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NUNCIO ADAMS – UK – RECEIVED A 100 PAGE REPORT ABOUT WONERSH AND OTHER MATTERS AT END OF 2019.

The blog has learned the the nuncio to the UK, Archbishop Edward Adams, received a 100 page report into Wonersh seminary and other matters at the end of 2019.

The report came from a senior seminarian supported by a diocesan priest.

The report contains an allegation about a priest watching the seminarians showering in the communal showers area and saying to one: “No offence, but your hairy bum is not to my liking”!

The report also contains information on a diocesan bishop having a sexual relationship with a priest of his diocese.

The report is 100 pages long!

We do not know if the nuncio shared the report with Rome or any of the English bishops?

He describes Wonersh as:

“Its not only about being gay in Wonersh, but its also about being young and good looking. The more good-looking you are and the more willing you are to be involved in the gay culture, the more you are liked and looked after”.

Of course we have seen all this before with regard to Maynooth, the Irish College etc.

With regard the bishop and priest in question, the priest was spotted leaving the bishop’s quarters at 3 am on a number of occasions.

I am hoping to see a copy or summary of the 100-page report and will keep readers updated.

Did this 100-page report play a role in the decision to close Wonersh?

134 replies on “NUNCIO ADAMS – UK – RECEIVED A 100 PAGE REPORT ABOUT WONERSH AND OTHER MATTERS AT END OF 2019.”

I can’t imagine any of the bishops of England and Wales being in a same sex relationship. But then Cardinal Keith O’Brien surprised me too.

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Well, Keith was at least quite a fine looking man. But as to the rest of them in the entire British Isles … it really stretches credibility. I’m not, of course, referring to morality but sex appeal – or rather the lack of it. It was said by the bitches at Allen Hall that Mark O’Toole – for example – looked as it he had a fanny between his legs.

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He had more willing than unwilling partners, I am sure. Still, a dirty old hypocrite, though.

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I just looked through them and can’t picture any of them actually having sex. But then everyone is, must be, sexual in their own way. Perhaps the guiding criteria for choosing is how hard it is to imagine them actually being sexual?
Francis, I can, but definitely not Benedict lol.

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I don’t know. I could see the Archbishop of Southwark in a studied dog collar, chaps and DMs at the Vault in Vauxhall of a Friday night.

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All that stuff last night about the Nuncio and Glasgow is all a lot of speculative bullshit. Anyway when the time comes it will be Bp Hugh who will get the shout.

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10:37 pm
It is a great worry if rumour is spread on this blog. The appointment of an Archbishop of Glasgow is an important matter, deserving respectful commentary. The deliberate publication of misleading, often rude comment about this and other subjects is very regrettable and should cease immediately. Let is allow the Nuncio get on with his work, unimpeded by rancour, rumour and lies.

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Actually, Your Grace, it is a tiny matter of importance to only a small circle of clerical gossips. I really think you should have more important concerns than their gossip – did you read the report?

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Glasgow.
Archbishop Mario was transferred in six months and before it has taken up to Three years.
The announcement is expected in June with a transfer of a current Archbishop / Bishop to Glasgow and they would like a Archbishop in place for COP
After all the Archbishop is only three months dead
Motherwell is a concern giving sadly the failing eyesight of Bishop toal who really needs to resign due to ill health as everyone Clergy, religious and Lay faithful is annoyed at a Deacon being in control of a dioceses although not officially.

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I understand why the Nuncio would be sent a report like this – I mean who else could you turn to – but seriously Nuncios are chosen and trained to cover up and make sure the dirty washing never sees the light of day – I wish I had more confidence but I’m afraid I don’t,
I wonder which Bishop is having late night/early morning hook ups – whoever it is guaranteed to be vehemently anti gay and publicly into condemning homosexuals – that’s how they rumble!!
This will be fun to see unfold – the Magic Circle isn’t just a euphemism you know!!

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The Diplomatic Service is not trained for cover up so Papal Nuncio’s are trained to represent the Holy Father and have NO cover ups.
Sadly at times the wrong people are appointed of taken in by the Episcopal Conferences like Charlie Brown and now a worry Archbishop Okolo is going down the same route please God No.
The said Archbishop Edward Adams resignation was accepted very quick and Pope Francis has appointed a well and able new Papal Nuncio Claudio Gugerotti whom he knows personally and has met him twice since his appointment only last July sadly he has come into another badly run administration and his First Secretary has gone.
Archbishop Adams or who ever owns the document should have copied it to the Congregation of Education as they have responsibility for seminaries.
I am not that naive as to your other statement give proof to Papal Nuncios and the Bishops will be investigated and Pope Francis will laicise them he has done it before.

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Auld Gossip Alert@10:30am

Sadly, we have the expert on all Nuncio’s giving us her ill-informed knowledge, stating their are NO cover ups, now that’s a laugh. It makes you wonder were she’s been, probably too busy studying for the Diaconate in her own fantasy world. It’s all too sad.

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12.07
This post is worth looking at. The writer criticises ‘ill-informed knowledge.
Here are some examples from her post:
1. Plural of nuncio has a redundant apostrophe. So doesn’t know the difference between a plural and the possessive case.
2. Can’t differentiate between their and there. That’s ill-informed lack of knowledge.
3. “…wonder were she’s been.’ Doesn’t speak standard English if were and where are homonyms.
4. Gives diaconate a capital letter.
5. Omits capital letters where needed.
Is English your mother tongue? Must be the most egregious display of illiterate ignorance since the blog began.

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You’ve reminded me of Michael Voris arguing that same sex attracted men shouldn’t be admitted to seminary because it would be an occasion of sin for them if another seminarian was walking round with a towel round his middle. He was at pains to say that being thus clad was a perfectly normal thing that you would expect in any all-male environment. Very butch!

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1.48
Congregation of Clergy deals with Education Cardinal Giuseppe Versaldi is the prefect and does what it say Education
Congregation of Clergy deals with Clergy. Cardinal Stella is the prefect

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Bloody ‘ell, that’s explosive news and it’s horrible and upsetting.
I hope the whistleblower is being cared for and watched over! They will do ANYTHING to stop a whistleblower — if he is young or particularly vulnerable then he needs to be looked after! Yeah!
I have a feeling these issues are culminative with ongoing issues in other parts of the UK and Ireland, I have a feeling we are going to hear more about these various issues in a consolidated and wide-area report…
They are animals, they are wicked and evil animals.
Sorry for being pissed off, but that’s how I feel, Bishop Pat.

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Anyone know where E McNamara from Paisley is hiding? If Bishop JK is heading Clyde Street who will protect him?

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If you are meaning the very bold Evan… he seems to be back to full health and maintaining a very low profile. JK and his diocese refuse to comment on his whereabouts or his status.

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John Keenan would not comment on you Carluke 1584 or anyone else who’s like does not concern John Keenan or the dioceses of Paisley
As for Evan McNamara who is no longer a seminarian for Paisley Dioceses and if you are that concerned about seminarians contact Bishop Keenan or his Vocations Director who will inform you how many seminarians Paisley has.
All the lies about Even residing with bishop John were FALSE as Bishop John resided in a Parish house with a Parish Priest.

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Was Vincent Watters the Sem for Paisley ever ordained? I would be gobsmacked if he was.

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He probably just flicked through it and wondered what the fuss was about. It wasn’t as if anyone had read the report 🤣

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12.00
Never heard of Vincent Watters
However there has never been a Vincent Watters ordained in Scotland up till now.

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Who was that diocesan Bishop? It was quite shocking for me at first long ago but now it’s getting more common – is that correct?
What does it say about other bishops now in ad around uk/ireland that we don’t know of.

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Perhaps the fundraising was to install shower cubicles? I mean what were they thinking of? Communal showers in a seminary …

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A large part of this is about dodgy VDs or similar sponsors. Wise bishops rotate those types frequently.

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Why rotate as if true they should be moved OUT.
it is difficult now for a Bishop to move clergy as they is so few and some will not move and if you force the move they go on a sick sabbatical if they have a good doctor.
their union the Council of Priests stands by them in the Brotherhood against the Bishop.

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Ah, …St. John’s, Wankernish! Again! The Semanary that simply can’t stop, giving…and giving….and giving…! Come to me all you who labour….!!😅

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Our Lady of Good Success prophesied this would happen. The Church will be purified and become the spotless bride of Christ. Keep up the publicity Pat these poor wretches need to be exposed and brought to conversion!

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Our Lady will NEVER desert the Church.
The Bride of Christ will flourish once again sadly turbulent times have arrived by God willing it will be cleansed.
A lot will depend on the new Curia appointments.

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Finders find love for the evening… and keepers keep the love they’ve found…
Losers lose and wind up weeping…
But it’s the only game in town

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11:10 am

Jesus turned and said to them, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me; weep for yourselves and for your children.

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All hail the third string debutante
She tries to act so nonchalant
Chasin’ the prince of alibis…
Into a smokescreen made of lies…

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Psalmus 95 (96)
1 Canticum ipsi David quando domus aedificabatur post captivitatem Cantate Domino canticum novum cantate Domino omnis terra
2 Cantate Domino benedicite nomini eius adnuntiate diem de die salutare eius
3 Adnuntiate inter gentes gloriam eius in omnibus populis mirabilia eius
4 Quoniam magnus Dominus et laudabilis valde terribilis est super omnes deos
5 Quoniam omnes dii gentium daemonia at vero Dominus caelos fecit
6 Confessio et pulchritudo in conspectu eius sanctimonia et magnificentia in sanctificatione eius
7 Adferte Domino patriae gentium adferte Domino gloriam et honorem
8 Adferte Domino gloriam nomini eius tollite hostias et introite in atria eius
9 Adorate Dominum in atrio sancto eius commoveatur a facie eius universa terra
10 Dicite in gentibus quia Dominus regnavit etenim correxit orbem qui non movebitur iudicabit populos in aequitate
11 Laetentur caeli et exultet terra commoveatur mare et plenitudo eius
12 Gaudebunt campi et omnia quae in eis sunt tunc exultabunt omnia ligna silvarum
13 A facie Domini quia venit quoniam venit iudicare terram iudicabit orbem terrae in aequitate et populos in veritate sua

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8.00
It must be a great skills to copy and paste and most people will scroll past it however if it keeps you amused and relaxed that is excellent. 🙂
Tomorrow the Catholic Church Celebrates the Feast of Saint Joseph so practice this and join us.

In Paisley it is the anniversary of John Keenan Seven Years as Bishop of Paisley.
In Edinburgh it is the Third anniversary of Keith Patrick O’Brien RIP

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10:52am

Yes it’s a skill you have, you’re always at the copy and paste. I don’t think Kitty O’Brien will be resting in peace, not after her disgraceful demise.

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Archbishop Adams was on a final swan song last tour of duty before he retired, and I guess he would not really have wanted to bother with anything like this. Too busy making arrangements for his retirement in Florida or some warm and sunny place like that ! What is interesting about this Wonersh business is that pretty much all the English and Scottish seminaries seem to have a chequered history, and they all seem to be places of some considerable dysfunction, particularly in the areas of sexuality and human development. All of the shenanigans we hear about are indicators of something not really right in these places. I suspect, in great part, this has to do with the fact that most of the staff in those places don’t really know what they are doing and are simply not adequately trained in important areas. They just wing it, which is, I suppose, part of that wonderful clerical belief that they have ‘instant wisdom’ in all areas on account of their ordination. There is a big problem brewing with these places and it will come to a head soon enough. I would suggest that bishops begin to think seriously about what they should do, and intervene before matters run out of control. One thing that is clearly odd is the concentration of young men of a certain age, and many of certain dispositions and orientations, in one place, isolated, without ordinary and normal company including that of women, hothousing themselves, and being given a sense of self-importance and exclusivity – well, that is a recipe for disaster. The model itself is flawed and lends itself to strange and odd things happening and dysfunctional and stunted emotional, sexual, social and psychological development. And that is to say nothing about the lamentable academic standards that dominate in most of these seminaries. So, dear bishops, start with the model and change things – like inservice training, more community based training ? Have a look at what the Jesuits do with most of their training. It’s definitely an improvement on what happens in your seminaries.

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I note that the SJs in England have temporarily moved their novititiate to Oscott, taking over a wing to themselves and living separately from the main body of seminaries, while their own house elsewhere is renovated. It would be interesting to see how the two groups go about their business, side by side. It would be interesting to watch and contrast and compare. I think I know which model would come out best. Mind you, the SJs do tend to recruit quite mature and sane individuals, whereas the dioiceses seem to take a whole range of inadequate and questionable characters. I don’t think there will be much competition. Maybe the Oscott people will learn a few things while the SJs are there. I’m sure if you talk to the SJs they will be amazed at what goes on in the diocesan part of Oscott. Watch this space…..

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Absolutely. I suspect the seminary model would have been better with bigger numbers (albeit even younger than now) and before the sexual revolution.
Even housing the students elsewhere such as parishes etc and having them go to lectures or have zoom would be a start.

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I see the heretic Fr Schueller in Austria is heading for excommunication over blessing perverted same sex couples. Good. Disobedient clergy should be punished and not tolerated. Stop the rot and stop their pay and show them who’s Boss.

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All Hail Ye, all hail. Fr Schueller’s views are a refreshment to those who seek truth. All hail ye.

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Two factors about the CDF document are worth a thought:
1. The doccument was put together by a smaller group of officials than would normally be the case.
2. Timing. Why now? There’s been movement on this question in Germany with the heas of the German bishops’ conference expressing irritation at the release of the document.

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Excommunication has no effect. Ive had 23 years of glorious excommunication/freedom😁

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I visited Wonersh. I remember meeting a very sinister and weird student called Fred who stood outside the showers staring. A pervert for sure!

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According to Martels book In the Closet the Batican Diplomatic Corp is the epicentre of the gay mafia – concentrated in the Vatican but (by its v nature) spread all over the world – reporting homosexuals liaisons to a Nuncio is like reporting a theft from a tuck shop to Ronnie Biggs – in fact, I reckon a nuncio would see it less as a scandal to address and more as a hot tip and opportunity- just saying like.

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Yes wasn’t the French Nuncio partial to young waiters bottoms and convicted for having a sneaky touch, and Bruno Heim used to love visiting London cottages back in the day, and Polish born nuncio Wesolowski fond of the boys. The Pontifical Ecclesiastical Accademia is the Devil’s playground.

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Someone is pulling your chain Pat. Wonersh does not have communal showers. Someone is being economical with the truth.

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I have had plenty of comments from sems and priests about the communal showers there.

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When I started at Wonersh there were mostly communal showers on “Riley” with no privacy, plus a couple of “lockers” or what to call them where you could have some kind of privacy. (On White Chapel and Wallstreet if I remember the names right)
At the very end of 2017 or beginning of 2018 seminarians were only allowed to use the communal showers, the “lockers” were reserved for guests and staff only, plus half the seminary building became a prohibited zone for seminarians unless they had permision or invitation from staff.
Can Brian (rector back then) was the one putting up signs half over the place “No access for seminarians. Staff & guests only”, Mgr Ewening, vice rector back then, was the one that made the announcement about the showers.

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@5:24 You must know pervert Fred from Alaska? He loved watching sems in the shower

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Moss of Brum (although I’m sure he would dearly love to belong to a more stylish diocese if he could) – is presently in the Secretariat of State, I believe. Has he done the Pontificia Accademia Ecclesiastica course for the Vatican diplomats ? Is he hoping to be promoted to Nuncio and Archbishop at some stage. He always was a chap who thought a lot of himself, and his ambition is far reaching.

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Ah Moss was best pall of that creepy old Monsignor Bryan Chestle who was in the secretariat of state for a lifetime. Chestle used to lurk around the corridors of the VEC in a most unsavoury way. Moss was a decent fellow though, moderately attractive and squeaky clean.

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Vincent Brady was the local secretary. Has he been replaced ? He’d been there a long time. I expect he’ll head to some swish parish in Westminster. Or, maybe he has a pointy hat heading his way ? Must be a shit job stuck in that Nunciature shuffling bits of paper.

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Vincent Brady was replaced by a new Priest from Leeds.
Vincent Brady is in St. Luke’s Pinner

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https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/13958/pope-to-designate-knock-an-international-shrine

I guess they are looking for a way to bring in more business. But, really ?! Knock is the most God awful, dreary, wet and dank place there is. I don’t think it will be on too many tour itineraries. And, anyhow, all those Marian apparitions are more of the Catholic invented shite in order to squeeze money out of people. A bit like a Euro development plan for the region, sponsored by the Church. Why are people so gullible ?

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4:12pm

Actually I’ve never been to Knock, but I’m sure I would like the original Church but certainly not the horrible Basilica it’s horrendous just like you.

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The Jesuits at Oscott are wise to keep apart from the current faculty and student body. Wasn’t a member of the faculty removed for calling out the camp culture when Bishop Oakley was rector? A faculty member was turned down by the selection panel of his own diocese but his bishop ignored their recommendation and sent him to the VEC – where he camped it up and was certainly not chaste. I hope he is now continent.

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2.40
it was fake from Wee Jardine as Jardine is off the blog for Lent LOL.
Possibility Jardine is Jamie B
+ Cushley seen through him and his Divine Renovation.

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After ordination Paul Moss found his inner Dorothy and she came out to walk with him to see the Wizards in Rome – all gay paths lead to Rome and the Diplomatic Corp – ‘do ya know what I mean as Dearie’ as Bishop Kenny might say.

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I am surprised at Moss. There were certainly more than a few friends of Dorothy among his contemporaries at the VEC. He was always charming and liked by them, but managed to avoid becoming entangled. One of his contemporaries had a fling with a very handsome young priest at the Irish college whom he later dumped in a rather harsh way. He was a beautiful soul and I was saddened to read that he took his own life a few years ago.

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2.57pm

I’d be sorry and a little sad if this blog was for priests and not the laity – and is that right, the majority are priests/ex seminary- that’s a v small gene pool don’t you think – the views/opinions expressed here seem to me anyway from a broader church, a wider spectrum, a richer perspective, than just crusty old clerics and priggish virgins – God I hope it is as I’d hate to think that clergy and ex-seminarians is the constituency of this v fine platform.
What parent in their right mind would send their kids to a church run anything – to many sexual predators on the prowl like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour -the trial in the Vatican illustrates how the lion kills (has sex with) it’s prey – truly awful.

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2.57 and 3.36, my family were on the RC fringes and we were used to RC religion being flighty, unstable and vacuous. My times of enquiring into mere belief were mentally perilous, especially due to the prevalence of outsourcers and interlopers with unregulated standards. Laity is authoritatively not a “vocation” and so be it.

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3.36: What an ignorant comment. Simply ignorant and a LIE. In 43 years, having worked in 7 parishes and with many clergy, I never witnessed any abuse by any priest nor were there any abuse accusations levelled against any colleague. Yes, abuse is horrific and anyone who is a perpetrator, priests included, must be tried by civil courts. For you to make so offensive a judgment is hate inciting. You need to look beyond the narrative of this blog. Have you witnessed any abuse st your church – that’s if you are a church goer? With your lies and hatred, perhaps you might consider Confession! And, if you want to be shocked, read the statistics about children who are abused within their family. Maybe your eyes should be more vigilant….

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Perhaps you needed to have opened your eyes a bit more, then ?! I bet in all those 43 years you knew some that we up to no good, breaking their vows, living parallel lives, up to all sorts of strange behaviours. So, like all clergy with their eyes closed, you are part and parcel of what has been going on. You are complicit. Ignorance is no defence, when it was before your eyes, and you simply chose not to see it. We didn’t take that defence from the Germans after the War, neither should we accept it as an excuse from priests. And still, here you are saying everything is fine and priests are great guys. Get a life… !

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…Oh, and spare us the Elsie Nichols strap line about abuse being more prevalent in families than amongst clergy, as a convenient excuse the minimise what priests have done. You should be f**king ashamed of yourself for that.

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Fr Should have gone to Specsavers at 6:05. You would be better reflecting that the actions of your fellow clergy have a natural result which is that comment and you should beg God for forgiveness.

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At 6.05 p.m.
You are a sick disgrace. A 67 year old deranged nut job who has wasted your pathetic life on nothing. Now your only function is to haunt this blog, 24/7 and spread your filthy venom on people trying to expose the filthy, corrupt club you pledged allegiance to. The victims of your roman perverts are crying out for justice all over the world. You are an obstacle to them and you will pay the price eventually. Pat has opened this blog to everyone and not just twisted deniers like yourself. How he tolerates your sick trolling is beyond me. He has exposed your roman club for what it is and will continue to do so, until the whole stinking cult is no more.
Pat,as one who follows this blog and has done so for a while I’m astounded as to how you can allow this evil troll to comment here. You must surely know the damage he’s trying to do.
He’s is putting people off commenting and putting more stuff into the arena which will hasten the demise of Rome.

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Go easy on the old guy. After all it’s not easy looking back at the age of 70 and realising you’ve wasted your life. And not a single shag in that time. 🤣

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@3:36
Pat very kindly allows all kinds of views to be expressed here
However his stated aim of exposing hypocrisy and corruption in the RC church means the obvious candidates to subvert his aim are RCs and particularly professional ones. They don’t seem to be intelligent enough to see that the things which interest them reveal who they are. For example the next bishop of Glasgow is a matter of interest only to a small number of clergy and gossipy holy water hens.
The people who also have any motivation to hide the fact they comment here are priests.
So yes there is a hard rump of priests who are disingenuous – you can tell them by the bitchy clergy house attitude in their comments – but it is for everyone.
Oh, not forgetting Bella, a lay?man who has arrogated the functions of the old Holy Office to herself. 🤣

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J8hn at 7.54: Whow: What an outpouring of hate. My comment is 1000’s of miles apart from your hate invective, my comment being a response to someone who said they would never allow their child near anything run by the Church. Are you on drugs to have become so nasty, irrational, hateful and unbalanced? In respect of clerical abuse – as someone who was abused as a teenager by a neighbour, I know the horror of abuse and its after effects. So, I don’t need a lecture from you. I have always condemned in the strongest language all and every abuse by clerics. Unequivocally. I restate my experience again: in my 43 years I have never worked with an abusive priest nor was has priest I worked with (in 43 years) ever had an allegation against them for anything. My experience is not in any way a denial of the horrendous abuse by clerics, nor is it a condoning of any abuse of power, position or authority. Of course I’m aware of priests who have abused: of colleagues who have flaws, addictions and sinfulness, of priests who are bullies and who hurt – and I am very aware of my own need for God’s grace every day. As for haunting this blog. An exaggeration of course! How could you know? My God, John, how stupidly blind are you! This blog is haunted by offensive haters like you all too frequently. Finally, you should reread your own comment, slowly, thoughtfully and honestly and I’m certain you could not describe it in any way other than that it’s an ugly, abusive diatribe. But I won’t hold that against you. I have a kindness of heart and a readiness to forgive. Next time read comments more intelligently and restrain your propensity for hyperbole!

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Lol at 8:54 you have certainly absorbed the clerical tendency to make everything you say a criticism of someone else.

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6.36
The Clergy, religious and the people in the pews are interested in the next Archbishop of Glasgow so do not fool yourself.
You may see massive retirement if a certain Bishop gets transferred.
The Archdioceses needs a LEADER to get rid of the lazy and closeted Queens.
As for Bella thinks he is the prefect of the Holy Office however Bella is in the SSPX likely with you.

Also in Clyde Street there are many highly paid officials and are concerned for their jobs as they have cushy positions.

If you have been on this blog a while then you will know many are interested in Episcopal appointments and some of the useless bishops in post.

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1.58pm
Kieran Conry was a favourite of Bruno Heim -interesting that word on the street is Hiem liked visiting cottages – liked a neatly trimmed thatched I gather

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Auld Gossip Alert@9:22
The Clergy,religious and people in the pew are not interested in anything you say,as you’re just a GOSSIP. That was he word even Canon Polland used, you’re notorious. Who are you tonight, Mother Teresa, Jim S, Curate.PP, Paul,Football lad, etc. etc, sadly I’m sure even you can’t remember.

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If I’m not here, not there, not anywhere, then where o where am I?
Only those with an IQ of at least 150 can solve this riddle.
Are you clever enough?

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Probably. They wouldn’t let a well coiffed bit of eye candy(ish) go spare up in the frozen north, now would they ? It would be a terrible waste of clerical talent and style. Although, I would have thought Alex Ballsaplenty would be heading for some nice spot like that, although maybe they are holding him back for the new Archbishop of Westminster’s secretary, when Nichols finally walks the plank ? Of course, Alex enjoys Rome and might want to engineer a way of staying there. Wimbledon, West End, East End, north London, or Rome ? You choose !

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…. Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:11)

“Let not your hearts be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.”(John 14:1-2)

“If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. (John 14: 15-18)

“Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. (Matthew 7:21)

12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realm. (Ephesians 6:12)

So, because you are lukewarm–neither hot nor cold–I am about to spit you out of my mouth. (Revelation 3:16)

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Eli Eli lama sabachtani-My God My God why have you forsaken me? He had to experienced the FULL experience of man’s-separation from God.
He has been there on the cross.
He will rescue you if you call to him! He loves all of us no matter where we find love or orgasm! But never presume to deceive one of his little ones!! Millstones await!

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@ 8:24 pm

The ecstasy of loving orgasm being a foretaste or precursor of FULL
blissful Divine Union…i.e.The Beatific Vision….(Holy Being.)

Millstones are a completely different kettle of fish.

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8:24. A question for the millstone brigade to ponder: how deep is the Divine Ocean? 😲

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6.59: Haggard McAleese shoukd join forces with Pat in Larne and establish a Church purely for her missiin. She’s a total bore at this stage. This is the woman who, while in office, kissed every bishops hand and was wines and dined by various Parishes and Catholic groups. She knew than the Church’s teachings on sexual preferences and realities. It was only when her wee mommy’s boy came “out” that the rage began…I find her strident northern accent condescending and she now has a disdain for all male clerics that I hope she finds a Church of Ireland community who will satisfy her mission.

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I don’t know what the fuss is about seminarians and open showers. After all that’s what they’ll get in prison.

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I don’t know what the fuss is about seminarians and open showers. After all that’s what they’ll get in prison.

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Back to the showers. I was at a certain Scottish seminary in the 1980s for 2 years. Loved the showers. One particular seminarian has a fantastic body and a lovely cock. He loved soaping it up in full view of others. I dreamt of sleeping with him. I left because I couldn’t concentrate on my studies. Just googled him. Fat and baldy now lol.

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He wouldn’t have gone unnoticed by KOB by the likes of things. KOB would have been an attractive forty-two year old in 1980. Wicken man.

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You left and he got ordained. Big difference. Just as well you left as you sound like a total unsuitable pervy dickhead.

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Barriers and Obstacles - Obstacles and Barriers @ St. Anne Street Referrals. Posted by Hannah the dogsays:

Saint Anne Street Referrals – Barry is a barrier, while barriers are an obstacle to Barry…
Obstacles and barriers – barriers and obstacles!
– The signal-box is busy today, boys and girls, so we let’s see what happens in the dark dingy room of the Referral’s office at Saint Anne Street.
Green lights… Amber lights, and BIG FAT RED lights.
Have fun watching all the levers and controls being pulled in the back room at Referrals.
. https://youtu.be/eQto27ZFPS4

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HOW-Hi Fly

Begorra fly wee willie wonka gon wonkie
Holy Moses what in tar-nation is goin on at all at all
Blacken-in the lot while worshipin wee willie wonkee
Well whether wonka wee or wonkee
May The Force Be With Us+
Bye bye fly hi.

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9.04: What are most comments on this blog if not a rejection or dismissal of another person’s opinion? There is very little respect or tolerance of different view points on this blog. Your comment proves my observation.

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