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ABBOT RICHARD PURCELL CASE NOW MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE ROMAN CORRIDORS OF POWER.

The case of Abbot Richard Purcell which has featured on the blog for a while, has now begun to make its way through the Vatican’s corridors of power.

The case is being brought by a small number of Catholic lay men and women – long time supporters of Mount Melleray.

They are using funds they intended to leave to the monastery in their wills to finance the case.

They have employed a number of Roman canon lawyers and an Irish senior counsel to guide and advise them.

Initially they had hoped that Purcell would do the right think himself.

No hope of that I’m afraid.

What has happened to the admirable and godly Cistercians?

LOCAL BISHOPS RESISTING FRANCIS ON WOMEN LECTORS AND ACOLYTES.

Pope Francis recently changed canon law to allow for women to be admitted to the “minor orders” of Lector and Acolyte.

It would involve the bishop enrolling women in in these two “orders” traditionally reserved to male seminarians as part of their journey to priesthood.

It would be a very positive step towards the integration of women into the male dominated church.

Francis is not getting much of a reaction from the world’s bishops.

So much for Catholics obeying the pope.

108 replies on “ABBOT RICHARD PURCELL CASE NOW MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE ROMAN CORRIDORS OF POWER.”

Regarding the case of Dom Purcell. If true I am saddened to hear that a group of lay people have to do this. Why have the ecclesiastical authorities, the Abbot General & the local ordinary, not been able to take the appropriate measures in this case?

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Another wonderful spiritually uplifting Lenten talk for our inspiration!! If inly. The blog is rotten to its core. It invites mockery, ridicule, jeering, condemnation and a further humiliating of chosen individuals… Sad that all of this is done so easily. Maybe Christ will find his way into your heart.

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It’s not this blog which invites all of the above, dear — it is the above mentioned behaviour of individuals and groups who bring themselves and others to the attention of this blog. They have brought themselves into disrepute, sweety. We are merely talking about what is topical.

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Yes…. Maybe Christ will find his way into our hearts…. And Dom Dickie will be finding his way into any old back passage within a mile’s radius 😂

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12.16: You have a perversion. Morally impoverished with that ignorant comment.

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Good for the bishops resisting opening up admission as lectors and acolytes. That Francis decision reflects a clericalist view that says that being on the sanctuary is a superior calling for elite lay people (a bit like the drive for permanent deacons) and that the more clerical you are the better.

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it’s all the elite in our parish who get to do the readings, eucharistic minister and become members of the parish council – ‘Fr John asked me’. It’s always the big shots.

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Yes, the teachers, retired librarians, and ex-bank managers in my parish do all that.

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1. If the Purcell matter is being progressed through the Roman canon law courts, then that is a good thing. It is disappointing that the matter was not addressed by Purcell himself (either he’s in complete denial or has just decided to tough it out), nor by the OCSOs who seem just to be weak, nor by the local bishop who just seems to want to bury his head in the sand. The matter going to Rome will escalate the case of Purcell, and even though I am not convinced that they will deal with it transparently, given the Church’s inclination to minimise and cover up as much as they can ‘in order to prevent scandal to the faithful ‘ (!), it will at least put Purcell on their radar and it might just clip his wings.
2. Returning to yesterday’s blog about Langham. I’ve followed the story, and have a sense of a narrative whereby there was an incident involving an 18 + young man, who seems to have been an ‘altar server’, involving a drinks’ party and the presence of other senior clerics, in particular + Longley when he was an auxiliary in Westminster. There appears to have been an incident of Langham ‘french kissing’ this young man. Now, even giving Langham the benefit of the doubt as much as possible, and even entertaining the possibility that this young man was a bit of a tease / flirt and may even have occasioned the ‘french kiss’, there is still an unease and disquiet about a senior cleric such as Langham, who technically was the young man’s ’employer’ or superior, finding himself in such a situation where such a thing could happen. Even given it might have been initiated by the young man, it is the senior and more mature person’s responsibility, especially where there is a power / authority disparity, to ensure that these situations and circumstances do not arise. It’s called prudence. Inviting a young man to an intimate drinks’ party in his private quarters sets all the alarm bells going. That + Longley seems to have felt it necessary to calm things down by taking the young man out to dinner, a questionably imprudent invitation itself, suggests that there was a a need to calm things down because what happened was disquieting to all concerned. All of these facts of the narrative indicate a very ill advised and imprudent situation and actions on the part of the more mature and senior people there, including Langham. If such a thing had taken place in the world of work and business in which I am involved, particularly involving a senior person and someone more junior, it would not just raise eyebrows, it would be looked at closely, questions would be asked and the necessary action taken.
3. Maybe, just maybe, Langham’s removal to Rome from Westminster was occasioned by incidents such as these. It does, however, seem odd that it was thought wise to bring him back to take up a role as the chaplain at Cambridge University, where 18+ year old men abound !
4. There is no doubt that Langham was a talented and personable man, with the languid and gilded gifts that saw him considered to be part of the clerical glitterati of Westminster. It would appear, however, that there was another side to the coin that would manifest itself in the presence of young men and drink, and lead Langham to engage in imprudent behaviour. To this can be added the behaviour and lifestyle expected by the Church itself of its priests, namely purity and chastity of thought and action, and the whole situation just becomes more and more questionable.

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Another name mentioned yesterday in connection with Langham / Cambridge etc was Fr. John Osman, one time chaplain at Cambridge himself and mate of Couve de Murville, who installed him in a grace and favour Georgian rectory with its own River Thames mooring at Dorchester on Thames. That was well over 25 years ago, and I believe Osman is still there. Nice work if you can get it. Talk about patronage, and nice things being given to those in favour ! Osman comes out of that Oxbridge set, teetering on the edge of naughtiness, surrounded by nice things, and nice people, and able to live a rather pleasant and effete lifestyle of fine food and wine, antiques and paintings, with a bit of lace, brocade, and Puginesque stencilling thrown in !

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There’s an interesting theme going on in the mention of Langham and Osman and others like them. In other words, the favoured, in receipt of nice episcopal patronage, and being given the comfortable, well endowed and plum jobs and parishes. It is a question of who you know, and how close you are to the source of patronage. I doubt if any of those nice London / Westminster parishes, or those Oxfordshire along the Thames parishes, are given to just anybody. The Catholic Church still works on the personal patronage model. There is no ‘best man for the job’ principle, no interviews, no assessments, nothing that you get in the rest of life and work. It run on whether the bishop like you, are you able to suck up to him, are you in the right circles with him. I think Osman is a priest of Leeds. Why is he not back up there ? God forbid, I bet he’s long shaken off the northern dust from his feet…..

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the HOLY SPIRIT decides all the things thst the HOLY PRIESTS are to do and the parishes they are to do in what you said about snobbery has no place in the lifestyles of the PRIESTS this is not the truth

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My understanding is that he continues to be faithful to his priestly and monastic commitments and will continue to do so outside of the Silverstream orbit.

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He looks like a big alpha male, Bp Pat, and may well stand his ground. He will not like other bummers getting in his way.

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I am surprised he hasn’t already followed the well-trodden route before now, i.e., sabbatical or further studies, but Covid-19 has probably prevented this course of action. However, I think it will take a great deal of time and effort to defag that big Army hummer.

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11.03pm

Why hasn’t Osman been moved on after 25 years? Clergy see terrified of upsetting him!! When you say grace and favour do you mean the rectory isn’t owned by the diocese and was Coove the Smooths gift to give? Osman seems untouchable – more like a lord of the manor, 19th Century Squire, elitist, snobbish, Latin Massist, with a very short fuse and easily rattled!! Seems to despise the modern world and is in grip of severe nostalgia- like Jacob Rhys Mogg, a creature from another century.
He holidayed with Coove didn’t he and clearly has enjoyed a level of protection since then – he is a Leeds priest isn’t he but couldn’t stand the bishop (name escapes me) as I’m sure the bishop couldn’t stand him. Is Osman loaded? He comes from the landed gentry doesn’t he? If he was friend with Coove he’d know who’s closet is closed and whose a Friend of Dorothy – being a very friendly with Dorothy himself!! He and Langham must have either got on like a house on fire or loathed each other like two bitter old queens!! I should know I’m a bitter old queen myself – meow!!!

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Catriona Reed and Ruth Richardson -- Obstacles and barriers - Barriers and obstaclessays:

Many found Ruthless obstacles and Catastrophic barriers which simply could not be overcome….
However, the focus of this report will be on….

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This is a serious question but won’t sound it!
Is there still the mechanism for a wealthy man to be ordained on his own patrimony? If the idle rich want religion that would seem the natural thing to do.
The last I know of was Ronnie Knox.

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That privilege also applied to Mgr Alfred Gilbey, who was Cambridge Chaplain from 1933 – 66. He decamped to the Travellers’ Club because he refused to admit women, whom he would sending packing to the local parish. You either find this endearingly eccentric or utterly appalling. Getting ordained under your own patrimony is long gone, but might be interesting to know when.

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Wasn’t there a Monsignor Gilbey of the gin family who lived in the Travellers’ Club London on his own patronage and income ? I think he died in the 1990s sometime. Walked around in a cassock and Roman hat.

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The poster who keeps telling us to write to Sarah with our complaints will have to find someone else to write now….

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@ 1.19pm And we are very satisfied that Archbishop Roche will take his place. What a marvellous appointment that will be and, in a short time, an excellent addiction to the College of Cardinals. It is not often we have such good news.

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Cardinal Comastri also resigned as Francis VG for Vatican City State and his successor was named.

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3.37
You sound like someone who is deliberately exaggerating Father Roche’s chances of promotion in the hope that a myriad of detractors will demolish him here. In common parlance, you are taking the p…s.

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Fatty Roche was never in a parish. He’s another useless, ambitious desk priest.

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@4.16pm I have already found someone to address complaints other than Sarah. It is Archbishop Gallagher who always replies and assures me that he will relay my concerns to the relevant Congregation. So people please send any complaints to Archbishop Gallagher. He is a very courteous and pleasant man to correspond with. Palazzo Apostolico Vaticano, Citta del Vaticano 00120
I am afraid Sarah never once replied.

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12.47pm
Let’s not forget Gilby of Gilbys Gin money!!
Money my dear boy doesn’t just make the world go round its what makes the church go round – money, money, money must be funny in a rich priests purse!!
How many priests/bishops are millionaires?
It’s not the smell of the sheep it’s the smell of the money that wins ya friends, plum parish (clerical term) and life long patronage!! Show me the Money!!

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Elected for 6 years in 2017.
Case gone to Rome in 2021.
Terms as abbot expires in 2023.
Case comes up for hearing in Rome 2024. Case dismissed due to Abbot no longer being in position and having returned to Roscrea.
This is the beauty of the monastic system. Imagine if Bishops served 6 year terms and then they reverted to priestly ministry (assuming they actually ministered as opposed to having just done done paperwork).

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The only thing that would derail that would be it depends on someone else being electable as abbot. I doubt there will be someone in the Melleray community looking at recent pictures on their Facebook.

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There has been a lot of discussion on the Purcell issue in every Cistercian monastery in Ireland. I have an insider contact.

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Dom Purcell’s friend, Fr John Hyancath Walsh OP, currently prior of St Saviours Dominican priory Dublin (also the studium) was overheard commenting on the Dom Dick scandal. He admitted that he (Dom Dick) did have problems with it (lack of chastity) in the past, but he though he had gotten over it. They had been in Oxford at the same time: walsh op in the English studium, Blackfriars: Dom Dick at st Benets Hall (EBC). Dom Dicks sexual activities were well known among catholic student circles in Oxford.

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They are not limited to Melleray in their choices. Other men may suit the role better.

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I’m sure Pat will confirm this, but my recollection is that, well into the 1980s, it was possible to enroll in Waterford as an independent sem for the English mission without being sponsored by any diocese or order when they joined and then they were picked up by an English-speaking diocese abroad in their second year. They just applied directly to St John’s College, Waterford, which took them in as unaligned first-years.

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It’s the same with Henley on Thames parish – another plum parish – Tony Wilcox lapped up the lifestyle and mate of Boris thing – bezzy of Elsie – with all that boat on the Thames shite, member of this or that club and without me where would the VEC be – to its new incumbent a Johnson Fund (loads of money) trustee or secretary aka mate of Tony Wilcox (retired now thankfully – shortest fuse in Christendom but so funny when riled – steam out of ears – such fun!!£ I’d love a Blog just on rich, pretentious and seemingly loaded clergy – it would be a hoot!! It’s not about the second ya see – it’s all about the money and the power!!

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The boat club thing will have been the Leander Club. In addition Wilcox is a mate of Mark Jabale, past\ Abbot of Belmont and Bishop of Menevia, and big in to the rowing and boating on the Thames fraternity. Wilcox retired a few years ago and has settled in Henley, I believe beneficiary of the largesse of some very wealthy Catholic family down there that he cultivated. It’s not what you know, it’s who you know……

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I am a Priest of over 20 years in Salford Diocese with good contacts in Lancaster where I regularly supply. I hear that Bishop Swarbrick of Lancaster Diocese is now getting very tired with the constant flow of letters and emails to his office and home about Rev Etienne, Administrator in Blackpool. I hear the main issues are:
1. General attitude towards others, considers himself high and mighty and talks down to people.
2. The re-naming of his Parish website to ‘Catholics in South Blackpool’ that deliberately did not include Our Lady
Of The Assumption’s Church, also in South Blackpool. This has caused locals to be very upset.
3. His general conduct towards females – openly verbalises that their only place in the Church is to clean it.
4. His wearing of black vestments and beretta during Mass.
5. He is determined to move the altar at St John Vianney’s away from facing the people so he can fully focus on the Latin Mass. The cost is going to be many thousands.
6. The nature of his relationship with Fr Robert Billing, ex-Bishop’s bag carrier and their alleged constant bitching about Parishioners and Clergy.
7. Acting outside the scope of his authority by planning to close down St Cuth’s Church despite the Bishop asking local Clergy to make recommendations about the future of the Deanery (related – why on earth can’t the Bishop just make his mind up? Asking Clergy which buildings are to go is like asking Turkeys to vote for Christmas).
8. He is now banned from 2 Primary Schools in his Parish after being aggressive towards staff, pupils and parents. The Schools now call on other clergy to minister.
9. His constant reminders to Parishioners around how to donate money and Mass stipends.
10. He has decided to breach COVID regulations by reinstating public Devotions when only Holy Mass is allowed.
11. His general lack of compassion and severe lack of communication skills.
12. His phoney Oxford accent that he uses to talk down to people.
I understand the Priests will never be everyone’s cup of tea, but never in my years have I heard about anyone behaving as badly or being the subject of so many complaints.
Questions must be asked about his suitability for office and wider questions regarding any red flags that were raised at the seminaries he attended.
Let’s hope for everyone’s sake the this young Priest is moved on to be under the guidance of an older and wiser Pastor as soon as possible. All he needs is some guidance and support. He is far too young, inexperienced and immature to be heading up 4 Parishes. I don’t really blame him – the Bishop has totally ignored the situation and must be held accountable.
I hear that he reads this blog, so pray for this young man and his Bishop. An intervention now will reap benefits in years to come.

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I have heard of a priest who was this dysfunctional in the past. There was a cluster of parishes in Birmingham archdiocese in the eighties/nineties. The PP of one of them sounded very similar indeed and the asylum seekers from that PP went to surrounding parishes and his parish attracted anyone who wanted back to the people and the prayers for Russia.

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Fr G. While it is tedious to continually read about clerical bitching on this blog, yours is an exception. It seems an objective factual account of legitimate concerns and you can be congratulated for raising them without the tedious vicious rancour so often seen here.

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God help anyone who’s sent to the dump that is Blackpool the more they moan about the priest the less sympathy anyone can have for them. The crime of the Oxford accent and the biretta which they can’t spell properly but they know they don’t like it

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There’s been sufficient concern expressed about Etienne over the last year or so that there really is something wrong with the boy, and it is the duty of the bishop to address the problem. Not to do so will just see things get worse. So, Bishop Swarbrick, on your bike please, and off to Blackpool to sort out this young upstart pup !

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Such a poor attempt at pretending to be a priest (or Priest, as you curiously type it). You can’t spell biretta and you randomly put words in upper case.
Admit it, you’re Mrs.

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It doesn’t matter what Pat is blogging about the tired attack on Fr Etienne reappears. Maybe he is rude I don’t know but today’s listing of supposed faults is laughable are we supposed to all agree and say yes he should be excommunicated immediately ? The supposed Salford priest recommends he goes away to be tutored by a wise old Parish Priest and after a few more years he will be a new man like an episode of Bless Me Father! The reality is there isn’t a sunny Second Spring round the corner for the Church in seedy Blackpool, those parishes, their primary schools and the families are not producing any vocations to the priesthood, the buildings will close and the schools will close too

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Father G for a priest being ordained in 2000 or there about your blog at 2.06 is really in parts wrong or maybe it is how Bishop Arnold administers his dioceses. .
2. a group of parishes now gets called a cluster so it would be the South Blackpool cluster.
7. a bishop now consults the deanery and the laity over parish closures. (maybe you should read canon law)
9. every parish priest should be asking people if they can afford it to help the parish and in some cases the dioceses.
10. Blackpool Council and the Police would close him if he breached the regulations.
12. sad to pick on his voice.
Blackpool needs to close many parishes as it the holiday makers that kept most open.
The big problem here really is a bishop that is not doing his duty to ALL (clergy and lay faithful).
A gossiping bishop fed up with contact about Father Etienne, firstly it is his duty to support Father Etienne and the parishes. (where is the dean sleeping)
And I can assure you by a VG the bishop does not see a problem rather a victimisation of one of his priest so either you or i have been misinformed and my information comes from the dioceses.
Canon Dewhurst at the Sacred heart is not in good health so there will be big changes in Blackpool.
I think Annie Arnold is the worse bishop in the episcopate and sincerely hope he is not moved to Westminster

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What has Bishop John Arnold got to with Blackpool ? He is he Bishop of Salford. Blackpool is in the diocese of Lancaster whose Bishop is Bishop Swarbrick.
Other than that you have made some good points.

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Sorry to hear that Canon Bob is not in good health. Please do not let Boy Etienne anywhere near Sacred Heart.
Bob and previous PPs have been humble and hard-working. Canon Ned (RIP); and the Jesuits, including Fr Denis and Fr Ron (RIP).

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The only bad or dubious behaviour that vexes a bishop is chid abuse allegations and that at a push – other that devil do they care – clerical motto is – hear no evil, say no evil, do no evil – Fr Etienne, oh he doesn’t have a nervous breakdown, a psychiatric would have a field day, with transference, repressed memories and attachment issues alone, will go from strength to strength – ye mark my words!!

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4.05: With such unintelligent gobbledygook I wouldn’t let you near my sick cat! She’d be killed off…you ain’t a psychiatrist or psychologist with that stupid drivel. Isn’t it interesting that pseudo-comic psychiatrists, like you, can rubbish Fr. Etienne, whom you judge simply by this blogs’ nastiness to him. I’m certain, like most others, you don’t know him personally! Try your crap psychiatry on yourself while looking in a mirror. Then take your pills.

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When I was a (lay) student in Maynooth Dom Richard was still at roscrea. Another (gay) student told me Dom Richard was riding (his words) a local farmer who was renting farm land from the monastery. I honestly thought it was the gossipy ranting of a gay man and there was no way a cistercian would do that. Sadly it seems I misjudged….

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When Dame Sadie was in Oxford, I heard that Henry Wansbrough, the master at the time, would have no idea where he was and neither would the saintly Dom Magnus Wilson, who was prior of Farnborough. These monks only need a free rein and can’t hold themselves in at all.

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I take it now that the story about Dom Richard has gone so far, the local media in Waterford and South Tipperary, even North Cork which is not a million miles away from Mount Melleray, and the Sunday tabloids will be giving the story wall to wall coverage, maybe not tomorrow but certainly the Sunday after. I will put in my order for the papers tomorrow when getting this weeks papers.

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TRY IT for Lent
Fast from hurting words and say kind words.
Fast from sadness and be filled with gratitude.
Fast from anger and be filled with patience.
Fast from pessimism and be filled with hope.
Fast from your worries and trust in God.
Fast from complaining and contemplate simplicity.
Fast from pressures and be prayerful.
Fast from your bitterness and fill your heart with joy.
Fast from selfishness and be compassionate to others.
Fast from your grudges and be reconciled.
Fast from words and be silent so you can listen”.

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Fast from holding the clergy to account and see what they get up to when the cat’s away 😀

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Fast from hurting words = Fast from holding clergy to account.
Fast from sadness and be filled with gratitude = Stop complaining you were abused and don’t cause a scene.
Fast from anger and be filled with patience = If you’re hurting from abuse be quiet an don’t talk about the abuse to anybody.
Fast from your worries and trust in God = Be quiet, people are beginning to listen to your complaints of abuse.

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6.42: Have you been rattled about your state of mind and heart by the reflective and chlenging poster at 5.19? The reflection and change is very apt for all of us as human beings and as Followers of Christ. I suspect you are not a Christian! You twist very cynically a beautiful reflection to make it something it Isn’t. How miraculous! Now, perhaps you might read it again and let it mean exactly what it says. Or, have you difficulty understanding plain English? Whatever the reason for your silly confusions, you are imbecilic and infantile. GOD BLESS YOU….You are assuming the prayer came from a cleric – aren’t you???😁😂😋😃😂😁.

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4.30pm

First of all, commiserations and every sympathy for your sick cat? Does your little pussy have a name? If you let me have your pussy’s name I’ll pray for her!!
Given, we can agree, that you don’t know me personally how you can possibly know whether I am professionally conversant or not with repressed memory, attachment issues or transference or indeed trauma of one kind or another.
If you read (carefully) Fr Gs concerns it doesn’t take a psychiatrist to decipher that Fr Etienne has ‘issues’ and his behaviour falls under the category of dysfunctional and concerning – may I humbly suggest that stress may well be at play too!!!
Finally, may I take this opportunity to thank you – the vitriol and contempt of your messsge gave me a little rush/nay frisson of excitement on a cold and bleak Saturday afternoon, to think that my contribution to the discussion about Fr Etienne rattled you so that it bought out the repressed keyboard warrior in you!!
I hope you feel a lot better and every best wish for your sick cat!!

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+Pat. I have been a follower of your blog for a long time now. I rarely contribute, instead I prefer to read all about it. That Fr Etienne from Blackpool needs help and requires some sort of intervention from his Ordinary. He has been mentioned on this blog numerous times and things appear to be getting worse. I think a letter from you to his Bishop (Google says it is Paul Swarbrick) would be in order to pass on the issues that have been documented on here, along with a reminder of his pastoral obligations towards this young Priest. Sounds to me that he needs taken out of that Parish and put under the direction of an experienced and more mature man. I just viewed his Parish website and wonder how anyone of such a young age is allowed to run so many Parishes. Things will only get worse otherwise unless these matters are dealt with. Being banned from 2 Primary Schools is particularly shocking. He is clearly out of his depth and the boy needs help. Please ask all your followers to pray for him as well. Sincerely, I am your sister in Christ.

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6.28: Patricia, your comments, kindly and caringly expressed stand in stark contrast to the nasty, mocking and condemning tone if others. Obviously, this priest needs guidance from a more experienced priest and his Bishop should speak with him. This young priest has much to learn and hopefully he will mature more discerningly and wisely. This will not happen thriugh dissecting him to pieces as is being done and encouraged on this blog. I have no doubt that all who are sniping at him would not have the kindness of heart or courage to approach him and give “wise” advice with charity. Your asking for prayers for him is very gracious of you. Your attitude of mind and geart is exactly the approach which Jesus enjoined upon us. Thank you.

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4.53pm
Thanks for the little snippet about Wilcox – or Captain Wilcox with all that Leander Club bollox – Henley on Thames and the largesse of a well heeled family sounds about right – years of careful cultivation and inveigling and obsequiousness on his part I’m sure!! Good luck to him – he’s a great advert for the priesthood isn’t he – join the priesthood and you too could enjoy the good life and retire on a rich widows purse!! Nice!!

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Oooohhh, I’ve loads more from where that came from ! Wilcox was always somewhat gilded in Birmingham, which of course is only a provincial and diminished version of what it means to be gilded in Westminster, but he has done well nonetheless on his networking and connections, and ended up for his last 20 years or so in one of the nicest part of the archdiocese amongst the well heeled and convivial. Yes, he was big in to the VEC trustees’ stuff (good excuse for trips to Rome and Palazzola ! where I have to say he and others did a good job in putting the places on some firm financial and managerial footing), and as part of the Johnson Fund in Birmingham Archdiocese. Do remember that not every priest gets the JF grant. You have to be accepted and approved. Trusteeship of the JF is an advantageous and influential position among the clergy. Best to keep in with them. Also, the JF grant is a grant, and therefore tax exempt, so it does not figure in your income tax calculations. Nice work if you can get it !

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Wilcox (Rt Rev Monsignor !) has retired to a very nice retirement complex of apartments, the smallest of which will sell for about £500,000 and the plushest ones there for well over a £ million. I’d say he’s probably in one in the upper third of that price range. Very pleasant, very just him, very nice. As someone has said before, it’s not what you know, it’s who you know that counts ! I know an old priest who was told to go and talk to social services about getting a housing association flat and to apply for Universal Credit, and that after almost 50 years of hard slog ministry. I bet he wished he had Wilcox’s connections and resources.

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May I take this opportunity to thank Bishop Pat in providing such a great platform – I don’t know anywhere in the Catholic Church where an open discussion is possible and Bishop Pat kindly affords the gift of anonymity and disrcretion – if bishops atound the world took his lead by offering the same platform – the truth no matter how revolting would set everyone free and wouldn’t that be wonderful – I salute you Bishop Pat!!

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5.39: Sorry, I rattled you: From the content of this comnent you may have experienced or are presently experiencing the symptoms you repeat. If you are burdened with these conditions, surely you should be more aware of the effects which public scrutiny by others would have on you! There is no vitriol in my 4.30 comment. Don”t you think it’s disgusting to use this forum to tear apart someone who may have personal, psychological issues? Don’t you think it’s morally reprehensible to continually subject any named person to scorn and judgment and be a focus for amusement? Irrespective of Fr. Etienne’s traits, he does not deserve the scrutiny of nasty jeerers or pseudo psychologists! And I still wouldn’t allow you to treat Magna Carta, the name of my cat!! 😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣😁🤣🤣

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6.20pm
Darling, I’m not remotely rattled – on the contrary – remember I thanked you that little rush – I’m glad you meant no vitriol mind you, if your message wasn’t vitriolic, I’d hate to be on the receiving end when you are – mind you, I’d probably enjoy that too – I learnt many many rears ago, sticks and stones, may break my bones but words will never hurt me!!
I disagree completely and wholeheartedly – Fr Etienne is a public figure – we live in a free and democratic society and bad behaviour should be called out, challenged, lampooned, ridiculed and if necessary the culprit put in the stocks and pelted with rotten fruit and vegetables – trust me, it would do him the world of good!!
Naming your pussy after a Medieval Document is sure to make him sick – have you thought about changing your poor pussys name!!

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Breaking news
Pope Frankie has accepted the resignation of Cardinal Sarah who turned 75 today. He leaves his post immediately after volunteering to stay on. Politics at play there.

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@7.33 FAKE NEWS. Cardinal Sarah was 75 last year, the middle of last year, or to be exact June 15th. He offered is resignation then, it was accepted 8 months later. Nothing to see here just move along please.

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Cardinal Marc Ouellet was 75 7 days before cardinal Sarah yet his has not been accepted yet.
It is true to say Pope Francis and Cardinal Sarah did not see eye to eye on the teachings.
Hopefully Nichols is next.

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@ 3.37 I found your comment cynical and therefore dismissed it. Archbishop Arthur will be elevated before long; trust me. He is an excellent replacement for the conservative Sarah. Roche has a penchant for what I call ‘poetic liturgy’. Apologies for my misplaced word, ‘addiction’. Dear, oh dear. I merely meant addition, far less laced (Arthur Roche does not like lace) than addiction.

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The dialect where Father Etienne came from is incomprehensible and he doesn’t have a “regional average” to fall back on, so leeway should be given in regard to whatever version of “received” he might pick for speaking.

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6.55pm

OMG, OMG. Are fecking kidding me! That is a horror story – fair play to the from for posting that summary of his experience of Captain Wilcox – how I’m no psychiatrist but that’s either severe personality disorder or bi-polar – deserving of mercy, compassion, treatment, but he should not be let lose on the public – God I feel for the bride and totally admire the groom for speaking out – a total fecking disgrace, he should be ashamed, I’m ashamed, how can this happen, how can he get away with this!! I hate him!!

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HRH The Duke of Edinburgh is no longer with us. RIP. To be announced at 10pm tonight. Operation Forth Bridge has commenced.

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RIP is a prayer used only by Catholics since Purgatory is a Catholic doctrine. Anglicans don’t believe in Purgatory so the prayer is meaningless for them. Therefore your breaking news is not to be trusted.

9:00

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Is it correct to research that Purcell and Adm of pro Cathedral are friendly? Timelines match… hmnn…

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10 54: Absolutely not…They’re in different leagues completely. The suggestion is comedic and laughable.. OMG!!

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