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DID FR GER FITZGERALD SAY HIS “GOODBYE’S AT LAST THURSDAY’S MASS?

Here is the end of Fr Ger Fitzgerald’s Mass last Thursday where he thanks everyone and seemed to be saying his goodbye’s.

He did celebrate Mass in Sunday but it started 15 minutes late and while broadcast lives was not saved and put with all his previous Masses on the church Facebook page.

The word in that the bishop, Fintan Monahan had contacted him on Thursday and told him to come and see him the next day, Friday.

On Thursday he did indicate that there was to be a big change.

Last night he was still described on the diocesan site as a Co PP.

Fintan Monahan had said that the investigation into Ger would follow all the appropriate civil and ecclesiastical procedures.

Did Fintan Monahan know that Ger was saying Mass as usual on Sunday?

Why was there a 15 minute delay in the Sunday Mass happening?

Why is the recording of the Sunday Mass saved like all previous Masses?

So, the questions arising:

Fintan

1. Are Ger and Fintan Monahan involved in a standoff on the matter?

2. Is Ger resisting Fintan?

3. Is Fintan adraid to push Ger?

4. Has Fintan met either of the two ladies involved – Ms Drake or Ms Whelan?

125 replies on “DID FR GER FITZGERALD SAY HIS “GOODBYE’S AT LAST THURSDAY’S MASS?”

Pat Buckley, I strongly advise you to thread extremely carefully. What kind of person gets pleasure out of tearing a good honest and decent man down? Im beginning to wonder do you have a personal problem with Fr Ger,did he refuse you’re sexual advances and bruise your all too big ego…..?
You also have the audacity to bring a ladies name up with no permission to do so,you drag these people threw the mud hoping you will have company down there but Fr Ger and Tina Whelan will never be as low and as nasty as yourself and Yvonne Drake. Maybe you should try you’re luck with that piece of trash, i don’t even think someone like her would entertain you as you truly are a piece of filth. Pat go and read today’s gospel. Vermin Pat Buckley, that’s all you are.

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Pat, would there be any chance you’d construct a piece on the 3 times you say you met Satan?

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11:40 pm – “I strongly advise you to tread carefully…?” We strongly advise you to go elsewhere if you don’t like what is discussed on this blog, nobody is forcing you to come on here and read.
The priest has been playing two women parishioners, off, against each other; it’s reckless and disgraceful and not to mention damaging.
These issues need to be discussed in an open and healthy forum — and in open daylight — not behind closed doors in Roman Bishops’ offices. Very, very unhealthy business… I can tell you this from firsthand observations — observations I have no intentions of looking the “other way” from.
I have a keen eye for detail… everything has to be just so, so it does.
I digress, so I do. So let me get back on track, Charlie boy.
When people in positions of trust go round and cause unecessary distress within spiritual environments, where people can be hurt and damaged by such behaviours as these, then the priest and two-women will indeed be discussed and, as a matter of course.
Nobody is forcing you to read, you can always throw the kettle on x

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1.42
sadly it looks like the Bishops hands are tied he has two against one as Ger and Tina are standing united as one.
Canon Law will be on Ger’s side unless the Bishop can get more evidence.
However as a young Bishop he will not forget the publicity this has caused his dioceses in a time of pandemic.
There is two victims here Yvonne and the Bishop.
Ger’s fellow clergy and seminarians know what Ger is like and so does Willie Walsh

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I’m fed up of these priests who, like the old Cosmopolitan ad, want to be having it all.
Just like HM The Queen told Meghan and Harry Markle they have to be in or out, the Fr Ger’s and Rory’s of this world must learn that they cannot have an a la carte approach to priesthood.

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11.40
Of course Father Ger and Tina are not going to confess why should they.
Father Ger has told people he has trouble with his celibacy and he is a liar is he says otherwise.
Father Ger loves the title Father and the perks of being Father in an Oratory.
Ger is not even a team player in the dioceses of Killaloe.
Maybe the temptation of too much flesh in a parish would be overwhelming.
Ger and Tina may think they have won hands down but Ger has to live with the struggles and some day they will be too strong.
He should go now while young.

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Is Fr Ger having one of those awful male mid-life crises because he’s approaching the big 40?

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Hard to disagree with that analysis- “a piece of filth.” Perfect description of Buckley, disciple of Satan that he is.

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Buckley you’re a dirty evil cunt with feck all to be doing. Hi would you like it were it all over the Internet about you and the young rent boys you rode the holes of? That’s well known. You didn’t get hiv from saying too many aul prayers. You’re a dirty aul bastard. You probably fantasised over Ger when you took him for lunch when he was a student and were disappointed he didn’t swing your way. You’re a feckin pervert. Airing Ger’s “dirty laundry” on your vile gossip and scandal site. You’d have loved to sniff his “manly smells” wouldn’t ye ya scumbag?

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11:41, you’re here to complain that Pat is highlighting an accusation made by a third party. You disagree with airing ‘dirty laudry’, yet you make a number of accusations and falsehoods against Pat. Aren’t you doing the opposite of what you preach?

Oh and I’m curious – are you on the Aldi Prosecco or the Russian vodka?

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11:41pm
If you are an example of someone under Fr. Fitzgerald’s care, he clearly hasn’t done a good job. You could have shown your support for him without the disgusting language. You did not do Fr. Fitzgerald or Ennis any favours.

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9.11
Bishop Fintan needs to do a full Audit of the unhealth Oratory in Clougleigh.
However Ger will again refuse to move.
Ger is NOT a Social Worker he is a “Priest”

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9.11
Wanting people to ‘die roarin’ and hoping others will be ‘toast’ in Hell: I’d say that qualifies as disgusting language.
You’re a hypocrite.

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Your filthy remarks are well out of order and you should apologise to PB immediately. Some of your comments may be true but your language is intolerable. Calm down and clean up your act. PB needs to stop getting too personal against individuals.
Methinks there are too many pots calling each other burnt bottom. these comments come from all sides on this blog.
Garngad Lad

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The Fs and Jeff’s give much away Ruffled feathers. The thank yous also sounded a bit strange. Theres a damn good Netflix show in parts of the overall blog

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HOW-HI FLY

Begorra bejaney and holy mackerel hi…
A good Netflix show if even in parts means out comes the popcorn.
Was there a crime scene?
Who is the villain the hero the winners and the losers?
And where is the evidence if any ?
Anyways whether villains heroes winners or losers…
May The Force Be With Us.+

Have a good day fly hi.

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I find it strange why older Clerics like you see the need to wine and dine younger Seminarians like you did Ger. What was your motive I wonder, probably not an honourable one.

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Ger, as a seminarian, got in touch and asked to meet me. I was aware he was heterosexual. I never had any personal interest in him. One meal and a chat hardly amounts to wining and dining.

I have met many seminarians and priests and others like this.

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9.41: Why in the name of God would Fr. Ger want to sit at table with a treacherous fool? You have nothing worthwhile to offer him or to any priest. Jesus is our GUIDE, not a nasty, vindictive, vengeful person like you. Get real. Grow up.

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Oh we see how pure the defenders of Holy Mother Church and her perverted priests are in their use of vile language. They act by making threats that would make a mafia don blush. You would think that they would welcome a purge of these leaches – who by leading double lives are the ‘wolves in sheep’s clothing’ we are warned to beware of. + Pat is what he says is he and that’s why his honesty shames and rattles duplicitous clergy and their supporters.

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8.20
They are NOT defending Holy Mother Church they are an embarrassment to the Church.
Ger and Tina and their fan club.
That crew does not represent the Church.
by the blogs they need AA, Drugs Counselling and so on and that is not Ger’s job that’s Social Services.
Even Magna on the oil does not speak like that.

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8.20am: A silly, sycophantic comment about Pat Buckley! You are obviously easily led..There are, thank God, many, many wonderfully faithful priest who, day after day, serve their parishioners with extraordinary kindness. God bless all priests. Pat is a good person, like the many, many I speak of.

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Please remember that Jesus is the “Truth that will set us free”. Please disallow the use of “Jesus” to protect a commentator’s anonymity. In fact it would be better if you disallowed the use of real persons’ names other one’s own. I am using my real name as I am sincere in this request. Don’t facilitate the mockery of God. Even “independent” Catholics shouldn’t do that. Please know that I am not trying to make a point but just stating a fact that is as true as “the sun rises in the East.

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Mockery of God by use of the name Jesus?
In YOUR opinion.
Not everyone would agree with you. Can you handle that? Or do you insist that it’s YOUR way or no way?

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This is classic “shoot the messenger’ response from so many angry people, deflecting attention from those who are at the centre of this mess – Lugs and Ger – and their actions that have brought them to this place. Also, the women involved were engaged in a rather foul mouthed spat on social media, and so have opened themselves up to public scrutiny, and in many ways appear to have conducted themselves in such a way that they are not worthy of much consideration or respect. But, let us concentrate on the two clerical figures in this. Firstly Ger: He has nobody else to blame but himself for his troubles. He has broken his public vows of celibacy apparently numerous times, and engaged in lying and duplicity in that he has by his very life and position been telling us that he is celibate. Why should I trust him, or even have the slightest respect for him ? No doubt he is currently holed up somewhere licking his wounds and feeling very sorry for himself and very hard done by. It might be worthwhile for him to think about the harm he has done, not to himself so much, but to us, the Church, the credibility of his already much discredited clerical class etc. etc. As for Lugs: The man does seem a bit like a walking disaster area, and one does not have a sense that he is dealing with this matter in an expeditious and effective manner. The man would probably not have got past being a primary school deputy headteacher in any other life. So, it’s very disappointing all round, and difficult as it might be for the parties involved, I am very happy for + Pat to highlight this mess and the people involved in it, if only to show just what a disaster area the clergy and bishops are – as if we didn’t already know – and hopefully to disrupt this so much that somebody, somewhere, will realise that change is well past due. So, angry commentators – who will almost exclusively be comfortable clergy intent on protecting their own lives and privilege – get used to it, and perhaps have a go at the people who have caused this mess by their own failures and indulgence. They have been caught out. Tough for them !

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9.24am

The word, ‘Forgiveness’ seems to be absent from your vocabulary. We all need to find its truth in our own lives. I know I do.

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10:00
You are repeating concepts and ideas which went unchallenged more than half a century ago. Has your thinking not developed in the meantime? Intimacy is one of those things which make human beings human.

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Good morning,Bella.
Sound advice if a wee bit harsh. Did you serve Mass this morning?
There’s Mass from Mt. St. Alphonsus Church, Limerick on the box at the moment.

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9.24
I do not work for the Dioceses of Killaloe however you are totally wrong and that is a fact.
No Bishop wants this sort of issues on their desks and be assured of that as the paper work is horrendous in Canon Law.
But what we are seeing is incompetent Bishops who have retired or in later years leave horrendous situations for the new Bishop.
This is two in a month for Bishop Fintan and he will do it all in the Canonical route as he has no option but to do that and he will.
The horrible issue in this case for the Bishop is Ger and Tina are going to lie through the skin of their teeth that is normal for clergy who leads double lives.
However Tina will move on and Ger will be watched like a hawk the rest of his job as it is not a Priestly vocation.
A leopard never changes it’s spots.

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Good that you don’t work for any diocese.
The leopard proverb is not Christian. There is redemption. Always.
10.48

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Aul Willie Walsh was another “preaching to the gallery” ACP lib who should never have been made a bishop.

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In 2016, during the summer of perpetual love, Fr Fitzgerald said that St Patrick’s College had been wrongly portrayed as a “golden house of debauchery, sin and squalor”. Five years later there are allegations he is a two-timer!

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10:33am

Good morning, I just watched the live stream Mass from Sacred Heart Limerick. Mt. St Alphonsus wouldn’t be for me. It is indeed sound advice, and if Fr. Fitzgerald had followed it he wouldn’t be getting the harsh treatment he’s receiving today.

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Being the only straight resident in the college, Fr Ger would have had a very different Maynooth experience than his contemporaries, so he was probably telling the truth as far as he was concerned.

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AuldGossipAlert@11:35am
I think he’d be more suited to staying with your crowd Mother Inferior, after all everything with you is free of charge. Since you neither work nor want, you utter parasite. It wont be too long before the Compliance officers knock your door then you’ll be made to pay.

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The Compliance officers are here in Warbreck House (PIP) or Norbreck (UC) and see them every day.
Some have the cheek to come into the Sacred heart to pray.
The parasites pen pushers.

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Des Hillary had his fair share of annoyance and bad behavior from Michael Collins. As Des once put ‘The Mad Collins ‘.

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Auld Gossip Alert@12;32pm

The Administrators are not parasites they work for a living, processing the false clams of parasites like you. It’s only because of the back log they haven’t got to you yet. But it wont be long. Knock Knock.

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Knock Know on Heavens down for you.
If the parasites come near me again we will see them in the courts for harassment.
You better watch your pension bringing the department into disrepute could led to termination of full pension.
God Bless You.

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Auld Gossip Alert @12:27pm

Yes you will see them in court, the only words you’ll hear is “take her down” there will be no termination of my pension. But you will be terminated for good.Bye Bye

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Pat, what’s this mysterious sub-plot involving compliance officers in various DWP offices in the greater Blackpool area? Are Ger and his lady friend messaging each other in code this way?

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Worst case scenario. Ger had an affair with an adult woman. He is not the first priest to do this; but judging by the newer priests he may be the last (with a woman).

Historically the church might forgive a repentant priest and move on, like a forgiving wife. This is perfectly legitimate as an outcome.

Another historical outcome was the priest might leave the priesthood following contemplation, like Ger’s formator did.

Mature reflection needs time, space, privacy and calm. It does not need blogging.

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I think I agree with a lot of what you say, Holy Goat. A priest *may* have broken his vows of celibacy and chastity, things are in the open and decisions need to be made. He isn’t the first priest potentially to do this; any alleged partner isn’t the first person to have a relationship with a priest. The situation is sad for all concerned.
With ordinary believers, similar sadnesses occur. Through the Sacrament of Reconciliation, they receive appropriate pastoral care and guidance along with not a little mercy. If those involved in this situation are at fault, I hope they receive similar compassion, pastoral care and mercy.
My issue comes with the Church’s tone to the laity where some priests and certainly the Vatican hector and damage the laity by insisting aggressively on standards of ‘rectitude’ that are hard to achieve for anyone without much sign of compassion. I’ve sat through homilies on homosexuality, contraception and abortion where I’ve felt angry, less about the teaching than the Pharisaical tone and manner in which it is delivered. What damage is caused to a young teenager who thinks he’s gay and everyone is going to hate him? Or a woman who may have felt forced to end her pregnancy? Or a couple using contraception because they can’t have another child? Are they in receipt of compassion or the mercy of God? Or are their wounds reopened every time they listen to this sort of thing? The rather mixed messages now from Pope and the CDF don’t serve to help.
We are asked to feel compassion for situations like this priest and this woman are said to find themselves in. Do you know, I think we do. But somehow that compassion needs to be two way. The best priests know that with the wisdom of time and experience. Life is not straightforward.
A far healthier church would be one in which the challenge of living a good life was talked about in inclusive terms, and one which was acknowledged by all to be just as hard for priests as the people in the pews. Beautiful ideals were promoted alongside a healthy and realistic understanding that they are just that and all we can really hope to do is our best with the hand we are dealt. Above all, though Peter may have the keys to the kingdom, it does not mean that the Petrine Church has the right to decide for God who can or can’t be let in to be with God.
If that were the message and the experience of being a believer and going to Mass, I suspect this blog would be out of business as the attitude of all of us would be more healthy and we’d feel very different about pointing the finger as no one was pointing them from the altar at us.
My thoughts any way.

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I’m 53 and I’ve never heard a homily homilies on homosexuality, contraception and abortion, unfortunately. Priests just do banal “let us be nice” homilies devoid of doctrine that wouldn’t be out of place on Radio 4’s Thought for the Day.

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11.37
You must be with the Latin Brigade team as you will struggle to find any or us modernist, happy clappy people approach theses subjects.
I know parish that have had bishops letters to read out and some will not they print them off and leave them at the back for anyone that’s bothered.

The issue here is really about Honesty we have Ger and Tina saying Yvonne is a Liar and Yvonne saying it is them lying.

the big loser in the end will be Ger his so called priestly vocation will not be healthy.

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Absolutely not in the Latin brigade. Sorry. Lace and incense and starched albs don’t do it for me. I am strongly in the mass in the vernacular camp and also not in the latest translation as it is draws on a weak/overly literal understanding of Latin grammar. I’m afraid I have heard too many homilies on these issues or these issues slipped in at daily mass. Maybe my experience is atypical. I bristle every time.

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I don’t think anyone has the right to tell anyone what to believe or the church to which they should or should not belong. This includes you, 12.41pm and 6.13pm.

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@ 10.59, since when has ‘the church’ ever been consulted about, let alone asked to forgive, a priest who lived such a double life? You are living in fantasy land. But the leniency you express towards fellow erring priests is hardly surprising.
Does your leniency come from experience similar to theirs?

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I am sick and tired pat of these Hypocritical Bishops and Priest telling me that there is no such a thing as a virtual sacrament and to get my ass back to church. I do not feel safe to go back yet and they telling me I am not fulfilling my Sunday obligation and that it is a sin If I do not go back to Mass in person. In the first place I don’t go out of obligation. They are so hurting and desperate for money. I am in the U.S.A. they need to take their heads out of their asses. I am not going to be pressurized into going back. They can feck off. I am so mad. Any thoughts?.

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Many of the old manuals of devotion had a spiritual communion if you couldn’t attend mass for some grave reason and the threat of death in a global pandemic can only be described as grave!

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The Pharisees condemned others for conduct THEY thought was reprehensible; Jesus didn’t always agree with the Pharisees.
I prefer to think of non-attendance at Mass as an opportunity missed for spiritual growth, not as a sin in itself.
Attend Mass IF you think it safe to do so…FOR YOU. Listen to the facts here, and to your conscience; obey these at all costs.
Jesus is everywhere, especially in your heart. Unite yourself to him in prayer, wherever you are, regardless if you cannot attend Mass; you woukd still be eating his body and drinking his blood, because this is simply an invitation to unite yourself to him. And you can do so through sincere prayer.

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Well you yokes put up with the Blond Bimbo for four years, so just suck it up babe. Go ask Rudy for advice

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Professional standards in the church are appalling. A young solicitor in England was struck off this week for “dishonestly” signing three Land Registry documents in her colleague’s name. There was no financial loss to the clients. She was young, inexperienced, and had not even qualified when she signed the documents. If she had put PP in front of the signature she may still have been allowed to continue in the profession.
Six years of training down the drain and publicly humiliated by the judgement being reported in the Gazette for all to read. Yet a priest can be dishonest by breaking his promises of celibacy, playing one woman off against the other, abusing his spiritual paternity and yet still be allowed to continue in ministry. The church has no idea of what professional standards are. Young solicitors and doctors and accountants have the fear of being ‘struck off’ by the regulator drummed into them right from the start of their training. The same has to happen in Seminary where there should be zero tolerance of any sort of dishonesty. After ordination if a priest acts dishonestly then they should be laicized and the judgement made available for all to read. If we expect our solicitors, medics and accountants to act honestly and in our best interests then can we not expect the same of our priests?

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You are being unfair to the Bishops as I am sure in the case of Killaloe Bishop Fintan will be praying Carey and Ger would just walk away but they don’t they hang on and on.
In Armagh Eamon just hopes it all goes away and does nothing.
It is the canonical procedure that is so slow and even then it comes down to the proof.
No Bishop in their right mind wants problem clergy it is now a nightmare and in some dioceses they make the Bishop isolated.

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@ 11:41 – you are absolutely right ! I am astounded at what priests get away with and all with no comeback – professionally, financially, in terms of performance, personal behaviour etc. Where I live and work they would be out on their necks no excuses. It just seems that we are supposed to put up with poor behaviour and bad performance, lack of professional ability and a whole range of other inadequacies simply because they are priests ! I wonder do they even know about, even less undergo, performance and professional appraisal ? I guess the nearest they get to that is, do they turn up to say Mass, no matter how inadequately? Oh, sorry, I forgot, it doesn’t matter how they perform and at what level because of “ex opere operato”, and similar shit to excuse them from having to do anything well ! Our priest is an idiot and a tit and is completely useless and good for nothing. But, we are saddled with him, and told that we are lucky to have a priest to say Mass. Yeah, thanks….!!

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1.39: There is some accuracy in your observations. Some priests are just very plain and ordinary, not very alive. Not all are like your caricature. However, I wonder if you are involved in your parish community in any meaningful way to make a recognised difference?? What gifts do you bring to the community?

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Yes, their being priests is a pass for almost any kind of behaviour on their part. It is what Thomas Becket insisted upon: that offending Catholic clerics be tried in Church courts for criminal conduct rather than in the king’s courts; the latter always dealt more leniently with clerics.

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I do think an important aspect is being missed here, which has come up on this blog before only in the context of women in relationships with priests.
The priest will always put his ‘vocation’ before the woman. I have read of some women who are content to put up with this treatment but unless it is very clear between you that you are having a fling and nothing else, you will always be second fiddle. Even if he tells you he would marry you if he could. And if you get pregnant you will see his true colours.
It behoves a supposed man of God to treat others well and not mess with them.

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Francis said “Who am I to judge?”.
Maybe you should reflect on that, 11.41, before sharpening the guillotine.

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Sorry, I was under the impression that Peter was our supreme judge on earth “whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven”…

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It is, of course, a false impression.
And you completely misunderstood the passage you quoted: it is idiomatic, not literal, language.

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1.22pm. That is papalotry, pure and simple, and is something Frank’s fan base is very fond of, despite they having spent decades ignoring everything that came from Rome.

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6.17
You mean papalatry. Your knowledge of Greek is abysmal – just behind your competence in English.

The idiot called Bella does not speak for the church – (s)he is a sedevacantist.

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Good to see the two SDLP MP’s supporting the Secretary of State for NI today allowing abortions to go ahead in the North. Sinn Fein have also supported Westminster stepping in to enable women the right to choose. After all, if you are part of the UK you must accept the rights afforded to women in the rest of the UK. Only the DUP are opposed but Boris has thrown them Prods under the Wrightbus again and reversed back over the auld bigots.

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You’re very mixed up. Obvs a Republican because you insist on calling Northern Ireland the North, yet rejoicing that British MP with a seat in England rules in NI like a new Lord Lieutenant.

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You are the mixed up one lol @ 6.21pm if you can’t read the irony in my post. The pro life zealots are devoid of any intelligence.

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Why, oh why do so many say such harsh things about this diocese and its bishop? I do not understand the rancid flavour of so many commentators making a contribution to this blog. Sweeten yourselves – fruit and honey – with the flavours of gratitude. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with Killaloe. Problems arise in all dioceses and they are overcome. So it will be in the haven that is named Killaloe.

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@6.09
A haven, my friend, is a place where one can, in large part, focus upon things related to but also beyond this world. At times the ‘this world’ will dominate. It need not. Where else can one find such a space?

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@6.51pm The Island of Ireland as many know has four provinces. The Northern province with its nine counties, the loyalist unionists are quite happy to acknowledge as ‘Ulster’.

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Pat, after last night’s BBC programme – and two more to follow – football should be outlawed, banned.

All football coaches are kiddie fiddlers. Football management should all be in jail because they looked the other way, ignored dangers, turned a blind eye, blamed victims and didn’t believe them.

Management were aware of concerns about certain characters and they did nothing. Their only concern was the protection of the Institution of Football, its reputation, image and assets.

No more football. It’s far too dangerous to young boys and young men. It’s full of predators and perverts. Ban it outright.

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6.26pm
No, my words are not intended to be sarcastic. They idealise the idea of a diocese, which is an exaggeration. But, if we find our earthly and heavenly existence meeting in places where we receive bread and wine we find a haven.

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Jesus ye are a nasty bunch, Tina whelan is a community volunteer whose name has been dragged through the mud, just because of a vicious psychotic yvonne drake.
She has done nothing wrong expect try help her community and this is what happens when a person is in a drug induced psychotic episode. She brings the work down with her.
I think you will find Fr Ger Fitzgerald will still be standing this time next week, because the local community know the truth
As for ye here, pathetic rabid people, go out in the community and do something instead of being keyboard warriors!
You are all just showing how jealous you all are of Fr Ger and the difference he has made and will make in his parish.

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Poor Tina has given years of community work, inckuding meals on wheels, and she was a foster parent for many years.

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Bp Pat the way things are going, the Fr Fitzgerald scandal may develop into an ongoing saga. That would be nice.

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