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KILLALOE DIOCESE AND ENNIS PARISH IN MELT DOWN – AN ANALYSIS.

According to Ennis and Killaloe sources, the diocese and Ennis itself has been in serious decline since Willie Walsh became bishop in 1994.

Willie is a nice man but not a good administrator.

He also shies away from conflict and let the more bullying type of clergy walk all over him and get away with bad behaviour.

Willie was succeeded by Kieran O’Reilly who had run a world wide religious order and knew how to administer and manage.

He did everything by the book. Did priest appointments by letter and had a note-taker at each meeting he had.

He was then succeeded by Fintan Monahan, who is totally self focused and runs the diocese by surrounding himself with a clerical clique – people like Tom Ryan and Iggy McCormack.

My Ennis sources have highlighted the problems as:

1. Appointing academics with little pastoral experience as parish priests for decades.

2. Parish priests bullying and sidelining curates and allowing bossy lay volunteers to dominate.

3. Allowing out of control priests like Jerry Carey away with bad behaviour.

4. The unnecessary spending of money on the cathedral in spite of Ennis reporting annual deficit in its accounts.

5. A history of problems and scandals at Colaiste Muire being kept under wraps by the Sisters if Mercy.

6. Allowing a large number of talented priests to be discouraged to the point of them leaving the priesthood.

While all this is happening Fintan Monahan is concerned about himself and being promoted to an archdiocese – and spending time in his holiday cottage with his dog.

And just now, Fintan has the Carey and Ger Fitzgerald scandals.

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121 replies on “KILLALOE DIOCESE AND ENNIS PARISH IN MELT DOWN – AN ANALYSIS.”

If Derek Scally’s book is as poorly written and as badly informed as his comments on RTE radio (How many times did he express the words ‘narrative’ and ‘ambivalent’?), it will be a highly unsatisfying read for the intellectually more expectant, an apologia for the Church, and ridden with clichés. The most prominent and deceptive of these will be that human abuse in Ireland’s past (Scally would call this a narrative.) was a social and collaborative effort between the State and the Church.
Heard it all before. (Yawn)

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Killaloe does not have Parish Priests anymore it is Pastoral Areas where we all work as a team.
Bishop Fintan has no ambition to be an Archbishop he is content in Killaloe and has plenty to do in this dioceses.
Anyway he will not get Tuam as that is too soon and most likely Bishop Kevin Doran will transfer to Tuam
Bishop O’Reilly will be in Cashel & Emly till at least 2027 and it would be very unusual for another Bishop from Killaloe to be transferred there.
Archbishop Eamon Martin will be in Armagh till 2036.
Archbishop Dermott Farrell in Dublin till 2029.
The only changes there may be will be the amalgamation of dioceses.
All forward planning with the Synod.
All God willing and under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

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Lol yes. I couldn’t even place Killaloe on a map but just from reading this blog could tell it was wrong.
The somewhat breathless style places that comment as being from someone who often comments about various dioceses. ‘We’ – I think not!

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Yes it is team PP’s that’s what co – PP mean it is the new way forward.
Team Working under the Vicar Forane’s (Deans)

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11:05, ”he will not get Tuam as that is too soon”
Farrell was appointed Archbishop of Dublin and Primate of Ireland after 3 years in Ossory. Monaghan has been bishop for 4 years. Neary became archbishop at the young age of 48.

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Fr Jerry Carey seems to have been busy trying to get Google to hide him when you do a search. See the message at the foot of the search results if you do a Google search about him.

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+Pat,
It is easy to get caught up in anti-church sentiment. I have done so at times myself. However
1. Lugs is not around long enough to have appointed anyone, anywhere for decades.
2. When the priest dominate you accuse of clericalism. When the laity dominate you accuse of bullying laity.
3. Did he know of Carey before the prosecution but await triall to respect the due process of the law?
4. Nothing unusual about bank deficits relating to building costs.
5. No reply
6. You presume Ger is in trouble but those who walked away did not? One of the talented priests who left Killaloe (named here recently) slept his way through seminary with a lady who was also sleeping with a curate. I think she had a fetish for clergy. I have no doubt he slept through ministry too. Appearances can be deceiving.
I suppose what I really want to say is that sometimes stepping back and reminding ourselves that there is good in all people is a good thing to do.
God bless.

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@10.05
Thank you for your reflection.
My comment was designed on a point 1 to 6 basis, each point responding to +Pat’s 6 points. My point 1 responds to his point 1, and so on. I felt this a logical structure.

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Fintan Monaghan breached his duty of care to protect his two former seminarians from sexual violence.

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the truth will set Stephen Wilson free even if the truth is revolting 👥🏳️‍🌈

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The extract also features a group of over-excited queens – all probably gagging for it – during the JPII visit in 1979. I expect they’ll all be rancid flowers by now, Bp Pat.

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9.29
The caption in the extract cites these as priests; they weren’t. They were seminarians.
This isn’t the only piece of misinformation in Scally’s book.

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Faith of Our Fathers is a reformation hymn? Tell that to Fr Faber, another inaccuracy just in this extract

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Will the next Diocese on the brink of chaos, mayhem and meltdown, please, kindly, step forward? 😮 We have ways of making you talk.😅

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@12:08

Ah, sure, look at all the lovely seminarians in their surplices and soutanes. There might have been a few surplice to requirements!! Only kidding. I’m sure I must have served up tea to many of those lovely boys. Is that right fr. Jack…Fr. Jack…FR. JACK….!!!

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Is that Dermot Farrell at the bottom of the picture taken in The College Chapel in Maynooth in 1979 when JP2 was visiting? I believe JP2 was disgusted at the cheering for him in the chapel. How times have changed?

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More of the same – over promoted, badly trained, and incompetent bishops and priests who would not get a decent job outside the Church. The quality and ability of clergy at all levels is abysmal. This has to do with able men making the decision to use their talent for good in other walks of life, largely in response to the evident dysfunction of the clerical culture and the disincentive of the celibacy requirement. Those, usually not of the highest calibre, who do apply and join the seminary are then put through a system of training and academics which is severely lacking and generally descends to the level of the lowest common denominator. You reap what you sow, and that is true with clergy by and large. No wonder the whole thing is falling apart, as we see day by day in the reports in this blog. I’ll invest my time, energy and money elsewhere, I think.

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Eureka ! Anon@ 8.16, your comment is succinct, accurate, and as they say, “Nail on the head.” Thank you.
But also: how could it be otherwise when the whole raison d’etre of the RCC enterprise is a load of hogwash?
MMM

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9.22
I believe you will find the word is heureka. But don’t let facts interrupt a rant.

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@10:16: You may well be right, and I won’t argue the point. However it’s surely relevant to note that “H” as your best contribution in defence of the RCC. And how do you pronounce it? ……that good ole Norn Iron giveaway.
Incidentally when saying “Eureka” in relation to the RCC phantasy perhaps my thoughts went to that other world of phantasy illusions of Eureka, the Museum of Childhood, in Halifax, Yorkshire. It’s got lots of ‘smoke and mirrors’ there to impress and deceive naive children. Any similarities? I don’t need to wonder.
MMM

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@ 11:48: Just in case you feel left out: I meant YOU @ 11:47. And I’m so glad to see you agree that the RCC enterprise is indeed a load of …….codswalloping hogwash.
MMM

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Is Francis the fallen star who was given the key to the bottomless abyss and opened the bottomless abyss with it? Apocalypse 9:2? Fallen stars in Apocalypse are priests/bishops. Sister Lucia told us the 3rd secret is in Apocalypse chapters 9-12.

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11:48
Good afternoon, Bella.
Are you a football, rugby or gaa fan ? Or, maybe you’re fond of pitch and putt or a spot of golf? Do you fancy a flutter when the gee-gees are running?
Mass on the box came from Fermanagh this morning, Bella.
Don’t tell me- you served, or watched Mass,- from The Sacred Heart Church, Limerick.
A Fr. Tom, Dick or Harry Mass, just won’t do! Am I right, Bella?

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12:10pm
I’m not a fan of any of the above but I like a flutter on the gee-gees. I watch the Mass in Limerick every day. You are right that any of the others you describe are not for me. I hope that answers you.Good Day to you.

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11.19: MMM, more repetitive anti church, anti faith ranting!! What’s new in your Manual of Hatred diatribes? You seem stuck on chapter ONE – unless of course each chapter has a similar heading and content!! You seem to come “alive” when on your hobby hirse…It’s an ad nauseam nori g narrative. Have you fresh, enlightening perspectives on atheism which might inspire? I doubt it…

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Atheism does not have fresh or enlightening revelations to inspire you my good fellow @ 12:49. It does not propose a set of beliefs nor insist on any prescriptive adherence to practices. It is simply a descriptive word for those who see no convincing evidence for the existence of any God, gods, or other such alleged supernatural entities.
So what are YOUR proofs?
Atheists have consistently challenged religious believers by pointing out the inconsistencies of their beliefs and asking for evidence to support what they put forward as evidential basis for religious belief. And I suppose they will continue to do so, for what is put forward is , ……well to put it bluntly, hogwash.
But you can’t see that, can you?
MMM

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3.48

MMM, it’s me again.

Jesus did not expect the Jews to believe in his word alone, which is why he did things that any reasonable person would know could not have been done by another, exclusively human being. Or so the Gospel relates. But even when Jesus healed the blind and the lame, and raised the dead to life, there were still mindsets not prepared to be reasonable and make the obvious deduction from the quality of evidence offered.

Did you ever ask God to provide you with evidence of his existence, as Jesus did for the Jews? It would not be an unreasonable request, and God would agree. But if your mindset is like that of the Jews who refused to believe, despite the evidence, then there is nothing more that God can do for you.

If you have set your standard in implaccable opposition to the existence of God, then he knows that you will simply rationalise away any evidence to you presented by him.

I am like the Samaritans who believed in Jesus despite their being told about him by their fellow believer at the well: they each made a personal case for Jesus’ divinity through direct encounter with him, and did not rely on that woman’s testimony for belief.

I was raised Christian, but I do not remain a Christian through what others have told me, but through what I have learned about God in personal encounter with him.

God wants people to believe in him and to trust in him. And he is not unreasonable about it: he will provide you with good cause to do both…provided you seek it with a mind open to possibilities beyond the merely rational, and empirically verifiable. If you can do this, then God will provide you with whatever is required.

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@5:04: Repeating my question @3:48: What are YOUR proofs for the existence of the God you speak of? Don’t beat about the bush saying what you BELIEVE. The burden of proof is upon you.
You refer to this Jesus fellow as if A) his existence is a proven fact, and B) that if he existed he was/is God.
A&B rely entirely on no longer available ancient texts whose existence, provenance and interpretation is much contested. Yet you and your co religious believers simply accept, or should I say swallow, all the biblical alleged basis of the ensuing religious codology of the RCC.
I say again, the burden of proof lies with those who profess religious beliefs.
There are many debates on religion on YouTube featuring highly educated atheists and religious believers. Those at the Oxford Union are well worth watching, for example one I watched recently: Dr Ml Shermer’s contribution: 21.12.2012: God Does Not Exist, where in 16 mins he shreds the foundations of religious belief. Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris are well worth watching too. Perhaps if you and Anon @ 4:27 watched a few of these debates you’d begin to appreciate just how ridiculous are religious beliefs.
In the end, religious believers can only defend their beliefs by citing the alleged “good” religion does, their personal “faith”, their own experiences or belief. None of this stands as proof for the alleged existence of a supreme deity.
MMM

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@ 3:59: I’m really sorry to see you’re bored that I have no juicy clerical scandal stories to keep you amused. It’s not my style.
Oh well: each to their own.
MMM

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3.48: As I could have written, MMM. Atheism, as you define it, has nothing enlightening, inspiring or beautiful to offer the world apart from critiquing religious belief. Let me see the “good without god” perspective fruits…Caeucescu, Pol Pot, Stalin, Khmer Rouge, Hitler…the atheism of these despotic men produced evil. I look to my community and witness women and men of Christian compassion serving their neighbour in need – St. v. De Paul: Br. Kevin: Fr. McVerry, Sr. Stan: The Sr. Consilio Cuan Mhuire Centres, Dublin Diocese Crosscare Agency. MMM…the people helping disadvantaged children and visiting the lonely housebound in our Parish are former religious teaching and nursung sisters: those loiking after a Philipino community, former religious missionaries. Where do you, as an atheist, who is forever debunking CHRISTIANITY, fit in? You are entitled to challenge religious beliefs but surely, at your age, can you not find something positive and laudable to admire in these Christ motivated people and charities? Or is it simply that the good without god philosophy is utterly unstimulating and uninspiring? Usually when atheists are on “air” it’s invariably a time for throwing hissy fits at religious beliefs!! Nothing more.

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4:27:
It’s rather fascinating to note how frequently those, like you, who criticise atheists questioning your beliefs, resort to constant personalised attacks in an ad hominem manner, yet fail in any way to offer any of the proofs requested. It would certainly seem to an impartial observer that other than such attacks, the most “proof” you offer is personal conviction based on personal faith, which, as any student of the social sciences will know, is invariably a product of deeply embedded psychological and emotional manipulation.
MMM

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Willie Walsh has an overwhelming desire to be liked and has no backbone. One of the functions of a bishop is to govern. Another is to teach. Modern bishops do neither well.

Nor do they exercise their role of protecting the flock from those who would do evil. Bishops need to remember that a shepherd’s crook and a crozier have a pointy end to ward off wolves. They need to use it.

The nice guy crap was one of the reasons lives were devastated by CSA, with a warped definition of “pastoral” leading bishops to forgive and move around pervert priests who should have been in prison.

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12.29
Bella you will be able to go in person on Sunday as Scottish Chapels open from Friday or you over the Canonical age and expect that you can make as an excuse
god Bless

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The cover up by the Ennis Mercy Order in relation to a previous female principal sexually harassing a young female teacher. The order didn’t want to know about it when the teacher complained and they only gave the matter attention after the Gardai got involved.

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Pat have you made contact with his parents in Kilmaley. They will share the witness statement with you. A heart breaking story very sad.

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I see Little Fr Peter’s website in Wandsworth is back up and running. Sans the picture of him quaffing champers. And as a .com address rather than the original .co.uk address. Interesting snippets from the newsletter – about going to confession, and his own handy guide to a good confession (lonelycurate.com) and a rather neurotically obsessive note about consuming communion in front of the priest. Has he had people doing a runner ?! Shock horror ! Although, I suspect Jesus is big enough to look after himself without Little Pete acting as Security. Anyhow, good to see him back up and running. He does say a lovely Mass, Father….!

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All Hail Ye, All Hail. Actually, this diocese is administered in a professional, modest manner. A fine job has been done, crafting the Curia and their supporting staff into a team of note. All of your criticism is unfounded on the administrative front. Further, Bishop Monahan works behind the scenes. He is not one for public show and extravagance. No, he analyses a problem and works on a solution, ensuring as much dignity as possible.
Bishop Willie Walsh’s period in charge was a very different time. I find most of the comments about him accurate. Bishop Willie has been found wanting, there is no doubt about that. The situation now, however, is very different. Be assured of that. All Hail Ye, All Hail.

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Bishop Fintan is forward thinking with the Pastoral Area’s and Leadership many other Archbishops and Bishops are playing catch up.
Only Limerick under the Leadership of Bishop Leahy and Killaloe under Bishop Fintan the rest will get there likely Dublin next.
Some parish priests do not like the new way as they are terrified they are losing power.

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@9:59am Are you taking the piddle? Isn’t it fortunate for Bp. Willie to be retired, so, considering the number of times Killaloe has featured on Pat Buckley’s blog in the last six months!

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10.33am
Do not doubt my sincerity. It is very fortunate that Willie is retired. My congratulations were to Bishop Fintan, no other. All Hail Ye, All Hail

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The Best Catholics in the World is proving to be a great read – v informative and insightful into the disease nay plague of clericalism in Eire – his on the ground, contemporaneous interviews with lay men and women v good indeed – how many bishops do you know get out there to hear the lived experiences of ordinary lay people and their experiences of clerical abuse – it’s like In the Closet by Martel – an expose and historical analysis by a professional journalist- the clergy will hate it – listen to them squeal like little piggies all the way home. Good on ya Scally you ain’t no scally!!!

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F**k, I’m bored. Who gives a sh*t what goes on in some rural backwater of the west of Ireland ? This is the stuff of an Irish Lake Woebegon. Surely there are more important things to discuss than the masturbatory habits of Fr Carey, or the shagging habits of Fr Ger, or the incompetence of Lugs ? This stuff is taking place on the far western reaches of a rural backwater, last stop before the Atlantic. I doubt if anybody in Rome or anywhere else looks at this stuff seriously, rather just as some quaint happenings in the land of the fairies….

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It keeps the old folk going reading all about the strange goings-on and the lusty sex lives of priests and seminarians. The monks and abbots are just as bad it seems.
Concerned OAP

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10:53 am
Don’t be such a scallywagg!
I downloaded Derek Scally’s book from Amazon kindle for 9-50 pounds.
Worth ever red cent.

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11.10am

I couldn’t agree more – though in my case it’s a pink cent – you know that old Pink Economy that keeps everybody fed and clothed – alongside the Grey Economy of course. Great read – Best Catholics in the World my arse – if only, if only. Expose, reveal, shine the light so there’s no place to hide that’s what I say – the light shines in the darkness but those clerics favour the dark so they can store there muddy deeds!! Let that light shine baby let it shine. xx

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12:45 pm
Whether in red, pink, white, grey, or black economies, so what!
To quote, Fr. Trendy, aka Fr. Ted, i.e. the late, Dermot Morgan;
“We’re all God’s children.”

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I wonder if Fr Ger and his special friend were in St Flannan’s College together? She was a pupil there in 1990 when the diocesan college lost its Junior Seminary status when it admitted female pupils.

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1.23pm
Why do you ask this question? What difference does it make if the answer is ‘Yes’ or ‘No’. The answer is ‘None@. You are the person drawing back the net curtain to watch every pathetic move within your sight. You obviously did not have the brain to work out what a half decent question requires. The result of your error is the publication of stupidity.

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3.51pm
You obviously cannot see that 1.23pm made a connection between Fr Ger and Ms Drake and are showing your own stupidity publicly. If true, it is possible to say they knew each other from their school days. It’s a reasonable deduction unlike your black and white view.
Ennis is full of surprises, isn’t it? Pity it’s outside my 5km…..

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Pat, is a comment that a third of the clergy are heterosexual, a third are homosexual and a third don’t know what they are a fair enough comment from some quarters?

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Way more than 1/3 homosexual- more like 80:20 – majority are gay – priesthood is gay profession – imagine though an honest and truthful sex survey – impossible as clergy will lie and make out they’ve renounced heterosexual marriage blah de blah which is blatantly a lie – the priesthood is sociologically homosexual – the more pertinent question is how many are active and with droits de segnier very much de rigeur I’ll think you’ll find active homosexuality among Catholic prelates, clergy and seminarians at an all time high.

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Pat I would say that in the Glasgow Province ( Glasgow, Paisley and Motherwell Dioceses) of those ordained since 1990 about 80% are gay by inclination or orientation. Lots of them are excellent and dedicated priests. I know a number of them are in gay relationships and some have been living very fast and loose and are complete shitebags.
They are an absolute disgrace but people aren’t fooled and more and more people are able to discern the good guys ( hetro and homo) from the frauds.
Good news here today where we got a court ruling against the Scots Govt concerning the opening of churches (all denominations) for worship.
I can only assume that Rent a Gob Keenan from Paisley is indisposed as he hasn’t rushed in front of the camera to offer comment and analysis!
Or maybe I’ve missed something.
Anyway, Gilbert for Glasgow- my tip.

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3.07pm
And I wouldn’t trust someone who critiques correctly spelt French phrases but can’t spell ‘expressionss.’
It’s not that you don’t trust what I’m saying it’s more to do with you dont like what I’m saying!!!!
Adieu!

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3.51pm
Clearly, you did not understand my point. What is the value of an answer ‘yes’ or ”no’? The question was of no consequence. Superiority of mind does not come into this matter. It is simply the case that the original questioner and you do not understand the requirements of a question per se. Get a grip.

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5.23pm
I think I made my point clearly. That is the requirement of this blog. To be lacking clarity is to obfuscate meanings. Your tawdry comment at the end of your contribution is unworthy of anybody with a keen mind.

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Bishop Fintan is under pressure no doubt but I feel for the other clergy in Ennis who I hear are doing a good job. These men definitely need a good home to live in, one to be refurbished to the tune of €1 million euro as they require luxury in order to complete their daily work. You can’t expect them all to be under such pressure now can we?

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Also forgetting the €6m spent on the refurbishment of the Cathedral in 2003, the €2m spent on the Cathedral Organ in 2017 and the €500k to paint the place in 2019. Pretty excessive if you look at it.

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@ 09:14 am
Yes, I agree the “truth” will set Seminarian Stephen Wilson free even if the truth is disgusting, revolting, and a sacrilege.
You never know his Ordinary, Archbishop Martin might even find the scales dropping from his eyes when the “truth” is presented to him along with Bishop Crean.

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But when is this truth going to be revealed? There is so much to be lost by so many in the making public of this truth. I will bet that Thomasina McHugh and Rhianna McAleer will be quaking in their wee boots!! There might even be a few more in the Archdiocese of Armagh who would rather such truths were not let see the light of day. There is Laurentia in Cookstown who queens around in his trendy clothes and his dyed hair, Emelyna in Mullaghbawn who had to overcome the revelations of a jilted lover many years ago and Garretina in Loughgall who took a shine to a married man in Cookstown. I suspect that their stories are all entwined. And that’s not even mentioning Rory, Eamonn and God only knows how many more. What is it about Armagh and gay priests?

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The TRUTH will be revealed why someone has the guts to write or email Ara Coeli as Archbishop Eamon Martin is still waiting for contacts.
it is just blog talk.

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6.23: You, commenter, are obviously a priest, a member of the presbyterate and church from which, undoubtedly, you LIVE OFF…as in – depend on it for your expenses. To caricature your colleagues in this ugly, nasty way reveals the priesthood you live as fake, a sham, shallow, without real faith and a penchant for dangerous gossip and name calling. You are a very empty person and probably would be better out of priesthood – but that decision requires moral courage and integrity!!

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5.45
We read this all the time on this blog all the wrong doing and never nothing correct.
We are delighted for this blog as it lets the people lose some air as keyboard wizards and then we have the Blackpool moaners, the London Stalker and the Jardine’s of this blog.
And Bishop Pat has asked you all to contact the diocesan Bishop or Papal Nuncio if there is any wrong doing and it will be addressed.
you know todays audit from the media / PR guys is the Bishops are still waiting.
Apart from one person and Bishop Pat to Eamon Martin.
Both the complainant and Bishop Pat put words into action.

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To commenter at 7:23, thank you for your constructive critique of my assessment of a few of the gay clergy in the Archdiocese of Armagh, who are continuing to be active in ministry. It is an extremely sad indictment of the priesthood that these ‘men’ are the everyday presence of The Church. Yes, you are correct. I am indeed a priest, and heterosexual. It truly galls me to see the institution of the priesthood being destroyed by incontinent gay clergy who wish to live double lives, and by the past indefensible actions of sexually deviant clergy which was covered up by the hierarchy. My priesthood is strong and fulfilled, and is not rooted in the need to wear starched albs and amices with Roman style vestments, and the propensity to sport a cope at every opportunity. I won’t be leaving the priesthood, unlike some of the aforementioned who will be humiliated when the truth is outed about them. Bishop Pat, keep up the essential work that The Lord has deigned you to do!

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@9:23pm
Please, not the vestments lie again. Rory, Fr McCamley, Fr Lomnasney, McCarrick, the whole lot of them were strictly flowing polyester tent-like chasuble men who wouldn’t be seen dead in a fiddleback.

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I think bishop Pat is already in possession of the truth. If no one approaches Archbishop Eamon Martin, I have no doubt that Bishop Buckley will make public the disgusting shenanigans in which these clergy were involved. And Stephanie Wilson must not be allowed to receive ordination to diaconate. She can always go back to ring a trolley dolly when the airlines get busy!!

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Plea to the Master for no Evidence at the Scene:

Master, whatever might befall us…
Please let there be no evidence at the scene to incriminate us.

All Hail Ye- Master.

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7.23: Yes, I agree with you about the “nasty” clergy who use this blog to seek vengeance against one another and their bishops. They would be better out of priesthood and hi can guarantee that these creeps do nothing in their parishes. I know them: I’ve worked with them. They just about know the Our Father..

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Glasgow Presbyter – the majority of clergy ordained in Glasgow and in neighbouring Dioceses may be gay, but I can tell you that only 4 are in long term relationships. We must assume the rest are celibate unless you care to name and shame? Thought not. Gobshite.com

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Hi +Pat, see you have acknowledged +Kieran O’Reilly as a good administrator. I must say from my personal observances that he is a cynical man who just happened to land where he did, “got lucky” so to speak. The SMA’s seem to be mostly frustrated men in the closet who have reduced priesthood for the most part to a purely sociological endeavor. The same men who make plenty noise about justice let their masks slip once their authority is challenged in even the slightest way. I try to be charitable but this honestly represents my experience

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