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MAYNOOTH TRIES TO REINVENT ITSELF :-(

MAYNOITH SEMINARY is trying to to invent itself after year’s of being exposed as a rampant gay seminary.

They are selling their main buildings for accommodation for the university lay students.

And they are planning a 21 St century minj seminary at the edge of the campus.

But their problem is their toxic reputation as a gay seminary – a place of orgiastic gay sex between seminarians and seminarians and priests.

President Ledwith spent his time seducing first year seninarians.

He was sent packing to the USA with a £ 300,000 golden handshake by the Irish bishops.

And then we had the 2016 Summer of Love when all kinds of gay revelations came flooding out.

Diarmuid Martin condemned the “strange goings in” and pulled out all his seminarians.

The numbers of entrants have dropped.

Maynooth is finished.

Better to give it a good funeral and start all over again.

106 replies on “MAYNOOTH TRIES TO REINVENT ITSELF :-(”

That article is pure hagiography, dripping with the Ampleforth arrogance which is the reason the school should definitely be closed. A remarkable own goal.

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Yes, there is definitely that Ampleforth arrogance and entitlement here. it comes from the monks. They are not humble beings. They come mostly from the upper middle recusant Catholic classes and the establishment, and they engender that culture in their students. Problems ? What problems, they would think. How dare you be so impertinent to tell us that we have problems, they would think. Well, looks like their bluff has been called. About time.

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What would have to happen in Ampleforth before old boys would stop writing articles saying the it’s great, apart from the small matter of endemic abuse?
A state school with such a record would have been closed years ago or shunned by parents of potential pupils.

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The key line in this article is:…. “in closing the school the Department for Education is making a mistake, and currently seems unable to distinguish the individual criminals from the good and laudable men they hid among.” The problem with that is the fact that the laudable men that the abusers hid among were aided and abetted, at least implicitly if not explicitly, by these laudable men. They knew, for the most part, what was going on, and took action moving these abusers around their various other ministries and parishes so that they were not physically living at the monastery. But, even then, many of these abusers carried on abusing in their new posts. So, the Abbot and the monks of Ampleforth often facilitated pastures new for abusers. And they knew all about it. And they would move them on again and again and again. So, I do find Henry Williams rather fawning article about Ampleforth somewhat incredible to stomach.

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This guy writing this Spectator article is trying to reinvent the past. Almost as if it didn’t happen. Sorry……but he’s looking at things through rose tinted spectacles….

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I remember visiting Ampleforth about a decade ago and being introduced to one of the monks who was middle aged, very camp, evidently had a morning facial treatment, and was well coiffed and fragranced, even if habited. I did wonder about him being a friend of Dorothy. Then a few months later I was passing through King’s Cross station – which would of course be the train station out of London for trains to Yorkshire – and he was there taking on his phone and dressed like he was some sort of superannuated rent boy. Mutton dressed as lamb, sort of stuff. I guess his practice would be to hop on the train down to London for some R and R, dressed in his latest glad rags, and then hot foot it back afterwards to Yorkshire to step back in to the habit. “A monk out of his monastery is like a fish out of water.” Wasn’t that St Benedict ? I think Ampleforth has always been a rather louche establishment.

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Because a degree in music gives him insight into the human condition, and is a platform for determining the right candidates……ah not wait, that’s a load of s*ite. No one else wanted to be on the team 😂

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Maybe if they dressed themselves they’d attract someone! Either dress in proper clerical dress or, if you insist on being ‘trendy’ at the very least dress in clothes of the past decade and not 1980

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Why can’t you just be happy for them, Pat?
They’re managing to succeed despite their past problems. Good for them!

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Lovely Christmas card order arrived from Silverstream today. It’s good to support the Priory and the cards are beautiful.

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about time some of the property was allocated to lay students. its unreal trying to find accommodation in Maynooth. I know some of the 2020/2021 entrants for seminary formation in Maynooth/Vallodolid, and it would appear their candidates are OUTSTANDING.

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Attracting lay students (who don’t have the grades to get into proper universities btw) is not why Maynooth was built or exists.

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Maynooth University is a great institution and it is good to see the old seminary buldings having a new lease of life as housing for its students.

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Pat Mullaney is planning an absolute showstopper of a speech at this year’s online Yuletide concert, to follow last year’s “Jesus was a racist” success.
She’s been rehearsing in front of a few trusted and highly favoured kittens. The opening line – “Jesus was Pro Choice”. That’ll grab their attention says Mullaney Pat. Happy Holidays!

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”Roman Catholic priests should be allowed to get married and live a normal live’ – hats off to that woman”

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No such thing as a “Roman Catholic”, which is a term invented by Victorian Protestants and unknown outside the Anglosphere.

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It is silly how long it takes to become a priest. It took me seven years in total. Such length of time can make a guy incapable of getting a real job in case he wants to leave. But thankfully I have been happy. I would make it a 3 year course. Diaconate at the end then priest 6 months later.

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7 year holiday. A couple of degrees, placements abroad, accommodation, food, auld wans fussing over ya. It’s a great life

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12:40pm

Not really Betty when lots of them have to put up with false allegations and insults. Thank God for all the good holy priests we have who of course we never hear about.

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4.35
You don’t hear either of or about them because they do not exist, except in the farthest reaches of personal fantasy.
It is impossible to become holy on having pledged obedience to an institution, the Romanist Church, which is self-evidently ‘corrupt, and riddled with corruption’.
For heaven’s sake, why do some find this elementary truth so intellectually elusive?!

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12.40: Betty dear, if by auld ones you mean “decent, good, Christian women” then I am glad of their presence, but you, being the catty bitch you seem to be, I would send packing back to your kitchen sink..I have no time for cynics like you. Your type does an incredible amount of damage in parishes with small talk, jealousy, gossip and begrudgery. You represent the kind of trouble maker we avoid at all costs. Stay washing the delph.

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7:29, its your kind father we are trying to get rid of in parishes. What was it Pope Francis said, ‘service not servitude’. You’ll have me back in the kitchen? how about you get a job?

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There is something depressingly seventies about the photo of the formation team at Maynooth – dreary middle age men in jumpers, and the inevitable nun in charge of vocational counselling, whatever that is. The same types have been running seminaries for the last fifty years, which, in part at least, is why they have all been closing. I find it impossible to get excited about Fanny’s vision of the future. Let’s get real: there isn’t one.

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You want to come over to Allen Hall or Oscott or one of those English places. Nobody on staff will be wearing a jumper. It will be crisp black suits or soutanes. And, as for the students ….well, whatever Barbiconi or Gammarelli are selling this season. It’s all about class and taste, dears !

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@11.22am What a load of horse manure! It’s clear that you haven’t been in any Seminary in England lately or for a long time. Stick to looking out of your net curtains instead you old gas bag maid at the market

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Spot the rejected bitchy ex Sems and failed priests on the blog today like most days on here. They stick out like sore thumbs. You can’t help but detect their resentment, nastiness and bitchy queenie venom in their posts. All because they were flung out the door and deemed unsuitable and they are unable to move on with their sad little lives. You gotta feel sorry for these rejects who can only cope by taking pot shots at those within ministry. Very sad and pitiful.

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Well you can’t accuse Robert Hourigan of any of that. He was never a seminarian and every ounce of blood cascading through his blood vessels is 100 % hetero.

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11:26 – I assure you I did not get thrown out of seminary and am still very much in ministry. I just don’t like what I see in our seminaries and our young priests. Your comments and language suggest that you, perhaps, have your own difficulties and issues, since you react with such venom to people who take a pot shot at your clerical friends and point out some of the fripperies and idiocies that exist amongst them. Turn the other cheek and absorb it. Offer it up. But, most of all, best for you just to shut up. Please.

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@12:05 I like the phrase the youngsters use – ‘suck it up’. Of course it would be unfortunate in these circumstances.

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11.26: Indeed the snowflake ex sems and clerics are out in force…the worst being MC .. the most dysfunctional of the ex sems…the one over whom a party was celebrated when he was sent packing….he is still an idiot and a vicious bitch.

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What an elderly nun would know about the vocation or life of a priest is beyond me. Imagine if you tried to appoint a priest as vocational growth counsellor in a convent in the extremely unlikely event of their having any novices?

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4:58pm
Oh Maggie you’re so predictable and boring and so full of bitterness, I don’t like to encourage you but perhaps a drop of the gargle will make you sweeter, just sayin’ like.

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If somebody like Fr. Jones (King Puck), can successfully complete the seminary course and be declared “suitable” for ordination to the priesthood for the Diocese of Kerry; then Maynooth is going nowhere — fast. However, I have subsequently learned that there were “concerns” about Jones prior to his ordination to the diaconate.

Pat Buckley, who has the unenviable record of being accurate (Pat, will be accused of having a bromance) – wrote some time ago that the second individual involved in the sex act on the altar at St. Bartholomew’s Church, Kildorrery is a Maynooth-based seminarian.

In various conversations, I have had with people about Richard Purcell at Mount Melleray Abbey, I have learned that this seminarian is still in Maynooth, studying for a Diocese in Northern Ireland. If this is true — the mind boggles; but one has to legitimately wonder is the leadership of Maynooth morally compromised? However, the photographs of the persons involved can be forensically analysed, to establish if the individual concerned is the seminarian in Maynooth, and, I am sure Fr. Jones in Kerry would also welcome the opportunity to vindicate what is attested to within his affidavit.

Again, my thanks to everybody who has provided information, it will be treated with the utmost sensitivity and absolute CONFIDENTIALITY.

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At Robert at 11:19am – There has to be compromise at the very highest levels of the Church. There is no other reasonable explanation for what is going on and what is being permitted. It’s absolutely shocking. The identity of the Kildorrery altar scandal seminarian is an open secret. Does anyone know if this individual received diaconate? He should have been ordained a deacon by now – but there’s no mention of it anywhere. These things are usually trumpeted. Some of his peers are now deacons and priests – not that there is very many of them. The whole business beggars belief.

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The whole business beggars belief? Not at all. What could you reasonably expect from Romanist priesthood; it is anti-Christ.
I blame principally the fools who continue to finance this evil institution.

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11.38, compromise? And a word that got thrown in recently, extortion? Is this anything to do with the strange sales in Dublin and Chelsea?

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11:46pm
If you would stop financing the gargle shop which I blame principally for your bitter attitude. You might have a better appreciation of The Sacred Priesthood instead of your constant insults which are so tedious and tiresome.

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6.20
Not as tedious and tiresome as your routinely describing as ‘sacred’ a priesthood Jesus self-evidently never intended.
Do you ever wonder, even just a little, why the Roman Catholic priesthood has exhibited the moral depravity and ugliness with which we all are now depressingly familiar, have come to expect (and, indeed, to which many, through such familiarity, have grown indifferent)? It is because this evil institution is entirely the will of men, not of God. It has neither his blessing, nor his protection: it is, without fear of overstatement, a conduit for preternatural evil. What other society would ordain, and protect, such men as Sean Jones, Richard Purcell, Brendan Smyth, Sean Brady, MJ Byrne, etc ? And what other institution would elect as its head an ex-Nazi and a moral coward?

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“Diarmuid Martin condemned the “strange goings on” and pulled out all his seminarians.”
… Maybe the seminarians should have pulled themselves out of each other 😂 🤣

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@ 11.38 a.m.
Yes, I know the identity of that individual is an open secret. That seminarian was due to be ordained a deacon earlier this year for a diocese in Northern Ireland, but I understand it was delayed due to the pandemic. In conversations that I have had about Richard Purcell, his name keeps emerging with alarming regularity. Of course, there is also the possibility that he was ordained a deacon, secretly. But, I think that is most unlikely, however, nothing surprises me anymore.
Maynooth is in an absolutely shocking state, but, it does not come as a surprise when you consider its leadership over the past thirty-years. I am aware of another whistle-blower who was forced out of Maynooth, when he caught two individuals in bed together, and naïvely reported it to the authorities. I am also aware of another seminarian for a Leinster-based diocese, who had to leave because of the repeated sexualised touching of his bottom by seminarians, who were attempting to “turn him”. Again, all this was tolerated with impunity by the leadership of the seminary.
Does anybody know if the infamous altar in the diocese of Cloyne was reconsecrated?

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A point of information. The first priest executed in the USA was said to have had relations with his mistress on the altar of one of his parishes. Remember that altar probably had a tabernacle and a gradine surmounted by the big six along with the two little candlesticks!
I should think lots of ‘ parvae declinationes ‘ were required for that exercise. On second thought should that be pravae?
Again, we are not as bad as we like to think.

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12.04: Hourugan….you seem to know a great deal about the sexual antics of others all over the country!!! Are you a night called to “service providers” ariund the country? Your narrative has the threads of “duirt bean….. “. .hearsay….You are a pitiable individual to be so obsessed with the sexual antics of others…You obviously are a joyless and sexless specimen…but get orgasms from fantasising…

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Yes, there is a fatigue about the clergy and its misdoing, whether it is about coverup, or mismanagement, or actual abuse. Look at Rawhide Purcell. Nobody is going to do anything about it because really nobody is that interested anymore. Sorry, but that is the way it is these days…. Only if the matter is criminal will the press, people and police take action. Anything outside of that and clergy and people like Purcell can do what they want and get away with it. Purcell will still be abbot in 5 years time, Nichols will still be in Westminster for many more months and a cardinal until he dies.

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Pat @11.33am You only have his word for that especially as you don’t really know Hourigan all that well. I didn’t think you could be so naive and gullible making that statement about this person.

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Pat, I can’t stop eating. I just eat burgers and chips and hot dogs. My gut is hanging over my belt and my arse is as big as a small house.

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Magna Troll warning ⚠️

Pat please publish this. I know you are very sensitive when it comes to “you know who”

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Funny isn’t it how the priests who comment here are all for their peers being left alone, Pat looking to himself and the imperfect getting second chances. When Pat actually does this to Magna Carta (who has publicly apologised and is behaving much better) they are apoplectic.
This wouldn’t have anything to do with Magna Carta having them sussed would it.

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11.33: Hourigan…..a 100% heterosexual….??How do you know? ….That Mr. Affidavit Horse Crap is back again…It’s a waste of space with all its threats, innuendo, allegations…..definitive judgments……and Pat’s bromamtic overtures to “it” is mind boggling. Perhaps peas in a pod….but both are stinking. Hourigan, I hope you may have heard the Responsorial Psalm refrain for today’s Eucharist (though not seemingly important to you!!): “The Lord is kind and full of compassion: slow to anger, abounding in love”. Perhaps you might absorb these words. Truly.

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@12:22 pm
Yes, it is true that Pat Buckley does not know yours truly really well. However, it is the case that we have spoken FREQUENTLY over the past weeks about matters pertaining to Mount Melleray Abbey in light of the information that has been provided. Whilst, these matters have not appeared on the blog, a lot of background work has been undertaken; it is very much a work in progress. Some, but not all of these conversations have taken place in the presence of my better half so Pat Buckley writes from a position of insight. Of course, I have an intrinsic dislike of Buckley because he is from Offaly. And, we in Kerry have never forgiven the county for denying the Kerry Football Team the opportunity achieving winning the All-Ireland championship in 1983. But, for the greater good of Mount Melleray Abbey, I have put those differences to one side.

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1.42: Now, Hourigan, you are speaking bog shite! Stay in the bogs of Kerry…are the bogs a work in progress like all your other tasks? All mouth. All crap. Get a life.

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12.05pm I seem to have upset you, you delicate flower! Did I touch a nerve? You say you are in ministry yet order me to “shut up”, not much Christian example on your part. Don’t worry your wee bap as I have no current issues or difficulties to report. If you are in ministry then my name is tiddles the cat. So many fakes and goons on this blog pretending to be who they are not. It’s more like you want to be in ministry but can’t.

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@2:05pm I think a large part of this blog’s purpose is to allow the clergy free reign to demonstrate their genuine behaviour and attitudes.
Each and every one of those comments is an own goal. The public have Bishop Buckley to thank for exposing the filthy underbelly of clergy behaviour; this means that in 2020 nobody has an excuse for going into the church with closed eyes and we know that those who stay are just as filthy, as if we didn’t know it anyway.

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Yes, those who remain ARE just as filthy, and some of them regularly post on this blog. And their moral character, like the Romanist priests they serve, is only to transparent.
Knowing the vile nature of Romanism, and too many of her pimp-priests, these remainers finance a strumpet, and perpetuate her institutionally destructive behaviour.
I deliberately used the word ‘pimp’ to help denote Romanist priests, because these men have each forsworn Christ for an institution that reeks of moral corruption, and which has been proven, time and again, to be ‘corrupt, and riddled with corruption’. In doing so, they are complicit in that behaviour and, therefore, naturally strive to have others a part of it.
Were I to come across just one of these pimps as he self-combusted in his own indolent, parasitical, corporeal lard, it would truly be a Gethsemane moment for me (a time of agonised indecision) even to consider whether or not to be charitable…and empty my bladder over him.

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4.00: Grow up, Mr. Nasty, pretending to be all moral and right. You are as far from. God as you are from Mars or even further… You are tiresome…

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Mini-seminary? Silverstream is a microcosm of Maynooth, but it seems to have developed the same old problems associated with a group of Mo’s trying to suppress their deep-seated Mo’ness. I was going to say, homosexuals and homosexuality, but that sort terminology is outdated and disrespectful nowadays, Bp Pat, and rightly so.

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3:48, except that Bp. Pat’s description of Maynooth, “ a place of orgiastic gay sex“, does not correspond at all to the actual claims about Silverstream, which focused on the prior’s corruption (sexual and financial) alone, and the whistleblower’s subsequent affirmation that the other monks of Silverstream are not sexually corrupt (other claims of the new prior, Elijah’s, porn problem notwithstanding).

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They’ll still be gagging for it, Bp Pat, a new mini-seminary or mini-priory won’t change human nature.

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What is wrong with homosexual and homosexuality? What piffle. I am very proud to be a bum bandit, a puff, a Nancy.

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Purpose of this blog is to hold irish rcc into account re exposures if any cos not even the media whatsoever or the biased Catholic media such as Irish Catholic paper. Nearly everything good or bad or scandalous ones in rcc are swept under the carpet over the years.

This blog enables ourselves to see the ‘other side’ of rcc such as bad apples. So it gives us more perspective of the underlying undercurrent that’s persistent and perhaps relevant.

Kildorrey altar incident which was quite disturbing. I thought that it would never happen in Ireland but it did. It demonstrated that some bishops out there don’t believe in jesus christ by refusing to do the reconscreate the altar. It’s their lack of belief that led to their decision not to do it.

In America, in some dioceses where it did happen then some bishops did proceed to reconscreate the altar as soon as they can when time permits them to get this done.

But I don’t see it happening in the diocese of Cloyne as regards to Kildorrey altar to date unless someone more knowledgeable out there on this blog might correct me there on this point.

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4:56, there are ‘bad apples’ in every home and organisation throughout the world. Should we establish a blog for them too?

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Major story broke in all Irish media today about Irish bishops saying it’s morally ok to take Covid vaccine even if the cells were tested on aborted fetuses. The Church changes again and by the way the earth is round. Story broke few hours ago.

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@5.19pm Please get your facts correct and don’t wet your undercrackers over it. This story circulated in the Press last week so please keep up. The Pfizer vaccine by the way does not contain any human cells so go and do some proper research on it

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It says it all about that benighted place that the Kildorerry sem is sailing on to ordination as a deacon and then as a priest. What must you do nowadays not to be ordained?
I reckon the nun’s function is to ensure that orthodox sems are kicked out. The only good thing is that nuns like that are in or very near their dotage and they haven’t replaced themselves so that 70s throwback is on the way out.

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@5.14pm I am here to have a good chuckle at the likes of you – darling!! You never fail to cause much laughter especially by such a typical queer response.

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Pat, can you explain why you print the offensive, vulgar and venomous comnent at 5.51? I thought you promised that you’d not allow such hate inciting comments…Where are your morals in allowing this very distasteful prose?

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Evenin All Chilly one out. Not just Maynooth that needs reinventing but Christian practice as a whole. The Medical model of sociology is still being used. OO it shows us up-Deny . Its ever so noisy -shut it up. Looks unsightly-cover it up. Its impossible to have good seminarians without a healthy seed bed. Look at society Find the healthy plants and lead them to a place of stability worship and growth. The Carnival is Over and the Times They Are a Changing. Tell us another wan Jonah

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He has been ordered not to have any contact with you from on high. He was an ejit for doing so in the first place and now realises that.

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I don’t remember that room that the formators are in. Is it the rector’s office? The president’s office is in Stotye House and that room is clearly in the Pugin buildings.

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