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DOES PHONSIE THINK THAT THS BLESSSED SACRAMENT IS A CURE FOR COVID?

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Up until about four decades ago the Irish were a very superstitious people.

Their faith was rooted in Holy Water, rosaries, statues, relics, holy wells, fairy thorns etc.

My granny believed that touching a priest’s hat would cure headaches and dinking the tea left in the bottom of a priest’s cup was prevention from colds and sore throats.

That generation believed that priests could cure illness and even raise from the dead

They also believed that a priest’s curse was the end.

A relative of mine, a lorry driver, crashed into the local PP and killed him. Three weeks later a gas tank blew up in front of him and blew off his two hands. He saw tgat as a punishment for killing the priest.

There is nothing all all wrong with a certain amount of emotional devotionionalism. But it cannot be the all.

Is Phonsie hankering for the past when the clergy were the mega wizards?

I believe in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist.

I believe in the possibility of Eucharistic miracles.

But the Eucharist is not a magic wand.

And the Eucharist is a symbol of faith and love. It inspires, especially in times of trouble.

But what does carrying the Eucharist around the streets of Waterford achieve – a city in which the majority do not attend Mass?

Maybe it FORCES THEM to see are still here.

Is that not a sign of a not knowing what to do?

The answer being: “Lets have a Eucharistic Procession”.

Is it not a time for Catholics, inspired by their faith, to open food banks, set up neighbourhood schemes for the old and infirm, obey Covid rules.

As well as to say their prayers and worship.

Jesus did seem to favour praying in your own private room?

Is Phonsie lost, I wonder, in post Catholic Ireland?

96 replies on “DOES PHONSIE THINK THAT THS BLESSSED SACRAMENT IS A CURE FOR COVID?”

Processions with the Blessed Sacrament are deeply rooted in Catholic culture for centuries.

If you believe that Jesus Christ is really and truly present in the Eucharist is not the most natural thing in the world to bring the presence among people who believe?

The Eucharist is not a magic wand but Catholics believe it is the Divine Presence. The faithful are comforted by it – especially as they are unable to attend Mass.

It doesn’t have to be interpreted cynically, Pat. In your own way, you’re as bad as D’arcy in how you wrap absolutely everything around yourself. The only right way of viewing the world is through your prism.

Maybe the bishop of Waterford, who is clearly a devout believer, is just trying to comfort the people of Faith in that city?

Everything the man does, of course, is judged by you on account of your umbrage that he took exception to you coming to Holy Communion at a funeral. Even though, very loudly and proudly, you claim to be no longer in communion with the RC Church. You really can’t have it every way, Pat. Get over your prejudices against Bishop Fonsie.

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Because it’s not like God is present everywhere. He is strengthening the people in their dependence on priests.

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In the Anglican Church it is against canon law to lift and move around the monstrance during, and for purpose of, liturgical worship – however the monstrance can be placed upon the altar with the sacred host therein.
She still does Benediction at Evensong, though. Father is very relaxed like that, she has a lovely chasuble with golden threaded tassels 🤣 x

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Ah would ye leave the man alone, Buckley, ya auld bollox, for jayziz sake! Declare to God, ye can leave no one alone. What harm is he doing the man? Yer like one of them auld wans that has to pass comment on everything and everyone. Jayzis.

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The few people there aren’t throwing themselves on their knees are they. The bloke in blue is totally unbothered.

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I find that quite harmless. He’s probably just trying to remind them that God is with them in their suffering. What I don’t find harmless is that they have no idea where they are going, or how they are going to get there, yet demand that everyone follows them….. out of obedience.

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Bp Pat, I remember the +Aul Doll was panned on the blog for similarly taking to the streets at the beginning of the Covid-19 lockdown. These two other old queens should remain indoors until everyone is vaccinated, which I read will be ages yet in the republic like the rest of the EU.

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The figure in the distance seems less than moved by the impromptu spectacle of the two old road queens.

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This kind of antic by Phonsie is a rearguard action on the part of people like him – bishops and priests – to reclaim some kind of relevance. It’s definitely a “look at me” tactic ! For all the pious talk they will come out with about bringing the presence of the Almighty to the people, what it really is about is trying to put themselves and their influence at the centre. If I was God, I’d be pissed off with them using Me like that ! Also, don’t Phonsie and his type realise how cringe making it is in this day and age to do this kind of thing? Ireland is not that kind of country or culture anymore, we have moved beyond and above this kind of thing. If they want to make themselves and their message relevant again, then I suggest Phonsie and his pals start talking about integrity, honesty, and transparency, and lay off the duplicity, posturing and lecturing that has been the mainstay of their pitch for too long. What a complete Plonker Phonsie is !

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What’s the story with Cullen from Sheffield being shafted as university chaplain and ending up in fonsie’s patch?

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Here’s more of the arrogance and presumption of the Church and its bishops – especially the Polish varient: https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/14043/polish-church-welcomes-police-regret-for-intrusion They have gone all out to push for an apology / explanation from the Met, when in truth they should have been humble enough to accept that there was enough there for the police to be concerned, and to have just accepted that and moved on. But, oh no, they have to push all out to show they they are right and to humiliate the police. I would suggest that there will be some payback from the Met at some stage. Revenge is a dish best served cold. What this story really tells is the arrogance and aloof presumption of Catholics of this type, who are not used to being told what to do because they have for so long been glove in hand with power – as they still are with the fascist Law and Order Party government in Poland. Well, they had better get used to the new dispensation, because those days have gone in this country, and no special privilege is given any more to the Church and these entitled Christians. Times are changing…..

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Yours @8:47 am is a very different reading of the situation from mine. The Polish community has engaged with the police and the Archdiocese in an admirably courteous and positive manner, which builds up good relations rather than destroying them. Nobody has screamed “victim”, torn down statues of Sir Robert Peel, smashed up the neighbourhood, or claimed any kind of special status. Good for Polish Catholics: you’re very welcome in messed-up Britain. And I’m sure Priti Patel agrees.

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No they haven’t ! They’ve just moaned and complained and made themselves out to be victims – Catholic victims and Polish victims. It’s all about victimhood. Don’t you think the Met have better things to be doing than checking up on Catholics at church, so just keep to the rules and stop thinking you are except or above the law, which Catholics like this do. Same with the traddies, like the Oratorians. I bet they are still doing communion on the tongue and kneeling at the altar rails ? Who the f**k do these people think they are ? They are just like that twat Phonsie parading through the streets with his lace queen by his side, thinking that they are so important. Nonsense. The Muslims and others are showing a better example than these Catholics, Poles, Traddies and Parading Bishops. And, as for Priti Patel – well, nasty little dwarf she is, and poacher turned gamekeeper in the way she talks about and treats migrants and refugees, given that she was one herself. She has the usual immigrant politician backstory of a Dad who ran a corner shop or drove a bus. When people showed her welcome, should she not be showing welcome to some of the most destitute and needy people who turn up on our shores, rather than her begrudging, nasty, bullying behaviour and words. Nasty Conservatives.

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Funny how RCs go on about morals (mostly other people’s sexual morals) yet apparently can’t be left alone to follow the law. Not very moral….

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Not superstitious, but still touch wood sometimes and probably wouldn’t walk under a ladder. I wouldn’t put new shoes on the table either.

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Pope Francis did the same another miserable version of devotion to the Blessed Sacrament, we had a more reverent and dignified Benediction every First Friday at school.

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He’s an idiot parading around like that. Reminds me of a witch doctor waving his ju-ju stick.
But I’m reminded of comments on a previous blog some time ago. The issue was about how many RC clerics really believe in transubstantiation. I certainly don’t. And I noted at the time the tepid response from the “believers”, both lay and clerical.
But then that’s customary when matters of faith belief are being questioned: another mystery?
MMM

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Brave old man MMM attacking Catholics again. Ramadan is underway. I bet he didn’t go on Muslim sites ridiculing them.

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Sir, or Madam, @ 10:36: I do not “attack” Catholics per se, though I can readily mock clerical opportunistic use of faith belief. I question and criticise religious beliefs in general and Catholicism in particular as that is the religious sect into which I was incorporated and the faith beliefs I am most familiar with. Do you appreciate the difference?
Perhaps you might like to expound on the beliefs of Islam to enlighten us?
MMM

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9.30: MMM – What’s an auld atheist like you doing up so early? Is your Mourne Mountains Shed cold? Go back to bed and MYOB…Your atheism is cold, intolerant, ignirant and your narratives, all too predictable. Go read Dante’s Inferno or the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John!!

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What harm does it do? Surely a bit of faith can provide a great deal of comfort to the faithful. Perhaps you should try it… faith.

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You’ve only supposed to be outdoors for essential purposes. It applies to Daisy Dumplings too.

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Pat, you sound like a Paisleyite or an Anglican. Article 28 of the 39 Articles of the “Church of England” baldly states:

“The Sacrament of the Lord’s Supper was not by Christ’s ordinance reserved, carried about, lifted up, or worshipped.”

Sounds like you’ve fully turned Protestant, Pat.

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Some people have a leaning towards their Catholic faith. Some people do not. There is nothing at all wrong with carrying the Eucharist around the streets of Waterford.
Pat, you undermine the good work you do on this blog by posting an irrelevant topic like today’s.

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Seamus, yes it’s okay, just as long as the clergy don’t expect the guards to stop traffic and bystanders to doff their caps while standing deferentially to attention while the ju-ju master processes down a main street. Maybe having a New York style ticker tape hullabaloo might be too much to ask though?

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Yer Granny sounds a great auld wan to me, Lord rest her, pity there’s not more like her. Bishop Cullinan should be praised for processing with The Most Blessed Sacrament, of course all the haters and Buckbots on here as usual can only mock. Blessed be God in The Most Holy Sacrament of The Altar.

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Lol it’s the most holy sacrament of the altar.
And shouldn’t be divorced from the altar, because that wrecks the whole point!

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Oh dear 11.14. If you believe all that stuff then you’ve been well brainwashed.
Go out onto the street tonight and look up into the sky. The stars are distant suns ,many have planets revolving around them. Many will have a life force or other. Billions of them. Yet you believe that the manifestation of the maker of all of that universe is being carried round the streets or Wexford in a gold wand.
Aye right!!

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DO Tommy: You make a very relevant comment. The idea is totally bananas. Yet we didn’t even question the RCC “Real Presence” beliefs back in my 1950’s altar boy days in the priest’s Corpus Christi procession around the Chapel grounds.
How many readers have noticed on this blog that when I have questioned the RC concept of transubstantiation by asking believers to explain such a preposterous and ridiculous concept and belief, there is no response from the believers, ….other than the usual ad hominem aggro.

Your comment on the earth’s relative place in the cosmos and the wacky belief some of earth’s inhabitants put forward certainly puts things in perspective 😀
MMM

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That’s nothing to the bizarre ideas Irish Catholics get when they move elsewhere. I have had (in England) elderly Irish women tell me quite seriously that God hears the prayers of the Irish more than anyone else 🤣, and a younger woman, who really should have known better, tell me it is de fide to believe the shroud of Turin is Jesus’s actual shroud.
The fact the faith of so many people is built on superstition and misinformation would go a long way to explaining the state of the church in Ireland today. And as usual it is the fault of the clergy who really should be stamping out this nonsense.

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Oh dear 11:56am I see you don’t believe and prefer to look at the night sky and still don’t believe. Yes I do believe that the Creator of all things is present in The Sacred Host that is not being brainwashed as you and other unbelievers say. It is Faith which I am glad to have and pity you for not having that great gift.

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12.09
Don’t concern yourself about pity for me. I have faith. Faith in the truth the scientists tell me based on substance and irrefutable physical fact.
In the meantime you keep your faith in the myths and fairy stories handed down from one ignorant generation to the next.
You’ll draw much consolation from knowing you are one of the declining numbers of the easily brainwashed and innocent minded. Bless.

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@12:09: When asked to explain faith, religious believers are invariably flummoxed and reduced to parroting vague references to their own personal feelings and beliefs.
Of course: it’s a mystery!
I believe faith is merely a cloak for aspirational wishful thinking focused on indoctrinated beliefs which provide comfort to the reality of our relatively insignificant existence. It is mainly perpetuated by transmission to young impressionable minds and incorporated into consciousness together with the social conventions of communal living.
You refer to faith as a great gift.
I would say, “Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes”.
MMM

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Walking around the streets with the blessed Sacrament is ludicrous, the streets were empty anyway and the Catholics, certainly in Ireland, have long ago seen “behind the veil” when it comes to the Roman establishment and it’s Babylonian clerics. It is NOT a pretty sight…
I believe in the blessed Sacrament being exposed, on the altar, with use of a small and modest-like monstrance for quiet prayer time including group prayers. Anything else seems a bit OTT to me – but that’s just my own personal opinion and I respect others who may think differently.
… Crossing-up abuse one day, the next, wandering the streets all-the-while waving around the blessed Sacrament… it’s flawed before you even try to justify any of it!
Is this phonnsie character two sandwiches short of a picnic…?
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Gosh! That cannister going off in your relatives face — fancy that, Bishop Pat. That’s awful!
He’s extremely lucky to have only lost his two hands.
The priest he “bumped” into must have been a relatively holy priest going about God’s good work.
They say God watches His own.
Love and prayers,
Your Son in Christ Jesus,
Peter (and the cats lol) x

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11:07am

There is nothing ludicrous processing anywhere with The Most Blessed Sacrament, what is ludicrous to me is your constant OTT sycophancy to Patsy and going on about your cats I think your two sandwhiches short of a picnic.

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sycophancy 1:36 pm?
I simply have respect for all, including priests, bishops and anybody else who treats others as their fellow neighbour.
Bishop Pat is not a bad fella, and he is a great mentor and a good Bishop – yeah, I do look up to him and I respect him.
In addition, I don’t “suck up” to anybody, ask el Rector and the ArchLiar of Liverpool…
I was given many an opportunity… oh believe me… but my soul ain’t for sale – noway hosay! I have respect for others and I have respect for myself – I imagine that is why I’m in the situation I’m in now.
If Bishop Pat were to ever indicate, to me, to cover-up the abuse of Vulnerables
I would also tell him where to go.
Ask The ArchLiar of Liverpool and his Babylonian Co-ordinator and facilitator of abuse. x

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Poor Tommy @3:54pm

Poor Tommy I think your dream will turn into a nightmare as your misguided faith is in men and has no substance. Declining numbers mean nothing “Fear not little flock I am with you to the end” You will have no consolation for placing your trust in men when it comes to your own end God Bless.

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I am sure other readers will remember that after Vatican 2 Eucharistic adoration fell out of favour for a time – the accent shifted towards the Eucharist itself. I remember being told that adoration (particularly perpetual adoration) had had its day as expressing the theology of a particular time when people didn’t receive communion much. Of course this change stretches back to Pius X’s promotion of frequent communion.
I just think return to adoration is a step backwards to a previous age.

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It was never called Adoration it was Exposition and very rare outside of convents. The Forty Hours was the annual preparation for Corpus Christi and at no other time. Adoration is a Pope John Paul invention and is usually a 19th Century monstrance on a corporal with two gutted wax candles usually led or began by a lay Eucharistic Minister in a sparsely populated church. I see Bishop Pat is very particularly about having the tabernacle veiled in the Oratory which is rare in England.

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Adoration of The Most Blessed Sacrament is for all ages, it is only those who don’t believe and like to think that their particular theology, which is not the theology of The Church is a step backwards. I don’t agree, Bishop Cullinan should be praised for processing with The Sacred Host God Bless him.

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Phonsie, regards carrying the Eucharist around the streets of Waterford:

“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.”

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Yet when I made the point a few weeks ago that Christians should consider themselves blessed to be persecuted, I was told by a priest my comment was twisted. You people really are the most inconsistent….

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11.33: Thank you Seamus. Bishop Cullinan is to be admired because he faces the ridicule of anti churc bigots, atheists and even so called “gospel priests” – and Pat’s mockery and contempt is very misguided and ignorant.

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Wallis Simpson wouldn’t allow a peacock feather in the house, or mansion in her case. Swore by it, she did, Bp Pat.

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Dear +Pat,

I have never met + Phonsie.

A few days ago you posted about the child with athiest parents whom you gave ‘spiritual food’ to. You mentioned how the partenst were not best please but it was what it was.

If a person is selling food and nobody buys it the seller sets up free taste stands. If people are not coming to church for spiritual food, ought we not also offer free spiritual food, just as you did yourself? To some this is preaching the word from a butter box on the street corner. For others it is processing with the eucharist to remind people of Eucharistic Adoration.

Might I suggest that both you and Phonsie have much more in common than either of ye realise.

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Not superstitious really, but still touch wood sometimes and probably wouldn’t walk under a ladder. I wouldn’t put new shoes on the table either.

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Bp Pat, you’ll need to keep an eye on Miss Lee, she says, “I really don’t want to be dragged into public life or have any public scrutiny – I’m not in the public sphere.”

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The dangers of low IQ candidates studying morale theology and having 4 hours worth of lectures about stem cells, etc etc.

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The Holy Goat
It’s called Moral Theology. A person with a high IQ would know that. 🤣

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@8.52
I must concede that autocorrect has left me looking rather blushed tonight. At least it is good for morale.

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1.55
Whoever you are, your continued toxic pejorative ageist and sexist reference to another person is simply out of place in any civilized discourse. Shameful.

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1.43: I agree with you. This blog is probably the most toxic of any blog. It’s a forum for nasty trolls with only contempt and hatred in their hearts. The constant EFFEMINISING of men’s names is puerile, stupid, ageist and very ignorant. Pat believes in freedom of expression – as we all do – but with that freedom comes RESPONSIBILITIES – and this blog should begin acting responsibly, maturely, intelligently and with respect for others.

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@3:48: I agree absolutely with your criticism of the practice of referring to male clerics by use of feminine nicknames. It is all you say, juvenile and immature too.
Pat, you really ought to cop on and ban this practice, rather than minimise its offensive nature by laughing it off.
A straight question: what purpose does it serve?
MMM

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Bishop Pat and the Latin Mass brigade all know there is one true Roman Catholic Church under the Supreme Pontiff.
The Holy Father Pope Francis.
They all have it in common and will return to the True Faith.
It is good to see a Bishop with guts unlike the other careerist pen pushing Bishops
But it is strange Phonsie waits till near the end of Covid (got it Archbishop Neary retires on Friday)
God Bless.

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Auld Gossip Alert@2:06pm
LOL here’s auld Mother on again spouting off about The Supreme Pontiff, a title that auld Fanny wouldn’t recognize as he prefers to be called a servant. She must have stopped her self imposed career as the pen pushing nightmare of Papal Nuncios just to give us her ill-informed gossip God Bless.

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3.06
PMSL 🙂 🙂 🙂
I knew you would bite.
Father Wall said Bless You and when are you returning phone to book a slot for Sunday @ 10.30

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3.06
Jim S is harmless – just irritating that he believes he has inside information. However, he’s not as pathetic are you are. Hyporrite! To call down God’s blessing out of one side of your mouth while from the other you pour out disgusting name-calling against others, including Pope Francis. It’s people like you who give Christianity or any faith or religion a bad name.

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Bishop Cullinan was out earlier in the pandemic and has been carrying the Blessed Sacrament around Waterford on several occasions, including the first lockdown. So get your facts straight before you make your mischievous accusations.

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Auld gossip Alert @7:07pm.
O get a grip, we all know it’s you, I suggest you learn to spell hypocrite before using it. You give yourself away every time and the irony is you’re the biggest hypocrite of all with your false piety which is utterly sickening. As for Jim S being harmless that is only one name in the litany of names you have created in your fantasy world none of whom are harmless.

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8.12
You’ve no idea who I am. I have been revolted by your posts for some time. You’re not very educated or bright – barely a Catholic and not at all a Christian. The most sickening thing about them is your hypocritical calling on God’s blessing while using disparaging names for others. God doesn’t answer the prayers of the insincere.

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Why didn’t + of Deise County, do it much earlier say last year instead of today or whatever that photo was taken on the day in question. What was he trying to do here?
Looking for attention or something that I don’t know.
Superstitious all right re Catholic folklore🤔.
I have heard eucharistic monstrance healed some people out there.
There were instances that eucharistic came alive for a brief moment. It’s living presence of jesus as I believe.
God forbid if that Bishop got promoted to tuam… Careerist which I never thought about it until I saw one posted by a poster 👆

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I absolutely applaud Bishop Alphonsus parading the Blessed Sacrament through the streets of Waterford. But, the said same bishop is content to let the hypocrisy of Abbot Richard Purcell of Mount Melleray Abbey go unchallenged in his diocese. We know from this blog last year that the allegations were brought to his personal attention. He did absolutely nothing about them. And, sadly, that makes Bishop Alphonsus like the rest of the Irish bishops — a whited sepulchre.
If Bishop Alphonsus had real moral courage I would applaud this action. Instead, he indulges in glib cliché-ridden pronouncements redolent of a theocratic gerontocracy. And, that is why people see absolutely no value in the teaching of the church to the detriment of us all.

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4.34: You being by saying you absolutely applaud the Bishop for his gesture…but then you say if the Bishop had real moral courage I would applaud this action…Explain your contradictions. Either you applaud him or you don’t!! How do you know what this Bishop has/hasn’t done re: Abbot of Mt. Mellary? Because he hasn’t succumbed to the lynch mob of this blog is not proof of inaction. Silly you!!

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5.39
Bishop Alphonsus Cullinan is one of Charlie Brown’s last appointments.
So as a careerist you can bet your last penny Phonsie will be in constant touch with Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life who replaced the Congregation for Religious life

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Don’t insult lace or net curtains some people could not live without the 1960’s style.
I was stupid in the late 70’s i thought the undertaker put up lace curtains as someone passed away.
It is usually part of the Latin Mass brigade style of dress he has forgotten his black hat.

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No Pat, Bishop Cullinan does not believe or does he assert anywhere that the Blessed Sacrament is a cure for covid-19. How cynical! He merely walked through the streets as a pastoral, prayerful outreach to parishioners. His gesture was sincere. Your cynicism is disgusting. You are a horribly, unkind, very wounded sinner. Your harrassing of this Bishop is sickening and reprehensible.

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I was told by the Rector of the theological college that I should not commune, by way of intinction, because it is against the law.
I replied that I was just getting over a cough and still had a saw throat and did not want to spread this – he continued… and insisted the common cough or saw throat could not be caught via sharing the chalice, and again insisted it was against the law.
I replied, as politely as I possibly could: yes, Father Rector, you are indeed correct regarding the CBCEW’s customs and rules surrounding practice of intinction when in England, Ireland and Wales.
I continued… the Spanish Bishops’ Conference has no such rule or custom and that I was more than confident my saw throat would be gone by the time I got back to England – I then thanked him for reminding me incase I still had a saw throat when arriving back in England.
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Incidentally, I am led to believe that the law and legal system – including punishments and the prison systems – are of a very, very different nature in Spain.
For one thing Spanish prisons do not have air-conditioning…
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The prisons in England don’t have air-conditioning, though, do they..?
… Living Next Door To Alice – Smokie.
“I suppose you’ve heard… about Alice…?”
https://youtu.be/4RsrYZ2PA3U

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7.07 and 8.12 is not Jim S Bella.
We all know you have taken over the blog Bella if you notice not many Scottish people on it now.
However it is notice you are from the right wing SSPX and the nastiness stems from that mob of out of date wishy washers.
Today is the Feast day of Saint Martin 1 who was a pope are you not Martina’s friend.

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