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SILVERSTREAM EMAILS LEAKED TO ROBERT HOURIGAN.

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Sarah is a very strange lady. She is a student of Canon Law and a member of the USA Canon Law Society.

She is the ex representative of the Silverstream whistle blower. Should a student be representing someone?

She is also very emotionally involved with the young monks of Silvdtstream.

AS YOU WILL SEE, SHE IS NO FAN OF MINE 🙂

EMAIL FROM SARAH TO ABBOT BRENDAN COFFEY.

“Sarah: To Brendan Coffey 18 Oct, 2020, 

Dear Abbot Brendan,  

Thank you for your email.  

I do hope our communication can clear up some of this confusion and bring the negative misinformation to an end. I have removed Dom Alcuin from this email as it seems to me that it contains little that directly concerns him. If you disagree, you may forward this message to him. The term “sexual abuse” has a specific legal definition, and its own definition in the popular imagination. Certain actions of a person can be simply inappropriate or unwise, but when those actions occur within a relationship in which there exists an unequal power differential, those inappropriate behaviors can quickly cross the line into the legal definition of sexual abuse. In the motu proprio Vos estis lux mundi issued last year, postulants and novices in the religious life are classified as vulnerable persons.  

Whether Dom Mark Kirby’s actions reached the threshold of abuse considered under that motu proprio or by civil law, I am not in the position to judge. I do understand that many who do not work within the realm of safeguarding and professional conduct are prone to hear this term as referring only to direct sexual activity.  

But when Dom Benedict and I first began to discuss the recent events at Silverstream he used the term “sexual harassment” with me. It is my understanding that he has largely used the term “sexual harassment” with people familiar with the crisis at Silverstream. The police detective who interviewed him suggested that “sexual harassment” is the proper term in Irish law.  

It is also, in fact, the only term used in the leaked message on Mr. Buckley’s blog. It was Bishop Deenihan himself who requested that Dom Benedict clarify in his complaint whether the behavior he was reporting was sexual in nature. Based on what Dom Benedict told me I believe he was correct to characterize the behavior as sexual, though in professional terms which covers a broad range of actions.  

It is difficult to adequately explain the nature of Dom Benedict’s complaint with only a single term, which is one reason why he opened up to friends and advisors concerning specific incidents, such as in the leaked message, seeking their evaluation of the boundary of misconduct. Dom Benedict and I only discussed the events of Silverstream in terms of sexual abuse in the past month, in light of Vos estis and his own discussions with his psychologist.  

I can tell you that when the terms “sexual abuse” and “sexual assault” were used on Pat Buckley’s blog in August, Dom Benedict was quite surprised. Why Mr. Buckley used these terms I do not know, but I want to make clear that the language he used did not originate from Dom Benedict.  

I do understand completely how unhappy the community of Silverstream must be to have Mr. Buckley discussing them and putting their pictures on his blog. My own husband, in fact, is a clergyman, so I do know personally how much anxiety being the subject of such a blog can cause. I am also quite horrified at the way some of the comments discuss the monks and speculate on their activities.  

As I can see that Mr. Buckley moderates the comments, I hold him personally responsible for allowing such things to be posted on the internet. But like I said, Dom Benedict and I have no control over Mr. Buckley’s actions.  

Though in some cases it is wiser not to further agitate the troublemakers, I do not like it at all. I had also hoped that Mr. Buckley’s blog post of 28 September would have corroborated Dom Benedict’s previous declaration that he did not communicate with Mr. Buckley. Mr. Buckley states, and I quote, “I tried to contact the monk. He was completely unwilling to communicate with me. He refused all communication with me, told me had nothing to say to me and not to contact him ever again?  

I am therefore unhappy to learn that the monks at Silverstream are nonetheless furious with Dom Benedict over that blog post, apparently blaming him for its existence. It is understandably possible that they have been told not to view that blog, but it would seem that whoever informed them of that post did not also relate Mr. Buckley’s words about being utterly shut down by Dom Benedict. In the comments section of that post there are clearly people connected to Silverstream making comments and offering to contact Mr. Buckley with more information. It seems entirely unfair that Dom Benedict is being falsely accused of something, while the people making that accusation seem to be engaging in that very behavior. It is very hurtful to Dom Benedict to see this, and it is also, as you point out, very alarming that people connected to Silverstream are talking to Mr. Buckley at all.  

I understand that there is a feeling that only Dom Benedict’s side of the story is being aired. But Dom Benedict has sworn that he does not publicly release any information. Mr. Buckley himself states that Dom Benedict has refused to speak to him. And I also have sworn that there is no communication of these matters coming from myself. I am at a loss as to how to do more to impress upon those at Silverstream that their anger directed at Dom Benedict here is misplaced. I would also like it to be pressed upon the whole community at Silverstream that they themselves also can not engage in such behavior, and that they themselves should exercise discretion in communicating to third parties who may be in contact with Mr. Buckley.  

To bring further clarity to the matter of the leaked message in that post: Dom Benedict and I have discussed how this came into the possession of Mr. Buckley. Our reticence to reveal the details is because Dom Benedict no longer possesses the original message. He believes it was a message sent back in May on WhatsApp connected to his old Irish number. He can no longer access this. He believes he remembers who the message was sent to, but without being able to confirm that, he does not want to name someone who may actually be innocent. However, who he believes he sent it to is someone whom you yourself would likely heartily agree is a person who could be trusted with discussing such personal and confidential information. Perhaps the person simply did not exercise good care and allowed the message to be accessed by a third party. Nonetheless, Dom Benedict is himself upset that this person betrayed his trust and wishes to make it clear to you that he has in fact acted with great discretion concerning who he confides such details with.  

Dom Benedict has little to comment on concerning Abbot Purcell. He had no personal contact with Abbot Purcell while he was in Ireland, and simply has no information which directly contradicts the things Mr. Buckley is saying. It is quite unfortunate that the visitation has stirred together so many things for Mr. Buckley to speculate about. My hope is that Dom Benedict’s statement will remove that portion of the narrative. Therefore, it seems to me that for the statement to combine them in any way would be counterproductive.  

As for the “French letter,” Dom Benedict has shared it in strictest confidence with only a few people, one of whom is you. He only shared portions of its contents with me last month; he only brought it up with me in connection with our discussion of what happened at Silverstream and exploring his own reactions to it. He brought it up with his parents as well, and to one other person, a priest, in the context of pastoral guidance.  

The account of Dom Mark Kirby’s childhood trauma came not from the French letter, but from a personal conversation between Dom Mark and (then) Subdeacon Benjamin, in Tulsa in the summer of 2010. If Dom Mark does not wish people to know the graphic details of his childhood abuse, he ought not freely tell people about it. I actually learned of this incident back in February of this year, when Dom Benedict spoke on the phone with my husband and I concerning his growing difficulties at Silverstream. I had a great deal of concern about that incident then, both in terms of the power differential and the psychological impact being told such details would have on an impressionable young man but did not then bring up those concerns to Dom Benedict as I did not think it was my place to pry into the inner relationships of the monastery. I do not know if that conversation in Tulsa an isolated incident was or if Dom Mark frequently recounts the details of his abuse to people. But I do know that he cannot expect that to remain private if he himself exercises no care in who he tells that story to.  

All the other details of Dom Mark’s past which appeared in Dom Benedict’s leaked message, including the sexual history, came not from the French letter, but from other conversations which Dom Mark had with Dom Benedict over the years. Such conversations were also possibly quite unwise for a Prior to have with one of his own monks. But again, Dom Mark cannot freely share information and expect that it can later be withdrawn from the world’s memory. As for the French letter itself, everything else in it is, as far as I know, of little present consequence. The letter was itself sent to Dom Benedict by Dom Mark himself. Most of it is, again, things which Dom Mark himself freely discussed with Dom Benedict. Dom Benedict has no interest in using it maliciously. The letter has already been shared with all the people Dom Benedict believed needed to be aware of it. So, I’m not sure what effect deleting it from his hard drive would have. From a purely legal standpoint, I believe such an action could look incriminating if later some actual threat should surface from this letter. It is better, I believe, to simply let things rest where they are. I understand that Dom Mark is anxious about people having copies of this letter, and how it could be used. Dom Benedict will be writing to Dom Mark and assuring him that he has no interest in using this document as a weapon against him, now or in the future. I am happy to hear that there is no prohibition of communication on the members of Silverstream. Dom Benedict is saddened to learn that their silence has been because of their “fury” towards him. He has previously sent two letters of apology, one in June and one in August, which received no response. In the interest of having some measure of healing, the lines of communication are important. It seems that those lines of communication did not happen in time for Dom Benedict to enter his voice about Dom Cassian’s profession. Though we understand that this can require time and a repair of trust, Dom Benedict would like Dom Elijah to make him directly aware of important happenings of Silverstream. In this regard, Dom Benedict would like to write a letter to the whole community of Silverstream in advance of the issuing of any public statement. He feels that they should hear his voice first, and not have to hear his message from others. We hope the missal can be found. It is a smaller altar missal that Dom Benedict used mostly in his office. It had tiny pages of Benedictine propers (from an all Latin hand missal) inserted at the end. If there is space in the box, Dom Benedict would also like any personal letters and cards addressed to him to be included.  

Regarding the celebret, and also the current travel restrictions placed on travel from America, Dom Benedict wishes to know if it is possible for Bishop Deenihan to issue a new celebret for the Archdiocese of New York. The last email Dom Benedict sent the bishop went unanswered, so I am bringing this up here. I also want it to be clear that this request is obviously a temporary measure until other arrangements can be finalized. This also possibly reopens the question of mass stipends. There is also another old point that I should mention. Dom Benedict still does not have access to the online Matins propers which are needed for the recitation of that Office by a monk of Silverstream. This came up in an email communication last month, and you said you would communicate with Silverstream about it. Dom Chrysostom was producing them when Dom Benedict was last there. As the access has not yet been restored, I ask that you communicate with Silverstream again about this. Below is a draft of a statement Dom Benedict and I created together. Input from public relations professionals is a generous offer, but I am unsure how wise it is to have officials of the diocese involved in crafting a statement which is supposed to be Dom Benedict’s own free voice. Such would, if Pat Buckley found out (and we must operate under the assumption that he will find out anything), suggest that there is indeed a “cover-up” being foisted upon the public, with the “victim” being used under threat. To dampen that possible outcome, I would like the text below to stay within a small circle of people. We operated under the assumption that Dom Mark is not, and will not be, the Prior. We are still uncertain about that point, however, but we hope that what is said is correct. Dom Benedict is also still concerned that there are people (such as oblate Robert Nugent) still suggesting he misappropriated funds with the PayPal account. We are uncertain how to address this in this statement. I understand that while the visitation is going on you yourself likely cannot make any public statement. But it would ease Dom Benedict’s mind greatly if it could also be publicly communicated that this matter is closed. Perhaps in the next newsletter it could be stated that the donations have been tracked and accounted for. This may also be good for all the donors to know. Dom Benedict would also like assurance that his statement will be taken in good faith, and that it will not be used against him. He does appreciate the fact that you recognize his right to make the initial complaint and make his voice heard, he simply wants it to be known that his actions were authentic.  

 We are clearly in a situation where there is very little trust on both sides, in particular between the community in Silverstream and Dom Benedict. I hope that for our part we can show that Dom Benedict truly is not trying to destroy Silverstream, which he helped to shape, nor for that matter, you, Abbot Purcell, Bishop Deenihan, or indeed the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland. Dom Benedict simply wants an end, as soon as humanly possible, to this whole sorry process, to move on from it, coming to a place of personal peace and canonical stability as a priest and monk. This is another lengthy email, for which I do apologize. I do understand that in the interest of the demands upon your time your replies may be quite briefer. By the prayers of St Luke the Evangelist, I hope this message finds you well,  

Sarah  

STATEMENT OF THE REV’D DOM BENEDICT 

Concerning the current situation of Silverstream Priory in the Diocese of Meath, Ireland, I wish to confirm that I was indeed the author of a letter of concern, dated 30 April 2020, addressed to Dr Tom Deenihan, the Bishop of Meath.  

Developments since then impress on me the desire to issue this public statement. As Silverstream is a diocesan monastic community, not directly under the Holy See, Deenihan is the individual, before God, ultimately responsible for the monastery. I wrote this letter of 30 April to the Bishop of Meath in fulfillment of my duties as (then) subprior of Silverstream, according to the Declarations and Statutes of Silverstream Priory as approved by the Holy See and the Bishop of Meath in 2017 and revised in 2019.  

Following these clear provisions and having attempted to bring my concerns to the Prior himself and then to the senior fathers of the monastery, I finally turned to the Bishop of Meath as the ultimate authority.  

I also, at the bishop’s request, gave a sworn affidavit concerning these matters to the Garda Síochána (the Irish police).  

A few days later, on 2 May 2020, Bishop Deenihan ordered a diocesan visitation of Silverstream Priory. I spoke in my complaint of dysfunctional patterns of acting and relating on the part of the former prior of Silverstream. These were actions which I believe violated both the spirit and the letter of the Holy Rule and certain articles of our own Declarations and Statutes.  

I wish to clarify that while my complaint contained grave concerns, the suggestion that those concerns included acts of sexual perversion or even sexual assault is not true. I also wish to make it clear that the misconduct I reported does not in any way characterize the community of Silverstream as a whole. As one present from the very beginnings of the community, I can with great confidence describe all of my brethren who have joined the community as living lives full of integrity and chastity, in full adherence to the precepts of Christian morality and the age-old traditions of monastic conversion. Though it pains me greatly to leave my community,  

I have judged it best to request from my superior, Abbot Coffey, and my ordinary, Bishop Deenihan, to begin the canonical process of finding a new context for my monastic and priestly vocations. I pray that my brethren may find peace and move forward under new leadership.  

Finally, this statement should not be understood as a retraction of my complaints concerning certain patterns of behavior on the part of the former prior of Silverstream, nor a resolution of the ongoing civil and canonical processes. I trust that this statement will clear up any confusion, or misinformation, concerning this matter. I have acted according to my conscience as a Christian, and the solemn duties laid upon me both as a senior father and subprior of Silverstream, as well as a founding member of the board of trustees of the charity established in Irish law. I have no regrets for the role I played in the founding of Silverstream Priory, and I retain many rich blessings from my decade as one of its monks. I trust that God, who began the good and holy work of Silverstream, will bring it to a happy fulfillment, for the salvation of all souls involved, and the strengthening of the Church in Ireland and the world.  

END OF STATEMENT. 

EMAIL OF COFFEY TO SARAH 19.10.20


Brendan Coffey brendan@glenstal.org To “Sarah
19 Oct, 2020, 2:39 am


Dear Sarah,


Unfortunately, more material has appeared on the Blog this morning regarding Silverstream in a strange parallel to our communications. I made it clear from the outset that no fruitful engagement is possible between us if this “noise” continued on the Blog or in the media,
regardless of its origin.


Given this situation the only possible way forward I now see is to await the outcome of
the civil investigations, which must be nearing their conclusion after so many months,and on foot of these findings take appropriate actions.


Many thanks for your efforts to resolve these matters,


Brendan


Brendan Coffey OSB
Abbot, Glenstal Abbey
Murroe, County Limerick, V94 A725 Ireland
061-621051

150 replies on “SILVERSTREAM EMAILS LEAKED TO ROBERT HOURIGAN.”

Good grief, who was instructing whom to get rid of a hard drive? We now know what all the exculpatory talk was about. Jeepers. This is serious stuff Bishop Buckley as opposed to Mr Buckley.

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12:21 pm, Have you ever heard of the phenomenon of Anglo-Catholicism? You might find it less than convincing, it it is a thing that’s existed since at least the time of the Oxford Movement in the early 19th century. It a good number of adherents, including members of this church, which broke from the Episcopal Church in the 1970’s over various issues.

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12.21
If ‘Anglican Catholic Church’ is an oxymoron then so, too, is ‘Roman Catholic Church’?😎

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Saw your blog on her & Coffey as I started my search. What I have found here is Anglican Catholic association which I never heard it before. Its news to me re Anglican Catholic. Her name is listed in 2019 newsletter of Anglican Catholic.
Appointments of Officers The synod consented to the following appointments:  Dr Frank Wiswall, (Original Province) as Chancellor;  Mrs Sarah Wagner-Wassen (St Boniface, Orvelte, The Netherlands) as Vice-Chancellor;  Dr Roy Fidge (St Mary and St Eanswythe, Dartford) as Diocesan Secretary;  Diocesan Treasurer – POSITION VACANT!!;  Endowment Investment Fund Secretary – appointment pending;  Mrs Margaret Mead (St Augustine, Painters Forstal) as Historian and Archivist;  Mr Roy Hipkiss (St Augustine, Painters Forstal) as Safeguarding Officer;  The Rev Gareth Parry (The Good Shepherd & St Tudwal, Conwy) as Assistant Safeguarding Officer;  The Rev Andrew Scurr (Our Lady of Walsingham and St Francis, Rochester) as Risk Assessment Officer  The Venerable Raymond Thompson as Chairman of the Board of Ministry;  The Rev Howard Marsh (Our Lady & St Edward Confessor, Bolton) as Northern Deanery Chaplain to the Anglican Catholic Fellowship;  The Venerable Raymond Thompson as Southern Deanery Chaplain to the Anglican Catholic Fellows
Her husband 👇
https://fathergregory.wordpress.com/about/
What I couldn’t understand was her role in silverstream and what has it got to do with it despite Anglican Catholic??? Was she a donator? What’s her role re Dom Benedict? Dom Benedict should have gone to his confessor or some priest outside for advice but he went to her. That’s something that I don’t get it. Am I missing something else?

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9.32am

I couldn’t resist it when I saw this one😜😜.

I will contribute less and less as times goes on. I am weaning my self off from this blog slowly as time allows it. Then, I Will read this blog from time to time until I get bored or not interested. This is a church’ militant’ with a different tack as opposed to main church militant full of trad and trump supporter. I got verbally attacked for supporting Biden. Trump is a cult following.

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Andrew Scurr was an oratorian who had some issues and had to “leave”. He joined the so called “Brighton Oratory”, a weird Latin mass group run by a old Catholic bishop who is known on the Brighton Drag scene (You couldn’t make it up!!!).
Andrew had a tiff with Archdragqueen Jerome Lloyd OSJV and joined the Anglican Catholics.
£50 says he’ll joined another group in 2 years after he develops issues with the Anglican Catholics.

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Bank Of England (via Edinburgh), I see it now. Mrs Margaret Mead will be the only one of them who’ll have any work left. BTW is he the one who’s going to re-audit the priory’s re-fiddled accounts on behalf of up to five bishops?

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Bishop Pat, any idea what countries are on the updated travel “Green list” ?
How many angels are on top of a needle?
Who is Ms. Wagner Wassen, her role, involvement and denomination?
Thanks.

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1 – I thought it ill advised of WW to turn to Coffey of all people (except about things like belongings) when she also doesn’t want their diocese putting its oar in.
2 – Will Dom Benedict be able to get his “dowry” out?

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I’m guessing here but I suspect, with a comment like that, that you are from the Silverstream community.

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No, their system of “I’ll play along with you if you play along with me” which is identical to most church factions and what most administration and commerce also attempt, is coming apart.

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I have to hand it to you, Pat. Your blog is expert at the slow, gradual reveal. I wonder what else is going to come out?

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Bishop Pat doesn’t dilly-dally around.
Such full and stark revelations as those which are currently unfolding are worthy of opening that packet of posh biccies one keeps on the top shelf!
Incidentally, that which is cruely and dishonestly concealed will be revealed in the fullness of the light of day.
It is the Lord who speaks.
Blessed be the name of the Lord x

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What auditors audited the priory accounts we saw? Will they issue a public statement regarding their role in that and in the issuance of revised accounts IDC – and who will audit the latter?

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This Sarah Wanker-Wassen has a cheek referring to Bishop Buckley as “Mr Buckley”. She wouldn’t be so impertinent about the bishops in her Anglican Catholic Church.

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So Coffey was able to conduct an investigation into Silverstream without talking to the complainant and is now using Pat’s blog as an excuse not to talk to him now and makes it quite clear in his email that he is waiting for things to blow over. It’s interesting to note that the email address you have for him is correct Pat and that he is capable of replying to emails.

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For 1,000,000 Euros-
The next leaked email in the Hurricane Hourigan saga in the Irish Catholic Church will emanate from the following :
A) An office
B) The office of a Bishop x 2
C) The office of an Abbot x 2
D) All of the above.
You can: ask the audience, do a 50/50, phone a friend, ask the quiz-master.

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Very, very strange goings-on at a men’s monastery in France at Currie en Chartreause . A survivor of “Currie ” group is being formed in 2021.So much to come out .

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I’m puzzled by the “Pat Says” part of your blog – how can you make some these comments on the basis of her ( long and rambling) email?
She might not be a fan of yours but how can you possibly ‘formed the opinion’ that she is a hysteric? (unless you know more about her other than the email)
Referencing her husband and their relationship is unjustified and uncalled for.

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Patricia says, Mick says , Malcolm and Dorothy says…
You have just formed your opinion- and you are entitled to do so, dear.
Just my opinion, sweety x

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“She is also very emotionally involved with the young monks of Silverstream.”
Text-book example of a faghaggery, Bp Pat.

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No surprises there. Elsie will be doing everything she can to put herself in a good light and to cling on. Maybe a Mafia solution is needed…..?!

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I’m sure Alexander DesForges dips in to this blog every now and again, so I hope that he is telling Nichols that his press is very toxic and that it really is time for him to go in to retirement. ADF has been there for quite a few years, so I suppose he is a bit worried that when his mentor Nichols goes he might be looking for a new job, so giving Nichols the bad news might not be in his own interests. Whatever. But, Nichols needs to go, one way or another. Tell him Alexander, please !

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Once again it strikes me in a picture where they haven’t been photoshopped out, that Nichols has a very distinctive pattern of red broken blood vessels on his nose and cheeks. I’m surprised because that is usually found after decades of outdoor working. You wouldn’t find them in a clergyman usually, unless there could be some other reason for them?
Is Nichols a frantically keen gardener?

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I get an impression elements have been “getting at” WW. Was it acquaintances of current Nuncio Okolo, who used to know people in Puerto Rico? Was it associates of previous Nuncio Brown, who is from New York, where one of her study places was situated? Was it the Pittsburgh or Grand Rapids element? Are there bad eggs in Patristics circles? The Nuncio to Belgium passed through Nigeria.
Is she trying to become a “Famous Belgian” and has this, sadly, made her susceptible? It is the height of stupidity on her part, to have the slightest dealings with that Coffey.

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“negative misinformation” double negative suggestion that the information Coffey has received is, in fact, the right information. Is that a Freudian slip?

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Busybody Sarah wrote, in the contxt of Dirty Dick’s involvement that, “It is quite unfortunate that the visitation has stirred together so many things for Mr. Buckley to speculate about.” she seems not to find the events themselves unfortunate. It is just Bishop Buckley’s speculation she finds unfortunate. Talk about shooting the messenger and missing the wood from the trees.

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I must admit that I was wearying of this stuff, but this email has breathed new life into it and I should have been more patient. Pat’s journalism training and natural abilities as a narrator have taught him how to let a story unfold and how to keep pressure on.
For me the new question is how many people knew of Dom Richard’s sexual activities when Deenihan decided to appoint Dom Richard to a Visitation intended to examine, among other things, gay sex in a monastic community?
If Deenihan knew why did he press on with using Dom Richard? Did he not think there might be a conflict of interest?
Why did Dom Richard not have the insight and humility to see that it was a hypocritical farce for him to be part of a Visitation.

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Thank you.
When you are tackling a very big and complicated issue you proceed in a certain way.
First you find an small open window to gain entrance and you proceed from there, step by step.

What’s that saying: “Softly, softly, catchee monkey”?

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The person who is leaving these inane comments about Connolly and Wilson can only be:

1) Brendan Marshall.
Or
2) Mark Moriarty.

Grow up!

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10.14: You are a stalker and stalkers are degenerate, mad, psychologically unwell people. Pat should not be facilitating any crackpot stalker. Prison us where sexual stalkers belong…

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There are few people more frightening, creepy and downright disturbing than stalkers. Pat should ban those madmen.

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Reading between the lines, Brendan’s reply suggests that he finds her a tiresome, verbose bore, who doesn’t understand that in the RCC you don’t commit anything to paper, don’t ask too many questions and wait for things to blow over.

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Interesting that the perpetrator returns to Silverstream and the victim is cast out and is reduced to begging Deenihan for a celebret so that he can say Mass in New York and also get Mass stipends to live on, now that he has lost everything. The Silverstream is angry with the victim and is shunning him, while the tabernacle message receiver will no doubt be treated as a prodigal son.
They just don’t get it.

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10:56 am, your comment reveals your ignorance of Eastern Orthodoxy. The OCA (the former Russian Metropolia, headed by illustrious men such as St Innocent and St Tikhon the Confessor) is in communion with the worldwide Orthodox Church, Constantinople, Greece, Russia, Antioch, Alexandria, Romania, Bulgaria, etc. etc. There is only a difference of opinion among the various churches about the exact status of its administrative independence.

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At 1:54pm
Did they have OCA in 19th century Russia? I think not! IS OUTRAGE!

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I want to make some quick points:
(Point 1) – The fact there is a reply from Coffey in the leaked emails would imply the email was leaked from the other side. (I.e Sarah’s side)
(Point 2) – A canon law student should NOT be representing anyone! (She should be reported to her college for misrepresentation)
(Point 3) – The monk pleading ignorance about who he gave the information to is worrying; that ignorance is not a defence. The personal nature of the information would indicate he knows exactly who he shared it. His defence is akin to “I did not commit the sin but I sent someone else the information to commit it for me.” This is morally reprehensible.<br /

Yours, Legal Eagle.

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Maybe the leaked emails emanate from the Meath area?

The whistle blower is not at all responsible for this leak. I know who is!

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Any idea why she refers to you as Mr Buckley, Pat? The most basic internet search brings up your correct title, Bishop Pat Buckley.

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Not necessarily, Pat. She’s Anglican. They use Mr for some of their male clergy. For example, a cathedral dean is referred as Mr Dean.

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Few things jumped out at me was:

1. Deleting it from hard drive.
2. Dom benedict doesn’t seem to trust SWW cos he turned to his friends instead.
3. Dom benedict sort of indicated problem with Dom Cassian profession? He not fit for vocation?
4. He’s being accused of misappropriated the funds with pay pal account by another monk.

5. Dom Benedict confirmed that he doesn’t know Purcell nor met him. Why did it concern coffey even to ask DB given the fact that DB doesn’t know Purcell. Its obvious that coffey was digging for Purcell re any info and defend him as well.
6. Think Coffey is toast cos he’s covering it up. Contact glenstal parent Council or group re himself cos he’s a teacher in school correct if im wrong there. He can’t be trusted if hes seen to be covering it up. That’s my take.

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11.35: Mr. Hourigan….”they hate” not “hates”…your repeat emojis as from other comments are a give away….fool.

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Has Dom Benedict got connections in Collegeville and / or Dundalk? Unless it was them landed him in this mess (quite likely) he’s going to need them now.

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I don’t think it is possible both to have connections in Collegeville and Silver stream?
Apart from anything else the whistle blower has an expressed interest in the moral integrity of religious communities. You merely have to lift a stone in Collegeville to find an abuser!

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There’s a whole floor in the Collegeville infirmary where the old abuser monks live together so that a eye can be kept on them.

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Gosh, I should think that Collegeville and Silverstream are a bit like matter and anti-matter, in terms of their vision of the Church and monastic life.

I cannot quite understand the reference to Dundalk. What would Dom Benedict have to do with Dundalk?

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A monastery that hijacks monks’ celebrets is just like the seminaries I heard of, that hold back the seminarians’ passports.

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Who is the Dom Alcuin referred to I wonder? Hopefully not Alcuin aka AuldQueen Scott M P Reid once described by the Italian press as the ‘papal sex deacon’.
Birds of a feather?

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The Aussie Peter Tatchell/Ben Elton lookalike who used to move in Trad circles in England and then disappeared?

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There is very little to the Alcuin Reid story other than that he had the misfortune of crossing paths with the Lord Abbot of Farnborough, about whose character and activities readers of this blog are quite familiar.

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I once read that Psychopaths and Sociopaths, who also have narcissistic personality disorder, are very ‘clever’ people in some regards.
On the surface they can seem quite convincing; but this is a superficial layer… scratch the surface and we see what lurks beneath. Yuck 🤮
However, it is their powers of deduction, cunning though they are, which often lead to them being caught out.
Only a full blown, dangerous narcissist, could genuinenly, wholeheartedly, believe that the whole world revolves around them.
Even the authorities are there to cover up any evidences of their abuses.
They really, really do believe this to be the case.
Now that is very scary! No?

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Yes, I can confirm that it was yours truly who provided the e-mails from Brendan Coffey to Pat Buckley. I, in turn got them from a number of sources who for reasons that people will appreciate must remain absolutely confidential; but I can confirm the e-mails were NOT given to Pat Buckley by the whistle-blower. A number of priests have been in contact with me to this morning to express their genuine shock and outrage at Coffey’s behaviour.
However, these e-mails and along with other correspondence do raise very serious questions about the abbatial tenure of Abbot Brendan Coffey. Of course, if Coffey had any decency/integrity, he would do the decent thing the greater good of his community and resign immediately. Please do bear in mind, Abbot Brendan Coffey, OSB, is the man who now has responsibility in the Congregation for the Annunciation for safeguarding having been appointed to that role by the Abbot President of that congregation. Does anybody think he has any legitimacy/credibility when he is calling for the destruction of evidence to be the person in charge of safeguarding for monastic congregation that oversees a number of schools? Discuss!
Of course, I am sure Abbot Brendan will be more than happy to explain his actions to officials from the Department of Education when this matter is formally brought to their attention during the early part of next week. As I indicated, I have previously contacted the parliamentary assistant to the Minister for Education.
Again, why was Abbot Brendan Coffey seeking a statement that was exculpatory of Richard Purcell? In light of what has occurred in his own Abbey, e.g., Gregory Collins — did he not for a moment contemplate that the allegations that had been made against Purcell might-be true? This touches upon his lack of judgement and insight.
Richard Purcell and Brendan Coffey need to resign as abbots. The longer they remain in office more scandal is going to emerge. In due course, somebody will sacrifice both of them on the altar of expediency.
What is emerging in the Irish church is deep-seated corruption that is ugly and unacceptable. It needs to be called out. Unfortunately, the Irish church seems unwilling or unable to deal with its own issues; this has been demonstrated repeatedly over the years. Poor leadership and a lack of faith is in evidence. Thus, that is why in due course these matters will be brought to the attention of the Charities Regulator and state agencies in due course.

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1.04: Mr. Hourigan, to ensure absolute clarity and accuracy about all issues which you have narrated on this blog along with Pat, I will, this afternoon, forward a precise and legally worded email to The Secretary of the Dept. of Education and Science, the Secretary for Minister Foley, the Charities Regulator and to the Garda Commissioner, drawing their attention to the content of this blog for the past month. I believe it is the correct and prudent course of action as the entities mentioned by you are entitled to all relevant connections, narratives and allegations made on this blog. I believe a forensic scrutiny of all correspondences is a priority in any responses that may be given by said professional entities. They must have the fullest and most reliable information.

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None of the Irish politicians and bodies have jurisdiction in Northern Ireland so Ulster folk can say what they like without that implied threat.

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3.21: Well done. It is imperative that ALL information, emails, letters etc…..be brought to the attention of civil authorities. Every piece of this jigsaw must now be part of any investigation. It is quite probable that in any correspondence to civil personnel, reference about the public judgments made on this blog were/are ommitted.

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1.04pm…..”In due course…” has become your favourite expression, Hoop La. I trust you prayed to God (if you truly believe) on this, the Lord’s a day for yourself to face your truth and for the guidance of the Holy Spirit for all monks in your sight…I certainly prayed for the Monks in Mt.Mellary, especially for your specified target!! God bless them all. I suspect today’s gospel didn’t touch you in any meaningful way! (the gospel is always for other failed sinners!!)..

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Bishop Pat what is your guess of the outcome of this saga giving it has been going on for months now.
Do you think in traditional Catholic style it will just blow over or resignations.
It is certainly a storm

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All eyes on the ordination of Stephen Wilson. Pat will you attend the ordination or the reception. I’m told Chris Derwin and Rory Coyle will be there.

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Hey, + Pat, can I have your autograph? This saga might go down in Irish Church history.
You’re already mentioned in Diarmaid Ferriter’s ” Occasions of Sin”! (LoL.)

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RP and BC are staying put as long as they can. They are only thinking for themselves at expense of whom? Bishop of Meath whose judgement in selecting RP and BC of glenstal for visitation purposes seems to be flawed, bit strange. I’m sure that RP and BC knew each other from being abbot’s in respective monasteries. This might suggest that BC went further lengths to cover for RP based on common religious grounds. What hold had RP over BC?
Did bc order the deletion of files from hard drive? If so, his lack of sound judgement, no common sense cos it would incriminate himself for destroying the evidence (if that’s the evidence?). Destroy the evidence for what? This is quite clear a cover up as courts would take a very dim view of it.
On money issues in silverstream, who benefits from it and why? Its seems to be an awful lot of money. Where did it go and why?
Looking at the photo of kirby as it seems to me that he might have some mental health issues. I’m quite surprised that cardinal nuke and vigano fell for his book. Read somewhere that someone wrote an article opposing kirby book. Also quite surprised that he’s back in silverstream which shouldn’t be cos investigations are ongoing. It’s like going back to the scene of crime there re Kirby. Then they booted out a whistle blower but kept kirby onside. Strange sense of tgeir priorities. For the sake of analogy., they kept a rapist inside and booted out a rape victim.

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It seems from the above that the conversational gambits of the then prior is a quite good reason in requesting a transfer, whatever else was in it. If monks were less passive, we would surely not have heard such an imbalanced report earlier. At Sunday afternoon Chapters Of Faults they are blaming each other about a lot of things, then they do or don’t decide during the week they are going to do something about it. What’s the fuss about a request for transfer? Is he supposed to be trapped there by captors? We would either hear about a range of trouble or perhaps not hear anything.

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Good Lord, I am getting confused with all my monasteries ! It seems like pretty much every monastery in Ireland and in the UK is involved in some sort of shenanigans. Is it the same with Priories, Friaries, Oratories and other Congregations ? I know on here that there has been news of various Dominicans and Redemptorists, some Oratorians and others who have been up to no good, gone MIA, returned, rehabilitated etc. But, for how long ? The whole edifice seems to be rotten to the core. How are we to take them seriously and to trust them ?

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Bishop, remember when you were writing about Maynooth and the strange goings on? Where was it one of the main player’s went on retreat before returning to Maynooth that year and tweeted from and the tweet appeared on your blog? Oh yes, Roscrea. Who was Abbot at the time?

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It was the fellow from the north and it contained a photo of the grounds or something

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Can someone who’s good at plainchant please turn “Goodbye Joe, you gotta go, me oh my oh” into an antiphon and send it to Glenstal

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Bishop Pat, thanks for removing the misogynistic comments.
Can you share what was in SWW’s now-deleted Facebook post of October 31 which you commented on?

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When are these self-interested Abbots resigning? Even with the eyes of clerical gossips on them see how brass necked they are.

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Nobody cares about Scotland with its manly looking women and it’s skirt wearing men. Go start your own blog!

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It’s quiet but answers still needed on a number of things.
1) Is Tartaglia getting an auxiliary and if not when is he going? He is letting the place fall apart.
2) Any update on the cleric that appeared in court not that long ago?
3) Why are Paisley ignoring questions surrounding the gay sem and his antics? He is rumoured to be back on Facebook and acting as promiscuous as ever.
4) Any update on the relationship between the Glasgow priest and the Paisley priest?
5) Is Joe Toal back to good health?

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5.11 1. No as he want him to have right of succession, and + Philip is not retiring till at least 2026 and hopes to be Cardinal. 2. Still awaiting court time due to Coronavirus maybe in the New Year. 3. He is suppose to be in Scots College and says it is all just gossip. 4. They are just good friends the canon and the Monsignor. 5. Bishop Toal is still very active but failing eye sight he has got a priest living with him now however Bishop Toal needs an operation on his eyes and should really go private but likely afraid to after Bishop Devines 40K nose

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Who was Abbot Brendan recommending to write Dom Benedict’s statement? And if Dom Benedict have permission were these professionals also going to say how marvellous Abbot Richard was.
“Input from public relations professionals is a generous offer, but I am unsure how wise it is to have officials of the diocese involved in crafting a statement which is supposed to be Dom Benedict’s own free voice.”

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Who are the ” Bangor Monks” who threatened to harm Bishop Pat
and damage his property, when this story initially broke on his blog?

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Finally other people who read this blog are belatedly coming to the realisation that the church is rotten to the core.
I don’t agree with the forecasts of resignations. Abbot Coffey will become a bishop. Obviously the outcome at Silverstream depends on the civil investigation.

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Do G and Dr Narcissist really believe there is no invstg and it’s all over?
They can’t be that stupid, surely?!

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