I recently had to visit a consultant about the osteoarthritis in my hands.
He was a Catholic and said something that made me think:
“I treat a lot of priests of your vintage who have arthritis in the hands from getting their hands stuck into on the ground pastoral work”.
It made me think back.
During my five years as a curate in St. Peter’s Cathedral – in the midst of a woefully deprived area, I did use my hands a lot.
As the founding chairman of the Divis Resident’s Association, I organised a major cleanup of the area involving myself and the parishioners sweeping streets, filling skips with rubbish, washing walls and painting them.
In other ways, in places like the youth club and schools, and holiday trips, you got stuck in very physically as well.
And I wasn’t the only one doing it. There were others in Belfast like Father Matt Wallace RIP and Father Paddy McWilliams who were quite happy to get their hands dirty.
And others like Fr Des Wilson, Belfast and Father McDyer of Donegal.
We saw ourselves as servants of the parishioners and not superior to them and if they got tired and dirty we got tired and dirty with them.
The modern priest seems to be a totally different character.
He is obsessed about his status as ontologically changed.
He is dressed in more black than an undertaker and wears a collar the size of a surgical collar.
He wants to say Mass in Latin wearing tons of brocade, gold leaf and lace.
If you want to see him you must make an appointment to see him with the parish secretary.
All my life, until this say, Ive had no secretary and I’m available 24/7.
People in crisis dont need an appointment. They need instant access to their pastor – even if it is at 3 am.
My days in parishes, apart from Mass and the Sacraments, revolved around school visitation morning and afternoon and the youth club in the evening.
And there was time for fun having a pint with the youth leaders after 9.30 pm in a social club – where it was also normal for me to be approached about issues or to hear a Confession.
These younger guys spend their spare time, of which there’s a lot, visiting other Latin queens, drinking pink gin, pouring over vestment catalogues – thats when they are not having gay sex with each other or visiting cruising spots and saunas.
They will never have osteoarthritis in their manicured and moisturised hands.
I remember an old London lady telling me about his former PP the later Cardinal John Heenan. He was never off the streets and out of the homes of his parishioners in the East End. When he sat down in homes parishioners noticed holes in the soles of his shoes.
There are so few examples of real priests now among the under 40s.
Seminaries and dioceses are now full of pansy clerics who never did a day’s work in their lives, dont really believe, never pray but just enjoy posing on clerical pedestals.
The priesthood, more than ever needs:
Pastors not dictators.
Adults, not teenagers that never grew up.
Men more concerned about changing the lot of their not parishioners, not the ontologically changed obsessives.
Priests on streets, priests in homes, priests in food banks.
AND NOT
Upstarts and snobs dressed as Victorian clergymen.
BISHOP PAT BUCKLEY 
123 replies on “DO WE REALLY WANT THE PRIESTHOOD OF THE FUTURE TO BE ABOUT ACTIVELY GAY MEN WEARING BROCADE AND LACE AND NOT BEING PROPER PASTORS?”
I don’t see anywhere in England where the priests or seminarians wear any form of clerics apart from a slip in collar at most. There is a recent tendency to turn every aspect of an ordination into the equivalent of a wedding with invitations, formal photographs and wearing cassocks but no where is Latin used in parishes. There are an increased number of Oratories with some variations on the new mass and two priestly societies for the old mass but neither of them have parishes only shrine churches. The seminarians at Oscott would not be able to sing anything in Latin apart from the Missa de Angelis.The first year Latin exam is to translate the names of the rooms in the seminary. Perhaps the Anglican converts are to blame?
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Oscott is a knocking shop for gay seminarians. In and out of each other’s rooms all night long. Hoping over the wall to the local cruising sites. No gay bars or saunas at the moment, but when they are they will be off to London and Manchester. Local ones just a bit too obvious. Oratories ? It’s worth going along to watch the antics. I love the Oxford one. Free entertainment any Sunday.
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DO WE REALLY WANT THE PRIESTHOOD OF THE FUTURE TO BE ABOUT ACTIVE HOMOSEXUAL MEN WEARING ANORAKS DENIM POLYESTER AND SWEATERS AND NOT BEING PROPER PASTORS?
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The other kind of pastor didn’t do you any good.
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6.16 No need to shout, if your argument is valid.
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Do we really WANT the priesthood?
We certainly don’t need it.
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That’s what we have had in the Past and there is no indication out of Rome they desire anything different
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6:45pm
Just using uppercase as Patsy did, my point of view is as valid as anyone else’s don’t remember you giving out about that.
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6:21pm
Nor did yours!
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Fr Etienne in Blackpool loves his lace!
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Is he gay?
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That Lancaster bishop needs to sort Etienne out rather than spending his time falling off his bicycle. The man’s got his head in the sand. There is real trouble brewing there in Blackpool.
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There is! He is now banned from 2 Primary schools for his attitude towards parents and teachers. Can you believe that? Ordained 5 mi a and causing chaos.
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The Lancaster bishop is call Bishop Paul Swarbrick and he advises that this is a vendetta against Farther Etienne on this blog and by individuals and he has no concerns.
And anyone with any concerns should contact his office direct rather than on a blog.
Bishop Paul Swarbrick
Balmoral Road
Lancaster
LA1 3BT
Tel: 01524 596050
bishop@lancasterrcdiocese.org.uk
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I hope that Mrs’s murderer husband is banned from every school when he gets out of prison.
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He can wear even more and often if he choose to live as gay… to be true to himself!!!
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Richard Scorer says that Fr Quigley’s crimes could have been detected years earlier than they were, if only the archdiocese of Birmingham had passed information to the police much sooner.
https://twitter.com/Richard_Scorer/status/1360204853872590850?s=19
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Not this canard again, Pat. Roaree, Mrs McCamley, McCarrick and the whole lot of them are liberals in polyester chasubles.
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9:36pm
You’re right some people can’t see or don’t want to see that the the majority of that lot are all polyester queens with no lace they haven’t the taste, too common. It’s anorak’s,denim,golf sweaters and call me Tom,Dick or Harry with that lot. Ugh!
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Has the accent on the ontological change thing changed? Was it soft-pedalled when you were at seminary?
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I was told about it in seminary. But the big emphasis was on prayer and pastoral action.
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Pat: a little but too much of self praise!!!!…But you make an interesting observations. The modern priests are not at all “modern”. They are in a different world. Some are learning fast about being “real” human beings and not clerical automatons or defenders of rituals and traditions, important as they are. Those of us ordained 60/50/40 years somehow learned a theology and pastoral spirituality of being with people and available always..We visited hones regularly, the sick were paramount, the poor and lonely cared for, schools administered well and faithful chaplaincy given, adult catechesis important. Sadly, with the shortage of priests these regular works of mercy, caring ministry and pastoral priorities have changed. It’s not possible for one priest to do everything. Also, the social, economic and cultural revolutions have changed the meaning and expectations of priestly ministry and presence. We are “wanted” by some but I wouldn’t feel comfortable knocking on doors as I once did in the 70’s! And I’m not so sure if Pat’s shoes would be full of holes if he was presently in a full time parish setting. I don’t mean this unkindly but to indicate that attitudes have changed considerably in the past 25 years. I do not arrange to meet people through the parish secretary. Never. Secretaries may receive phone calls and enquiries but we take care of people thereafter. Let’s not caricature and create the “lazy” priest narrative. When we criticise and caricature we should look to our conscience first! Considering all that’s happened within the chyrch I am surprised any man would want to join the priesthood. It requires a total renewal and to live it fully and totally with dedication, cinviction and in a truly Christ-like way is a huge challenge. It is easy to fall and be ridiculed for simply doing your best.
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As a former RC priest who is also excommunicated I couldn’t agree more. I was so sick at seminary of students comparing the amount of lace on their cottas. They wouldn’t know how to do a hard days work, wouldn’t want to damage the delicately anointed hands.
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Why were you “excommunicated”?
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He’s deluded
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10.10 am
As a lay person, as regards to your excommunicated, won’t judge you on that cos you are human being first as we all make mistakes. Nobody is perfect. FYI, even owner of this blog is excommunicated as well.
I would appreciate if you could explain why were you excommunicated and thank you.
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Nosey Parker. None of your business
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Deaf Guy. Pat Buckley has never been excommunicated and has NO letter from the Vatican to say likewise.
Pat Buckley by his rights resides in a diocesan property and if he were excommunicated then Pat Buckley would post the official letter on here, maybe around Saint John Pauls time as Pontiff if Pat Buckley was excommunicated.
As for 10 10. he is deluded as Peter says about being excommunicated.
Furthermore the Church has not excommunicated anyone if you look at the history the SSPX and other Latin Brigade are still around after Vatican two and also the Church has accommodated all the Anglicans.
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8.11. Sorry to point out but Pat has been excommunicated. Here’s Canon Law.
Can. 1382 A bishop who consecrates some one a bishop without a pontifical mandate and the person who receives the consecration from him incur a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See.
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Fair play to you fella. And I’ll bet you’re not a bit bothered by the “excommunication ” crap. I’m not. Left that rotten ragbag of weasel like imposters a long time ago and never looked back
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@1.26pm I bet you were asked to leave, you know, got shown the door, given the boot/shoe, kicked out, thrown out, deemed and considered unsuitable.
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@1:45. If you could bet money as big as your mouth, with a willingness to back up your assertions, I’d certainly gamble against you, ……..a fool and his money are easily parted: and there’s little doubt that you’re one.
It is very pleasant to look back and reflect just how fortunate I’ve been to have seen through all the smoke and mirrors facade of the RCC.
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Anon at 8.11pm
Have a look here re + Buckley and Irish Bishops when he was made a Bishop 👇
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/excommunication-follows-after-priest-is-made-a-bishop-1.163077%3fmode=amp
Agree with you have said there re SSPX, Anglicans but what about Eastern orthodox?
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You’re spot on there, Pat.
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What happened and changed to make the Catholic priesthood a pansy, dandy, fairy and frilly lacy vocation – driving out the straights and hetero – replacing them with gay mafias, pink cliques and paedos!! What the feck went wrong – why and when?
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Because the majority of the genuine seminarians are hounded out and, the Bishops allow this because they do not want genuine priests; they want men who will put the institution before Christ and the Gospels.
If you enter a Roman seminary, nowadays, with a genuine vocation and a sincere heart you are a sitting duck.
If you are bold enough to fight for justice and expose that which is evil or criminal – then they will class you as a “Danger” to their ways.
Of course, the irony is: they are the dangerous ones – they are a danger to anybody even remotely vulnerable.
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Remember, if you even attempt to do good or bring about light or justice by entering into any kind of dialogue with a Roman Bishop — just convince yourself, beyond ALL doubt, that you are entering into dialogue with Satan himself. This way, you will be under no illusions… You will be far better prepared.
Any objectives of bringing about light, love or justice will likely be more attainable.
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The Priesthood is not all about attention seekers like Pat, Buckley, Ray the singer, the 3 Priest singers, D’Arcy, Magill, Canny et al all grabbing the headlines. All about me, me, me. If you want to do good works then fine but don’t boast about what you’ve done and use the sermon to talk about it. Ponces the lot of ye and poncing about all the time.
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Pat, you need to read about arthritis from reputable medical journals. As one who worked physically hard all through my seven seminary years for my expenses and who also played much sport which caused injury, resulting in surgery with subsequent arthritis in later years, I don’t think lifting, sweeping, pulling weeds, shovelling and painting are necessarily causes of arthritis, unless it’s your life’s fulltime work for 15/20/30 years! Arthritis may be genetic. Your theory is a little simplistic. Some of my family worked in farming and the building industry, damn hard, and do not have arthritis. I also think you are too bitchy and judgmental about younger clerics. That they don’t emulate your “sacrificial hard grafting” (???) doesn’t make them bad!! You are no icon…
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Pat have you maintained regular contact with Michael Byrne. Please advise.
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5:18 am
The obsessive stalker who continues to bully and harass MB.
This article may help
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/mind-stalker-why-torment-someone
The overwhelming majority of stalkers are men — four to one, Zitek says. Psychiatrists have developed several stalker profiles:
The rejected stalker. This person was rejected in a relationship, and they perceive it as an insult, they feel wounded, and they are seeking vindication.
The resentful stalker. These are self-righteous, self-pitying people who may threaten, but they are the least likely to act on it.
The intimacy-seeking stalker. They believe they are loved or will be loved by the victim. Often they focus on someone of higher social status. This person is mentally ill and delusional.
The incompetent. This person is socially backward. They don’t really understand the social rules involved in dating and romance and don’t mean any harm.
The predator. This is about sex gratification, control, and violence. The stalker doesn’t necessarily know the victim. The victim may not know they are being stalked. But a predator plans their attack, rehearses it, has lots of sexual fantasies about it.
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I don’t know why Pat thinks it enhances his blog to allow free expression to stalkers. There are at least three on the blog most days.
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There’s plenty of men who fit the bill going to seminary but they won’t stay to be pansy-ified by the Ger Cremins, Tommy McHugh’s and Ryan McAleers of this world. 7 years of being being bitched at by people who misperceive the world is a lot of life.
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Those five men pictured look really at ease with themselves. Not smirking,
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It’s showbusiness for closet queens, Bp Pat, most can kick their height and change vestments in less than 78 seconds.
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The +Aul Doll can kick up to 1,200 times a day according to her FitBit smartwatch.
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Some hit the big time like Fr Sugar Ray.
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The ageing actress Kitty Kirby deserves an Oscar for her performances.
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Elijah is a good wee actress too.
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Excellent blog Pat, you at your very best. The priests you speak of had catechized children, full attendance at mass and personally knew all their parishoners.
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osteoarthritis can also mean hands that are rarely used. Priests hands are radically different from those of farmers, builders and people doing manual labour. Priests helping to decorate, throw a few bits of rubbish out and youth work is not work in the proper sense.
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When I meet a priest who is under 40 years of age, I assume automatically that he is homosexual, and that there is a strong likelihood that he is acting out his homosexuality to some degree, including, for some of them, up to and including the rather extreme behaviours that are described in this blog on a regular basis. For the rest, for the most part homosexual clergy will engage in relationships at various levels, sexually and emotionally expressed. Those who sublimate who they are under the character of their priesthood so often become very strange and odd, and if you dig a bit deeper you will discover that they are very frustrated, angry and full of self-loathing. This is a toxic mix. Lace and brocade can only compensate to a certain degree. The priesthood as lived in our days is predominantly homosexual and sexually active.
These men, and the Church they represent, insist on us believing the fiction that they are celibate and chaste. I think they believe that they are fooling us. Well, dear Fathers, that is not the case. We know pretty clearly what you are up to, and how you are living your lives. For the most part, I couldn’t give a jot about their orientation or proclivities. What I do care about is the institutionalised hypocrisy that takes place, and the arrogance they exhibit in assuming that we will be taken in by their dysfunction and their lies.
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9.27: You’ve written this stuff before many times. Has your brain limited capacity that you cannot write anything except repeat, ad infinitum the same old supposed learned observations….move on to another, more interesting chapter..
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Heenan was a fussy queen of the old school, and able to get away with it at the time. I very much doubt if he was sexually aware or active, rather asexual. But, a really Mummy’s boy. When asked if he had ever loved a woman, his response was ‘yes, his mother’ ! I’m sure if you took the time to dig a bit deeper, you will find with all these old school types like Heenan that they surrounded themselves with good looking secretaries and flunkies, and lived a rather effete lifestyle. That was their compensation.
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9:47am
What a nasty old Queen you are, Lord Rest Cardinal Heenen an excellent Prelate.
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I’m with you @4:17 pm. John Carmel Heenan was a fine man and one of the last decent bishops in E & W.
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I’m a youngish priest and what you describe is sadly true. Hopefully not about myself lol. But some of them just love swishing about in a cassock, making people’s heads turn. Not out of admiration but to laugh. As I do also.
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Why is Eugene Sweeney becoming very vocal about Stephen Wilson being part of an illegal online network.
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10:24
You attempted to smear a decent priest here yesterday. I can’t speak for the seminarian. You don’t care about the difference between truth and lies.
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He is not vocal. Leave Stephen alone please for Gods sake.
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Matt Wallace was a legend! A true man of the people.
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10:30am
Not every one thought so, nor with Wilson either he was just an auld liberation theology ejit.
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Agreed. Those pair, Matt and Des, were in the right parish and thankfully kept up there.Big fish in a wee goldfish bowl.
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If you’re half the person Des Wilson was you’ll be something to write home about.
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Ah the modern priest, some want to hook up with you on Grindr, some want to put on a webcam show for you, some want to show you their underwear, some want to bareback you in a sauna etc etc etc…..
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10.48am You get a cheap thrill talking about such things don’t you? It turns you on which is rather sad and pathetic because why else go into such smutty detail.
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Grindr = Roreee. Underwear = Captain Underwear / Polly Pryer / Puck. Bareback Sauna = Rawhide Purcell. Who is Webcam ?
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Mrs McCamley
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6:50pm
Only in your opinion, as you can see above others agreed with me.
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Pansy clerics – oh, I know a few of them ! But, are they any worse than the old priest who has fag ash and his dinner down his jumper, is wearing the same pair of stained black trousers he’s worn for the last six months, has dandruff on his jacket shoulders, hairs growing out of his ears and nose, and smells stale and rancid ? I think I know what I prefer ! Give me Eau de Change Ontologique any day !
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And I know what a prefer…a complete and irreversible dearth of priests. They are, despite all the effusive lionisation of them, just dressed up, and utterly and undeniably useless ornaments.
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Lily Savage gives some tips on applying lip gloss — lip gloss with glitter 😂
. https://youtu.be/zpNKJSXXRbU
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The blame for all of this lies with the former Anglican priests who came over. I’ve never met one who does a days work.
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The ex Anglican queens have destroyed the Church in England and the C of E are glad to be rid. Why is it a whole gang load of them Westminster priests in the past all went down old compton street after the Chrism Mass to quaff gin and gorge on food. The screeches of them in that part of Soho whilst dressed in their mile high collars was most unedifying to see. Then it was off to get dressed in every bit of lace, finery and tatt for the Mass of the Lords Supper after having bitched about fellow clerics and Elsies homily at the Chrism Mass.
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I bet you were there yourself stuffing food into your fat gob.
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12.09pm You are getting me mixed up with porky Monty dear especially if gin was involved and food.
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You have made all that up – anyone in Westminster knows that the Chrism Mass is held on a Tuesday,
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Which is why they have all afternoon to mince all afternoon round the gay village. I just checked that story with a Westminster priest friend and he assures me it is true. The other commentator naturally assumed the Chrism Mass was Thursday as in most places.
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Is that ex Anglican still round Westminster in the East End, the one with the shaven head, ear ring and wears DM’s. He makes Julian Clary look butch and has a right nasty vile mouth on him. He is but only one example of how the ex Anglicans have ruined Westminster as Elsie looks on. Anyone dares to attack one of their number and out comes the sharpened nails, teeth, handbags and the gin bottles. Some of them are the worst products of St Stephens House in Oxford. Richard Chartres, the retired Bishop of London, used to say with a long sigh about them, we are grateful to Rome for some things.
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Richard Chartres was one of the most horrible men in London. He should never have been made a bishop, though, come to think of it, he wasn’t made a bishop.
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David Evans
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Lies. Westminster’s Chrism and Maundy Thursday Masses are held on separate days.
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Refer to 1.05pm. It’s a shame Fr that you don’t want to accept some of your fellow gay clergy in Westminster go to the gay village after the Chrism Mass but you do know that is a true fact. Whether the Chrism Mass is a Tuesday or Thursday is immaterial.
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Along with many others today, you are very wrong on a number of points about ex Anglican clergy.
Firstly to call them queens is disparaging. Many of them are married with children. Please do not use that term to Father Ed Tomlinson, married man with children and a RUGBY player. He writes a lovely blog with no bitchy comments. Many of them are lawyers and professional people. Indeed one deacon is judge. So be careful what you write.
Secondly, the mother church of the Ordinariate is in Golden Square at the west end of Soho very close to the London Palladium. So i would expect them to dine near there. Were you with them when you heard them bitching about his eminence’s homily? If so, you are a bit of a Judas. If not, I suspect that it is the usual London wide boy comment “somebody told me ” or “I just heard”.
Garngad Lad
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Married and a rugby player means nothing. I knew an ex C of E become Catholic priest who worked in a specialised chaplaincy role, with wife and kids, but he also ran a hot affair with a boyfriend at the same time. Married, kids and rugby player / football player / macho / buff….means nothing. It all depends on where they like to put their todger.
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7.35. The Ordinariate has it’s own Chrism Mass
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There are quite a few ex Anglican queens who crossed over to be part of Westminster before this farce of an Ordinariate came into existence. The ex Anglicans who belong to Westminster want nothing to do with the Ordinariate- a total different set up and a total nonsense.
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The HOLY GID will send wrath to anyone doing nasty to HOLY PRIESTS who are the GID’S anointed. THE HOLY MARY will not be happy
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Not you again! DELUDED EEJIT!
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The bizarre ahistorical misconceptions on all sides in the church.
1. There was a decree from the sacred congregation of rites in the 30s (sorry I don’t have the reference) which said any lace should depend on the rank of the cleric, which for a plain priest meant none.
2. Ellard’s mass of the future gives pictures of mass as it was actually already celebrated before the council, with no baroquery. The reaction against that had been going on for at least a century.
3. The current code of canon law says seminarians should be fluent in Latin.
4. At the time the new breviary came out you still had to get dispensed to say it in the vernacular and this has not changed.
5. The Anglo Catholic priests of the past were renowned as slum priests and hard workers, even the posh ones.
Conclusions:
There is a lot of politicking and dressing up going on, which is unrelated to the past.
Parties in the church have drawn up behind positions and styles which are not historical.
The solution to this is look at the actual history to avoid ahistorical partisanship.
It is quite possible to be celebrating mass back to the people, in Latin, and say the breviary in Latin and follow the council to the letter.
My own opinion is lace is hideous and churches are getting more like old lady’s drawing rooms. Cases in point would be the oratories, Corpus Christi Maiden Lane and Farnborough Abbey.
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Please provide a reference supporting your claim that a dispensation was ever required to pray the revised Liturgy of the Hours in the vernacular.
12.16
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@1:21
It’s somewhere in the documents of Vatican 2 but I don’t have time to look through at the moment sorry. Probably in the document which says Gregorian chant and the organ should be given pride of place 😀
I expect it will also be in the 1917 Codex.
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2:14
You don’t have time to look because you won’t find it in Sacrosanctum Concilium. If it was in the 1917 code the documents of the Second Ecumenical Council of the Vatican would have superseded it. You are talki g nonsense, as may be seen from the rest of your post.
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6:59: no, you’re arguing from an absence. The question was whether a dispensation was ‘ever’ required to say the office in the vernacular so your point about the council is irrelevant.
Let’s turn it round since you’re being so silly – produce evidence that priests ever fulfilled their obligation to say the office by saying it in the vernacular before vè2. You won’t find any because the only people who ever said the office in the vernacular were sisters, lay brothers and the laity. Priests had to be proficient in Latin for a reason.
The thing which has changed is a priest can join in the office if say he is staying in a religious house, without saying the Roman office. In the old days you would see diocesan priests in chapels of monasteries on retreat muttering their own office because the monastic office didn’t fulfill his obligation and you actually had to say it with your lips.
Let me know when you find that reference…..
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8:53
No! The question was not was it ever required. The question was (Point 4 in your post) whether a dispensation was required when the new breviary came out (i.e. 1974), as you claimed. Answer: no.
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@12.16 You have to be thanked for a well referenced and authoritative comment. What on earth is going on at Maiden Lane? Is the resident priest well known for his excesses?
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My impression on occasional visits there is that the PP is not into Latin or lace, but seems happy for his church to be used by those who are. There is quite a long history of the Old Rite being used at Maiden Lane going back to the time of Henry Dodd PP – anyone remember him back in the dark days of the seventies? He was the complete antithesis of the young lace queens of today and had absolutely no interest in flummery or interior decoration either in his church or very basic accommodation in his presbytery. RIP
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That’s seven oratories, one shrine church and one Abbey quite a small number in comparison to the number of parish churches without any lace or Latin
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Those Novus Ordo parishes are husks. Covid will finish them off.
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There’s more here than the examples the commenter gives. Here in Birmingham we have a number of diocesan priests who rush off to get into lace and say the Latin Mass, even if they don’t get the chance in their parishes. One of them is bizarrely national ecumenical officer, despite apparently having no understanding or respect for any other denomination at all…
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Why are Barbados being called into audit Archdiocese of Birmingham when they have track record and public record of destroying documents relating to the cover up of child abuse – surely that’s poacher turned gamekeeper and can only result in whitewash and further cover up!! Calling in Barnardos is like asking Sam Penny to write a report on Joe Quigley – audits just another word for cover up – all in a days work for a diocese working hard to protect cash and assets which they are loathe to pay out to victims of child abuse!! If I’m wrong shot me down in flames!!
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Barnardos is another “charity” masquerading as totally reliant on voluntary contributions. As said on the blog recently, they calculate and cost up all and any services they provide, and charge organisations full costs for that service. This allows them to pay well above average salaries to all their staff, salaries well above equivalent workers in statutory public sector employment.
And they go to considerable lengths to maintain a positive high public image both through advertisements, and taking on high profile work.
You can bet they’ll be getting well paid for this project. And all the while claiming tax relief as a “charitable institution!”
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A propos Birmingham, it was announce today that a new Chief Operating Officer has been appointed. The previous one was only there for a couple of years, a guy with a good background in industry and charities. Why has he gone so soon ? I bet he just got fed up with the Church ignoring what he was telling them they should do in order to clean up their act and sort the shambles out. All because Father Instant Wisdom knows best every time, because of the ontological change that he underwent at ordination !
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The other cosy and nice thing about these charities is their ability to pick and choose what “work” they do. This selectivity means they won’t touch anything too problematic, or that might harm their image. NSPCC is well known for this: they pick up the cushy stuff and leave the “shit” for ordinary workers to pick up.
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I wonder, when lockdown lifts, how parents will ever persuade children to go to Mass? They had to be shouted at and bribed to go before the lockdowns started. Now that the Mass-going habit has been broken it will be hard to restart it, and not only for the children.
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Going to Mass is a ‘habit’? A ‘habit’?
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Yes. A habit. And a silly habit at that.
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Do Gratias!
Where I grew up, many of the men stood outside at the gates, smoking and chatting until mass started. They then went in to stand at the back and some sat on the stairs to the balcony playing poker. They “had to get mass in”
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Recently ordained in the Diocese of Northampton https://northamptondiocese.org/ordination-to-the-sacred-priesthood-of-daniel-rooke/ The Bishop could have instructed him to desist from lace and silly vestments.
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The table altar behind him seems to be made out of altar rails
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Poor Fr Daniel looks, as the Italians would say, “un po’ deficiente ” Is there a “mancanza” in the young man ? And that’s to say nothing about his Lord Bishop ! Oh stop, do stop being so unkind…. ! You will pay for it in Purgatory….. ! I know ! But, it’s only what most people are thinking.
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6:14pm
You are right the horrible Cranmer table does look like it was made from altar rails. Another desecration the mad mods will pay for.
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Mother of Jesus protect us from such frivolities. Amen
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6:33pm
I rather think it’s you that’s lacking in taste and there is nothing deficent in wearing for once magnifico paramenti
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5:48pm
Wonderful, so nice to see a decent alb instead of the usual zippered polyester rag they use now. Also a Roman Chasuble excellent.
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@ 6:58 – looks like you can’t spell deficient in English, never mind in Italian. And I think you will find it should be ‘magnifici paramenti’ ? Try and get it right in at least one language, please….
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It’s the future. The lib priests ran the Church into the ground. The young priests will rebuild it.
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Deo Gratias!
Where I grew up, many of the men stood outside at the gates, smoking and chatting until mass started. They then went in to stand at the back and some sat on the stairs to the balcony playing poker. They “had to get mass in”
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Lol I remember doing this with them as a child.
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Very interesting that actual ministry hasn’t come up in the comments at all today. Very very telling and as usual Pat’s moderation policy gives the clergy full rein to show how bitchy they are.
My own opinion would be that a newly ordained priest should be clad in the diocesan vestment to show him entering the presbyterate.
Actually I think a priest should be ordained privately as they often were until ordinations became like weddings. Even if not private in the past where many priests were ordained at once it was clearly a group thing and not a bizarre ceremony which seems to focus on nothing but the individual before he shuffles off to St Luke’s.
Incidentally people keep saying the priesthood is dysfunctional. Since the whole point of celibacy is saying goodbye to a huge part of human life you can’t really expect them to be that well adjusted – that is the whole point.
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I think the parish priest will probably knock the nonsense out of him. He is p/t prison chaplain. Wont be turning up for mass dressed in lace for that duty, That is for sure.
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And Wankersch is closing its doors soon, the Bitches and Queens are off to the A-Hole, Ooh Scott! and other similar catholic pink areas. It’s not like Ooh Scott! and the A-Hole will be less gay in the future!
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Oh, let me in…..
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Now Fathers dear and people of good standing does one not know that Priesthood is a gift given by God to a chosen few who after many centuries have condescended to speak in English so that the masses may hear yet not understand . They do come in handy when money is needed. Remember the Fathers are children of the Emperor
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