monk is perfect; no abbot is perfect; this is clearly reflected in the rule of St. Benedict. But, it is also the case that the vast majority of Cistercian Abbots are not indulging in penetrative sex in monastic guesthouses with visiting priests, who are discerning a vocation to the monastic way of life. Most Cistercian Abbots are not visiting gay saunas having sex with ex-seminarians. Thus, the behaviour of Richard Purcell (over a long-period of time) can only be described as schizophrenic.

You are absolutely right Purcell’s moral compass is completely skewed. With deep regret, I have to agree he is a hypocrite and should be exposed as such. When he was elected Abbot of Mount Melleray, a lot of people had “hope” in light of his age; musical talents and other gifts, he could bring dynamism to the community and a renewal that might attract vocations. Richard Purcell has many talents; I have never met him; nor do I have any animus against him as an individual, but using any yardstick he is unsuitable to be the Abbot of any Cistercian monastery. I do know others who speak highly of his gifts. However, nobody was aware of his hidden/schizophrenic existence. And, they now are shocked and deeply disappointed. And, for this reason, he should resign, IMMEDIATELY.

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What, so he’s a robot? Or are you suggesting that it’s +Pat writing under another name. That’s clearly nonsense since the writing style consistent and is completely different to Pat’s.
it’s quite difficult to write consistently in a different style

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How often does “We know … “ as in “We know who you are” crop up on this blog as if to claim some spurious authority. You know shit, Lottie!

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Robert back off and give us some evidence. You are being obsessed and emotionally involved with this. It is taking over your life. Is it worth it?

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We need MMM to give us a professional and informed opinion on these constant obsessive posts. I sometimes disagree with his atheistic attacks on the church. However there are certain things I agree with him on social service issues.

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8.26: MMM was a social worker by odifessiin, not a psychologist or psychiatrist. Research “obsessive” behaviour and compulsions in Google or look at Psychology Today website….MMM will invariable conclude that all “clerics” are obsessive!!

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Thanks to Ulster’s lockdown and the closure of pubs, MMM is unable to fire Guinness-fueled vituperative rockets from his mountainside bar stool.

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@8:26: I am always interested in reading other people’s strongly held views, even repetitively articulated ones provided there’s some cogency to it.
Those that constantly repeat assertions without supporting evidence, while attacking contrary views by ad hominem comment, are rarely open to change through debate, and have little to offer from which we can learn. This is very common with certain religious beliefs. Thus I mostly ignore their repetitive rants.
MMM

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@5:34 above reckons this is none of our business because the clergy / monks are not public figures and we should butt out.
What a load of shiite ! Of course they are public figures. They rely on the money we give them. They put themselves up in front of us as men of God. We have a right to an opinion as to what they are up to.
And quite simply, it is this: I am not in the slightest bothered about what sexual antics they get up to – sauna, alfresco, cruising, Grindr, bareback, top or bottom – as long as it is within the law and not abusive. I make no moral point at all to their sexual activities. But, what I do bother about is this – Purcell and Co and the Church make a big deal about sexual morality and in particular the chaste / celibate status of clergy / monks, publicly so, requiring vows for the clergy / monks, and making moral judgements on the rest of us and what we do in our lives and relationships. They are entitled to do that if they want to. I / you don’t have to listen to them as far as it concerns our own lives if we do not want to. However, for them, they make a public issue about it and use it to their advantage. So, I think I can reasonably expect them to keep to what they publicly claim they are doing. If they do the opposite, on the quiet, then it is a matter simply of honesty and integrity. And, I am perfectly entitled to take a view about that.
I have nothing personally against Purcell and other clergy who get up to all sorts of sexual antics. I just want them to be honest. If they want to have bareback, sauna, cruising, alfresco, Grindr sex, then fine. But let them be open and honest about it, and not do it under the pretence of being celibate / chaste. If they want that lifestyle, then I am perfectly happy, indeed encourage, them to do it. But, outside of the presbytery, the monastery, and the ministry. I would have immense admiration for them if they honestly made that decision and moved on to a new, open, transparent and honest life. But, if they keep lying to us, if they keep scurrying around in the shadows and living a double life, whilst professing otherwise, then I think they are a bunch of Sunts (that’s French with a cedilla !) and I have not the slightest respect for them.

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Of course it’s none of your business. There is no such thing as us. The church is a legal entity you decide to associate or not. If you dont like what they so it’s simple, leave. The fact you might put a penny on the plate now and again is irrelevant. If you’re not happy take your custom elsewhere. People who want to leave can and people who want to stay will. There is no such thing as us. It is the church and any individual who wants to associate.

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7.55
You may be living out of a memory of the past. When have you last heard of priests making a big deal out of sexual sin? At one stage it seemed as if sexual din was the only kind of sin there was. The world we inhabit today sees things rather differently today. And every member of the Christian churches is also a member of today’s societal culture. It could be said now that sexual sins are among the least serious in the churches and in society.

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6.23: Mr. Hourigan, we’ve had a bucket full of your threatening comments, attempting to subvert justice. You really are wanting a head on a plate. You should have the moral courage to go to The Abbot and speak the “truth” to him withnfurmness and charity. Who mandated you to act as judge, nurrir and executioner. Your new friend, Pat, is allowing you to dug a deeper hole for yourself. Anyone can lie and make serious allegations behind a blig or pseudonym. Your behaviour is sinful and very flawed. It is, considering the need we all have for truth in every situation, morally reprehensible. You do not have an authority to act in your despicaply, bullying manner.

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8.08: Hi honey bunch….go suck a banana…it will give you the fun you really desire…make sure it’s not gone off and too soft!!! That would spoil your fun.. P. S. – if you spot Hourigan and Pat, invite them along!!: 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😄😄😃😄🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡….Yes, let’s lighten up…spread the message.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😎😎😎😍😎😘😍😎😋🤣

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8.39: Lolita – 🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦….followed by delucious strawberry ice cream🍨🍨🍨🍨🍨🍨🍦🍦🍦😄😄😄😄😄😘😘😊😈😈😈😈…

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I suppose how many bishops will end up in midfield is another serious concern for those involved as well as from what dioceses.

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9.30pm
More appropriate is how many bishops are compromised.
The problem was that some bishops are law unto themselves as they get away with it. They must be held accountable cos they are public figures.
Correct me if I’m wrong there – is there an ethics and moral code or law for bishops???

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So we’re at the end of a week of attacks against Abbot Richard from Prosecutor Robert Horrigan and Barrister Pat Buckley and it would seem that the jury aren’t convinced: they don’t trust the prosecution, and they certainly don’t trust the Barrister… both of whom seem to have caused the judge to explode with anger as they seem to be filibustering… but the jury ain’t listening.

The court proceedings continue for another day, but, assuming the prosecution don’t produce any surprise witnesses… I think we all know the result.

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10.29: Irrespective of the seriousness of the alleged wrongdoing of the monk, the behaviour of Buckley and Hourigan is utterly despicable. What a nasty pair. They should learn the meaning of GOSPEL MERCY – otherwise they should shut up..

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Reminds me of the zen story about the monk who carries a woman on his back across the river. An hour later his fellow monk reminds him that he has breached the rules by carrying the woman. The monk replies: “Are you still carrying her?”

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It’s fascinating to me how for so many commenters here, exposing these naughty characters was all fun and games. Then, Robert Hourigan gets involved, things start to get very real for the visitators of Silverstream, and all of the sudden there is a surge of comments from concerned about how awful Pat B. and Robert H. are — how dare they go after these people, what about the Gospel, compassion, etc.! Where were all of these very concerned comboxers folk before?

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What it suggests to me at least is that a good number of the commenters here are perverse old clergymen who can have a laugh at the peccadilloes of other clergy, but start to get very nervous when they start to see what can happen when outraged people in the pews stop simply watching clergy horndoggery and start doing something about it.

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