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TRIAL OVER ABUSE IN VATICAN SEMINARY CONTINUES.

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Vatican abuse trial: Witnesses say allegations about youth seminary were ignored

By Hannah Brockhaus CATHOLIC NEWS AGENCY

Vatican City, Feb 25, 2021 / 08:00 am MT (CNA).- Witnesses at the fifth hearing in a trial for alleged abuse and cover-up at a Vatican youth seminary testified on Wednesday to an unhealthy culture of ridicule and abuse of power.rial

The witnesses also alleged that reports of sexual abuse were ignored or dismissed by authority figures, including the cardinal in charge of St. Peter’s Basilica. 

Three former students at the Pius X pre-seminary testified before the city state’s court on Feb. 24 that the environment was “unhealthy,” indicating that taunts of a sexual nature were common and that they had witnessed one of the accused grope the genitals of other students.

The three witnesses also alleged that reports of abuse were known by Cardinal Angelo Comastri, the archpriest of St. Peter’s Basilica, who dismissed them as “false and calumny.” It was reported in the course of the hearing that Comastri may have blocked the removal of the pre-seminary’s then rector, one of the defendants.

Comastri

Located inside Vatican City State, the Pius X pre-seminary is a residence for about a dozen boys aged 12 to 18 who serve at papal Masses and other liturgies in St. Peter’s Basilica and are considering the priesthood.

The pre-seminary is run by a religious group, the Opera Don Folci, which is overseen by the Diocese of Como in northern Italy. 

The defendants in the trial are 28-year-old Fr. Gabriele Martinelli, a former student at the pre-seminary, and 72-year-old Fr. Enrico Radice, the seminary’s former rector

Martinelli

Martinelli has been charged with using violence and his position of authority to commit sexual abuse against a younger student. Radice has been charged with impeding investigations into the abuse allegations against Martinelli.

Martinelli has defended his innocence of the charges, calling the accusations against him “unfounded” and intended to “strike” at the pre-seminary.

Radice has maintained that he was never told about abuse by Martinelli by anyone, and has accused the alleged victim and another alleged witness of making up the story for “economic interests.”

Martinelli, who was not a cleric at the time of the alleged abuse, was ordained a priest for the Diocese of Como in 2017.

The alleged victim, identified as L.G., was born in 1993 and was 13 at the time the alleged abuse began, turning 18 about a year before it ended.


In testimony on Feb. 24, witnesses said that Martinelli was “protected” by the ex-rector and given roles of responsibility, bypassing even two other seminary faculty who were priests.

“The rector had allowed Martinelli to feel he was already a priest from the beginning,” according to one witness, who left the pre-seminary after a month, due to what he called “an exhausting experience” because of an environment of gossip and taunts about one’s physical appearance or “effeminate behaviors.”

The three witnesses said that they did not have direct knowledge of sexual abuse against L.G. as described in the charges, but testified that they had seen Martinelli engage in inappropriate behaviors such as sexual advances and momentary genital touching of boys other than the alleged victim L.G.

The Pius X pre-seminary was described by the former students as an environment with “psychological pressures,” where it was common to hear “homosexual jokes” and other lewd comments. Martinelli was described as having a “dominant role, very strong,” and a “homosexual demeanor.”

L.G. was described by one witness as “extremely credible,” but a bit delicate because of a difficult family situation.

One witness testified that Martinelli and L.G. seemed to hate each other and never speak, but that Martinelli also gave L.G. and another student special favors, positing that Martinelli was motivated by fear of what they could reveal about him. This other former student was also scheduled to testify on Feb. 24 but did not present himself at the hearing.

One witness recalled having seen Martinelli touch the genitals of another student, “like an implicit request for sexual intercourse.” This student refused the advance and afterward “fell out of favor” with Martinelli. He became “marginalized” and was psychologically pressured to leave the pre-seminary, which he eventually did.

This alleged victim was also scheduled to testify in the Feb. 24 hearing, but had been excused by the court for an unidentified reason.

All three witnesses spoke about knowledge on the part of superiors about inappropriate behaviors. One said that he was “very sure” that the seminary authorities were informed of the abuse accusations, that “Radice knew but did nothing,” and that attempts at making complaints to him fell on deaf ears.

One witness also claimed to have sent an anonymous letter to Pope Francis two years after leaving the pre-seminary about what he had seen there and stated that L.G. had once asked him to deliver a letter to the pope for him, which he did not do because he “didn’t feel like it and there was no opportunity.”

Fr. Pierre Paul, a priest and the director of the Capella Giulia, a choir of St. Peter’s Basilica, testified on Feb. 24, saying that L.G. had confided in him.

FATHER PIERRE PAUL WITH FRANCIS

“He never explicitly told me what was wrong but it was understood that they were problems of the affective-sexual sphere,” Paul said.

Paul made a report to the Commission for the Protection of Minors, part of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, in 2017. He said Wednesday that he had wanted to make a report earlier but had been stopped by L.G.

Thursday morning, the court of the Vatican City State’s again convened for the questioning of the Bishop Oscar Cantoni of Como, who was installed in the diocese in 2016 and ordained Martinelli a priest in 2017.

Cantoni

Bishop Diego Coletti, the bishop emeritus of Como who led the diocese from 2006 to 2016, presented a medical note to be excused from questioning and was not present.

Coletti

Cantoni testified on Feb. 25 that before ordaining Martinelli to the priesthood, he had spoken with the rector of the Pius X pre-seminary and the rector of the Pontifical French Seminary in Rome, which Martinelli attended for his priestly studies.
Both, according to Cantoni, had told him that Martinelli “had made a positive path” and was ready for ordination.

“All the people I had asked for an opinion on Martinelli, who had had anything to do with him after the [transitional] diaconate,” said there had been nothing wrong in his behavior, Cantoni said.


Cantoni admitted to there having been, between September 2006 and June 2012, signals from priests speaking about “sexually inappropriate conduct” on Martinelli’s part. But he said these accusations dated back to before Martinelli was a cleric and therefore were outside the existing norms for sexual abuse of a minor by clergy.

“Since he has been in Como, first as a deacon and then as a priest, there has not been a report. It was a transitory homosexual tendency linked to adolescence,” the bishop said.

Bishop Cantoni also added that since becoming a priest, no one has ever issued a complaint to him about Martinelli.

It was revealed in the course of the hearing that there had been some question about whose jurisdiction the Pius X pre-seminary fell under, since it is located on Vatican property, but managed by the Opera Don Folci, which is located in the Diocese of Como.

Cantoni said he asked for clarification on this question from Cardinal Comastri, who said he was not responsible as archpriest of St. Peter’s Basilica and vicar general for the Vatican City State.

The bishop said that since “we lived in ambiguity,” he asked Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican secretary of state, who said that “there was no pact between the Vatican and Como.”

“I was able to clarify that the ultimate responsibility lies with the Diocese of Como,” Cantoni said.

The Diocese of Como is currently investigating the Opera Don Folci, focusing primarily on economic and pedagogical matters. The investigation has been suspended during the COVID-19 pandemic.

L.G., the alleged victim, will take the witness stand at the next hearing, scheduled for March 17. On March 18, the court will inspect the pre-seminary.


Another hearing date has been set for April 14.

PAT SAYS:

We can see from these matters that the “rot” is well and truly established in the Vatican.

Homosexuality, ephebophilia and paedophilia are all alive and well in tge Vatican.

The MUCCA SASSINA club in Rome is the haunt of many priests, religious and bishops.

PAT’S SERMON – SECOND SUNDAY OF LENT

https://www.podbean.com/ea/pb-uw5fa-fc1fb8

114 replies on “TRIAL OVER ABUSE IN VATICAN SEMINARY CONTINUES.”

And is this primarily homosexuality or is it abusive sexual behaviour exhibited in an unnatural all-male partially closed environment? I think there is a considerable difference.

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Sometimes it is very easy for people to point the finger; sadly, sometimes people point their finger for the wrong reasons.
Everything we do must be considererate and not just for the benefit of ourselves but for others, too.
We shouldn’t judge without first looking at all the facts – always look at the whole picture!
“Do not judge, or you yourself will be judged…” x
Matthew 7: 1

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Pat how is this news lol.
It’s very clear that this poisonous atmosphere is engendered everywhere by the church, including among some commenters here.

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The Diocese of Opera even has norms for abusing minors in other enclaves! Which skirt niftily round bad power dynamics on the bad logic that those are “protected” affective characteristics. So desperate is it to bolster the mindset within its club.

“Don” Folci began “ecclesial studies” after he turned ten, founded some “Handmaids of Jesus Crucified” and crept up to Pius XII by invoking the name of Pius X. The shirking prelates should have been subpoenaed and the witnesses thus far absent should be given witness protection.

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On another matter: Are many of us aware that there is likely to be a new English translation of the Lectionary for use at Mass ? I’m not au fait with all the details, but neither am I very clear how this has crept up without me noticing it, given that I do take an interest in these things. I hear that one particular difference is the ditching of gender inclusive language in the new edition ? More than that, however, there does seem to be a quiet manipulative arrogance in the E&W episcopal conference to move this on and through without very much consultation or information. I guess they work on the basis that they know best, and they have the authority, and they know it all. One thing they should have realised by now is that we largely don’t think they do, judging by their lamentable and scandalous management and collusion in so much that is wrong with the Church and the clerical culture over the last decades. So, I really don’t appreciate them foisting something on me that I have not really been told about or consulted about. Who do they think they are to treat us like this ?

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You are right yo be concerned about this.

I still use the Vatican 11 missal and the lectionary and have not adopted the changes made by Benedict & Co.

It’s all an attempt to roll back the Vatican 11 liturgical innovations.

Is Arthur Roach aka Cockroach, not involved in all of this?

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Yes, + Pat, I am pretty sure that he will be at the centre of it, as he was in the changes to the missal. These people do think a lot of themselves. It’s all based on that ontological change at ordination, instant wisdom they think they get, which makes them unaccountable. I’m getting fed up with the monarchical autocratic clericalised Church. I don’t want to be a Presbyterian, but there is something to be said for accountability and congregational oversight.

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Like you I have no desire to be a Presbyterian. But we do need rebalancing when it comes to governance.

Mind you, here on the North, I have heard some horror stories about bullying elders and vestry committees.

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Clerical Fart@10:16am

Are you for real complaining about yet another edition of the Lectionary .. Just look at what was foisted on us for five decades, read Sacrosanctum Concilium The Council’s document on the Liturgy, and you’ll see what has been foisted on us. That will truly make you fart..

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10.28: Are you a Catholic Priest? If so, you seem unhappy about many things re: theology and liturgy…You criticise much. But – aren’t you a paid up member of said Church??? If so unhappy, find a freer congregation…if not presbyterianism, go to the Oratory, where anything seems to go – whatever floats your boat!!!

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At The Oratory we do not abuse children or cover up abuse.

Maybe that makes us unCatholic? 🙄

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11.07: My point is that since you are a free agent, independent of the Catholic church and create your own beliefs, teachings and theology, more people should consider joining you, so that they can create a stronger, more powerful witness to true gospel change and renewal. I am challenged every day to be renewed in my ministry. It is a daily decision that I have to make and engage with dedication in my ministry. All of us condemn any and every abuse. Unreservedly. You are not Catholic in any way, Pat, not since you defected but you took much of Catholicism with you.

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I notice in articles today that Gardai are investigating incidents of abuse at Terenure College by former teachers, lay and clerical. Awful criminal behaviour. I remember at my school in the late 60’s, early 70’s encountering some cruel and bullying teachers that terrorised us and left scars, emotionally and mentally. All layvstaff, sadly. I hope all victims/survivors fund justice. I’m never sure if my abuse and that of others affected us in relationships or finding inner contentment in life. I often feel the abuse and that by a neighbour left scars…

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@ 12:19 pm – He wasn’t slung out, he’s still living there! And he’s still serving the community as a Catholic priest; only now he is a concercrated Catholic Bishop and therefore can ordain.
You are doing a brilliant job, Your Grace! x

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And about time the Gardai investigated incidents of abuse in Terenure College.
Every diocese in Ireland needs to be investigated.

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Pat. Please take this photograph down. It is highly inappropriate and has brought this blog to a new low. You should know better and you are better than this.

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He doesn’t “know better”, Jardine and he isn’t “better than this”. It’s exactly his level.

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12.12
What better way to represent an ex-Nazi, and a protector of his kiddie-fiddling priests?

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12:30pm
Don’t judge everyone as yourself Polly you lowlfe. If Patsy has any decency he will take that picture down, and it’s a pity we can’t have you put down..

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At 12.58, you have ‘Polly’ on the brain, Bella. I’m worried about you.

That was not ‘Polly’ at 12.30, nor at 11.54.

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11:47, you have a very sick mind. I suspect you have mental health issues. I will pray for you this evening

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12.42
You have just committed a grave heresy, Bella. But I’m confident that the pope will grant you a fool’s pardon.

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1.17
And yet you read it and post on it.
I suppose it’s just for research, isn’t it?😕

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You sick twisted pervert. May God forgive you. Use the rest of the Holy Season of Lent to repent. Bishop Pat – how can you say Mass today knowing that you allowed this post?

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@ 1:59
When are the hierarchy and their priests going to repent for putting themselves, power, money and reputation (now shot) before the gospel ? Why was Christs warning about harming children,little ones, ignored, while, thou art peter so exhaled? Why are survivors traumatized,ignored and lied to by bishops when they come forward to report abuse?
Ratizinger claimed there was no forgiveness without justice. More f******* rhetoric.
Walking contradictions, the lot of you!
No wonder bonking by priests is no problem at any clerical rank.
But shush, say nothing, don’t let on to the laity. What they don’t know won’t hurt them.
Right bishop!

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Poor Gänswein spent some time in hospital with kidney stones or some such. His immune system must have been affected by the repercussions of having had his duties reassigned about a year ago. Seems to have put a stop to his cough.

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Be nice, Today is his first Sunday as Parish Priest of Wandsworth. His predecessor is ‘on sabbatical with bail conditions’. You heard it here first!

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1.10: Pat, that picture of Pope Benedict is a crossing of boundaries. It reveals your utter contempt, disrespect and hatred of the Church and Pope Benedict. You should, as a matter of principle, remove it. This kind of ugliness, sneering and ridicule has no place in the heart of a Christian. Utterly despicable. But then, it’s your way of life, isn’t it, you smarmy, ugly racist and hater..!!!

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@1:32 pm
But child rape, covering up child rape as well as abuse of vulnerable adults, while protecting child rapists has a place in the heart of a Christian? Utterly corrupt and criminal!

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Whow…..what a disgrace to print such a picture of Pope Benedict. Total disrespect. An elderly man does not deserve this ridiculing. Pat: this is your trailer trash moment. Nithing New, sadly. You preached at the beginning of in Lent asking others to live “in Christ”. You ugly hypocrite. Refind CHRIST for your heart.

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Odious Benny isn’t just an old man; he’s an ex-Nazi and a protectotor of kiddie-fiddling priests worldwide, especially that daddy of all priest-perverts, Maciel.
Benny protected kiddie-fiddling priests when he was prefect of the CDF. And he did it for bloody decades!
The bastardo!

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Why was there any question about Martinelli’s suitability for RC priesthood? Seems to me that he was perfectly suited to it…if the allegations against him are true.
Where else would he go, a sexual deviant, bully, and moral coward who wants to serve the Lord?

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1.18: You ignorant brat. You certainly are NOT OF CHRIST. You are a pathetic specimen. A hater, a crusher of people, an ugly person in every way. Pope Benedict is undeserving of this mockery. I somehow guess you are imagining a younger man in this outfit for your own perversions. What horrible ugliness has invaded your psyche. Nasty.

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2.43: Total lies. What respect do you really have for gay people? You actually incite homophobia. You are just a nasty, bitchy queen. A hatemonger. LENT means nothing to you, absolutely nothing….

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Enda’s funeral was a bit tacky. They put a Mayo flag on his coffin. They used to put brevaries on priests’ coffins. Archbishop Neary was chief celebrant (NB not the clericalist “presider”.)
The Troll Doll performed at the 27 minute mark.
https://youtu.be/aAAFAQ6Azio

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I don’t believe Enda’s breviary was on the coffin. There was a statue of Our Lady of Knock, a chalice and paten, a stole and the Mayo flag.

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Enda, being of the antique disposition, had as much interest in the GAA as the man on the moon.

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As Enda didn’t say Mass often, I doubt he was a great man for the liturgy of the hours.

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Every priest’s funeral is tacky. Then again, they’re burying moral tack, so what else could his funeral be?

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It’s curious but I don’t remember the same outrage being expressed at the images of one of your priests desecrating and altar in a Catholic Church.

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It’s curious but I don’t remember the same outrage being expressed at the images of one of your priests desecrating and altar in a Catholic Church.

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3.02pm You have two different names QB and then irc & 3.04pm. Just shows what a liar and fraud you are.

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I have no problem with having two different names – the system allows it. Here’s a third one for you. And just what is fraudulent or lying about what I posted. X

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I’m very shocked at that picture of the Pope Emeritus. In the holy season of lent it should be purple not green.

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The blog is very funny today.
To the people shocked over the picture of Ratzinger – behold how the world outside sees your church. And thanks for admitting you think the pope is divine!
Does anyone have the picture of a bunch of clergy wearing plastic see through macs over their vestments with the Durex logo in the corner?

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Why do people not understand that this is not an RC blog and the fetishising of these little men is not part of Pat’s religion?
Oh dear what an unfortunate choice of words. I could bite my own tongue out. 🤣

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4.04
Absolutely right.
That is indeed how the world sees these men … as utterly useless, dangerous to kids, and as sick objects of ridicule.
Bring back the Spanish republicans of the 1930s; they knew how to deal with these parasites on the people.

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4:04pm
Polly you still going on about the communist republican murderers. I’d much rather bring back Torqumada he’d know how to deal with parasites like you Evviva!

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4:18
Inciter to hatred. Yet you wished to join the august company. Your actions speak louder than your depraved words.

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4.04, 4.07, 408, 4.18 – Clearly all the same sad person. Please try to be a bit more original in future.

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5.57

Whaddamatter? Scared that your citadel of untruths about the Church is crumbling like Jericho’s walls?😂

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Wojtyla, as well as Ratzinger, could have prevented thousands of lives being ruined, in some cases deliberately ruined in order to protect the clerical caste/cast. Instead, these men put their institution, the ontological fraternity, power, money, status and reputation before children and vulnerable adults, lives deemed of lesser value than clerical rapists: a perversion of the gospel. If these people and their employees were/are willing to cover-up such crime, what else is covered up? Liberal, moderate or conservative means f*** all!
Toxic bunch, if ever.

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Haven’t laughed as much in a long time. Do you think I might be able to pick up a manikini like that in Gammarelli.

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Nothing like a spoon to stir a cuppaT. The Bennie Borat pic is not in the best o taste. Semenaries do tend to attract some alternative characters both students and staff. There is no excuse for wrongdoing hi

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Alternative characters both students and staff is putting it mildly. The tea served in semenaries must be laced with some religious potion which drives these characters bonkers.

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No worries.
Alf-one cold shower a dei-Cullinan has the vital solution to change the Rcc negative culture.
A youth ministry officer plus a lay evangelist. Sorted. Those cold showers paid off.
By the way, here’s Alf’s response to the mother and baby homes investigation.
He’s a man who claims we should never be afraid of the truth.
https://www.waterfordlismore.ie/statement-from-bishop-cullinan-on-the-commission-of-investigation-into-mother-and-baby-homes/
Nighty nite babies!

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It’s been a good day on the blog. All the Cathbots and priests have been floundering like beached whales, while their former lord and master, the odious ex-Nazi and protector of kiddie-fiddling priests, has been made to look exactly as he behaved…RIDICULOUS.
Aye. It’s been a good day on the blog.😊

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