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KILLALOE, MONAHAN, PREGNANT PRIESTS AND WOUNDED SEMINARIANS.

The Jerry Carey conviction and scandal this week gave us a brief look at the dark underbelly of the Diocese of Killaloe currently being “ruled” by Fintan “Lugs” Monahan.

This weekend many of Killaloe’s clergy are further disheartened by the mess that Monahan made of the Carey case and are throwing their hands up in disbelief and frustration at Monahan’s incompetence and stupidity.

One of those clergy informed the Blog that Monahan was informed of Carey’s crime by a third party within days of it happening?

If so, Carey should have been stood aside IMMEDIATELY from both parish and Colaiste Muire and gave been designated c/o bishops house.

The move to Nenagh and the adoption of the “Mr” title, was to my mind, an effort by Lugs, Carey and solicitors to fly below the radar in the hope that Carey could walk back into parish and school with reputation intact.

That plan failed as a result of the principled Killaloo priest calling me and my publication of a strong blog.

I believe that Lugs tried it on and failed abysmally and now looks like the Tosser he is by nature.

Will he face the people of Jerry Carey’s parish – even by internet and tell them what happened?

Will Colaiste Muire write to the parents telling them what happened?

They tell there are other serious secrets in the Killaloe cupboard:

– the serious hurting of two seminarians who were paid off?

– a woman made pregnant by a priest – a pregnancy that ended with an English abortion paid for by the priest – in spite of Monahan’s words?

And what else?

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136 replies on “KILLALOE, MONAHAN, PREGNANT PRIESTS AND WOUNDED SEMINARIANS.”

How long after Monahan’s knowledge of Carey’s self-ministration was said pervert made to stand down from all his duties?

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Historically (well 5 years about) you posted about other clergy in Killaloe. Are they linked to the abortion mentioned today? I know of one Killaloe priest who raped a lay student in Maynooth, before being ordained. Too many rumours of his many women… no smoke without fire.

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Killaloe has surpassed Armagh in terms of clergy caught with their pants down and the horrors of the Fetus Termination.

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Did Fintan’s paying off the two seminarians comply with the Charites Act. Did Fintan declare the payment to the Diocesan Auditor. So many unanswered questions.

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Two serious hurtings plus a termination? It sounds like Bp Monahan should gird his loins for future blogs. Near future, I hope.
Concerned OAP.

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7.01: No doubt, OAP, you won’t forget your Mass on the Webcam or your morning
prayers or your Rosary…I hope you truly open YOUR heart to God for mercy….you can place yourself safely at the foot of the cross begging for mercy and for all who need God’s mercy…Remember, we are all flawed in some way and do not live the fullness of CHRIST. Oh.. to be so pure and perfect!!:

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7:01

Well said Concerned OAP.

If more priests prayed the Office of the Hours, the Rosary, lived lives of integrity,
opened their hearts to God , there might not be so much bullshittery,
corruption covering up and bishops needing to gird their loins.

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@10:10am If you actually knew your scripture instead of being wrapped up in your faux spirituality while eager to slam the lid down on yet more clerical misdemeanor, you would be aware that being Christ like also means going into temples with whips and challenging abuse.
Today’s post is the perfect example of what happens when people follow your advice.

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The words are synonymous and therefore interchangeable. We who are pro choice don’t mean different things by them. You yourself make a difference.
Fool.

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12.56
Not synonymous. Every abortion is a termination but ever termination is not an abortion.

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11.39: Awwww….aaawwww…..poor thing. Pity you don’t know the Gospel of CHRIST…try reading it but more importantly – practise it….plonker.

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Not in this case, like all cathbots you have been caught out trying to make a point about an abortion and then bring an irrelevancy in to the said abortion when caught out. I have made a donation to a charity providing contraception and abortion in Africa in your honour.

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@ 10:55 am
Of course they can address past wrongs, but won’t.
They WILL NOT behave in a CHRISTLIKE, compassionate and honorable manner,
preferring to lie, re-traumatize, give people the run around, while spending
a fortune on solicitors and legal fees. These people seem incapable of taking
their responsibilities,duties of care and accountability seriously.

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4.18: You made the very same comnent befire when challenged about abortion – KILLING OF THE UNBORN – and you promised to make a contribution to Africa.. You must be broke, you silly piece of crap..You’re a sham and a fraud.

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I have little doubt that Monahan is an incompetent twat. To be honest, my experience is that by and large most clergy and bishops are given responsibility for things that they have little or no ability to carry out, both because of their lacking the qualities to do so, and because they are not trained properly and professionally to do those things. The result is them stumbling from one incompetent and failed decision to another. In days past, they could get away with this because of the myth of their ontological difference and elevated status, because people believed in the innate goodness of the Church, and because they could waffle their way through it because of our misplaced deference. No longer, and we now can see what a bunch of incompetents they are. You only need to look at the way your parish priest runs your parish to know that, by and large, they are functionally incompetent and not fit for purpose. I note that recently a COO of a diocese has resigned, after only three years in post. I know something of this man, who has highly successful business experience in his CV, and wanted to be of service to his Church. I believe that after three years he has pulled up stumps in frustration, recognising that the sensible and sane management that he could see the Church here needed was simply not being taken seriously. He has wasn’t being taken seriously. Why ? Because he’s not a priest with all that ontological, sacramental instant wisdom nonsense that the ordained believe they have ! Monahan is not the only cleric out of his depth, and not the only cleric who leaves a trail of destruction and failure in his path. And if Monahan did know about Carey and his antics earlier than he is saying and did nothing, then he will have contravened pretty much every accepted responsible norm of safeguarding and responsibility. If that is the case, he should go !

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11.44

Indeed it is. And it is so.

Further confirmation of my case that Romanist priesthood is an entirely human construct and must go before it does any more and greater harm to the Church.

Stop donating to these parasites.

You know it makes sense.

(And indeed it does so, so it does.😕)

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Fintan Monaghan through his in action to remove Fr X from his position has colluded indirectly to empowering this Priest to force the young lady to have the abortion in the UK.

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9.24: I think you are over using the concept of “ontological” change in explaining why it is that some clerics are not good at administration, delegating or engage with full consultation with parishioners. It is of course wrong to deliberately block out people who are very gifted, talented, competent and creative in our parishes. St. Paul’s letter about the many different gifts and my fervent belief in the dignity and giftedness of all baptised people has guided my approach to ministry. I am annoyed by clergy who fail to recognise the many gifted people in parish communities. Now more than ever we MUST reaffirm the dignity of all people and allow parishioners own their parishes. Yes, we priests have a unique spiritual and pastoral role, one which gives us the opportunity to animate people gathered around the Eucharist. I have never been bothered by words like “ontological”…It is not easy to have to continually readjust your vision, theology and ministry in the present climate of society. However, it is an absolute imperative that we priests always ensure the building up of the local Christian community, not alone (doomed for failure), but with acknowledging the gifted, prayerful, creative and competent people among us. I also believe in delegating res of administration and finances to those who have a business background. We gave of course to be wuse and discerning as often there are personality clashes and some people can own their given roles too much to the detriment of unity, goodwill and harmony. God help us all these days….

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But, Father, I bet you remain ‘in charge’ and you have the final say, even though you know little about the things over which you have been given authority. When push comes to shove, no matter how enabling of the laity you are, you will have the final say. Why ? What gives you the right to be in that position ? Ordination, the bishop, and everything to do with the clerical state and culture. That can’t be right. Surely ? If you are serious about the Church being of the People of God, then give them room to move and flourish, including the ministerial priesthood and positions of decision making and authority – and I include married men, women, and a whole diversity of people who have equal standing in God’s eyes.

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12.44: Sorry to burst your prejudiced and biased bubble narrative. I was a secondary school teacher before I was a priest: perhaps that helped shape my ministry approach. I have plenty of experience in administration. No, I do not have the first of the last word on any decision. We discuss all issues together as a Pastoral Parish Council and Finance Committee. I see my role – YES – my role as animator, initiator and encourager. Tigether we work for the common good. I know what my pastoral appointment means. I take my responsibilities seriously. Our parish under my care is as inclusive as is possible. Your cynicism, born out of misinformation and predictable narratives, loved by haters, will not deter me in any way from doing what I’ve outlined. If you have difficulty in believing me or all others who have a similar mindset, that, sir, is your petty little problem. I suspect you are the type that talk but do nothing, criticise but sit behind their laptops…Ah, yes indeed…your type are legion!!!

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2.37
You can’t see it, can you, priest? The self-focus and self-promotion in your very own post, intended as a counter-blast to another commenter?
You may have experience from the secular, world of work, but the vast majority of priests do not. And yet, they do have final arbitration in their parishes, regardless of how utterly useless and incompetent they actually are. And they, priest, are indeed legion.
I couldn’t help noticing how often in your post you expressed the First Person Singular: nine times altogether. You value your opinion very highly indeed, don’t you, priest? And above all others? I can’t imagine that too many in your parish council are able to get a word in edgeways, such is your self-preening volubility.

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You actually reinforce the point he is making: you take that approach because you can and therefore are still in charge.

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4.16

Indeed. And he lets slip as much in different words:

‘I see my role – YES – my role as animator, initiator and encouager.’ (You can imagine the second ‘my’ capitalised in his head.)

In other words, ‘he sees himself as being in charge’.

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@4:43 Let’s be fair to the geezer, though. He’s more qualified than the majority of his colleagues even if he does let his actual position slip.
Actually, a summer job calling bingo would make you more competent than most priests. 🤣

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At least Fintan offerd the two ex seminarians families access to professional counseling. The families hopefully can move on despite the difficulties in providing the adequate support structures for the recovery of the two ex seminarians. A tragic story.

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‘difficulties in providing adequate support structures’…

Unpack please, Fr.
What difficulties and structures ?

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I fear you present yourself as if you know what you are talking about. In truth, you do not. He might well be elevated to one of those positions. Remove all the aspersion, speculation, falsehood and plain nastiness you have read here and a man who might well be elevated is revealed. This, I say, is closer to the mark than, sir, your own fantasies.

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Did your very much deserved degree in education equip you to pronounce on Episcopal appointments as well.

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This morning I view the blog in complete horror and yes the Church needs this blog to highlight the very much wrongs of Bishops, priests and Clergy.
So I hope Bishop Pat prints this and it is in NO defence of any Bishop.
Bishops are so adrift from most parishes they do not have a clue and really Priest in2021 should not be running parishes that is what parish and diocesan councils are set up to do so maybe it is a control freak of a priest in most parishes.
Every dioceses has a Council of Priests so why are the Clergy not speaking out aww they are frightened well surely in Killaloe with around 98 clergy they are not all afraid and they all know there is also Archbishop Okolo.
So to the clergy on this blog continue to inform the blog but you should say to your Brother I am going to inform the Bishop and if not the papal Nuncio.
This full situation of Carey is shocking and was getting swept under the radar and Carey returning and in April Bishop Fintan going to Tuam.
You maybe shocked to know some clergy do not even know what is going on in the next deanery never mind the dioceses.
Pressure makes them act.
The School should be ashamed and so should the Bishop where was safeguarding and furthermore Bishop Fintan is going through the Canonical route however he has never said he has suspended him in public yet.

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The only thing missing from your masterly analysis is that by the time a priest gets to ordination he has already had his ability to say nothing well established. Hence the childish complaints on here that we should ignore abuse in the name of mercy and pay no attention to what anyone else is doing.

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Yeah.
They want the sins of the fathers visited on the next parish,school, diocese,etc. Daft.

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11.05

I admire your faith in the integrity of Romanist priests, especially since we all now know the moral sluge in which these parasites are immersed up to their necks.

Maybe you’re just a touch naive for your age and knowledge of the times.

Hmm?😕

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Richard Gibbons will get Tuam if he can deal with the financial repercussions of the pandemic in time. Michael Neary is 75 next month.

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Gibbins is certainly dancing for a mitre. Says all the right things. Does all the right things. Kisses all the right “a would you believe its”.😄

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Metropolitan See’s usually go to a serving Bishop.
So Bishop Kevin Doran is the favourite so far.
Then Elphin and Clonfert merged under Bishop Michael Duignan

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12:44
Jin S. at it again. Still can’t spell. Still making unfounded predictions.

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11.27: Fr. Ribbons us a man of integrity. Pat, why do you feel it necessary to “down” everyine? Fr. Gibbons would surpass you in ability, sincerity, honour, administrative skills, pastoral kindness and sensitivity and spirituality any day!! Get a grip, you nasty trouble maker.

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Gibbins has been noted by the nuncio but, as yet, is not on the list for the next round of episcopal appointments. You mention Doran continually and we know not why. Do you have a shred of evidence to support what you have said about him? The answer is surely, ‘No’, rendering your comment to be of little or no value.

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The reason Doran is being mentioned is due to proposed diocesan amalgamations in the west. This would see the archdiocese of Tuam & Kilalla, diocese of Galway, Kilmacduagh & Clonfert and finally the diocese of Elphin & Achonry. Effectively reducing six to three. With Fleming, Kelly & Neary retiring in the next 18 months, this will become a reality. Doran will succeed Neary on two grounds, firstly he is the oldest suffragan Bishop and would serve 6-7 years and this is required after Neary’s quarter of a century in the role. Secondly this would be a short appointment to allow for younger bishops like Monahan, Dempsey and Duignan to be assessed for suitability. Remember if Doran was appointed he would also be retiring the same time as O’Reilly and this would mean two metropolitan gigs up for grabs.

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Correct procedure is Jerry to be suspended on full pay pending investigation. Jerry entitled to confidentiality until investigation completed. Courts take precedence over investigation by Lugs or Dept of Ed. Jerry found guilty by court, no longer has Garda clearance gone from school and any dealings with vulnerable adults or children. If Lugs thought this was going under the radar he was mistaken, no way Jerry was getting Garda clearance which has to be renewed every two years. Does Lugs even know this?

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Forgot to say there is no way Ms Pounds would let Jerry on school premises if she was aware of the allegations. That would be gross misconduct which could lead to Ms Pounds dismissal and both her and the school being sued by parents. So if he was there it was because Jerry and Lugs failed to inform her of the allegations.

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No it doesn’t Pat, once she is permanent and pensionable, which I’m sure she is they can’t touch her.

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Thats all good in theory. I have seen clergy make teachers and principals lives unbearable.

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As have I Pat but not so much any more their power is in decline. If Lugs didn’t inform Ms Pound of Jerry’s infraction or if he pressurised her to allow him to continue as school chaplain he is on very thin ice, he could be joining the wounded healer in exile.

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No he lacks common since thinking the garden is always blooming.
This is another wake up call for Bishop Fintan

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Those two ex seminarians can never sleep with the light off at night. The suppressed memories of the abuse incident. Their cries and screams echo throughout the corridors of Maynooth and the cellar under Pugin Hall.

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I’m taking advantage of lent today whose 40 days doesn’t include Sundays. Im shocked re Killaloe Bishop. I think he knew based on the comments above but he kept it silent and under the radar. I don’t think he informed Ms pound immediately when he got the wind of Casey situation. He delayed it hoping for the best that it would all go away quietly. It backfired on him big time. It just gave us an impression that Bishop in question was dishonest perhaps bit devious. I have no desire to bash him cos it replicated it all over again re previous other bishops MO. Is that the same Bishop who has responsibility as regards to Purcell, correct me if I’m wrong there.

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My default position, DG, for any Romanist, especially a bishop, is that he is a man for whom lying is second nature.

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Surely, they must realise by now they can no longer hush up or even draw a veil over such scandals, or else they end up on Bp Pat’s blog. Not that I am complaining, I like a good priestly gay scandal.

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You have no desire idiot @12.17pm to bash him yet you are doing so. You couldn’t resist, could you?

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Mountjoy Prison is full of men guilty of committing sin.
Just so happens they are also guilty of committing criminal offenses.
Oh mercy mercy me…!

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The two allegedly “wounded” seminarians are getting on with their lives quite happily are they not? They have never sought justice. A lot of this is simply rumour. If what happened to them is true, then a crime has been committed and charges should be pressed against the perpetrator(s).

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1.56

‘…are they not?’ Three little words, in a tag question, that prove you don’t know what yer talkin’ ’bout.

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Why did Jerry drive to Galway to pound his penis in front of the general public? Is he an exhibionist? Is he gay or straight ?

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If he is an exhibitionist he could set up an only fans page Jerking off with Jerry.

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4.48
This is one of those exceedingly rare occasions in which virtual converse and obverse statements actually are similtaneously true:
JERKING THE JERRY and JERRY THE JERK

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You are very late this this question, which has been considered time and again on this blog. In fact, your question is spurious and indicative of a mind that is prurient.

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He either gets a kick out of doing it and has done it many times before without getting caught or it was a cry for help.

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The COO of Archdiocese of Birmingham lasted 3 years? Why did he leave after such a brief sojourn?
His salary was over £100,000 – big salaries in Archdiocese of Birmingham if in senior management – nice work if you can get it – did the COO jump or was he pushed? Is his leaving connected to handling of Quigley case and certain litigation? Whose replaced him and on what salary?
Lay managers aka fall guys/gals for clerical/episcopal failings – simples – always make sure you’ve got a lay person to blame said the safe.

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I can suggest an answer to that without knowing any facts of the case! A man with considerable management experience in the private sector would be rightly horrified at what happens in any church at all!

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Mmmm ? Nursey’s words about Brookes don’t sound effusive, do they ? I’d say Brookes probably did suggest a plan for the future, but Nursey and his clerical apparatchiks probably wouldn’t implement it, so in frustration and disappointment he’s gone. Clergy don’t like being told what they should do. They like telling other people what to do. I reckon the Archdiocese of Birmingham doesn’t really have much of a plan for anything. They just bumble along, muttering a few pious buzz words like evangelisation, mission, etc., but really have not much of a clue as to how they will do it or achieve it. They simply do not realise that their inaction and their blindness to what is happening around them results in people just drifting away. Over the last couple of decades this has been made up for by newcomers from abroad, so the pew have been somewhat filled. But, as time goes on that flow, both of laity and clergy, will cease, and they too will get fed up with their idiot priests and bishops and move off. The writing is on the wall for the RC Church in Ireland and the UK. So, I would suggest to Longley and others that they think seriously about what they are going to do, to think of a plan that is implementable and sensible, and drop all the pious guff which is really an excuse for doing nothing. I suspect, however, that all of this stuff just goes in to the “too difficult” folder on his desk !

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God bless Papa Francis in Iraq. What an inspiration to the world and a powerful symbol of peace in former Isis strongholds. A courageous man of faith reaching out to other minority Christians. He has done great things including teaching Buckley a lesson.

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To ignore his own teaching and always ensure a good photo opportunity to ensure the sheep keep giving to this circus.

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How much did the visit, in the midst of a pandemic, cost? I thought the notorious old hypocrite was obsessed about global warming yet he flys the globe in a chartered Alitalia jet.

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4.06: Don’t worry about the cost, you stupid begrudger and hater. You moron. The Muslim and Christian peoole of Iraq have no difficulty in financing the visit of a unique world leader. What a powerful witness Pope Francis gives to hope, unity and reconciliation. His trip has been a phenomenal success. Go piss on you cat, idiot.

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6.39
A unique world leader? Pope Francis?😕
You must be having a laugh. Frankie is the chief priest of the Church of Clerical Perverts.😅

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And helping to spread Covid among those who gathered to greet him. An irresponsible act for a world leader and a so called man of god.

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Masses with congregations aren’t allowed in the Free State by diktat of the Free State Government and in Ulster they are forbidden, thanks to a craven self-denying ordinance by Amy, who went further than what Stormont was seeking.

Yet here we have Francis and his vast entourage carrying the covid from and to Italy and Iraq, which have surely suffered enough already.

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Typical cathbot at 3:50, it sounds like it might be a pious statement but is actually a backhanded rebuke.

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@4.24pm Oh dear, what have things come to. Did you not like the comment? Bless you. All the faux covid concern is laughable just as the only excuse used to bash Pope Francis. Iraqi visit is totally historical. Just a pity he couldn’t travel north of the Irish border and the failed Unionist State that is called NI, says alot when Muslims roll out the red carpet for him instead.

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Former it may be but there were over 30 people killed by suicide bombs in January in one of the compounds where he landed. And the country is rife with strains of covid against which he’s not vaccinated. Hopefully you’ll be as brave in your mid 80s if peevishness doesn’t get you in the meantime.
Well said 5:51.

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8.08
Pope Francis was surrounded by more security than God is by cherubim snd seraphim. He was in no REAL danger.
And the country is rife with covid strains against which Francis is not vaccinated? You don’t mind shooting yourself in the foot, do you? If Francis isn’t vaccinated against them, nor, then, is most of Italy. Yet the old fraud doesn’t mind putting THEIR lives at risk by catching one of these strains and spreading it throughout Italy, and the rest of Europe, on his return.
Try thinking before you post.

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8.45
needn’t worry about waiting to see if he’s peevish before he’s 80. That horse has already bolted. If peevishness could talk it would self identify as MC.

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5.26pm

May the new COO of the Archdiocese of Birmingham prosper both himself and his episcopal masters – wishing him a long and successful tenure in such an exciting and dynamic organisation at the very heart of child abuse litigation, arse covering and the dark art of minimising reputational damage against a backdrop of overwhelming evidence of cover up, corruption and mismanagement.

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They’re all at it, Bp Pat, most of them who are able, the rest will just rely on gay porn, online or old dirty mags. They’ll keep the blog going for years. And thank goodness for that.
Concerned OAP.

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Yes, it’s an extraordinary read…for failing to spot the bleedin’ obvious: the Church is in crisis because of its clergy, principally the episcopate.
Get rid of these spongers and moochers, and the Church will no longer be crisis but at the dawn of a glorious new day.

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Simpering Lily Duignan of Clonfert is the hot tip for Tuam. Gay as Christmas more testosterone in a can of Red Bull!

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Crisis of Truth is a rehash of a book and gravy train Ralph Martin rolled out in the early 1989’s – he’s a product of US Charismatic Covenant Community- ie. high control, abuse of power, headship v submission shite, single for the Lord, elite clergy, cult like tendency – Ralph know all about crisis of truth he’s made a good living peddling it but doing nothing about it!! He will be thick as a thief with a number of high ranking US bishops who are mired knee deep in scandal he rages against – wouldn’t trust or touch Ralph ou US Charismatics with a barge pole!!

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11.02pm

I note that the link you provide immediately invites donations etc – I say follow the money – Ralph Martin and Charismatics like him left a trail of destruction with their emphasis on covenant community, headship and submission, especially wives submit to husbands and the baptism in the Holy Spirit as a new rite of initiation – covenant communities cover over dark under belly of high control/manipulating of people of good will and simple faith – Ralph Martin, George Weigel, Steve Clarke, Joe Difato, Benedict Groeschel etc do your own research it always leads to the money and manipulation with Right Wing Conservative Catholicism.

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