To avoid confusion, can I state that there is a massive difference between a sexually active gay layman and a sexually active gay priest.
A sexually active gay layman has not taken a public promise of celibacy and chastity and is not living a lifestyle that is paid for by the Church and parishioners on the basis of their belief that the man is chaste and celibate.
A sexually active gay priest is pretending to be chaste and celibate and is therefore taking the financial, ecclesiastical and social benefits he is receiving from the Church and parishioners under false pretences.
Such a priest is selling the Church and the People of God a pig in a poke.
And this is not just a question sexual morality. Its also about hypocrisy, lies, dishonesty and double standards.
Any priest who wants to be sexually active and retain credibility and authhenticity must do the following:
1. Inform his bishop or religious superior that he is a sexually active gay man.
2. Inform the people he ministers to at Mass etc that he is a sexually active gay man.
3. Inform his family and friends that he is a sexually active gay man.
4. Accept the consequences of this honesty and see it as the price of authenticity and spiritual and human wholeness.
And when a priest takes these steps he must fall back on his faith and firmly believe that God will look after him in every single possible way.
What is it they say: “Cast your bread upon the water”.
The problem is that most priests would not be capable of the above actions for the following reasons:
1. Lack of courage.
2. Lack of moral fibre.
3. Lack of faith and spirituality.
4. Lack of trust on God.
5. Lack of trust in their own inner strength.
6. Refusal to abandon the position, comfort, finances they enjoy.
Jesus said: “Where the master is the servant should also be”
Jesus had no comfort, respectability, security, finances, position etc.
He said: “The Son of man has nowhere to lay his head”.
The Church tells us that priests are “ontologically changed” and are “alter Christus” – other Christs.
Like Hell they are 🤣
101 replies on “GAY CATHOLIC LAY MEN versus GAY CATHOLIC PRIESTS.”
Peace be with you my brothers and sisters in Christ!
Pope Francis said who am I to judge.
9Out of one of them came another horn, a little one, which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the beautiful land. 10It grew as high as the host of heaven. It threw down to the earth some of the host and some of the stars, and trampled on them. 11Even against the prince of the host it acted arrogantly; it took the regular burnt offering away from him and overthrew the place of his sanctuary.
Is mise le meas, Séamus.
05/18/2021 at 10:27 pm,
Landers’ maxim, “don’t let someone live rent-free in your head,” is about letting go of things beyond your control. … They’re living rent-free in your head!) Someone or something that lives rent-free in your head is causing you agita without paying for it. They’re getting something for nothing.
Peace be with you!
Is mise le meas,
Surely being an other Christ would mean being both divine and human? Or do these godlings only partake of one nature?
One thing is for certain- Jesus couldn’t possibly have been gay because it is a construct unknown then however it does amuse me when people who are otherwise certain he was true god and true man get so upset at the idea of Jesus having human sexuality.
I used to have a very amusing Victorian holy picture claiming to show mass in the catacombs. It depicted tridentine high mass, including lace and baroque vestments!
Jesus couldn’t possibly have been gay because it was a construct unknown then? Considering that homosexual acts are remarked on in both the Old and New Testaments, the existence of gay people must have been common knowledge in the Ancient World, though not by modern terms.
You’re as much at fault as the people you criticise for shying away from even the thought that Jesus had a sexuality (and, therefore, sexual temptations), because you cannot accept even the possibility that Jesus was queer.
The New Testament says that Jesus was tempted in every way that human beings are. Logically, this includes sexual temptation, including perhaps the homosexual kind. No one can confidently rule it in. Or out.
No dear. While homosexual acts are known in 22 species and all times in NT times the idea of sexual orientation was unknown.
You are promoting an anachronism.
So homosexual orientation in the Ancient World was unknown because… you presume it was unknown? Wow! Well done. You’ve created you’re very own logical fallacy.
Good to know your capacity to presume historical reality has also the similtaneous power to make it objectively exist; you and God are cut from the same omniscient cloth.
While we’re on the subject of homosex in the Ancient World, can you tell me what the duck relevance corresponding animal homosex has to the topic? If you can’t come up with a sensible answer, I’m sure you can presume one.
You’ve shown a nascent intelligence, too immature to understand my earlier post, but I encourage it nevertheless.
I’m delighted that you managed to distinquish the STATE of homosexual orientation from its modern, nominal form. An earlier poster, at 10.10, conflated the two. If this was you, then I marvel at the leap your nascent intelligence has made in the interim. Well done.
Be careful, though, about stating the bleedin’ obvious, because it can sound patronising. Of course homosexual orientation in the Ancient World (which we both acknowledge existed) was not known as ‘homosexual orientation’. It would be silly to say otherwise, wouldn’t it, since the word ‘homosexual’ wasn’t coined until the second half of the nineteenth century?Neverthess, the orientation did exist back then, by whatever name it was known, or not known. As Shakespeare cannily said, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. In other words, a rose, ontologically, would still be a rose, even if it were known as a dandelion.
You get my drift.😊
@11:45: I love the riposte phraseology. Sounds like MC? Well put.
Quite an ignorant post.
The concept of sexual orientation (over and against same-sex activity) is a nineteenth-century phrase. It doesn’t mean it didn’t exist, of course it did. It was simply not identified.
MC is what thick people like you think an intelligent person sounds like.
There are jolly drunks, violent drunks and nasty drunks. Why can’t you be one of the jolly ones instead of being a shit all the time?
You sound … as if you’ve had your wings clipped.
Mary M has become the spitting image of Fr Darcy.
That strange looking gay buck wouldn’t be going to Mass whatever the Church said.
“I’m all right, Jack”
Interesting information about Rory Coyle (aka Rory Mac Giolla Chomhaill) here: https://www.irishchaplaincy.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/IC-SENIORS-Newsletter-Winter-2018.pdf
Where did the Dr come from ? Doctor of what ? Really ? Probably from some rather questionable RC university. I think they give out PhDs like sweeties these days. Anyhow, he looks and sounds happy and hopefully he’ll settle in to a new life and enjoy it. Why would he want to come back to a world and life where he has to deny who he is and lie and live a double life ?
And all funded by the … SHEEP! Baaaaaaaaaaaa!🐑
The very people he was betraying.😢
And how well qualified are you to make such an evaluation?
Wonder what he calls himself on Grindr this weather?
I see Ireland’s Lesley Roy missed out on a place in Saturday’s Eurovision Song Contest Grand Final. I feel Fr Sugar Ray should now be given a chance to go through next year, Bp Pat.
Australia missed out too, Bp Pat.
Pentecost is the feast of unity and understanding. It was good of the priests to offer to bless Mary’s son and partner.
+Pat: Please restrict this obsessive Shambolic V111′ s contnual intrusions!
9:45, you had a choice to respectfully scroll on or to respectfully discuss the topic of today’s blog.
Shammy fellah: you certainly rarely “discuss” any topic. Your ramblings and quotations are invariably following your own disjointed zig zags of thought with barely obtuse references to any blog topic.
Hi Bishop Pat, fair question. I respect that they offered the blessing. Sure they could have gone public with their support but not everyone is comfortable at doing that.
The liturgy is the public work of the Church. It is highly clericalist to think of it as something that individual priests can choose to dispense or not, according to private judgement. It was probably Darcy or some other ACP hyperclericalist handing out the sweeties to the pushy old trout.
From a purist Roman Catholic stance, any sexual activity outside of the marriage is sinful, including homosexual genital activity between laymen. Actively gay priests would come under that initial stipulation. However, in the case of RC priests who take a promise of celibacy, any sexual activity, gay or straight, is necessarily an added level of sinfulness, because they do not only break the general prohibition, but they also break a solemn promise made publicly before God and the Church. There is much debate both within the Church and without about the nature of homosexual acts, and rightly there has been a broadening of understanding acceptance of homosexuality, at least outside the Church. Within the Church, homosexuality is still viewed through a biblical and mediaeval prism that has been shown to be outdated and incorrect, but the Church continues to insist on its negative view of homosexuality (intrinsically disordered) and its view that homosexual genital activity is gravel sinful. Whichever which way you cut it, RC priests who are homosexually genitally active are not just inherently disordered but also gravely sinful, according to the Church to which they belong, to which they have given their loyalty, and whose teachings they publicly uphold and preach about.
Surely, if you were being told this at every step by the Church that you were an integral part of you would see the gulf between your life and behaviour and how you were being judged ? Surely, you would look to go somewhere, some kind of life, where you were appreciated and valued rather than condemned and undermined ? Surely, you would want to be able to live an honest, transparent and open life, rather than scurrying around in the dark living a double, parallel existence and having to live a constant lie ? I am bemused why priests who are homosexual and want to engage in homosexual genital activity, or relationships, stay in the Church. It must be very painful for them. Or, maybe they make a clinical assessment and work out it is in their interests to put up with this lack of integration and honesty and that they should stay and enjoy the goodies that come with being a priest, even an unhappy, deceitful one who lacks integration and any integrity.
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It must be very painful for homosexual priests who want to be sexually active to remain in the Church? I suppose you’re right… if only they gave a duck about God, and Church teaching. Which they don’t.
Ironically there is a certain integrity if a Catholic, whether priest or lay, recognised gay sexual thoughts in himself and treated them as not to be acted on as that would be sin? This would at least be consistent. I would like to say that that approach would go with a more trad mentality but for the likelihood of dragging up in lace.
Being a Roman Catholic priest and sexually active as a gay man are incompatible. No amount of faith or courage is going to square the circle. If a priest is trying to reconcile both then the only answer is to stop acting out and be faithful to your sacred promise, or leave and find contentment outside of the church. I did the later. I would have been celebrated my
silver jubilee had I remained but would have been deeply unhappy and probably found it too difficult to readjust to secular life if I had left later. It took me 5 years to find my feet and to accept myself and to come out to my family after I left. All I found was unconditional acceptance and love. A car, a roof over your head, no bills to worry about, and adulation from a few old ladies will never make up for true freedom and inner peace.
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You are very lucky being an Irish Priests as in Scotland yes you have a roof over your head but the car is on HP or a diocesan loan but they prefer you to take it from the Car Company Loans.
Even now they are going big on Clergy getting Funeral Plans themselves.
finally the Church used to pay for your care in a care home however they now claim the Scottish Government for personal care and saving dioceses a fortune however the Clergy paid their tax and insurance so they are entitled to it
You did a courageous thing and well done I just wish others would follow your example
That’s shocking that they won’t even meet your funeral expenses.
Why should priests’ funeral expenses by met by anyone other than themselves? No one pays these expenses for the laity.
Christ! Romanist priests carry the sponging mentality even unto death.😕
Purgatory will knock that selfish shite out of them.
9:45, I admire your courage. I hope priests who are affected by today’s story will take encouragement from your post.
Well at least they’ll get a free Parker pen with their funeral policy. Seriously those policies are a con. Most people have enough in their bank to cover their funeral and the banks release funds prior to probate to cover funeral costs.
Most priests would not be capable of taking those steps for the reasons you stated, Pat? You’re far too generous in your estimation of priestly moral character. Practically NONE of these men could take those steps because, like Judas Iscariot, they each sold themselves out at ordination to a bishop and to his successors in return for a comfortable living, the equivalent of Iscariot’s thirty pieces of silver. And they each know it.
Iscariot deserves more credit, though: in the end, he rediscovered his conscience (if only not the capacity for self-forgiveness) ; the vast majority of romanist priests will never rediscover theirs. They serve the Church rather than the God of the Church; in other words, they serve themselves.
10.20: Thank you Magna. Maybe with the Feast of Pentecost this weekend, the Spirit of God might breakthrough into your heart. Your repeat narratives have not unsettled me one iota because I live my fidelity to Christ first and foremost. No amount of intellectual semantics by you on the head of a pin will ever deter me from staying with the decision afforded my over 40 years ago. From the beginning of ministry till this day, daily conversion, inspired by the Ignatian Examen, is my strength. One doesn’t have to leave the Church community to be of moral courage or integrity. They are in my bones since I was conceived. My parents taugh values, principles, moral and spiritual and the teachings of Jesus which grounded all of us in real, true human and Christian living. I thank God that despite my own personal failures, doubts and errors, I’ve also had amazing opportunities to be of immeasurable help to many, many people in the knowledge that at all times Christ was and is with me. I know it hurts you that such graces were denied you. I’m sad for you but your vicious, repetitive hate speech damages and harms you, not your perceived enemies. Now, I must go about my Heavenly Father’s business with grace, strength, gratitude, courage, compassion, peacefulness and of course- with a CHRIST-LIKE mind and heart. Bless you Magna. God bless you.
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I touched a nerve in you, and that is good. Your conscience, long freely yoked to a mammon-worshipping church, is stirring.
The fact that you have turned very self-defensive in the desire to justify yourself (in practice, your betrayal of Christ formally at ordination) is a natural, hopefully transient, desire to avoid stepping up to painful self-truth : it is, in fact, an experience of Purgatory on Earth. Whether it proves efficacious depends entirely on you. I hope you accept the lesson it is trying to teach.
I understand your wish to hurt me in retaliation. I awakened your conscience, and it, in turn, has awakened you to truth about yourself that is painfully hard to accept. I understand, but I do not condone. Nor does God.
You cannot possibly know what graces I may, or may not, have received. So your statement that I did not receive certain graces can only be an oblique expression of your desire that I not receive them. This is evil and sinful on your part.
Nevertheless, I wish you a successful, and speedy, end of the spiritual journey you are now on.
And accompanying self-serving comment at 10.33.
The broken record-like grating of this tedious poster would end if he informed himself about sacramental theology, whereby promising to co-operate with an ordinary – secular or religious – is one’s chosen way of co-opetating with God.
We have heard his uneducated bypassing of research route to formulating positions that are as unsafe as they ard absurd.
At 12.51, does coperating with God, then, involve cooperating with bishops when they upheld canon law and ordered priests and others to keep mum about the rape of children? Becsuse thst’s whst hsppened. And it is still happening.
Most walks of life don’t expect candidates to get psychologically assessed. Their suitability is based purely on qualifications and their professional behaviour.
The only exceptions would be situations where the work is exceptionally psychologically destructive such as espionage.
Neither do most walks of life expect people to get psychological treatment for normal human sexual behaviour.
By its approach to its priests and candidates the church is unconsciously showing:
1. It acknowledges it attracts psychopaths and dangerous people.
2. It acknowledges the usual requirements of its clergy are ridiculously psychologically stressful.
3. It acknowledges that it thinks normal human sexuality is a disorder.
4. It acknowledges it treats its clergy as chattels and invades their normal human experience.
It is hard to get much more dis-ordered than this.
All seminarians and religious candidates and psychologically assed by outside Psychologists
However like all walks of life people change.
Then it comes down to honesty.
Most Bishops do not want the psychological deranged to leave as they do not want the embarrassment and furthermore it does not look good when they go to Rome every four years with the facts of their dioceses.
@5:55: Indeed the seminarians are not only “assed” by outside psychologists, but by “internal psychos” too: if you know what I mean!
It is true. Surgeons who hold the power of life and death over you on the operating table don’t undergo such tests, and I can’t imagine that the job is without very real stresses and anxiety. There is something odd about the whole thing.
The person behind the Magna Carta account has serious problems – a repressed lonely homo with alcohol issues is a recipe for disaster! Bishop Buckley, have you offered to help this man? He really needs your help. He demeans the priesthood yet he was not deemed worthy of the thing he demeans – how fickle his psychology! He probably grew up all his life thinking he is special, only to be faced with the cold reality that he is a nobody.
I’m sure Magna will be touched by your warm, personal holiness, given your express good wishes for him. Like St Paul, it is clear you are alive in Christ.
You’re a priest, aren’t you? You certainly sound like one.
As for Catholic priesthood, you slipped up there a bit. Considering what we all now know (and undoubtedly have yet to find out) about this priesthood, it would be unpardonably cruel of anyone, even Magna, to demean it further, since it has more than sufficiently demeaned itself already through all the good priests we are assured objectively exist and not just in the minds of those cheap pampheteers at CTS.
I have good news about Magna, which I’m eager to share with all you priests, since you have shown him such unqualified love and understanding down the teary years:
HE’S BEEN SOBER NOW FOR OVER FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS. 😃
Since 10 January this year. Or so he tells me. And I believe him! Isn’t this wonderful?! I’ll presume your congratulations and pass them on.
As for Magna’s sexuality, if the local bookie were giving favourable odds on Magna’s being straight, I’d bet a month’s salary on it, given the, erm, subject matter of his mucky videos.
Yes, Magna does get lonely at times, like us all I suppose. I’ll tell him your concern.
12:31 is a classic example of a schizophrenic personality talking about itselves.
Another Ward 15 success story.
No, not at all. All on my ownyo.😃
Mother Nature gave me a loving warning, and I’ve not ignored her.😐
Eamon Martin is blessed by Stephen Wilson and his Trolly 🏳️🌈👥
3.31: You are right. This is probably the most revealing insight into Magna’s interior psyche ever. I suspect he was trying to be both smart and funny but the author is indeed speaking about, to – and of himself. It’s worrying but somehow he seems to enjoy the attention. If it gives him a scintilla of comfort, let him at It. But, men in white coats should not be far away!!!
‘Interior psyche’ suggests an exterior one. Is that Freudian? Or just fraudulent?😅
I agree but not just gay. We’re all called to that integrity.
11.04: Your conscience is the one most touched. I can visualise you trembling on reading my comment – all your nerve endings must be in overdrive. Magna, your softer comment this time doesn’t work. There’s evident self pity, a sense of your loneliness, a need for relevance by being on this blog so frequently again. You have yet to convince any of us that you are normal. And, as you are beginning to accept, I and the majority of clerics I know gave and give their allegiance to Christ. Just this morning I officiated at a tragic funeral: visited our school and anointed an elderly parishioner..More to do later…All done, not for my glory but that of Jesus. That I find to be a very special grace..and a source of contentment, though at times I don’t always feel up to or live the expectations. Surely, Magna, by now you must realise that hatred and vindictiveness are counter productive!!
12.09:👍👍👍👍👍👍👍…Always remain hope-filled. Skip the crushers.
@12:09 – Don’t waste your batteries on a poor little hater-troll like MC.
“Any priest who wants to be sexually active and retain credibility and authhenticity must do the following…”
All well said. In walks of life though people can find it difficult to talk to their parents, family, teachers, superiors and even their partners. Bishops and/or religious superiors should encourage an environment that facilitates an open door to those under their stewardship who wish to speak about something troubling them.
What about an open bedroom door though?
I have no answer for you to be honest Bishop Pat. I didn’t expect a question like that! I innocently thought a priest would knock on the door of the bishop’s house/office, have a cup of tea and a chat and talk things out, or at least that is what they should be able to do.
Keith Patrick O’Brien RIP had a very open door policy and all on first names and himself called Kitty.
Look at the mess that open door has left Archbishop Leo Cushley is still trying to sort out the mess for over seven years now and still trying to manage the debt.
Bishop Joseph Toal is trying to do the same in Motherwell after the mess he inherited as Joseph Devine RIP was removed overnight by Rome and the Papal Nuncio.
And who ever goes to Glasgow will have to clear up the “friends” open door policy there.
Bishop are appointed to be leaders of the Faith not Chief Executive Officers.
When Bishop john Keenan was appointed to Paisley it was Bishop John now it is Bishop Keenan familiarity causes contempt.
PS I am not jealous because I was not at kitty’s PJ’S parties although was invited just thought it was disgusting a Prince of the Church acting that way.
Clergy in Kerry are concerned about it’s latest seminarian Mark Moriarty. No ordination? Sources in Kerry say he’s been submitted to hospital for psychiatric treatment? Is this true Pat?
LI dont know. Ray Browne has him living on his own in a presbytery and has instructed the priests not to visit him?
Bishop Browne told a senior clergy man that he will never be ordained by him. Browne trying to get rid of him now.
He needs treatment for uttering pious platitudes like this “Mark observed that when Pope Francis stumbled and fell on the altar in Krakow it was reported extensively in the media throughout the world.
“What the media didn’t report was that 25 million young people also fell – we fell in love with Jesus and his Church,”
I feel a little bit of sick in my throat.
Ray Browne has told Mark Moriarty that he will not be ordained a Deacon, but he has not definitively told him he will never be ordained. It is classic equivocation by Browne. Moriarty is currently residing in a church property outside Killarney purportedly to complete his studies. In effect, he has been ostracised and Browne is hoping he will take the initiative and “leave”. Moriarty is friendly with Fr Jones. I am told that Jones has collected Moriarty from Maynooth and driven him to Kerry.
Before the lockdown, Chris Derwin, Sean Jones and Mark Moriarty would meet for dinner in Bistro 53 on a weekly basis.
Sean Jones and his ‘bae’ Brendan Marshall.
Bae,” Dictionary says, stands for “before anyone else,” or a shortened version of baby or babe, another word for sweetie.
What’s your opinion on the BBC journalist Brendan Marshall? Fr. John Gates has announced his imminent return to St. Patrick’s College, Maynooth.
Ray Browne typical Bishop hoping the problem will pass over and in this case he will be hoping Mark Moriarty walks away Bishop Browne is only 64.
Fintan Monahan will be wishing that Ger Fitzgerald and Gerry Carey submits letters of resignation as it makes the process quicker and simpler.
Roman Catholic countries should be considered unreached:
What Jordan Standridge is “reaching” people with is not the Gospel at all but the false teachings of heretics whom the apostles and the early Christians would not recognise.
No they wouldn’t. No lace involved at all and we all know that’s essential to sacred tradition.
@2:48 STALKER ALERT 🚨 You need to unlatch all that internal anger and hurt. You will sleep better at night 😂
I attended the funeral of Josef Pavelka in 2013 where Fr. Ger said the mass…his ego is his biggest problem. He gave an oration in the church another over-extended one at the graveside where cameras were present. It was obvious he was getting some kind of a fix from it all. Weeks later, a sleep out for the homeless. His pastoral work in Cloughleigh also led to great praise (ego fixes). While I understand that the locals want him back and ‘don’t care’ about his dealings with Yvonne Drake, these are quite possibly people that would decry the likes of Trump for his degrading attitude to women when there isn’t much difference between them except for the matter of scale. He needs the same treatment as any addict to get his ego under control.
You should have watched his face book when it all broke out about him and Yvonne Drake and his denial mode was all about him so I am glad Bishop Fintan has removed the face book page but Ger needs to face up to the damage he has done to everyone.
People on here will likely not believe but the Catholic Church has many unsung hero’s who do it for the Vine Yard and not self praise.
The Catholic Church has the largest Social Services network in the UK and Ireland and one example for Dublin would be Brother Kevin.
Most people and including Bishop Pat do it for the Vineyard we are all in and do not seek self praise.
Mc aleese comments on rcc brought back some feelings which I experienced some form of oppression back then .
Rcc were the oppressors who replaced the British in 1921. What I meant by total oppression was that they clamped down on everything relating to sign language. Priest and cbs considered it a sin and created that new sin if we used it freely in pubicily or privately. So they said it must be confessed etc. Such was the huge power of a priest hence the oppressors. They gave various penalties re breaking sin reating sign displayed or exhibited by ourselves such as x times of leather straps, cleaning their floor, in bad books, monetary fine such as 50p (before the euros). They took over totally on education of deaf person which they had no real expertise in except for their religious education or their degrees. Sometime we were clever than them by going underground cos they don’t understand what’s be to be free and expressive, using our sign language instead of their crude and unworkable method namely oralism. That said, it doesn’t work for every deaf person. Their consequences of their so called expertise on deaf education such as oralism was, plummeting literacy rates, reading age of 8, total dumbing down of education as a key route out of poverty , despite our severe hearing loss. Their damage on our education was incalculable and longer lasting damage. That’s the price we paid for re joining deaf school ran by them. We felt so oppressed cos not to be able to sign freely naturally plus severe penalties imposed by priests and cbs/nuns. Irish State followed their religious wisdom in which they had no real expertise in deaf education except for their charity. Nowadays we are the experts not them. Mc aleese although I’m no fan of her, but it evoked some feelings of oppression when she spoke, which I did experience back at the height of their power . They oppressed hugely on the gay, deaf and various disabilities et al. It was quite and very uncomfortable experience . In reality, rcc replaced the british as new oppressors when they came into being in 1921 replacing the vacuum left by the British. It’s not all about love or mercy, compassion that they preach now. It’s one way street of their brutality, beatings, sex abuses, clamping down on sign language. It was sheer oppression remsicent of Cromwell. They don’t represent God in my view given my experience of them. It doesn’t correspond to God re beatings, sex abuses, banning our sign language.
What are they re rcc?? You ask yourself that very question???
It’s hypocrisy, double standards, lies, double lives, fooling us by their deception of double lives by living on a lie. They didnt do all of that at their height of unbridled power such as love, mercy, compassion when they were at very height of their unbridled power.
Rcc should stick to their religion full stop and don’t get involved in deaf education or politics or disabilities that they know nothing about.
The truth will set Rev. Stephen Wilson free even if the truth is revolting 👄
I don’t know Fr Ger but I have witnessed first hand, on a number of occasions, especially where the funeral is a big one in terms of mourners, that the presiding cleric adopts a dominating and domineering persona – it’s as if he thinks it’s all about him – long introduction to the service, playing for laughs, insensitive to the mood of the congregation, eager to show he’s up for the craic and down with the kids, long wandering sermon, bossy delegation, and struggles to delegate, and just when your hoping and praying you’ve seen the last of him he’s at it again by the graveside, having the craic with the holy water blessing, chatting and gossiping, no sense of the grief or sense of loss of the mourners. He clearly thinks he’s brilliant at what he does and appears to literally have trouble stopping talking. If he had a t-shirt it would say, It’s All About Me Isn’t It?
One cleric at the graveside said to the mourners in a loud and insensitive voice, ‘I can’t hang around to chat with you I’ve got a v important meeting with the Bishop.’ As if anybody gave a shite.
Maybe some clergy see themselves as performers, there to put on a show and pick up their fee.
They are definitely getting some kind of fix or high but to be honest the vibe they give off is of being emotionally and spiritually out of their depth and ill equipped to conduct such an important life/death event.
I think I know who you are talking about, handheld microphone and all that.
Should be on the cruise liners, not outdoor Masses acting a clown 🤡 🎤🎶🤢
He’s clearly brazenning it out — roll on Summer days 😎
Sadly the Church is not for you if you are more concerned about microphones than Our Lord.
Churches have to move with the times and the new microphones are a piece at the side of the Priests mouth so it is called technology and the Church has to embrace it.
Never did the Church ever think it would need CCTV but now it is a necessity to protect the Clergy and Staff and also the parishioners as people steal their bags and assault them.
Plasma screens instead of hymn books.
I take it you do not have a mobile fone again 99% of the clergy have mobile fones.
technology is the way forward.
From an insurance point of view when you renew something your better to get the latest model
Ger did what you say a week before he was removed at a guy called Paddy’s funeral it was all about the Good Ger writing all Paddy’s Christmas cards for him and even one to Willie Walsh and it was shocking and all about Ger giving him 1 or 2 euro’s.
However Father Ryan was having none of it them all sitting there as though they were at the Cinema and father Ryan said stand to greet the gospel after that Ger got the hint he was to do it the Church way.
Thankfully Bishop Fintan stopped the big anniversary mass on the Saturday night as Ger was leaving however father Ryan offered the Mass on Sunday for Tina’s mother.
Ger needs to do some soul searching as the Sacred Priesthood is not for him maybe a good social services worker.
It’s the Seamus and Magna Carts show today. Yawn
Oh yes indeed. But I’m not interested🙈🙉🙊.
Its cathartic for me to express my feelings re rcc so that you all would know what did rcc did to us. Even its their mealy mouthed words which was and is meaningless. I would highlight how quite dangerous if you put rcc at pedestal or at helm of everything. By its nature, its very right wing organisation and have Cromwellian instincts such as Spanish inquistion, crusades, tuam babies, abuses as I could go on.
Btw, now and in future, I will reduce to post here less and cease with an exit from this blog.
Oddly enough DG, you were interested in Magna the other day, when you asked him about John, Patmos, and the head-banging ‘magic musrooms’ that grow there.
A pig in a poke? Okey dokey!
. . . Your wish is my command! 🤣 🤣
Uncle Fester is getting suspicious!
The “good doctor” has a plan. Again
Pat, surely the signs of a deranged Magna should not be encouraged by the printing of his comments. They have finally revealed the utter madness, dysfunctionality and siciopathic nature of his mind. You ought not to let him fall so ignominiously on this blog with his craziness. You have responsibility. Remember – A DUTY OF CARE.
I’m afraid he has finally exposed that he didn’t have a vocation to the priesthood. After all he has stopped drinking and is frank about his sexuality. 🤣🍾🍷🍸🍹🍺🍻🥂🥃
He hasn’t stopped being horrible.
Wasn’t he fortunate to have “got out”?
I’m sure a majority of ex seminarians reading this blog shake their heads and smile at the regular efforts here by clerics trying to boost their self esteem by denigrating those who had the good sense and courage to jack in the corrupt institution we now abundantly see the RCC to be. You’re welcome to it pal!
And yes, me too.
Oh happy days!
Sage advice from 25 years ago “get out now whilst you still have your health and strength, love who you want, when you want”https://youtu.be/yJczetKc13A
Dont think there is any of this going on in Westminster or Arundel and Brighton
Didnt know it was Magna for sure. But yes it sounded like him although I could be wrong there or he deny it🧐
This bit re John and patmos got me interested cos it might lend some credence to high mushrooms and his revelation story. Who knows??
Certainly not John the apostle per Wikipedia.