In the whole John Paul Lyttle affair John Paul himself is not 100 % responsible.
While JP obviously had an overriding desire to be ordained, he was under the authority of others whose responsibility was to decide if he was suited to ordination.
John Paul was in three seminaries at least – The Wing in Belfast, Oscott and Spain. He also spent time with the Franciscans in Donegal where he was introduced to Boyce.
And did I hear that the Franciscans sent him on a placement to Africa?
I know his attempted sexual seduction by Donaghy in Belfast unnerved him. But did he leave The Wing after that or was he asked to leave?
Some time after leaving the wing he approached Bishop Crispin Hollis of Portsmouth who sent JP to infamous Oscott
Eventually there were problems in Oscott and eventually Hollis went to Oscott to interview JP.
Hollis indicated that he would try and retain him.
But, Hollis, after discussing the matter with his Diocesan Consultors dismissed JP as a seminarian.
Various interesting stories are circulating about JP’s time in Oscott.
JP then seems to have taken refuge with the Franciscans in Donegal.
There he met Boyce of Raphoe.
Then the Fras sent to have sent on an African excursion / mission.
Then he reappears is Isleworth, London, residing with a Portsmouth priest Father Ray Lyons.
Next, in the company of some youngsters he brought back from a gay bar he fell out of Lyons’ window and did serious brain damage.
There was a police investigation but no charges were brought.
Next JP appears on the Portsmouth diocesan website, wearing a clerical collar ( though not a cleric) with a diocesan title making him “diocesan representative to the marginalised”, whatever that meant.
Next the new bishop ordains him suddenly on a weekday evening.
Bishop Hollis did not attend.
Later he becomes a curate and hospital chaplain at Reading.
He gave a paper in the hospital on ethics.
Then he invites the young policeman to dinner, admires the cop’s trackie bottoms, shares dinner and three bottles of wine with him and asks him to stay the night – telling him the PP was away for the night.
The young cop makes good a swift escape. But not only after JP tells him” I’m always horney, I watch porn and wank”.
The young cop is stunned and gets no satisfaction from the local clergy, the bishop and the diocese.
So he speaks to me for advice and support.
He has never had an apology from JP, the diocese it the bishop.
Meanwhile the bishop tried hiding JP in another parish where he was discovered.
Next we are told he is going important research work for the diocese.
And now he is missing in action.
Some say he is back with Father Ray Lyons.
Others say he is on the way out of the priesthood.
ALLEGED HACKING OF MY PHONE, EMAIL REPORTED LAST NIGHT TO THE LONDON METROPOLITIAN POLICE.
I will be advised and directed by them.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
100 replies on “HOW DID JOHN PAUL LYTTLE GET HIMSELF ORDAINED?”
What do you mean Pat? Have you changed your password?
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This whole thing can be explained very simply – bishop Philip Egan thinks he has a direct line to god, and so whatever comes into His Grace’s mind is what god wants. Thus how PJ got himself ordinated into the Roman church.
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More likely Egan had the hots for Lyttle.
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You’ve missed out various stages of JP’s vocational journey.
Why have you spoken to the Met? Was that where the crime was committed?
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Fill in the JP gaps.
The alleged crime took place in the UK. The carrier / publisher is based in London.
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Are you making a connection between JPL and the hacking ? Is JPL that clever ?
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Surely you have all the gaps? It’s public knowledge.
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I’m not sure???
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Well if you don’t know, then you’re not as informed as you think.
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He certainly has some story, Bp Pat, but I think allowances should be made for the trauma of a freak accident like that. Under normal circumstances, one would have thought a priory like Silverstream, or a monastery such as Mt Melleray would attract someone like JPL, although he may fail Kitty’s age limit now. I think the Ordinariate of Walsingham may be more suited for this wayward queen of hearts.
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Freak accident ? He was high and drinking and in the company of people he had met at a gay bar. And sitting on a window ledge. I think there are a number of factors there that undermine the freak accident theory. Careless, yes. But freak ?
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The “gay bar” claim is without proof. Ne mention of it being a gay bar in any of the lress reports and this is the first time the blog has claimed it.
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I imagine Kitty would instruct Br Elijah to waive Silverstream’s age limit rule to allow JPL to become a monk. He’d fit in nicely with the other queerdo’s.
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You are so wrong about the Ordinariate. Would not recommend saying that to Father Ed Tomlinson a married father of 3 and a rugby player.
There are lawyers and all sorts as part time priests married as well.
Garngad Lad
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He got ordained because they are desperately short of numbers, standards for ordination are low. The entire cast of “The Maynooth Summer of Love 2016” would have been ordained if it was not for your intervention Pat.
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It is sad that Maynooth became what it is.
I agree with you about low standards. The brightest men would no go near priesthood now.
There is no academic bottom line anymore. In my day you would not be accepted without a Leaving Cert or A Levels.
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Our day is gone Pat I can’t decide if that is a good or bad thing. I have this nagging feeling that I have wasted my life.
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You left out one other important condition and the one that is central to the whole argument and it is a spiritual condition said to be given by God to two artificially created categories of beings. Having a leaving Cert and an A Level merely suggests that one is educated in a way that is universally recognised: one might know ones Periodic Table and how to parse a sentence (a failure which ioften commented in a sneering way by your correspondents). But the two categories that would keep one out of spiritual world of privilege is being an ‘illegitimate’ male, or not having the right ‘dangly bits’ attached to ones biological body that Aristotle would have recognised. And that kept over half of the Irish population out of the charmed circle, who were able to set their own standards of their lives with their bulls and pastoral letters. The sacred oils of the Maynooth boys put them on a different plain to what mr de Valera called ‘the plain people of Ireland’, and it was on their say-so that the majority of the people were excluded. But the sanctified were literally talking to themselves, setting laws that excluded others, inventing afterlands, hells and heavens and Limbos and Purgatories, and pretending that they could dictate biology. But it was that latter pretence that was to undo the all the afterlands and once they had seen ‘Gay Paree’, how were they to be kept down on the Kavanagh’s Irish celibate farms. It’s impossible. Baptism and confession are sacraments that cannot wash away the pagan biological roots of our lives, when one has tasted the new bath houses of California and modern Dublin, as Freud and Foucault discovered. Before the Maynooth graduates tried to find relief with children behind the high walls of so called Catholic ‘ orphanages’, with nuns acting as pimps and creating ‘illegitimates’. These ‘brides of Christ’ made orphans by tearing infants from their mother’s arms, and then burying them in unmarked graves and septic tanks. But once homosexuality had been decriminalised in the secular world, then the flood gates opened: desire became ungovernable. Leaving certs and A levels are worthless criteria, for the problem is on the spiritual level. As you say ‘the brightest would not go near the priesthood now’. And the brightest turned to literature for spiritual consolation.
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9:59
Words are parsed. Sentences analysed.
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9:59 The 1970s churches provided more support to women in need than secular society did.
http://www.e-pages.dk/irishtimes/2306/article/1274684/14/2/render/?token=1c30ac6a9e4049997747518fb1f665d3&vl_app_id=ie.irishtimes.reader&vl_app_version=3.0.0&vl_platform=android
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1.26
Actually, no. They aren’t
Sentences are parsed.
Parsing concerns recognising the syntactical relation of words in a sentence to other words therein.
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1.32
Depends on what THEY meant by ‘support’, doesn’t it?
I feel confident that most people would not define the word in terms of confining single mothers in so-called ‘Mother and Baby Homes’, and then placing under duress to give up their children for adoption.
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4:24
Your track record here, Gerry from the north, is such that the three words I, feel, and confident, when they refer to you must be the most miserable concatenation of syllables in English and will alert the reader to equate the view expressed there with the epitome of falseness and mendacity.
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6.46
Paddy from the Republic, begorrah!
You’re a sore loser, Paddy. Like that guy in The States with dodgy hair.
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And secular bodies reportedly weren’t (according to the Empire caste system) allowed to so I understand.
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4:21
Emotive reaction not logic is your stock in trade.
A sentence, when its clauses are separated one from the other is analysed.
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JPL is trouble and has been trouble for a long time. It should have been noted from early doors that he was trouble. Instead of being allowed to move through variation iterations of religious life / seminary /ministry, it should have been noted early on that he was not suited to ministry / priesthood. Part of the problem is that formation staff are generally not very competent or well trained. Another part of the problem is that they come under the personal spell of someone who is charismatic, good looking, characterful and has that frisson of sexual / erotic attraction. JPL had all of these. The question is, what happens to him now. I doubt if there are any very serious legal issues regarding JPL – the only stuff I have heard is his predilection for young adult men and drink, and I don’t sense he has done anything that would get in to the courts. Granted, his behaviour indicates that he is not sufficiently master of his attractions / inclinations, to a degree that he should not to be trusted with ministry. So, where to now ? He should be encouraged to do what millions of others of us do, which is to go out and get a job and start on a new way of life. Lodging him, feeding him, looking after him for an extended period – as seems to be happening – is a disservice to him and to us in the long term. It just delays the inevitable. I would say to any bishop / superior who thinks that he could be resurrected for ministry – don’t ! This man has a history of behaviour that stands in contrast to the standards of ministry, and he should be gently but firmly moved on. If you do take him back, it is only a matter of time until other unfortunate incidents occur, which are likely to escalate until he really gets himself – and you – in to serious trouble ! Cut him loose, for his sake and for our sakes. Please !
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A good balanced summary.
People probably used him along the way too.
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The problem with moving errant clergy on is that there is still this notion of the ontological change / a priest forever mindset. it’s a medieval fiction, that clergy and bishops just don’t seem to be able to get over. I suspect the laity are moving away from it, such is their incomprehension at the theory and the practice of priesthood. If a solicitor, or a doctor, or a social worker, or a teacher – or any other profession that clergy like to compare themselves to (although in truth those professionals are far more educated, trained and equipped than any instant wisdom clergy !) – if any of these break their contract or behave unprofessionally they are struck off after due process. In order to get struck off as a priest you seem to have to reach a threshold that involves going to prison for decades for vile crimes of child abuse. Anything less, it appears, and you stay in the club ! Another example of the clerical culture thinking it is so special and exceptional.
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@9:04am It’s still Christmastide, go and watch “It’s A Wonderful Life” with James Stewart. No life is a waste. x
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Cut Him Loose I am sure every Bishops in Ireland and the UK could do what you suggest and how simple that would be but sadly the Church cannot do it your way.
Dioceses have had to buy flats and furnish them for them that become c/o or sabbatical and it is not easy then there is the Canon lawyers backing them so it is wrong if we do and wrong if we don’t.
Some cases have been going on SEVEN years and this Father Lyttle one maybe around a year since Bishop Egan commenced it.
They just do not walk away if only and some are in relationships and residing with “friends” and please be assured NO Bishop wants to be in this situation.
And it is worse now if a Bishop does not take action the laity writes to the Holy see.
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This is what I meant (but didn’t say properly). Even priests coming back into ministry have usually been delisted meantime. If it was decided to help him to get out of priestly state, why be so ashamed of the process as to try and pretend it doesn’t take due time?
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10:43am
Only if you’re Jim S!
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Such overwrought purple prose by John Toland.
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Anon 1.32pm. Read Stephanie Walsh’s article, not the Irish Times headline (which incidentally does not download – I googled it) She worked for the bishop of Limerick and this was her claim that the Church’s ‘good work in aiding single mothers (is) now largely forgotten’. Then in her article she tells us about some of these ‘good works’, how she once housed an ‘unmarried mother’ in her home, and how she, the girl’s parents and the social worker, came to the conclusion that ‘it seemed that adoption was the best option for the baby and the mother (that is they created an Irish ’orphan’). She tells us that this was the best course as ‘the major factor was social pressure’ . . It was seen as socially degenerate to have sex before marriage’ , there was no contraceptives available in Ireland, and ‘that premarital intercourse was dangerous, often ending in pregnancy’. (I’m sure she was right in that fact) and that ‘The woman was seen as culpable’. She tells us, and that it was only in 1973 that there was any financial support for a woman to keep her baby. And she states that ‘Church teaching, with its almost exclusive emphasis on sexual morality was not helpful to such women’. And that a Father O’Connor set up a centre to help for some 20 women out of a population of thousands. Do you think that these ‘good works’ justify the IT headline?
So who was in charge of such a climate of fear, lies and abuse and vast compensation? Would her employer, the Bishop of Limerick, have anything to do with it? If you want a list of non-anecdotal studies by international criminologists, sociologists and historians, I can tell you what their conclusion was, but i suspect you already know yourself only you dont want to admit it.
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I do not accept what John Paul Little has done no one will but really Pat Buckley what do you want to do push him over the edge likely not the first or last person you have done that to.
Sadly again you are not getting the facts and the Bishop and the safeguarding team would meet the victim however this is a mature policeman.
Father Lyttle has spiritual and mental health problems and these issues are being addressed.
Bishop Pat you are an expert in Church Law you have got one of our assets so you know it takes a Bishop a long time to go through the tribunal and maybe even to Rome
It would be simple if Father John Paul Lyttle resigned but he is not going to do that and the Council of Priests assist him so it ends up in a Canonical state.
It would be better if you all offered up a decade of the Rosary for all concerned in this sad state of affairs.
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Nobody is suggesting that JPL be “pushed over the edge”. There is an ongoing duty of care for him. However, the harsh reality of life has to kick in sometimes in somebody’s life, and for JPL this is a moment – being told that he is unsuitable for ministry, and will never do so again. Give him all the help he needs to readjust, but with definite time and amount limits, and encourage him to look to other things. This is what life throws at most of us. Clergy should not be an exception. Yes, charity and kindness and support are required, but so is direction, tough love, and encouragement to move on.
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10.57: Thank you for your very kind and charitable comment. I share your approach. Hopefully JPL will be enabled to reconcile wuth an unpalatable truth that he cannot continue in ministry. The readjustment will be difficult for him but we should pray that he will be guided wisely this time. I have argued many times that charity and mercy are absolutes when we are dealing with individuals who seem unable to change or be renewed in some way. The relentless pursuance with vindictiveness of a very broken person is unnecessary. This man has been subjected to enough nastiness. His sinfulness and human failings have been called out very frequently. Is it justifiable to continue ugniminiously humiliate him?
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If someone has an addition the first step to recovery is to admit they need help and seek it.
Clergy like John Paul Little think they have done no wrong another example is if the police investigate and take no action the Clergy think they can still break their vows and hang on in there.
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10:33 am – It doesn’t matter how mature or resilient a person may be, if you have a load of animals attempting to silence, you are vulnerable!
I myself know what it is like to have wolves and the likes attacking you from most angles; it is not very nice at all, let me tell you, 10:33 am.
The guy is an adult, yes, but he is a bit like a lamb and outnumbered by wolves and vicious hyena.
Under these circumstances he is Not able to fully stand up for himself.
In addition, Church / Canon law is an issue with priests who abuse, I don’t really understand this myself — I understand the canonical application and procedures, yes — if a priest abuses a vulnerable person and is a present danger, then a size 8 boot should surpass Canon law anyday!
That’s just my view anyhow x
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Peter in Employment staff have a Employee rights so they are protected.
Clergy is governed by Canon Law and not just for abuse but for everything and theses Guys know this.
It has to be signed off by the Holy See to laicise a Priest and all the evidence gathered and sent to a Tribunal then the appeals then sent to Rome.
if they resign it is straight forward but sadly they do not resign.
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Auld Gossip Alert at 10:33am
The question asked was ‘how was this person ordained’ but sadly Jim S goes off tangent and gives us her ill informed advice about safeguarding teams and her usual sickening faux piety of saying a decade of the Rosary. It would take more than the fifteen decades to pray for that lot. The question still remains unanswered, it is astonishing that this person was ever ordained. The incidents with the policeman and falling out of Lyons window need to investigated by both the Ecclesiastical and the Civil Authorities to bring this matter to a close once and for all.
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Ms nasty there is No need in any way for you too address people in your ill mannered ways.
As you as a Professional Lady know too well even your department needs proof and that is what Bishops lack.
Priests cover up for each other all the time and sadly the Bishops struggle for evidence.
The constant threat by clergy is that they have Good Doctors meaning they will go long term sick.
Try and be nice I know it is hard with some of your words.
I have spoken to Safeguarding at Portsmouth today and the full issue of Father John Paul Lyttle is under investigation and will be solve as quickly as the Tribunal can
Certainly not a Gossip stick to Facts, Justice and Truth.
Why do some on this blog not join the Tribunals as laity and see at first hand how difficult it is even for Canon Lawyers.
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The “system” actually is, that “priest” is a state and a posting is a posting. He is reputedly not expected to have a position. Some confusion has arisen in Portsmouth about what to put on web pages (in some dioceses, even some priests in ministry aren’t listed); years ago, only a minority of parishioners troubled to acquire a directory. Paul VI’s mania for going on the media has made some clergy be considered more a public figure than they usually at core are.
An all-or-nothing theology has certainly not helped: should a priest be listed solely because he is a priest? I think it would be a mercy if churches had standing funds for priest resettlement into other occupations and that it would be accepted that a proportion would continually be resettled, many of them in good odour.
As for the policeman, he was looking up to a man of spiritual intensity and we were never taught that should be an occasion of being as on our guard as when being out and about. Then trendy catholicism pushes wine as a “sign” whereas the Reformed abstemiousness is far more advantageous; most normal English people drank much less in my early day.
Some dioceses don’t push clergy who are in burnout, too far: it is a false heroism and a false ideal to dictate through them. It is true that praying types should pray that ecclesial authorities should put their policies right, and of course some diocese bosses get slow.
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Auld Gossip Alert @3:12pm
You contacted Safeguarding at Portsmouth, who do you think you are? Miss Marple, there is no way they would have spoken to you about any investigation involving Lyttle or anyone else. You are such an interfering busybody you can’t help yourself. Yes there are a lot of people who are long term sick who should be investigated. As for facts Justice and Truth you should look for them and stop living up to your name the Gossip of all Gossips.
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Canonical process….
GHOSTBUSTERS ! 👻 😋
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Obviously Egan himself was caught in the headlights of JPL, held in thraldom to his “attractiveness” and mesmerised by his snake charming.
It’s utterly pathetic. Egan should be called to Rome to explain himself and his almost secretive ordination of Lyttle. His studiously ignoring all the flashing red lights and alarm bells which had been ringing for years!
What a shambles. But – of course – NOTHING will happen. Lyttle will be a permanent “mortgage on the Church” (P Francis), lurching along slugging red wine, drunkenly hitting on whosever he fancies. And unaccountable Egan will continue to destroy the Church in Portsmouth. Kyrie eleison.
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Pat, it’s the same here in Scotland. Sems running rings round formation staff and bishops and being let off with misconduct after misconduct. Motherwell and Paisley are notorious right now for allowing sems to do as they please and dart in and out of the shadows. It’s about time this stuff is called out!
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Stalker Alert same old for months from this guy with no evidence.
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Denier alert. Same old for months and since the bishops’ first rule is never write anything down there will never be any evidence.
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Evidence… all you need to do is look at their social media profiles! Unacceptable selfies for a seminarian and living a lifestyle that no layperson could dream of living!! Designer branding, nights in gay bars, socialising with homosexual politicians and simply in love with the attention. These lads need stopped!
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2.52
How much more evidence of hedonistic corruption is needed before Catholic sheep start bleating in recognition of the fact that they are being, have been, and will continue to be…had by the Romanist institution?
EVERY priest is a parasite, as useless as he is utterly unnecessary.
Donate your money to a home for bewildered cats rather than line the pocket of a single Romanist priest with it.
Make God proud. 😎
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7.47
How do you know? You haven’t met many. However, there has been one potential priest fewer since the day you parted company withe the diocese.
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Apart from the ordination of JP what has Auntie Phylis done to upset you?
One comment says he is ‘destroying the Church in Portsmouth.’
I admit it does seem odd that Cuthbert Brogan (Farnborough) is on a safeguarding committee. Anyone read the blog another extraordinary abbot?
Apparently the cathedral congregation is appalled as the heating isn’t on but the Bishop is having a sunken bath installed in Bishop’s House.
Could anyone provide further details?
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Why does Phylis need a sunken bath?
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Sunken bath? Very 1970’s
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To relax in. and do you know that there is a sunken or is it gossip again.
Archbishop of Glasgow has a Gym in his Villa to keep fit.
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He doesn’t seem to use it.
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Has he got a water bed and conversation pit as well?
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I suspect the reason Cuthbert is on a safeguarding committee is the same reason JPL got ordained – Phyllis being taken in by a very charismatic and apparently charming personality.
For some strange reason Farnborough keeps getting novices, even though it has got through dozens in the past 20+ years, at times three leaving at once. The majority are young so get taken in.
This persuasiveness behind the scenes is a major driver in what the church does, and when combined with the delusion you are inspired by God, is absolutely deadly.
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11.40
It’s as risible as tragic: the very notion that the innocent, and most vulnerable, need protection from the ‘men of God’ by…’the men of God’. 😢😅
I hope Jesus set up a safeguarding committee while on earth to protect little children from himself, and The Twelve, especially that Judas fella.
If ever proof were needed that the institutional Roman Catholic Church is a vile parody of Jesus’ followers, these ‘safeguarding’ committees are it.
Away with it!
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There is one thing that strikes me in the comments above. In any sensible organisation if you get a complaint about an employee’s conduct you meet with them or at least respond in some concrete way regardless of whether the complainant is perceived to be vulnerable.
If you have to complain of child abuse to get a meeting that spells a lack of respect.
I would contrast the response of the bank who employed ‘Central Park Karen’ who published that she had been terminated.
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12.29 You cannot approach any Clergy or Staff who submits sicknotes as it can be seen as harassment.
All you can do is ask them to see the Diocesan Doctor and that costs money and then usually they back agreeing with the original Doctor.
In tribunal terms all that can be done is take the clergy through the Tribunal for misconduct and that needs to be strong evidenced based.
In Scotland there is alone about 20 cases waiting and one has been going for Nine years in Motherwell. ( Father Stephen Miller)
The Famous Despard cases is now into year Seven.
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I meant a representative of the organisation would meet with the complainant, sorry!
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I think due process is the highest good. A web page is a web page; people’s names can always be put back on them. (Some organisations got told not to bother keeping them up to date.) A priest is minsitering quietly by his prayers meanwhile, as perhaps are many laity.
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Watch this space . Egan is going to keep JPL out the way for a year more, and then slip him into a Parish without saying about it on our web site.
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Classic move on the part of the bishop, and exactly how child abuse has been covered up.
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You are NOT a Portsmouth priest a nice try.
John Paul Lyttle will not just be slipped into a parish in a year.
You know very well if you are a member of the Clergy this is not happening and he is being assisted to see help and be who he is.
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I’m still in my scratcher and it’s almost lunchtime
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https://mailchi.mp/portsmouthdiocese/issue304
Link to questionnaire about the Diocese. Bishop Egan encourages us to let him know what we think.
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Anon,
Winersh seminarians had a fundraising canpaign for gym equipment some years ago.
Now that the seminary is closing where will the equipment go? Waste of money
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What is Winersh?
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Winersh is where two of Egan’s problematic chocolate boyz went
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Bishops Egan’s E-Newletter has a Message/Teaching from President Donald Trump, that great exemplar of truth and light – that’s sure to win hearts and minds and move us all to Make The Catholic Church Great again!!
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From Trump? 😅
The man is more and more exposed as a meglamaniac, narcissist, and as a dictator willing to push America into civil war to preserve his lamentably failed presdidency. The only thing he could teach the world is how NOT to be human.
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It was trendy about 35 years ago to say RC should emphasize sacrament less and the existential more. A whole bunch of us got interested, then the goods delivered weren’t what it said on the tin. It seems to have become fogeyish to go the other way. The on/off signals are always indistinct in the RC. Typically one has the element getting under the feet of those they claim to be acting for. Usually one has to look up to a faction that aren’t well enough trained or supervised by the region they come from. The only real remedy is to be firmer minded in doing our own thing (as some people but not all, were fortunate to be taught pre council).
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5.15
Father Robert Brucciani this afternoon advised me to just pray for you and not to get upset as your way of speaking and write (copy and pasted to him) is not the way of the SSPX.
Furthermore they have tried to make contact with you by telephone due to the Coronavirus restrictions and your contact details do not seem to be up to date.
However Father Sabastian Wall or Father Anthony Wingerden will try ad visit as soon as the restrictions are lifted.
Father Robert Brucciani says it is maybe because of lockdown you have be attached to the internet.
As for Portsmouth Diocese I did have a telephone call with then today.
God Bless you.
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Jim S alert !
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Do not get too excited now !!!!!!! 😉 🙂 🙂
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Auld Gossip Alert at 6:21 pm
You just can’t help yourself you’re are such a interfering busybody bothering all those poor priest’s with your gossip. They are used to dealing with malicious troublemakers like you I’ve already got a print out of your sentence for writing malicious letters, have you forgotten. I’m sure they will be very interested reading your about convictions, God Bless.
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I have never written a malicious letter and I have No convictions.
You will see the letters all signed by me in my name.
Father will show you them.
PVG is 100% Clear.
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I must have lost the thread, as I don’t see how the SSPX have been brought into this. If it is to do with Portsmouth, then surely Fr Wall, and Fr Windergen whom I remember from Salterton Road, are based in the far north? However, I am all for involving the SSPX in principle. I find Fr Sebastian Wall particularly compelling.
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My heavens, the English Priestly Dames are a bitchy lot!! Their invective would cut through cement. As for their grammar…pathetic – all seem like illiterates!!
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7.51
‘…all seem illiterate’.
Thought you should know…before you make further fool of yourself.😎
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8.11: Irrespective of my uncorrected comment, the TRUTH remains unchanged: English Priestly Dames are a bitchy lot. You just proved it. English Priestly Dames are a bitchy, stuffy lot. 👜👜👜👜👢👢👢👢👢…ha, ha, ha…👜👜👜..swing your handbag elsewhere…
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9.08
I’m not English; Anglo-Irish, granted. But not English.
So, from your silly xenophobic perspective, I’ve proved nothing at all…’cept what an uneducated idiot you are.😎😅
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Examples of activities while in a drunken state are too numerous list, Bp Pat, but in this case, after three bottles of wine, this JPL fellow was probably just being overly loving to this policeman, e.g., “I love you more than you know, you cock-sucking whore.” Just a thought.
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How do Roman Catholic priests feel about Romanist priesthood? This EVIL institution has almost destroyed the Roman Catholic Church, especially with its VERY high incidence of kiddie-fiddling by dirty Romanist priests and their colleagues/protectors.
Should these total misfits, whom Christ himself did NOT will, feel satisfied, or unspeakably ashamed?
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Spot on, more than amply illustrated by 9:26’s comment below. These men are scum and the only hope for humanity to survive their pernicious influence is for this dangerous cult to be legally controlled and all of its clergy tagged.
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MC at 9.11: Answer: I feel absolutely wonderful about being a Roman Catholic Priest. Wonderful that despite all crises, God has helped me to be still in ministry after 43 years. I am deeply committed to ministry. Sad that your demise through hatred continues to reach the point of no return. You’d have been a total disaster as a priest. You’d probably be in prison!!!
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9.26
You are right. But if not prison, then social exile…for revovering my conscience.
You, ‘Father’, seem uninterested in recovering yours…since you remain wonderfied by the fact that you are a priest of the Church rather than the God of the Church.
Bless your choices, ‘Father’.😃
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9.57: MC…now don’t loose your temper and good manners. What does “revovering” mean? Need I guess what caused your error? Water….As for wonderfied” ??? Doesn’t exist in my dictionary. I’m sorry you were flushed out and denied priesthood but I pray for you…Remember the words of Jesus…”Pray for those who persecute you.. “.
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He’s been mild there, wait until he’s finished the bottle.
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😅😅😅
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Nice attitude at 9:26
Smarmy self-satisfied, bitchy and full of hate. Probably had a few already and put a porno on.
You’re a disgusting excuse for a human being, never mind being a Christian priest. You should resign immediately, you make me sick.
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10.08
Yes, I do drink, from time to time. Occasionally to excess. But I do not watch ‘porn’. Never have. ‘Cept once, as a teenager. Emmanuelle. And yes, I did do, in private, a JP Lyttle.
Oh, God!😵
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10.08: I don’t drink: I am a very kind person: Love teasing haters and vicious craps: And the words you have expressed are what I’d expect from someone with their head deep up their a**e. What an apoplectic OTT, deranged comment😂😁🤣🤣😃😄😄😅👹👹👹👹…
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10.08: Whow – what an outpouring of poison. Could only come from a deformed brain helped by bottles of gin and a trashy existence. Get help for your madness. See a therapist.
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10.08: Awwwwww….you seem upset. Has the cat scratched your face or has your mummy slapped you across the backside? Don’t be a bold bully boy..
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9.21: Oh dear, Dame Felicity is enraged .. think you’ve picked up your Dameship from the upper classes – but all very pretentious…I’ve worked a little in your country…yuk!! Your condescension is very English…Take your chill pills…
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