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THE MAIN PLAYERS IN OUR MOUNT MELLERARY, SILVERSTREAM AND GLANSTAL SAGA – SEXUAL IMPROPRIETY, COVER UP AND FINANCIAL CONCERNS.

ABBOT RICHARD PURCELL – MOUNT MELLERARY AND SILVERSTREAM VISITOR.

In 2005

Richard stands accused of sexual impropriety and is refusing to budge. Has he got “the dirt” on others who are protecting him?

He is also a failed Silverstream Visitor.

He is on the Hourigan List.

ABBOT GENERAL EAMON FITZGERALD

Eamon is like the three monkeys all rolled into one.

He is on the Hourigan List.

FATHER IMMEDIATE ABBOT MICHAEL “SHINER” RYAN.

Michael says he knows nothing. And Father Immediate is stalling.

He is on the Hourigan List.

PRIOR MARK KIRBY – SILVERSTREAM.

Still looking his Lenny and in solitary confinement in the Silverstream boiler house.

DOM “WHISTLE BLOWER” – SILVERSTREAM.

Whistle blower sill waiting truth and justice.

PRIOR ELIJAH – SILVERSTREAM.

Elijah is trying to be the new prior on the block while not being the brightest button on the shirt.

He was in charge of the money in Silverstream.

ABBOT BRENDAN “THE FIXER” COFFEY – GLENSTAL AND SILVERSTREAM VISITOR.

Brendan conducted a failed Visitation of Silverstream.

He tried to force the whistle blower to cover up for Dick Purcell.

Glenstal’s reputation is now damaged after revelations about Gregory Collins.

He is on the Hourigan List.

BISHOP TOM DEENIHAN – MEATH.

Silverstream is on Big Tom’s patch.

Sponsor of seminarians.

BISHOP FINTAN MONAHAN – KILLALOE.

Lugs and Dick

Lugs and Dick are old mates.

Roscrea is in Lug’s patch.

BISHOP PHONSIE CULLINAN – WATERFORD.

PHONS AND DICK

Dick is on The Phons’ patch.

ARCHBISHOP KIERANAN O’REILLY – CASHEL.

KIERAN “MALAGA” O’REILLY

Brendan Coffey lives on his patch.

FATHE (EMERITUS) NEIL DARGAN.

THE ROMAN ROTA ADVOCATE.

Hourigan’s Man in Rome

The Abbot General has not responded to the advocates letter.

The advocate is proceeding with a formal notification to the Irish papal nuncio and the introduction of proceedings at the Vatican.

“OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN WE FIRST BEGIN TO DECEIVE”.

THE SENIOR COUNSEL – DUBLIN.

Hourigan’s Man in The Wig.

MR ROBERT HOURIGAN – KERRY.

Life time supporter and devotee of Mount Mellerary.

GARDA INVESTIGATION INTO SILVERSTREAM STILL PROCEEDING.

The Blog has heard from a very reliable source that the Garda investigation into Silverstream is still an active and open investigation.

They are concentrating on the financial irregularities and the claims of blackmail and extortion.

It seems that the Visitation team which includd Purcell and Coffey did not answer all the Garda questions?

128 replies on “THE MAIN PLAYERS IN OUR MOUNT MELLERARY, SILVERSTREAM AND GLANSTAL SAGA – SEXUAL IMPROPRIETY, COVER UP AND FINANCIAL CONCERNS.”

10.52

I know, dear, which is why I expressed my preference in the past future perfect. I know that you don’t understand this, so I’ll make it ultra-simple for you:

‘I would have suggested Sean Connery for the role of Kirby’… (the following was ellipted, but understood…by the intelligent) ‘HAD HE NOT DIED’.

Who’s the ‘gombeen clownl’ now?

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6.17

An accomplisged actor Rhys Meyer, t’ be sure. But would he have the creative versatility to understand and play such a multi-layered character as Deenihan? I suggest Liam Neeson instead, with that tall Northern presence, and resonant voice. (Not sure, though, whether he could bring off Denihan’s Southern brogue.😕)

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Good casting, Neeson and Deenihan have a certain menacing edge as seen in ‘Taken’. I’m sure he could be convincing.

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I would have suggested Sean Connery for the role of Kirby. Didn’t Connery play a Franciscan friar in that medieval murder mystery, The Name of the Rose? He would have been just right for the enigmatic, Jesus-chatting Kirby.

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10:14 pm. I’ll happily play the role of the detective with the relentless investigative approach.
— “There are a few loose ends I’d like to tie up, nothing important you understand…”

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Whoever put the Jambalaya song up by The Carpenter’s deserves a medal. Goodbye Joe, you gotta go, me oh my oh. Will it be on any new chant album from Glenstal

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I have now decided to take leave of your blog Bishop Pat. This continuing episode of Hourigan/Mellary/Glenstall has become too much, totally obsessive and unhealthy. I thought better of you Bishop Pat but something has changed about your blog and about you recently and I find it utter distasteful. We were here before with poor Fr. Mulvihill, were we not?

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Anon@11:16.
I entirely agree with your comments. It is disappointing to note that Pat has recently blocked several of my similar critical comments concerning this monks and Abbey saga, so much so that I too am considering leaving. I know I would not be missed by the “usual crew”, but considering the banality of their usual offerings it’s probably best leaving them to it.
MMM

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Pat, you have a nasty habit of forgetting when you block posts… Especially when they are critical of you, even if only slightly critical.

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I agree with you and with MMM at 11.08am. I have not always agreed with him or DG but have respected for different reasons. There were never any personal disparaging comments about individuals from either of them.
Some of my comments have been deleted.

Garngad Lad

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11:08 am
MMM, as a former Social Worker, in the context of numerous reports into CSA, (its been acknowledged this is not a CSA issue), covering up by Bishops, abuse of power, criminality among some within the clerical fraternity: do you not think these issues, the dynamics involved, not to mention the positions of those allegedly involved, is important to the Community at large?

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Yes@11:21: I do. But as to which monk has sex with another cleric, and all the shenanigans within “the cloisters” I’m not in least bit interested. If there has been impropriety by abuse of positional power between adults, clerical or otherwise, that’s for the institutions to deal with: I have no interest in it.
Where CSA, ( for clarity: abuse of children by adults), by adults clerical or otherwise, is involved yes it’s vital to have the public informed.
I may have missed CSA info in the course of this unending “monks and Abbey ” saga, for I’ve found it so banal and scrolled past much of it 😳
MMM

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11:25 am. We don’t come on here to criticise our host; that is just bad manners.
However, we do sometimes criticise each other in the form of banter; that is fine.
— Our main objective, on here, is to enhance awareness of safeguarding issues within our communities; with a particular emphasis on ensuring those who have been abused, abandoned and tossed aside are given some considerable leverage while suffering under their afflictions – by giving them a voice.
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— “These are the days of Elijah,
Declaring the word of the Lord
And these are the days of Your servant Moses,
Righteousness being restored.
And though these are days of great trial,
Of famine and darkness and sword,
Still, we are the Voice in the desert crying
“Prepare ye the way of the Lord!.””

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2:34 pm
So,why would any priest, bishop or popes view count for anything after such extensive cover up in the church?

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5:39 pm
I agree, MMM.
However, there appears far more to this saga than which monk has sex with another cleric, and all the shenanigans within “the cloisters”. Far more!

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Why is Fr John Walsh OP in the class photo? Don’t Dominicans do their study abroad? Did he do some of his studies in Maynooth?

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Rev David Barrins OP, Dundalk Dominicans was a Maynooth seminarian before moving on to the OP’s. Does he figure on one of the Maynooth classpieces?

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There is no David Barrins in the database. There has only been one student with the surname Barrins, from 1903.

The classpieces are of the IV Divinity ordination class each year, so a student who left earlier would not be on it.

https://clericus.ie/people

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Every seminarian who matriculated is on the database, irrespective of whether they left, were ordained or died. The classpiece is the deacons who are ordained priest in the year, or due to be. Irish College, Rome ordinands are on the Maynooth classpieces too. Each student on the classpiece pays for his own photo and clubs together to pay for the large framed picture which is displayed on the cloisters of Maynooth. Each student also gets gets a smaller version of the large Maynooth classpiece. You see those smaller ones in presbyteries. MJB will have been given his.

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Fr D. Barrins’ absence from the classpiece may have something to do with the circumstances under which his Maynooth studies were discontinued whatever they might be.

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But could someone address the fact that Purcell allegedly rode Dargan before Purcell was ordained and he is a lot younger than Dargan? This changes the entire dynamic somewhat.
Purcell is at least 10 years Dargan’s junior. He wasn’t even a priest, never mind the abbot, when he (allegedly) “parked his bike up the dirt track” in the guesthouse.
Dargan was a priest and a good bit older than RP. So, if anything, if the alleged rogering occurred, is not Dargan the one with the greater “power”?
And what exactly has the whistleblower in Silverstream to do with Purcell? How would whistleblower know anything about Dargan and Purcell’s alleged dalliance in the kitchen? How could whistleblower exculpate Purcell? Did whistleblower know of RP’s alleged forays into the Boilerhouse and how? This whole thing is as clear as mud!!

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For 1,000,000 Euros-
The next resignation in the Irish Catholic Church will be ?
A) An Archbishop
B) A Bishop x 3
C) An Abbot x 3
D) Reassignment for Papal Nuncio + All of the Above.
You can: ask the audience, do a 50/50, phone a friend, ask the quiz-master.

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I am up with the lark this morning. Time to put on my house coat. Go downstairs. Read Buckley. And have a lovely cup of tea.

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Bp Pat, although embarrassing, Dom Purcell’s “sexual impropriety” will not be considered serious (which it is not) regardless of vows, etc., unless there was some sort of other scandal attached to it.
For example, Kitty and alleged financial mismanagement, Collins and the international incident, or Rory and Grindr contact with a former pupil.
A couple of guys having it off in a kitchen, despite the safety aspects to it, is not going to cause a dispute between two nation-states, nor is just visiting a gay sauna, dirty cinema, or peep show, even if they are priests or monks.
Just my opinion.

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The runners and riders are at the starting tape. Is this the grand irrational. Cant help but notice the people in the street appear not to give a damn

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8:58 AM
Good Morning-How- Hi fly.
Begorra fly grand irrational so it seems.
How long will the race last.
Before long more the papers will pick up and run with the story.
Anyways locked -locked down- or need locking up…
May The Force Be With You.+
Bye bye fly hi.

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Don’t hold yer breath, folks, in the hope that a largely Catholic Irish police force will act impartially in its investigation of Silverstream. It is not all that long ago that the justice agency of the Catholic state, the Rep of Ireland, turned nitpicking legal somersaults to avoid extraditing to Northern Ireland one of the most prolific priest paedophiles this island has ever seen, Fr Brendan Smyrh. It protected this pervert for as long as it could, and it will do the same again with the holy folk at Silverstream. The institutional Irish state bends the knee to Rome, and it always will.
I have no doubt that the Catholic Irish police force will do an excellent job by ensuring that Catholic clergy and religious at Silverstream are never brought to justice.

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I am not Irish or Catholic, but I am gay, so I feel, at least in one respect, I am entitled to comment on the blog from time to time.

I am not sure you can make a comparison with Brendan Symth and the strange goings-on at Silverstream. However, I think the former power and influence the Catholic Church used to have in the republic has disintegrated.

IMHO, I believe the donors themselves will be anxious a proper inquiry is carried out at Silverstream by the Garda and the Irish Charity Regulator to establish what happened to almost half of their donations.

It goes without saying, Bp Pat and Mr Hourigan will also be very interested in their report.

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11.32

Oh, you’ll get a report, alright. Just keep your expectations on a tight leash. This is the Irish state we are talking about. And there has long been a cosy relationship in it between the justice agencies and the RCC. And if you think this has completely broken down…😅

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I used to live in Armagh and ine evening my wife went for a spin across the border. She was caught speeding by the Guards. A few weeks later we got a letter saying that she had to report to Castleblayney garda station to have her license endorsed and pay a fixed-penalty notice.
I wanted to throw the letter in the fire on the basis that the Free State had no power to impose penalty points on a UK license, and I denounced it as an attempt to stick their nose into British affairs. “The Guards’ writ ends at the border”, I said, “They have no jurisdiction over a British Ulsterwoman.”.
I was ignored. I tagged along for the crack when she took herself to Castleblayney garda station. They were astonished that someone had crossed the border to pay a fine and they looked a bit raging too. No doubt they would have to fill in various pointless forms because of it.
What I found most remarkable of all was that they had a crucifix on the wall of the public enquiries area.

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What a collection of clerical ghouls ! I do hope that they realise that the days of us automatically deferring and giving our trust to them is long over. For many of us these people are now like bit players in some third rate tv soap, which is largely irrelevant to us, except in so far as they break the criminal law, particularly if it involves the vulnerable. I am not longer surprised to learn of their antics. I say leave them to it. Just don’t give them your money. That will sort them out !

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@12:09

Didn’t the arrest of Brendan Smyth in 1994 led to the collapse of a Fianna Fáil/Labour coalition government due to cross border issues?

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12.45
Yes, it did. Albert Reynold’s Fianna Fáil government.
The Irish Dept of Justice 😅 used every procedural trick in its twisted book to avoid having to extradite that filthy (one psychiatrist described Smyth as ‘psychopathic’) pervert to the ‘Black North’: they thought a Romanist priest, regardless of what he had alledgedly done, worth protecting and shielding over the welfare of vulnerable children in Northern Ireland we now know Smyth did perve on.

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I read usual procedure was, they put the British extradition request in a filing basket on a desk… and just left it there. For years.

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Rev Mr Byrne is fine, having landed on his feet ! He deftly avoided getting ejected completely after his gay antics, and was protected by + Dermot until such time that he could be parachuted in to a nice, well paying, secure job in a hospital, inevitably with a little help from + Dermot. I have no doubt that he is doing a good job there. But, there is no doubt that he has been a fortunate young man, who has been helped along by connections. It all depends on whom you know. Or what you know…?!

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My understanding is that MJB did his chaplaincy studies without any input from DM.

In any event, he is doing a lot of good at present, even with the Covington challenge.

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10:28 Awwwwww sweetie did MJB reject your advances. MJB has found his true vocation as a Chaplain and by all accounts is doing a very fine job during these difficult times, he is to be commended.

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Mmmm ? + Pat @ 1128, so who was supporting him financially during his training ? Who is provided him with housing ? Who is providing his housing now ? I think if you look you will find out that Rev Mr Byrne is quite likely to still be in receipt of considerable largesse from the Archdiocese of Dublin. I don’t begrudge that if he is still a deacon and under the authority of the archbishop, and continues to live a life in accordance with whatever promises he has made. Or, can anybody say if he has cut his ties completely, is now laicised, and completely independent of the Church for support ? Clarity would be good.

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Here we go again, the cohort who are obsessed with MJB. Once mentioned, there is an explosion of opinions, comments and conspiracies.
We do not know what happened between him and Archbishop Martin. We do not know the details or what decisions were made. We also do not know the validity of the claims made. However, we do know that he is still a deacon and that he is doing good work. What is evident is his remarkable resilience to deal with all of this. (I could not deal with this constant abuse being thrown at me on a blog by anonymous people)
10:28 you strike me as a begrudger? There is no need to further denigrate MJB just because he appears to have “landed on his feet!”. Anyone who works in a hospital, nursing home or healthcare facility during this pandemic has earned my respect and admiration. Also, 1:12 – you could always contact the Archbishop and ask clarity on the matter? Just a thought.

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Fr. Buckley and Rev. Byrne were both ordained in the Catholic Church but now they are on the fringes. They have found their own ministry outside of it. This is authentic ministry which is lived out fruitfully and with personal integrity. Who agrees with me?

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He’ll be fine ,he is young and strong. You have a better chance of winning the lotto or being struck by lightning than dying of Covid19. To date in the Republic 2000 people have died with covid19, not necessarily of covid19, they happened to have it when they died. 1,500 of them were vulnerable people in nursing homes, the HSE decided to clear out the hospitals of elderly patients (bedblockers) in the expectation of a Tsunami of cases that never happened. they never tested these patients for covid, they brought covid to the most vulnerable in nursing homes, these 1,500 deaths can be laid squarely at the feet of the HSE. Will anyone be held accountable, of course not, much like the cast of characters in the Monastery saga, who in fairness haven’t killed anyone. Of the remainder if a healthy individual going to work, who had covid with no symptoms, was killed in a car crash his death would be recorded as covid, not road traffic accident. NEPHET is all about protecting the shambles that is the HSE, four administrators to every health professional. Does anyone who reads this blog know personally anyone who has died of Covid19?

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Yes. My 19-year-old cousin who had no underlying issues that we know of.
I also have won 5 numbers on the lotto.

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10.32

‘Bedblockers’?

‘The HSE decided to CLEAR OUT the hospitals of elderly patients (bedblockers)…’? What? Were they sewage clogging up the system, these human beings?

The ironic bit is your criticising the HSE for not first testing these patients for Covid-19 and blaming it for at least 1500 deaths in nursing homes after the elderly patients it ‘cleared out’ of hospitals were then flushed into these unsuspecting places.

WTF! You yourself speak of these elderly patients as ‘less than’, so why are you surprised and annoyed that the HSE decided not to take the precaution of first testing them for Covid-19? Why would it waste money on ‘less thans’.

If you want to apportion blame, pal, look first to your ageist self. Such attitudes and language as you expressed on this blog can only encourage others to dehumanise the elderly to the point where they are considered a bloody nuisance, and not worth bothering about medically.

I’m really glad you are standing next to me right now.

Ponder this, you smug idiot: some day you, too, will be old, frail, and vulnerable. Vulnerable to what? To the patronising, dismissive, discriminatory, callous and unchristian outlook of self-important pricks like you. But don’t bother complaining, because YOU will have set the precedent, you utter fool!

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Keyboard Warrior@11.40, Bedblockers is demeaning term used informally within the HSE to describe elderly patients who are not sick enough to be in hospital but not well enough to go home and cannot afford nursing home costs of €6,000 to €8,000 per month. The term was coined within the HSE, not by me.
I’m in my 60’s and I’m not your pal, nor do I want to be. I am a front line worker who has worked throughout this pandemic. I meet a large number of people during the course of my work, I’ve met a few that have had covid19 most had mild symptoms, some have had none, one that was very sick but did not need hospitalisation.
I have seen many businesses closed down, people being made unemployed, trying to pay a morgage, bills and feed children on €350 a week. i can only imagine the depression and suicides that the looming recession is going to bring with it and the punitive taxation that is going to be levied on the coming generations to pay for it.
The strategy being pursued by Dr Doom and NEPHET is costing the country a fortune and is quite simply not working. Their carelessness in discharging elderly patients into nursing homes without first testing for covid is in my opinion criminally negligent.

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12.27

I don’t give the proverbial who or what you are in the Republic of Ireland’s health service; this is totally irrelevant (as is most of your rambling, self-justifying and praise-seeking post) to your abuse of the elderly-vulnerable by refering to them as ‘bedblockers’, and by alluding to them as waste clogging up hospital pipelines. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, especially since you admitted that the term was ‘demeaning’, and that you yourself work in that health service.

If you truly believe that such a pejorative is demeaning to the elderly-vulnerable, then why don’t you do something useful and set your colleagues a more edifying example by refusing to use the term, and by calling them out when they do?

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MJB and all the others during the notorious Maynooth summer of love were a disgrace. Had Pat not intervened they all would have carried on Grinding, cashing in their SJYPS cheques and sailing on to ordination and to all sorts of capers thereafter.

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The rant at 11:40 completely misunderstands and misrepresents the measured and sane observations at 10:32. NB the usual trick of the ignoramus to call his opponent a fool – oh, and let’s not omit “smug idiot”, “pal”. However, we should thank the poster at 11:40 for illustrating so effectively the point made by 10:32 – and endorsed by my own earlier humble contribution in reply – that so many claims made during Covid 19 are frankly hysterical and unsubstantiated. There will be years of recrimination after it’s all over with the usual back-sliding, attempts to pass the buck, and hiding behind contradictory claims that nobody knew or they were only following the experts; an all too familiar story.

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12.06

I misunderstood and misrepresented no one. The idiot’s own derogatory references and allusions to the elderly-vulnerable are plain to see.

That other poster ought to feel shame.

As for you, well, you lack the emotional intelligence, so I’ll give you a fool’s pardon.

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Don’t waste your time on @11.40, I’ve seen his posts regularly, you can always tell its him because he is ill informed, abusive and used the term “fool” a lot. I think he is referring to himself, and probably starts his day with gin soaked cornflakes!

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Every now and then someone starts fishing for something on MJB. Can we just accept that he has moved on very creditably and wish him well? As for the comment on Covid 19 at 10:32, it is the same dishonest and manipulative reporting as in the UK which creates unnecessary fear and anxiety and is stocking up mountains of future economic, social and psychological problems for our already beleaguered young people – not to mention those numerous cases of sick people who have been unable to access normal treatment this year in order to “protect the NHS”. Protect it from what? From doing its job? And in answer to the question, no, I don’t know anybody who has contracted Covid 19, let alone died from it. Nor do I know anybody who does know somebody infected. For me the whole shoddy business has caused me never to trust again any organization which puts its own self-interest and claim to special know-how above the common good – I am thinking particularly of the UK government ( Scotland even worse ) and the sodding RCC.

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The poster @10:32 DOES NOT make derogatory comments concerning the elderly. Rather he deplores the removal of vulnerable people from hospital beds in order to protect beds rather than people! And you are accusing me of a lack of intelligence, emotional or otherwise. This will be my last posting on this topic, as it’s like having to deal with Magna all over again. Please don’t tell us how many doctorates you possess. Not much use if you cannot get the gist of a text.

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Dargan is over 10 years older than Purcell, who WAS NOT the abbot of Melleray – and WAS NOT a priest – when the alleged barebacking among the pots and pans allegedly took place. Yes, if the sex occurred, they broke their vows and, if it is further true about RP’s proclivities, then, like Dargan, he should return to lay life. But there was no abuse of power or position – just two gay guys consensually engaged in rumpy pumpy (ALLEGEDLY!)

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@ 12:32pm – quite so. An age difference does not necessarily mean a power difference (in either direction).
I suggest that this is one aspect of the sorry saga that does not merit further attention.

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Bishop Pat has always made it clear he is happy with the younger man and is married to a younger man.
As for Robert Hourigan we only know what he writes and never about himself apart from being from the bogs of Kerry.

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“Mark how the lark and linnet sing:
With rival notes
They strain their warbling throats
To welcome in the spring.
—-
But in the close of night
When Philomel begins her heav’nly lay,
They cease their mutual spite… 🙄
Drink in her music with delight,
And list’ning and silent obey… 🤢
—-
So ceas’d the rival crew when Purcell came:
They sung no more, or only sung his fame…
Struck dumb, they all admir’d the matchless man,
Alas, too soon retir’d…! 😂🤣
As he too late began…
—-
We beg not Hell our Orpheus to restore (this is true…! 😂)
Had he been there,
Their sovereign’s fear
Had sent him back before… (Monestary to monestary / parish to parish 🙄)
—-
The pow’r of harmony too well they knew (not!);
He long ere this had tun’d their jarring sphere,
And left no Hell below.
The heav’nly choir, who heard his notes from high,
Let down the scale of music from the sky;
—-
They handed him along,
And all the way he taught, and all the way they sung.
Ye brethren of the lyre and tuneful voice,
Lament his lot, but at your own rejoice!
Now live secure, and linger out your days:
The gods are pleas’d alone with Purcell’s lays (and many they were, we hear!)
Nor know to mend their choice… x

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I see Priti Patel looks like she is going to get away with bullying and a judgement by an independent government investigator which is being ignored by Boris. Nichols is filleted by IICSA and has the protection of his boss in Rome, so he says, “So, on we go !”, he says. Does nobody take any responsibility for what they do these days ? Maybe the Purcells of this world are in good company. Why should they take responsibility for their behaviour and dysfunction when people like Patel and Nichols don’t bother to take any responsibility for their failings and arrogance ? Maybe Purcell could show some balls and character and resign. That could be the beginning of his rehabilitation.

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Thank you for reinforcing my point @11:32 about trust having been undermined in both the secular and spiritual realms. One simply cannot believe a word any of them says, whether they be toadies in the UK government or the RCC. Like Ichabod, integrity and probity have flown out of the window, and won’t be returning anytime soon.

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Mr Hourigan has gone very quiet since the revelation of the big age difference between Purcell and Dargan. Kind of collapses/turns on its head, the whole “abuse of power” faux outrage.

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Now howl yer horses there. Howdya make that out? Purcell WAS his boss when he alledgedly rumped that priest in the monastery kitchen.
I hope they disinfected the work tops afterwsrds.

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Purcell wasn’t his boss. Purcell wasn’t even ordained when the alleged sex took place. The other alleged participant was a priest over 10 years Purcell’s senior. Hourigan has gone to ground because his case has collapsed. If sex took place it was obviously consensual – that is, two willing participants, in case you don’t understand the word ‘consensual’. No coercion or abuse of power. Just an older bloke offering his bottom to a younger bloke for purposes of mutual jollies. Just plain old mortal sin of sodomy. Nothing to see here now move along. Even old Hourigan seems to have left the courtroom.

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6.15
You’ll never be my navigator, cos you’d struggle to find the right way down a one-way street.
I wasn’t speaking of Purcell and Dargan, but of the diocesan priest ‘contemplating’ (the pretentious word used by Romanists) addmittance to the Cistercians while Purcell was alledgedly an abbot and, therefore, in a, erm, senior position to said diocesan priest.
You dig?

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3.43: Hooligan’s script writer is on vacation in Mt. Mellary: praying for guidance!!!. He is orchestrating more affadavits, looking for brown envelopes for payment…..he is a nasty christian, lacking integrity.

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7 36: Hi Mags Wagsy….Romanist is the indicator….Hourigan is becoming a lost soul, an embarrassment and a f*****g idiot.

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Sometimes somebody needs to be seen to do the right thing for the greater good, even though it might cost them something, Purcell should do the right thing and stand aside until the allegations that stand against him can be looked at independently and thoroughly. But, just to tough it out and be arrogantly dismissive of anyone or anything that does not suit your own self-interest is toxic and incredibly damaging. by doing so he compounds whatever sin they may have already committed. No decency, no honesty, no integrity, no self-respect, no respect for others, just overarching self interest. Nichols is in a similar boat. No wonder we are all abandoning this corrupt Barque of Peter.

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3.15 Church is not dead yet 1.2 Billion World Wide, 3.7 Million in Ireland, 678,462 in Northern Ireland, 5.2 Million in England and Wales and in Scotland 841,053.
Long may the ship sail and continues to grow sadly not in European countries.

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Well, notwithstanding the appearance of a superannuated old fart, he talks a lot of sense. For me, as a life-long Guardian reader and Labour voter, the BBC, as well as the NHS, had been a hallmark of faith. Many Brits put as much trust in these twin institutions as the Irish had placed in the RCC – and we all know how that went. The NHS has recently achieved its ultimate apotheosis as our national religion during the COVID 19 “crisis”; this will be its undoing. The parallel but not dissimilar religion promoted by the BBC, as funded by its licence-payers, who are far more “diverse” than the BBC will ever be, is “woke culture”. Meanwhile the quality, range and outreach of its programming have been on the skids at least since the eighties when Granada and Channel 4 were putting out far better and cutting-edge programmes.
I trust the relevance to the concerns of this blog is apparent. As with the RCC, don’t take the claims to virtue of any organization – or indeed individual – at face value: scratch the surface, and you’ll see what they’re really like.

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I was on a retreat directed by Mark Kirby some years ago. Everyone was raving about how inspiring for me, but, for some reason, he gave me the creeps. Now I know why. It was the same inner feeling I got years ago when I used to see Jimmy Saville on TV.

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If a social worker or a guard or a doctor or a teacher has it off with a man in the Boilerhouse it’s ok. If someone who has taken a vow of celibacy does it then it is wrong and they should be dismissed and stop living a lie. If it’s suddenly ok then there will not be a priest shortage if all the ex-Seminarians are taken back.

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Pat, there was a wee Scottie lassie there on the news and she sounded like Wee Nicola Krankie on helium. Och, Pat, where are all the wee Scotties on the wee blog? Wull ye no come back agin wee hens? Not a wee peep of a Scottie in ages. Ah dae miss tha wee greetin voices.

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@2:34 pm
“As for Robert Hourigan we only know what he writes and never about himself apart from being from the bogs of Kerry”.
Indeed.
@3:43 pm
I have had very busy day. It is only now that I am in a position to catch-up with some of the commentary on the blog. The age difference is wholly inconsequential. It was an abuse of abbatial authority. And, if they are prepared to cover-up this behaviour — what else are they prepared to cover-up? But, it is not my opinion that counts — ….
@6:20pm
I am happy to confirm I am nowhere near Mount Melleray Abbey. Ironically, Pat Buckley received more information about Mount St. Joseph Abbey in a telephone call some days ago, and that in due course may-be the subject of an affidavit.
If you are going to be insulting – please be more original — “a nasty christian” really does not cut the mustard. Lacking integrity, we all lack integrity, however, unlike Richard Purcell and other individuals; I did not embrace the monastic life with its commitment to chastity.

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I agree with you, Robert, about the alleged behaviour being incompatible with priestly and religious life. But are you certain he was the abbot at the time the alleged sex took place?

ND tried his vocation with the Cistercians 20 years ago. Purcell wasn’t ordained at that stage – never mind abbot. They would have been in their late 30s and early 20s respectively.

How could he abuse his abbatial authority if he wasn’t the abbot? If anything, ND had more “standing” than Purcell as he was already a priest for about 11 years by that stage?

Dargan’s clerical “career” has been a bit like Lannigan’s Ball – stepping in and stepping out again. He has now left the priesthood which, if the alleged behaviour is true, is the right thing for him.

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I am not going to make any comment about Neil Dargan. However, all I will write is that Purcell’s behaviour is completely incompatible with the obligations of solemn monastic profession and/or the priesthood.

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Robert Hourigan at 8:22pm. I agree with you about Purcell’s behaviour if what he is accused of is true.

But can you tell us that you know for certain that the alleged sex in the kitchen took place when Purcell was abbot?

Because, if it did, then it was more recent. And yes it would be an abuse of abbatial authority – no matter what the age difference – IF he was abbot.

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7.21: Mr. Hourigan, who cares about your so called hard day’s work….doing your nasty orchestrating again…listening to your script writer? Have a look at the hard work of parenting and you’ll know what “hard” really means..Yes, you are a nasty Christian. Sadly, smug, self righteous individuals like you invariably fail to see their own moral and spiritual deficiencies and give themselves an authority to say what they like. That’s not JUSTICE. Your arrogance doesn’t cut mustard with me. I, along wuth many, many others share your “moral” outrage at any abuse, wrong doing, criminal or otherwise. You do not have a monopoly on outrage. However, your harsh, judgmental and relentless pursuance of “failed” monks or clerics is unacceptable. And we all know Jesus cracked the whip at hypocrites but he didn’t leave them for dead on the roadside nor disturb the dead in their graves. You have written an ocean of narratives – repetitively – about Mt. Mellary, Silverstream and Glenstal that you must be exhausted. Do you expect a law suit against you?? All of us desire integrity of conscience and I feel you lack such at the moment in your hounding after those who, while much is expected of them as religious, are obviously flawed human beings, like most of us, and require help and therapy where necessary and a complete “metanoia” with God’s grace.. Surely, the civil authorities ought to be told if “criminal abuse” of any kind has occurred.? If I were to treat some people in my life with such contempt and nastiness, I’m sure I’d be responsible for destructive, self harm decisions taken by others because of bullying, harrassment and intimidation.

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Well, I am grateful for your kind words describing me as a “nasty Christian”. To be frank, I really do not care whether my arrogance in your subjective opinion is cutting any mustard.
You see that kind of posting that you have just made is really advantageous to my cause — it annoys people, it makes them provide me with information. My inbox this afternoon received a number of very interesting e-mails that have been shared with Pat Buckley.
I am pleased to confirm I am not exhausted — in fact, I am invigorated. As I utilise speech recognition software — Dragon Group of Professional Version 16, I am able to utilise my time effectively.
In answer to your question, NO, I am not expecting a lawsuit, but it is always best to be prepared. In fact, I would greatly welcome the issuance of legal proceedings from Purcell and others, because it would allow me the opportunity to present my evidence before a High Court judge and a jury. If there was anything untrue about what I have written about Richard Purcell — he would greatly welcome the opportunity to expose me as a contemptible liar. However, he has not chosen to do so, but he is welcome to do so at any time.
Well, some but not all persons desire “integrity of conscience”, but Purcell’s behaviour was not a one-time occurrence. I am happy to accept that I am contemptible and nasty — because, I am writing the truth.
Richard Purcell can issue a public denial of the accusations through the auspices of the Father Immediate, Dom Michael Ryan, OCSO, the abbot of Bolton Abbey. A statement can be made on the website of Mount Melleray Abbey, on the Abbey’s Facebook page, and the home page of the website of the Cistercians of the Strict Observance.
However, if Purcell is serious about a “metanoia”, he would do the honourable thing and resign as the Abbot of Mount Melleray Abbey, and return to the life of a simple monk, saying mass privately, and leading a life of obscurity, and never leaving his monastery, and agreeing to a permanent prohibition on his use of the phone, Internet, and all forms of social media.
So instead of rabbiting on about yours truly on Pat Buckley’s blog this evening, I suggest you have a large whiskey and turn your outrage to Purcell’s behaviour instead of being so condemnatory of mine. Then, have another large whiskey, and you will sleep so much better.

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Hooligan at 8.46: your last paragraph, I’m afraid is a case of your mask of honour slipping. It reveals your bitchy, nasty side. Pretty miserable, indeed. Perhaps some spoken truths about you are just painfully all too truthful!

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8.46: You can rage all you like Ribert about your spiritual and moral sensitivities being hurt but making a definitive judgment about anyone is not your gift. You are awaiting, promising, expecting and emailing so much that you are tiresome. I do not believe any potential law suit could be taken in any just, fair or balanced way because of the allegations, bias, scurrilous comments made by you. Perhaps you may be a good Christian but I wonder which “God” you proclaim to represent? if it is the God of Jesus Christ, you have chosen selective passages to justify your actions. I do not condone any wrong doing, ever, but I would not publicly humiliate, hound after or feel it my role to crucify any sinner. Where there is proven criminal abuse of any kind, I trust the civil jurisdictions to dispense justice, not a catalogue of condemnations from a wounded “christian”..and I would have no hesitation in contacting civil authorities re: knowledge 8f abuse, as i have done twice in my life.

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Can you imagine a world free, absolutely, of Cistercians and Benefictines, and ALL Romanist clergy! These ULTIMATE parasites, scroungers, and moochers?
J bloody C, the freedom!
Throw off the shackles of parasitical ROMANISM, a vile evil not intended by Christ.
Just thinkin’. (Oh! Like.😊)

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Indeed I can Magna.
But a better thought might be to imagine a world without religion. Some think however that our human evolution has developed a “need/dependence ” for some “mystical solution” to our knowledge of our vulnerabilities, particularly the inevitability of death.
So if religion was absent, maybe its a moot point as to what might replace it?
It’s fascinating, and very instructive to listen to Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Stephen Fry, Lawrence Krauss , Aaron Ra and similar polymaths debate such issues. There’s many such debates easily found on YouTube and I recommend “He that has ears to hear, let him hear, etc etc”
MMM
PS: Perhaps Jeremiah 5:21 might also be appropriate “None so blind etc, etc”!

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