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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN ABBOT IS INNOCENT ?

Abbot Cuthbert Madden.

CNA Staff August 26, 2020

The Vatican has ruled that the abbot of Ampleforth Abbey in North Yorkshire, England, should not return to his community, four years after he stepped aside during an investigation into allegations against him.

Fr Gabriel Everitt, the abbey’s prior administrator, announced the Holy See’s decision concerning Fr Cuthbert Madden in a letter to the Ampleforth Society, a 16,000-strong group with ties to the Benedictine monastery.

“The Holy See has studied the case carefully, including the external scrutiny of Ampleforth and the fact that Fr Cuthbert’s mandate as Abbot expires in January 2021,” Everitt wrote.

“It does not support his return to Ampleforth as Abbot or as a resident member of the community but wishes him to be free to live in a Benedictine community of his choice with the consent of the host Abbot.”

The ruling was reported by the British Catholic weekly The Tablet on August 25.
Madden was first elected abbot in 2005, then re-elected in 2013 for a second eight-year term. He stepped aside in August 2016 after allegations of indecent assault were lodged against him, while strenuously denying the claims.

North Yorkshire Police investigated the allegations, concluding their inquiries in November 2016. They brought no charges against Madden.

His case was then examined by the Catholic Safeguarding Advisory Service Review Panel which did not find any sexual misconduct.

The Vatican had delegated the authority to reinstate Madden as abbot to Fr Christopher Jamison, Abbot President of the English Benedictine Congregation. Jamison decided that he could not reinstate Madden and referred the case back to the Holy See.
Madden sought to challenge the decision at the UK’s High Court, but his claims were struck out in January this year after a two-day hearing.

Everitt wrote: “The Holy See has now concluded its review of Fr Cuthbert Madden’s case and has tried to respect the rights of all those involved. They observe that Fr Cuthbert has not committed any canonical delict nor been convicted of any civil crime and that while sanctions were not imposed, restrictions were appropriate as part of normal safeguarding procedures. Those restrictions will now be reviewed.”

He said that Jamison was helping to facilitate Madden’s move to another Benedictine community of his choice. He also announced that the election of a new abbot of Ampleforth would take place in 2021.

A spokesperson for Ampleforth Abbey said: “The Holy See has concluded its review of Fr Cuthbert Madden’s case, referred to it by the Abbot President of the English Benedictine Congregation. It noted that, while it was appropriate to impose restrictions as part of normal safeguarding procedures, Fr Cuthbert has not committed any canonical delict nor been convicted of any civil crime.”

“These restrictions, in line with standard practice, will now be reviewed. Fr Cuthbert sought a review of the process through the English courts who decided that his claims could not go to trial.”

Fr Christopher Jamison, Abbot President of the English Benedictine Congregation, said: “I am pleased that this matter has been concluded and that Ampleforth can now prepare for the election of a new abbot.”

CNA was unable to reach Madden for comment.


Ampleforth Abbey, founded in 1802, is one of Britain’s best-known monastic communities. Its former abbots include Cardinal Basil Hume, who served as Archbishop of Westminster from 1976 to 1999.

Ampleforth College, an independent school also established in 1802, has produced notable alumni such as Downton Abbey creator Julian Fellowes, Rugby World Cup winner Lawrence Dallaglio, and actors Rupert Everett and James Norton.

The school was the subject of a highly critical report by the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) in 2018.

Concluding his letter to Ampleforth Society members, Everitt wrote: “At this time, I ask you to remember in your prayers all concerned and to pray for victims and survivors of abuse. Fr Cuthbert would like me to pass on his thanks to you all for your past and continued support of the work of the Abbey and he assures you of his continued prayers.”

“We will now prepare for the abbatial election in January 2021 and I ask for your prayers for Ampleforth as we look to the future.”

THE STRANGE ROLE OF ABBOT GENERAL JAMISON.

Worth Abbey

Worth

Worth Abbey and Worth School were initially created as the preparatory school for Downside. In 1995, Father Andrew Brenninkmeyer was suspended following complaints that he had sexually abused other monks, including Father Jonathan Monckton, who left the monastery in 1987 after no action was taken against Father Brenninkmeyer. Father Moncton was not the only complainant.

In 2001, Father John Bolton was suspended for hugging a boy inappropriately. Father John died on 26 June 2013.The headmaster at the time was Father Christopher Jamison, who is currently Abbot President of the English Benedictine Congregation.

On 5 June 2018, the IICSA determined that its case study of the English Benedictine Congregation would not include Worth School and Abbey because the evidence in regard of Downside and Ampleforth is sufficient to address the English Benedictine Congregation.

PAT SAYS

This is the most confusing and worrying case.

Abbot Madden was cleared by the police and by a church investigation and yet he is sentenced to not being allowed back to his abbacy and has to move to a new monastery if the abbot there accepts him!

Is this not a case of sentencing a man who has been found not guilty?

Abbot General Jamieson played a big role in allowing Father Andrew Brenninkmeyer to be missing from Worth for a long time when he was in charge of Worth.

AND WHO WAS INVESTIGATING MADDEN?

Coffey

None other than our own tainted Brendan Coffey of tainted Glenstal!!!

Coffey, the Great Inquisitor of Silverstream was appointed the Visitor of Ampleforth in 2018!

Friends and supporters of Abbot Madden are very angry with Coffey.

Purcell Protector Coffey!

ROBERT HOURIGAN’S LETTER TO THE SUPERIOR OF ROSCREA.

Purcell

Dear Fr. Malachy,​

I am not surprised by the lack of a response to my list of questions directed to the Principle of the Cistercian College, Mr. Grealish. As the monastic superior of Mount St. Joseph Abbey, I presume you will have no objection to my list of unanswered questions being formally submitted to the Minister for Education and her officials. Then,​ Mr. Grealish can answer those questions to the appropriate officials from that department.

Some, (but not all) of the e-mails evidencing that Abbot Brendan Coffey of Glenstal Abbey was seeking an exculpatory statement on behalf of Dom Richard Purcell, the former Abbot of Mount St. Joseph Abbey were given to Pat Buckley, and they have been published on his blog. ​

Why was the Abbot of Glenstal seeking an exculpatory statement on behalf of Richard Purcell, the former Abbot of Mount St. Joseph Abbey? Could it be the case that Richard Purcell, did have consensual anal sex in the monastery guesthouse of Mount St. Joseph Abbey with an ex-priest of the diocese of Killaloe?​

Would you care to confirm or deny the allegation? Of course, if you deny the allegation, why did the ex-priest speak about the “act” when he was a priest in good standing of the aforesaid diocese?​ Your profile on the Cistercian College website indicates that your undergraduate degree focused on the area of moral theology, and your postgraduate degree focused on the area of bioethics. Would you care to comment on the moral behaviour of Richard Purcell in the monastery guesthouse?​ Would you consider Purcell’s actions a form of institutional hypocrisy and contrary to the way of life expected of any Cistercian monk who has professed solemn monastic vows?​

This is all becoming very ugly. Of course, this could all be ameliorated by a public denial by Richard Purcell and/or his immediate resignation as the Abbot of Mount Melleray Abbey. The longer the situation continues the more intractable it will become.

Last week, Pat Buckley received a telephone call from an individual who stated that he was calling from the Roscrea area. The gentleman informed Pat Buckley that while Richard Purcell was the bursar of Mount St. Joseph Abbey, he, [Purcell] spent a conspicuous amount of money. The gentleman mused that the spending could be considered reckless profligacy. The gentleman further wondered to Pat Buckley — if Purcell’s spending had been subject to a proper accounting?

If we have learned anything from the experience of the church in Ireland and other parts of the world over the past two decades — financial impropriety often accompanies sexual impropriety.​

The individual (I infer that he is a priest) also made a pretty strong statement about the Abbot General, Eamon Fitzgerald, OCSO and that observation will be outlined in due course in a letter addressed to the Father Immediate of Mount Melleray Abbey, Dom Michael Ryan. ​

If the gentleman who called Pat Buckley is correct that Richard Purcell might not have been accurate with his accounting — would you welcome an independent financial audit of the finances of the abbey and the college covering the period that Richard Purcell was bursar and Abbot of Mount St. Joseph Abbey? If not — why not? Would you be prepared to explain any reticence to the Charities Regulator?

You will, of course, encourage the Abbot General, Dom Eamon Fitzgerald to confirm and deny what will be outlined in the letter to Dom Michael Ryan, OCSO.​

If the allegations against Richard Purcell are accurate, would you encourage him [Purcell] to step aside until an independent investigation takes place, and if the allegations are proven to be true; would you support the dismissal of Richard Purcell from the clerical state? If not — why not?​

Again, would you be prepared to explain your reticence on this matter to the parents that currently have children studying at the Cistercian College? Will you explain your reticence to the benefactors of the abbey and the college?​

Finally, Pat Buckley has indicated he is content to swear an affidavit setting out the salient facts of the conversation with the gentleman.

I am copying this e-mail to the Abbot General (an exercise in futility because of his on-going paralysis), Dom Michael Ryan, the Father Immediate of Mount Melleray Abbey, and Pat Buckley, who will probably publish this correspondence on his blog, because transparency is good for the church.​

Sincerely,​

J Robert Hourigan

126 replies on “WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN ABBOT IS INNOCENT ?”

“J” Robert Hourigan?
Been reading that English dictionary again dear.
Bog Kerry would be more understandable for us reading the Blog
Just sayin

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I am pleased to report that I have the twenty-volume Oxford English Dictionary (Second Edition) installed on my desktop and laptop. It is something that I consult on a daily basis. After all, I need to extirpate my ignorance coming from the bogs of Kerry.

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9.42: Now you, Hourigan, are becoming tedious, like Magna Carta from the past – but used by Pat to keep his blog going. Tiresome and repetitive.

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Mr Hourigan is not becoming “tedious” and he is nothing like that harridan the “Magna Carta” troll. More power to Mr Hourigan. They’re rattled – the evil wicked bitches – keep up the good work!!

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Mr. Hourigan. You are a nasty puece. A vivid fantasist. No Abbot should respond to your allegations. Go to the police if you have legitimate concerns. Go. Or go to Liveline or the Late, Late Show. Show us your public face and your moral courage. Be brave. Be moral. Be a man of principle.

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11.27: Mr. Hooligan is all huffing and puffing…all aglow with poofting and shouting and screaming…but a moral coward as he won’t post a photo of himself. That would be the test…Incidentally, I’ve forwarded my emails to Secretary of Norma Foley, Charities Regulator and Garda Commissioner to alert them to the shenanigans of this blog.

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Coffey is not too intelligent but he’s very sly. The sly side is hidden behind a cultivated gentle exterior. I’d love to know what’s raging inside.
He never really shed the diocesan priest persona in Glenstal. I think canon law didn’t help. He can’t think in other terms and he uses the law literally and rigidly. Law trumps theology for him. In short, he’s a safe pair of hands and he’ll always stand by the institution. He’s a fixer and will always keep his superiors happy with the reports he writes after visitations.

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Pat, did you ever find out why Gregory Collins did not return to Glenstal aftee his adventures in Jerusalem? Was he refused reentry? Did Coffey not want him back? Did the community not want him back? Or did this West Belfast papist just decide to become an Anglican like that? Sounds more like desperation to me.

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Undoubtedly desperation. He couldn’t get by in the real world. He needs his fix of dressing up, mincing around and feeling his magical gowns make him “special”.

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You have to wonder about the priests who turn Anglican. There never seems to be a positive reason for it. Rather there are “issues” involving women but mostly men. Turfed out of their Catholic clerical nest, the Anglicans are a port in a storm and it is business as usual, with only the company name on the headed paper changing.

Now to be fair to the Anglicans, there is traffic in the other direction. How many of the papalist Ordinariate crowd would have stayed had the general synod voted against lady vicars or if the Anglicans not guaranteed their pensions or if the pantomime dame Basil hadn’t told them they didn’t have to be boring old laymen but could have plum parishes and be seminary rectors, nay bishops?

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I think the problem was he wasn’t refused re-entry on one occasion too many 🤣🤣🤣

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Bishop, did you find out more about the African monk at Glenstall who was driven to Rawhide in Roscrea? What was that all about? Music lessons? Flute playing? Voice lessons?

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Who is the Glenstal monk teacher who is always taking photos of the boys? Sounds a bit dodgey, especially now with GDPR. Isn’t he also known for his close one to one friendships with teenage boys and young men? I believe it’s always dismissed by his brethren by saying he’s a big child at heart. Me thinks something more going on there psychologically and sexually. Ah jakers now, an infantalised repressed gay monk, pull the other one Denis, ya ould menace.

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Report it to the Bishops Conference Safeguarding team and Brendan Coffey will be hauled in to explain.
You need permission of parents to take photographs now.

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Pat, do you not find it odd that a Glenstal monk is teaching at Maynooth? A first. Maynooth and Glenstal were diametrically opposed for years. No contact between them. Now since Coffey is abbot there’s lots of contact, even St Luke on the staff. That should tell you a lot. Glenstal is being brought in from the cold hy Coffey only to serve the interests of the corrupt institution.

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Maynooth could do with some liturgists from Glenstal or from the Carmelites or one of those orders into liturgy.

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One of the curses of pre-concilliar seminaries is that they had a semi-monastic atmosphere and liturgical life, far removed from what it would be like in a parish, so we don’t need Glenstal’s ways in Maynooth.

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Yes very interesting indeed, particularly that they feel they weren’t trained in creating consensus, a mature means of communication alien to the priests who post here who are so ontologically changed they think everyone should just accede to their ramblings.

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Is part of this to do with Abbot Cuthbert Madden’s handling of the case in St Benet’s Hall, Oxford, the Oxford University private hall where the Benedictine monk Green (I have forgtten his first name) was a tutor? Green taught in other colleges too.
St Benet’s was run by Ampleforth and Madden was chair of the trustees. He let Green teach in St Benet’s for years, despite knowing that Green was subject to a Department of Education ban on teaching under-19s. Some undergraduate students were aged 17 or 18.
Green was eventually booted out of St Benet’s by its then Master, Leo Chamberlain OSB, after Green got handsy with a male undergraduate.

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Absolutely bizarre. If he can live in another monastery there is no apparent reason he can live in his own, unless there is an unspoken implication that he must live in a monastery without a school. The statement doesn’t actually say he hasn’t done anything at all, just not two specific things – I’m surprised at you Pat for not spotting this church-speak.
In that case usually a monk would live under restrictions in his own monastery.
What happens next will be very interesting because of how public Madden has made this by going to court, and as we know going public is breaking rule 1 of church omerta.
I think he will end up at Belmont or Buckfast. I doubt a monastery outside the EBC would take him because of the court thing, although I will laugh if he transfers to Glenstal!

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There muss be some kind of enmity, bitterness, animus between Jamison and Madden. Everything seems to have been on track for Madden to return and resume his duties, and then Jamison steps in and puts up obstacles. Why ? What were the obstacles ? Why frustrate what should have been a straightforward process of reinstating a man who had been accused, had been cleared by the police, and by the safeguarding people ? There is something else going on here, surely ? And again, because all this stuff is being discussed and acted on behind the scenes without any transparency, we are just left to wonder. Is it Jamison working out his own anger and frustration at having been kicked out of his abbacy by Worth after only one term – because he was never there, apparently ? He then went off to do a national vocations job – and we are still woefully inadequate in vocations, although no surprise given the toxic nature of priesthood these days. Jamison appears to be a troublesome and interfering figure who masks himself in some kind of benign spirituality and reputation. Perhaps we should dig below his surface a bit more ?

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Why doesn’t Cuthbert Madden say “stick it up your hole” and go back to his lucrative career as a surgeon. He should wipe the dust from under his feet and move on.

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@4:05pm Perhaps as well as any personal slight, he feels as former Abbot a deep sense of love and duty toward the monastery and monks that were in his care? It appears he has suffered a great injustice and his concern for souls that may now be prone to wolves deeply embedded in the church, if this is his motivation, would appear indeed justified.

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I have witnessed in person the “owing of favours” at another’s expense. It is a terrible and demoralising thing to behold. I suppose it went on in the triumphal and bungling days of Basil and we didn’t pick up on it well enough.
There must be huge things wrong if a person of the calibre described thinks he rules most of the church in Ireland and England and the latter do, too. It’s as if some party unknown sent Sarah to fix Abb. Coffey (fix the fixer) and that is why there was “parleying”. Meddlers (what St Paul told us not to be) love melodrama and deliberate ineptness.

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Is there an announcement today from Nuncio the new bishop later this week? Would it have been announced formally if people had to convene at Pro Cathedral?

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@11:27 pm
When I present my evidence to the constituency office of Norma Foley in Tralee about Glenstal Abbey School and the Cistercian College to be passed on to the officials in the Department of Education for investigation — I am sure they will be more than happy with my identity.
@11:44 pm
The conventional chapter at Glenstal Abbey voted NOT to readmit Gregory Collins. We are unsure as to the reasons that informed their decision. However, do bear in mind that Gregory Collins brought the reputation of the Holy See into real disrepute with the state of Israel because of his behaviour, so he was completely out of options. Do bear in mind Collins was told either resign or be dismissed from the clerical state — (a reality that will befall Richard Purcell in due course).
Thus, that may have led him to approaching the Anglican Diocese of Chichester. Of course, that also begets the question — who was his intercessor/promoter with the diocese? Also, why did Rev’d Collins choose to relocate to West Sussex rather than seek to minister in Northern Ireland. If I was being kind, I could say he was following the promptings of the Holy Spirit; but if I was being unkind, I could suggest that he was comfortable being an Anglican minister in one of the most gay-friendly cities in the world.
@11:47 pm
Can you send, please the name of the African monk you refer to in your posting via e-mail to either Pat Buckley or myself. Your confidentiality is absolutely assured. Alternatively, you can post it anonymously on the blog, where Pat Buckley can duly note records the name and then delete your posting. Any information that you provide will be examined and followed-up. Thank you.

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Pat, would you not consider going down to all these monasteries and blessing them from outside their gates?

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Bishop Pat, while you’re at it will you invite Bella to the blessings
with you or better still pay him a visit on Harrington Rd ?

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Would you not consider it though? A picture tells a thousand words and there could be photos of each blessing

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10:45 :Bishop Pat, would you not be concerned about overwhelm from all the black fumes?

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10.45: Start first with THE ORATORY, then I’ll drive you to each monastery.

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2:06 pm

Bella, are you telling me you’d refuse a blessing or invitation to monasteries in need of blessings? Consider it a pilgrimage.

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@8:22 am
You make a number of very interesting observations about Abbot Christopher Jamison. Yes, everything did appear to be on track for Abbot Madden to return to Ampleforth. I have never met Abbot Madden nor do I have any connection with him whatsoever. He is, by all accounts – a remarkably intelligent, kind, individual who had a promising medical career ahead of him that he gave-up to become a monk of Ampleforth.
It is interesting that you mention Worth Abbey. It is also interesting that you mentioned that Jamison was a one-term superior. I am told that his tenure at the vocations office was an utter disaster.
Now, let us discuss Fr. Andrew Paul Brenninkmeyer, OSB, a monk and priest of Worth Abbey. I am told that Fr. Brenninkmeyer is STILL listed in the Benedictine Yearbook 2020 as a monk and priest of Worth Abbey, but he is not resident at said location. Now that may not strike you as being unusual monks from the English Benedictine Congregation are often resident away from the monastery due to that missionary nature.
https://gtmediawatch.org/1961/04/01/gay-times-november-1995/
Let us contemplate the following words from the “Gay Times ” from November 1995:
Well, I’m afraid Father Andrew Brenninkmeyer does. Characterised in The Daily Mirror (September 16th) as “the dirty monk”, Father Brenninkmeyer’s taste for young men led him into all kinds of trouble at the Benedictine abbey at Worth in West Sussex. One of his victims told how Brenninkmeyer “stripped during confession and suggested that the young man take off his clothes as well.” There are also tales of seductions on the sofa, and candlelit dinners for two. “Younger priests easily fell under his spell,” says The Mirror. The good father has now been suspended and is believed to be in Switzerland. He has expressed “his deep remorse for any distress and suffering that may have resulted from his actions”.
Brenninkmeyer also interfered with a monk and priest of the Abbey, Jonathan Monckton, who subsequently left the monastery and the priesthood. The behaviour of Brenninkmeyer can be characterised as solicitation in the confessional, and that is a most serious charge; one that is not denied.
Thus, it seems amazing that Christopher Jamison while as the Abbot of Worth Abbey was content to let Brenninkmeyer (who comes from one of the wealthiest families in Europe) to roam free outside the Abbey with impunity and without any supervision. Yet, Jamison, with prosecutorial zeal goes after the Abbot of Ampleforth. Why did Jamison as the Abbot of Worth Abbey not refer Brenninkmeyer to the CDF, and request that he IMMEDIATELY be laicised as a monk and priest? In light of the very serious allegations that were made against Brenninkmeyer — who assisted/facilitated a priestly assignment for him in the United States? Did the then Abbot of Worth provide him with a character reference attesting that he was a monk and priest in good standing?
In order to avoid detection in the US, Brenninkmeyer used a slightly different spelling of his name. Thus, it is legitimate to ask Abbot Christopher is Brenninkmeyer ministering as a priest anywhere in Europe at the moment? If he is, does he have a letter attesting that he is a monk and priest in good standing with the current Abbot of Worth Abbey, Dom Luke Jolly? Or if such a letter was provided did it come from the office of the Abbot President?
I could write other questions, but I will conclude with the following observation that an accusation of hypocrisy can be fairly levelled at Dom Christopher Jamison, OSB, the current Abbot President of the English Benedictine Congregation.

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11.12: Aren’t you Hoop La – Kerry bogman – an encyclopedia of useless information? Your obsession with the sexual lives of others is a psychological illness. Get help.

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2:35pm
I certainly would not would accept a invitation to any of the monasteries mentioned on here and any blessings I would want would be from clerics in good standing thank you very much.

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4:08 pm
Bella, you’re running out of Catholic road. Even the Popes been mentioned not to mention most monasteries in Britain and Ireland. Where would you go? Harrington Rd, only?

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Yes, Andrew Brenninkmeyer belongs to the family that owns C&A, which no longer exists in the UK, but is still a big operation in Europe. They are Dutch, very Catholic, and had an English based group who looked after the operation in the UK when it was still running. Andrew comes from that branch of the family. He will not be short of a penny and the family money will flow to him and enable him to live very nicely. I’m a bit confused, however, because I thought that a Benedictine Brenninkmeyer also committed suicide after some exposure or other. Perhaps there were two OSB monks by the name Brenninkmeyer, Andres and another who took his own life ? Anybody know ?

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Meanwhile, on the Peninsula it’s the same old Carry On.
“Daaa’rling, daaa’rling, I simply didn’t tell lies to the reviewer… It’s all lies, lies, lies, I tell you. it’s all in that little head of yours.”
But I have evidence?
“Oh, well I may have done; I can’t remember. I don’t know.”

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11:59 :
The black steam when holy water lands might be black fumes if what we’ve
learned over the last number of weeks is regular carry on in such places.

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@12:29

Would you like to share your professional accreditation that enables you to make such a profound diagnosis on my psychological health? Are you a licensed psychologist/psychiatrist or just an armchair one? Did you undertake an introduction to psychology course in the seminary or heaven forbid as a novice in the monastery? Did you decide to make that posting having read the review of “Psychiatrist in the Chair – Anthony Clare” on the RTÉ news website, yesterday?

I am proud of the fact that I am “Kerry bogman”. Please do feel free to share your profound psychological insights about that statement.

Perhaps, my ability to ferret out information and expose institutional hypocrisy is making you and others uncomfortable? Is it making you and others PARANOID? Might you be worried about information that was shared with Pat Buckley yesterday? It was very INTERESTING.

Now, share your wisdom about the behaviour of Andrew Paul Brenninkmeyer and the former Abbot of Worth, Christopher Jamison. Tell us all about their psychological make-up.

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Now now Bp Pat do you not know the auld story in th church Out of sight out of mind. The poor auld Abbot has a smell. Next door dear were full hi

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2:45 PM
Good Afternoon-How-Hi Fly.
Begorra fly out of sight out of mind like the Church mice.
Butt sur didn’t Mary and holy Joe smell as well. Given the bullet be all and sundry.
Endin up in a stinky stable smellin of baa baas lambs and shepherds.
Didn’t they land the BABBY of all the Babbies ever from BabbyLand.
Somethin not right in the state of the Church hi.
Somethin stinky winky and tis not just baas or fishy tails or dead mices.
Mary and holy Joe had a winter of discontent knot a summer of love.
Anyways whether smelling sweet stinky winky or a combo of…
May The Force Be With You.+
Bye bye Fly Hi.

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@ 12:29
Yes. Methinks green horn saying everything ’bout himself simultaneously
finding gratification of aggressive libidinal impulses or urges while wearing
clerical collar. This frequently occurs when ordained too Jung leading to difficulties.

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1.12: Mr. Hourigan, in recent comments I believe you are more obsessed and paranoid about the sexual pecadillos of monks. In relation to 12.29’s observation: one doesn’t need to be an accredited psychologist or psychiatrist to determine the OCD nature of much of your narratives and personality. ( I have a degree in psychology). Sesrching for TRUTH comes with a moral and ethical responsibility to ensure we do not pummel people into the ground with shame and humiliation. Surely, the duty is to enable others to own their own personal foibles and wrongdoing and provide them with the resources and stratagies to make the right decisions. You fail abysmally in this context. The question may be asked of you: are you a qualified solicitor, civil or canonical, doctor or even a psychologist that justifies the definitive judgments you pronounce so frequently? Are you too not the “proverbial” armchair judge, juror and executioner of all the Monks who egregiously offend your rattled, spiritual bones? You do not have a monopoly on truth, justice or fairness. You deliberately choose to see life only through your (imperfect) lens, thus rendering much of your verbiage as bias, prejudice and dare I say, latent homophobia. I would not like your presence close to me with its readiness to steamroll all over anyone with moral or spiritual failings. I have, thankfully, in my ministry, enabled many “sinners” to seek new beginnings! You are welcome to this club, if you so choose.

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Anon at 3.24: You and Hourigan are in parallel universes. Mr. H. is paranoid in his repeated rhetoric. No amount of intelligent psychology will change his closed mind. Sometimes, psychologically, you just havevto accept that some people stay hooked yo particular agendas and see their life’s purpose in pursuing it, often in blindness to the profound consequences their judgments have on those who have already igniminiously fallen. I do not belueve in reversing frequently over ruined lives. Mr. H. should personally go to the Monks who have offended him and in a mature, responsible and civilised way, have honest discussions with these monks. Repeatedly tearing them to pieces on this blog is questionable. I just pray that all at the centre of these events will stop, think, reflect and act responsibly and rightly.

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3.24 the gap in your psychology course is that they didn’t teach you that large amounts of moneys gone missing, and abuse of authority, denote serious mental issues such as “reservations”.

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@3:24 I think you should ask for your money back because OCD actually involves obsessions and compulsions, i.e. you have to do something or something else will happen, usually something bad and involving irrational fear. None of that is present in Mr Hourigan’s account here, and I suggest you return to your textbooks.

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Whatever about the imperfection of the lens he’s using, I’m happy he’s being a thorn in the side of all those concerned. Hypocrites all.

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@ 3:24

‘obsessed and paranoid about the sexual peccadillos of monks.’

An example of pure unadulterated utter psychobabble, if ever…

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3:24 pm – I know of a woman who holds an academic degree in psychology; however, whether she is read, or not, in this area is something quite different altogether…
My dialectical reasoning, undoubtedly, tells me she is not: not because, “I say so” or “I believe.” This is illogical — and therefore irrational.
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My dialectical reasoning is, I am told, sometimes, “not too bad at all…”
I think because I have worked as an engineer on systems and scenarios on which people’s lives are rather dependent, that I have learned when and where to appropriately apply this kind of reasoning.
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I remember some years back being the field engineer for all the Cash Generator stores from Stoke-on-Trent, right up to Blackpool and Leeds. One time I got called out to a store where the last engineer on-site had done a “T/O : Take Over” from a very well-known company (I will not say which one, but they make the locks and build vaults in the banks).
This engineer had, supposedly, commissioned the intruder and hold-up system (calibrate it to send its signals via our company’s BT RedCare / comms. platform – and test the system, afterwards!).
Turns out, he did not test the panic bottons to ensure they summoned the Police and local council camera control room. His excuse was, “It was a C..b system and a top of the range Aritech panel, I didn’t think I would need to test the panic buttons.”
When I got called to the store, one of the women was sitting with the Police and was crying. She had been attacked and punched in the face.
I was instructed by the Police to inspect the system, then give a report.
I told the truth in my ACPO report, I even gave a recent ranscript of the panel’s event memory log, including the times and dates in its log.
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My boss went crazy and my job was on the line, certainly untill he found another multidisciplinary engineer.
However, 3 months later, my boss had received a letter from the customer’s loss prevention department informing him that they had already downloaded the panel’s memory onto a laptop before I had arrived on-site. It tallied with my ACPO report, and the focus of this letter seemed more on how the customer was impressed in my honesty and the fact that I had reassured them the system was working perfectly before I had left site. It even detailed that I had showed the girls, in store, where all the panic buttons were located and, had made them press them once or twice to ensure knew what to do in an emergency.
They decided to stay with our company and kept the incident on their file.
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From that time onwards, my boss never used “Subbys” sub-contractors to do take overs, again!
… Bringing people in to “get a job done” – most certainly to cover-up – is never a good idea. Not where safety or safeguarding is concerned…
You will NEVER get away with it! It will come back to bite you on the bum, sooner or later…
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Anyway, I kept my registration and was asked by the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) to advise on any future revisions / techologies and, to advise them in how to respond and reply to requirements and requests for changes to alarm standards made by UK insurance companies.
My boss put the letter in a frame and placed it at the front of the office, where the customers come in.
I was embarrassed at this.
Oh, and I got a rase! 😉 x

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2.56: Methinks you are psychologically confused. Have the calming pills been upped in milligrammes, Sigmund Freud or Carl Jung?

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4.46: Yeah…senorita…same auld tune…much like everyone else….Muchos gratias…

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5:04
No problemo. Do yourself self a favor….change the tune…buy a new instrument…Ciao Lolli.

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5.12 and 5.52: Look up the full psychological and psychiatric definition of OCD. You may find the definition covers a myriad of behavioural patterns, including that of harrassing others with on-going mental, spiritual and emotional harrassment, knowing that their target is very fearful, imprisoned and vulnerable. OCD is not just about obsession with hand washing or cleanliness…It’s about a deep rooted propensity to cause harm to oneself or to others by repeat behaviour.

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Nah.
The mere fact you say psychological or psychiatric shows you don’t understand diagnosis.
A psychiatrist would be more likely to diagnose those behaviours as a personality disorder.
You don’t understand this do you. 🤪

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It’s nearly impossible to get most psychiatrists to decide a diagnosis these days.

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That is so annoying Pat. In the team I work in the doctors’ letters always have a diagnosis and the patient has a copy.

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Yes. That said I think my team is a model of improving practice and I have seen some horrors in my time.

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The congregation had crisis talks some years ago among the younger (about 50) monastics to try to identify ways forward. They have a real difficulty because their distinctive form of monastic life adapted to the conditions of England when Catholicism was still illegal and then they chose schoolmastering as a work suitable to monasticism. Because their tradition is so unique attempts to take it towards the kind of life led by other Benedictines automatically hit a stumbling block.
There were predictions that monasteries without schools would just fade out but the only one which has is Fort Augustus which closed its school for a number of reasons but was already dying anyway.
Their upper class identification can’t help in this day and age and of course their reputation for atrocious management of abuse will haunt them for the foreseeable future. IICSA rightly was critical of their attitude.
My money would be on a reduced number of monasteries in the future but wouldn’t like to predict which will close, although I think they will keep Ealing afloat to the bitter end to make out everything is OK.

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Good point, though my own view is that all EBC monasteries have had their chips. Only Ampleforth still has the numbers, partly because, unlike Downside, it did nor splinter into dependent priories at say Worth and Ealing. All the schools which remain are effectively now under lay management with the monks regarded as potential molesters, so why anybody should pay the fees and and send their kids there is beyond me.

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8:52 pm
Striving for best practice is crucial.
However the psychiatric world is riddled with abusive horror stories.
Psychiatry is in my opinion simply a medico- ideology dressed up as science.

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The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, chaired by Professor Alexis Jay, published reports that were damning of both of these monasteries. In due course, it will be interesting to see what the Irish Department of Education make of certain matters that have been uncovered and reported to Pat Buckley in the past two days concerning Glenstal Abbey School, and my own concerns about the Cistercian College

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/news/inquiry-publishes-report-ampleforth-and-downside

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The Inquiry restricted itself to two EBC monasteries as sample cases. Had it audited all of them, who knows what would have come out, for example about the notorious Fort Augustus Abbey.

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I have just been reading some of the coverage associated with Fr. Robert MacKenzie, formerly of Fort Augustus Abbey. It is extraordinary that whether he should be deported back to Scotland from Canada had to be considered by the highest court in Saskatchewan.

https://archregina.sk.ca/content/bishops-letter-re-fr-robert-mackenzie

It is, of course, noteworthy, that the Archdiocese of Regina in Canada immediately suspended his faculties upon receipt of the accusations. One wonders has similar measures being taken by the Bishop of Waterford with respect to Richard Purcell?

However, not to get side-tracked, when you consider the level of recidivism within the EBC with the likes of Father Andrew Brenninkmeyer – how could Abbot Madden be treated fairly, impartially, and dispassionately? Of course, Abbot Madden was subjected to an independent police investigation and a canonical investigation that led to a complete exoneration.

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Further to 7:05am it is indeed poetic justice for the entire EBC that not only what is left of Downside might be relocated to say Belmont but also a former Abbot of Ampleforth – or he could, I suppose, move into Buckfast and produce their foul “wine” for the alkies and destitute of Glasgow. I remember a Downside monk ( a dear man RIP ) taking a look at the Abbey Church at Belmont and sniffily remarking to me, “Thank God, you are a citizen of no mean city.” How are the mighty fallen.

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What’s story with roman rota advocate on RP?
It looks like irish monasteries have to be dealt with first before going to rota advocate thus exhausting all possible legal avenues. Abbot General ignored it for now, hoping for the best that it will fade or die away as dust gathered on a shelf.
It seems to me that bc was a cover up merchant for irish bishops hierarchy. He seems to get nominated for his cover up skills re monk in Abbey UK who got exonerated at the end. Was there any other jobs or roles that bc was assigned to, in previous years that we don’t know or nor informed nor well up to speed re his previous roles handed out to him by various bishops or the Vatican itself.??
Why did Bishop of Meath nominate him? He knows what we don’t know re bc.

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@8:54 pm
“What’s story with roman rota advocate on RP?”
A conspicuous amount of work is being done behind the scenes.

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Robert Hourigan and Bishop Pat. You’ve made your point. Let this drop now please. As well as being really boring, the impact on the individuals concerned is now becoming sustained and persistent harassment. If any of them take their own lives you will have blood on your hands. I’m praying the Holy Rosary for you both that you may do your Christian duty and pray for them and stop all this. Enough is enough. Thanks

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While I am not in a position to speak for Pat Buckley; I have no intention of letting this drop. While you may find it boring; it is of real interest to lots of people who read Buckley’s Blog. And, Pat Buckley has confirmed that traffic to his blog has increased conspicuously since he has started covering the recidivism that has infected the monasteries.

I utterly reject your characterisation of “sustained and persistent harassment”. What has been highlighted persistently is the institutional hypocrisy of the men who have freely and voluntarily assumed the obligations of solemn monastic profession and ordination to the priesthood. Nobody is forcing them to remain in monastic life; nobody is forcing them to get up at 4 a.m. in the morning for the office of Vigils; nobody is forcing them to say mass every day; nobody is forcing them to create profiles in gay dating apps. They are making informed choices.

Furthermore, your oblique reference to the fact that some of these individuals might commit suicide is a subtle attempt to dissuade attempts to expose abominable behaviour. Nonetheless, suicide is a very serious matter; but, if people feel under that kind of pressure, they should seek professional help and/or if they feel their hypocrisy is going to be publicly exposed — then they can freely and quietly extricate themselves from the situation that they have created by resigning or seeking a leave of absence. Again, nobody is putting a gun to their head to remain in the monastery.

Those who lead lives of such duplicity are free to seek a voluntary dispensation of their vows from the Holy See to spend as much time in gay saunas as they choose — provided they have the requisite funds to pay the admission fee. In fact, I have far more respect for individuals who do the honourable thing and leave.

Those who wish to remain in some form of “ministry” might-be welcomed by the Anglican Diocese of Chichester and/or by other Anglican bishops in the Church of England. If they wish to do what they like with impunity — then the Episcopalian Church in the United States accommodates everybody without condemnation.

By your posting, are we to infer that you are happy with institutional hypocrisy? In any event, I respectfully disagree with your characterisation, however, I would encourage you to continue praying the Rosary for all sinners — including myself.

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9 42: Hooligan – the great harrasser. The great hater. The great inciter of a “pernicious, nasty, trample them into the ground” mobster style behaviour. I pray for the Monks you are abusing by your vindictive commentary. Shame on you.

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I have known you for a long Robert. You are a horrible nasty individual with some deep rooted tendencies of your own that you should deal with before outing the wrong doing of others. May God have mercy on you.

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9.42: Mr. Hourigan, you should reread this long comment you have written. It is beyond belief that you could give yourself such moral authority to act as judge of all whom you disapprove of. Do you not think for a moment that your recommendations are for your benefit only? It may be true that your words may prompt someone to rethink their lives. That would be a positive. The opposite is also true: your continuing narrative of threats of publicly printing information, even invalidated, and your personalizing of these events may spur someone to suicide. No one is telling you to desist from truth finding but this kind of focused vendetta may be very fatally destructive to named individuals by you.

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Isn’t it possible that both Robert and +Pat are praying for them while calling them out on their actions/inaction.
If I were you, I would be offering my prayers for Dom Benedict. He appears to have been forgotten about in this sad story.
I also can help feeling your post is , at best disingenuous and at worst malicious.

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“Isn’t it possible that both Robert and +Pat are praying for them while calling them out on their actions/inaction”.

Indeed. As this is the month of November — I have asked the priest to offer masses for the dead to help ameliorate this most unpleasant of situations.

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Fr Paul If you are a Priest you know the Catholic Church has many agencies the Clergy and Religious can use this provision also Many bishops and fellow Clergy and Religious are approachable.
So do NOT give us that old chestnut of taking their own life.
Robert and Pat is helping the Church eradicate the Clergy and Religious that the Lay Faithful Do NOT want enough is enough.
Those who cannot keep their Vows and lead a double life should resign now their number is up

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9.56: Please give us information on Hourigan. There is something not right about this bastard. Something of the night about his prolonged harrassment of monks. Something very distasteful…from his mouth and elsewhere.

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“eradicate the Clergy and Religious that the Lay Faithful Do NOT want”. Eradicate the gays and no one will be left.

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I have met Fr Cuthbert. As someone who as a teenager spent many an hour with him, very often alone (pottery was not popular in the way that carpentry or metalwork was), I agree with every word of this.
The law on sexual (or, for that matter, any) allegation is clear:
“If a legal rule requires a fact to be proved (a fact in issue), a judge or jury must decide whether or not it happened. There is no room for a finding that it might have happened. The law operates a binary system in which the only values are zero and one. The act either happened, or it did not. … If the party who bears the burden of proof fails to discharge it, the value of zero is returned and the fact is treated as not having happened. If he does discharge it, the value of one is returned and the fact is treated as having happened.”
What seems astonishing (and very unfair) about the treatment of Fr Cuthbert is that they seemed to think they might get around this by simply making not any finding at all.
It could be worse. According to one of the victims’ lawyers:
“Irrespective of the allegations against him personally, Fr Cuthbert was one of the senior leaders at Ampleforth during the period when it was mired in scandal and safeguarding failures. It would never have been right for him to return to Ampleforth.”
As Tom Paxton put it, “some are bad, some are good and some have done the best they could”. If we treat them all alike, not only have we abandoned justice, but we have removed all incentive for good or doing the best one can. It becomes a lottery.
I do not understand why any man enters the teaching profession these days. I say that with immense regret when the two teachers who inspired me and taught me how to think were – as it happens – men.
As another folk singer said, “you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone”. Nobody will ever know the inspirational teacher who never taught them because they became accountants or doctors instead.

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