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CHILEAN JESUITS RECOGNIZE 64 CASES OF SEXUAL ABUSE.

Chilean Jesuits Recognize 64 Cases Of Sexual Abuse

AFP – Agence France Presse. May 25 2021.

The Jesuit congregation of Chile has acknowledged that its priests sexually abused 64 people, including 34 children, between 2005 and 2020, according to a report from the Catholic order obtained by AFP Tuesday.

Eleven Jesuit priests were found guilty following an internal investigation of “abusive situations with a sexual connotation” involving underage victims, according to the report by the Society of Jesus, known colloquially as the Jesuits.

Of the perpetrators, “five have died, three are currently under strict professional supervision plans, and another three are no longer part of the Society of Jesus,” said the order.

The Jesuit order said that since 2018 it has been providing authorities background to the abuse allegations.

It added that 31 of the victims have received financial compensation.

Amongst those found guilty was Renato Poblete, the late former Jesuit leader who allegedly abused four minors and 19 adults over four decades from 1960.

Poblete, who died in 2010, spent almost 20 years as the head of the Hogar de Cristo, the country’s largest foundation for the homeless.


He was first accused of abuse in 2019, after which the Jesuit congregation asked for forgiveness.


The Chilean Catholic Church has been embroiled in sexual abuse scandals since 2010 when pedophile priest Fernando Karadima was first accused of molesting boys.

A Vatican canonical court found him guilty in 2011 and in 2018 he was defrocked by Pope Francis.

His case helped expose a culture of sexual abuse within the Church in Chile.

PAT SAYS

Here comes another RC sex scandal.

This time involving the Jesuits – Pope Francis’ own order.

And once again the perpetrator is dead meaning the victims will not see justice being served.

But at least the Jesuits are acknowledging this one and I hope that means something to the victims.

Hopefully they will get counselling and compensation too.

81 replies on “CHILEAN JESUITS RECOGNIZE 64 CASES OF SEXUAL ABUSE.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/to-save-the-church-dismantle-the-priesthood/588073/ 👉 the question of priesthood.
Its a long read but interesting with small extract 👇
In February, a Washington Post report suggested that early in his pontificate, Francis learned about the systematic priestly abuse of institutionalized deaf children in Argentina, decades ago. The abuse had originally been brought to light not by Church officials but by civil authorities. The deaf victims reported that they were discouraged from learning sign language, but that one hand sign often used by the abusive priests was the forefinger to the lips: Silence.

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@12.30

Francis knew of this abuse before he was pope, in fact when he was cardinal archbishop of Buenis Aires. He ignored the reports he received and threw his full support behind the man who would eventuall be convicted of sexually molesting the deaf children who were, supposedly, in his fatherly care.

Francis has NEVER returned to Argentina since his demotion to pope. Maybe his run in with abuse survivors in Chile when he visited there and made a public ass of himself over a bishop who had ignored the abuse of children by a priest made him waken up to the real possibility that he might get avfar worse reception in his home country.

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@ 2.32

Yes, it is.

What’s more, Francis had a defence of this man, Fr Grassi, drawn up by a panel of experts, presumably at considerable cost, and presented to an Argentine legal tribunal. Francis’ attemtpt ailed.

Grassi is serving a 15 year sentence for abusing a boy in his ironically titled ‘Happy Children’s Home’.

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Why does Roman Catholic priesthood keep attracting this calibre of candidate? Isn’t it obvious? The irony of such attraction (perverts to what is supposedly sacred) is apparent, not real. Priesthood is not sacred. And it is not sacred, because it was not intended by Christ.
There were NO priests in the early church; just followers who met in one another’s homes for safety and fellowship and who, IN COMMON, broke bread, and drank from a communal cup in memory of their saviour, Jesus the Christ. This is historical fact, not fiction.
Priesthood is an entirely human contrivance, a historic vanity project that, predictably, went terribly wrong.

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And whether or not people are concerned about the origin of the priesthood (I personally really don’t care) we can agree about who it attracts
It does however have one function – we can see dodgy characters coming a mile off because of their membership of the priesthood.

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11.56: An ignorant, bigoted and most unintelligent comment. Make a more cogent argument and stop imitating the Magna Carta lies and hater supreme. Lies. Lies. Lies.

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1.09
Lies by me? What lies?
Debate me on this rather than make wild, unsubstantisted comment.
Or are you historically ignorant as well as a coward?

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Letter from Rome: Cardinal Marc Ouellet throws his hat into the ring
By Robert Mickens
The friendly French-Canadian Cardinal Marc Ouellet who is finishing up more than a decade as head of the Vatican’s office for bishops has just launched his candidacy to become pope.
There are those among the cardinal-electors who would be eager to back Ouellet’s candidacy. However, they know that once he is no longer head of the Congregation for Bishops his chances to become pope greatly diminish.
Benedict XVI gave Ouellet his influential Vatican job in June 2010 when he rescued the affable French-Canadian theologian from a difficult and rather dismal eight-year tenure as Archbishop of Québec.
And when Benedict shocked the world and retired from the papacy in 2005, Ouellet was much discussed as a leading contender to succeed him.
“I have to be ready even if I think that probably others could do it better,” he told the CBC in the run-up to the conclave.
“But I will cross the river when I get to the bridge,” he said in English. “My identity is to be a missionary – right from the beginning,” said the cardinal.

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Cardinal Marc Ouellet is a Good man but will never be Pope.
Cardinal Tagle or Cardinal Parolin are front runners now and Cardinal Sean O’Malley the outsider.
There will not be a vacancy for a long time God Willing as Pope Francis seems to be in good health.

Cardinal Marc Ouellet is supposed to be going this year.

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11.15
Good men do not promise or vow loyalty to an institution ‘corrupt, and riddled with corruption’. I should have thought this blindingly obvious.

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Why are we concerning ourselves with who will, or will not be, the next Pope? Unless some of us have a right to vote at the next conclave it’s all speculation….

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Pat look more deeper into the Maynooth fund allocated for abuser seminarians . The fun was established after the summer of love 2016 for the rehabilitation of current seminarians addicted to illicit sexual patterns. I can confirm the list of seminarians who were sent for psychological assessments and care if you would like Pat.

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I’m not buying this recognising that it’s happened. When you read further into Poblete he is said to have had six women on the go at once.
We have recently seen the havoc caused by a priest with two women on the go yet these Jesuits expect us to believe nobody knew anything. Seriously?
I think they have probably had a culture in the community where it was okay for a priest to have a few women and have now been caught out so they are following the classic church playbook of denying anyone knew.

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First the USA, then Europe, now South America. Gradually the spotlight falls relentlessly where there is wrongdoing. But, this will be nothing compared to what will emerge from the African churches, where there is corruption and wrongdoing on an industrial scale. Watch that space. What has already been uncovered elsewhere will be as nothing compared to what the clergy and the institution of the Church get up to in Africa. Mind you, they were taught well, in many places by Irish missionaries who sowed the seeds of corruption and abuse, in far off lands where they thought they could get away with it. Some of the old boys are now back in Ireland in their retirement, hoping that they are long dead by the time the truth comes out. Mind you, their Orders know who they are.

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https://youtu.be/Mwk75Fek3qs

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Why? … are there Jesuits, too, who like to pay rent boys to walk around wearing women’s silk stockings and tight fitting lycra / racing bicycle clothing / leggings, whilst just watching and sniffing Amyl Nitrite and getting all worked up and excited?
Outlandish fetishes like these are very secular in nature.
Each to their own is what we say. Just as long as it doesn’t involve underage male prostitutes! ! That would be illegal and immoral, wouldn’t it? A completely different ball game all together!

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Lol have you even heard about Cardinal Cocainepalmerio and the party? You might like to think these fetishes are’secular’ (what a bizarre way to think) but you’ll find them going on inside unholy mother church.

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A poster referred yesterday to the practice of according a DD to a bishop.
There’s no basis for such a practice, no formal, official or actual conferring of a doctoral degree. It is a vestige of a clericalist era and mentality.

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There’s not even a scroll awarded or any honorary degree ceremony. They just suddenly add DD after their name when made a bishop. Like Dr Dermo.

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Who is the Dominican priest in Cork who sometimes makes announcements on the webcam? Not the brightest. Not a looker.

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@ 10.37am ‘Not a looker’. You reveal yourself as a silly, rather ignorant person. Why on earth make that remark? Did you think you would get a half-laugh.? Just grow up and shut up.

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There is something sacrilegeous (a violation or abuse of that which a religion regards as sacred) about a priest reading the anaphora of the eucharist sotto voce, or worse, aloud in Latin or any language which he doesn’t understand.

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the HOLY GOD will PUNISH the ones make the FALSE charges against the HOLY PRIESTS the HOLY GOD does not choose the men for the HOLY PRIESTHOOD who go after little children to say men are called to the HOLY PRIESTHOOD is to say the HOLY GOD calls the paedos to

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The “HOLY GID” has a point. If priests have a vocation, then it follows that God calls paedophiles, ephebophiles, and the generally corrupt and corruptible to the priesthodd as well.This is the logic of arguing that priests are called by God

I think MC is right when he says that priesthood is a human invention.

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12:45, I like the fact that you picked up that the eejit posting at 11:58 was that GID fellah again.
Imagine having such a single minded simple bore as a neighbour, or worse still, a relative.

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11.58 and 12.45 – very embarrassing and inane comments. What morons are you with this kind of thinking?

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Can you not argue with them rather than call them “morons”? Both have a point.
If God vocates men to the priesthood, then it follows that he KNOWINGLY calls perverts, too. Why would he do this if he was a God of justice and mercy?
You can’t have it both ways. If priests have vocations, then the logic of this is that priests who rape children have vocations, too, as well as all those, popes and bishops, who shaped canon law so that it would protect these criminals regardless of the welfare of children.
From your standpoint, God is not just. He is as corrupt as the men who claim to serve him.

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BBC news today concerning Canada’s cultural genocide of more than 150,000 indigenous children taken from native families to Indian residential schools where at least 4000 now identified as having died. The bodies of 215 unidentified children have now been found at Kamloops school which used house up to 500 children as late as the 1950’s.
This school was under RC administration.
PARTNERS IN CRIME!
Revered former Professor of Social Administration turned folk singer Roy Bailey , used sing:
“I’m not afraid of your God, Jahwe, or Allah, ……but I’m afraid of what you do, in the name of your God. ”
“By their fruits you will know them” Matthew Ch 7.
MMM

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MMM, where were the social workers? Why weren’t they inspecting and supervising? Did they have the same hands off approach as taken about Kincora or by Sharon Shoesmith, the Ulster-born social work manager who presided over the Baby P scandal ang got compo when she was sacked.

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Typical diversion tactic 10:28! You cathbots really are the pits. Instead of examining the possibility of your own wrongdoing it’s hands in the air pointing elsewhere to shift blame.
I believe your Shoesmith aspersions were ably dealt with previously on blog by referring to her successful claim for wrongful dismissal. That was another example of attempting to deflect culpability elsewhere, onto an individual on that occasion by the negligent council.
But you’re probably too stupid to examine and understand complex issues like this.

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Catholics, both parishioners and priests, abhor these scandals. Vile creatures have carried out these crimes.

The likes of the Donegal Healer mentioned in a comment a few weeks back do incredible work helping the victims on a journey of forgiveness for themselves to be able to heal and live.

Those who have been tempted into evil cannot expect mercy at the end of their lives. Mercy is not a blank cheque to carry out evil.

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Seamus vii at 2.30pm

Do you know that Donegal healer that you speak of.?

Hes spoke a lot of hard truths that some priests in the North didn’t like it even among Catholic laity. It was Catholic laity who reported that healer to bishops whereever he spoke in the churches. They forced him out to hotels or ballrooms where he travelled and spoke very hard truths on Catholicism. One of the hard truths was that some priests taught Catholics in wrong way. That’s why some bishops out there, don’t believe in JC and practiced it in the opposite way.

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Seamus, of the four personalities listed by the commenter at 11.15, at least three or more are closely identified with the antieucharist / antisubsidiarity policy of McCarrick (at least one of them in its very core).
Leave your sacrifice on the threshold, don’t go down into the house, and go home by another way. The city and the sacramental system mentioned in Ch. 21 of Revelation are not the “eternal” Vatican. Ascending, the Son Of Man distributed gifts differing: He didn’t veto them or ration them; this is grace abounding.

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He who enters a Conclave as Pope leaves a Cardinal.
Unlikely to be Secretary of State as they tend to be King Makers.
Tagle? Really? Be like sending a rather effete boy to do a mans job.
I used to think the Holy Spirit played a part now I think who becomes Pope is who the current incumbent wants to be Pope – it’s less Holy Spirit more politicking and jockeying.
Who knows Francis might resign – hope the next Pope isn’t a religious and more like Albino Luciano than Wojtyla, Ratzinger or Bergoglio but honestly who really cares?

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Healer said ‘forgiveness is the key’ to healing. I wasn’t ready to let go that time. He said forgive them as it took me a very long time to let it go. When he passed away as I was only half way there. Then 1 year later, I met a healer from kerry, who was totally the opposite to Donegal healer. He wouldn’t criticise the bishops at all but still he couldn’t get into the churches and give a hotel. He was praised for his preaching by bishops outside Ireland. Then I began to wonder no praise from irish bishops, just saying.

Like the Donegal healer, he was forced out to hotels and ballrooms to give a talk. It was a hotel outside Navan where he spoke as there was a black priest from that parish who came to say mass as well. I was able to forgive rcc on that day. But still I don’t trust rcc cos they caused it. One poster this week said its a devil playground which made sense when it comes to protecting innocent and also vulnerable kids as well.

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Pat at 2.43

Hes deceased as he used to live in Belfast. Out of respect I won’t name him. He wrote a book which I found it hard to believe at first but inspiring book. Met him back in his home county. Powerful healer I came across as he pinpointed my health problem but didn’t tell me what, just said there and there etc that I didn’t know at first but borne out 1 year later.

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More of the same! Its like me wind up clock. One gets used to the tick with time. Whats happening as a result of the revalations

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Westminster Clergy Appointments.

Drip, drip. Here’s an update on part of the secret email, which I have not seen.

Fr Tim Mangatal (to be ordained on 26 June) to Enfield.
Also to be ordained on 26 June: Marco Salvagnini; William Johnstone; Jakub Joszko.
Fr Chinedo Udo (Enfield) to South Harrow and Northolt
Fr Tom Montgomery (South Harrow and Northolt) to be decided.
Fr Allan Alvarado Gil (Islington) to Willesden Green
Fr Mark Dunglinson (Willesden Green) to be decided.
All AP sideways moves so far.

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I see Maryvale is going to be closed down and all courses will be online, the end of the first Shrine to the Sacred Heart in England and Newman’s Catholic home. Should make a good Islamic school

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Westminster Clergy Appointments
Mainly Cathedral-related
Fr Andrew Gallagher (Cathedral Precentor) to Rickmansworth PP;
Fr Michael Maguire (Chiswick AP) to Cathedral Precentor;
Fr Brian O’Mahoney (Northwood PP) to Cathedral Sub-Administrator;
Fr Daniel Herrero (OLV Kensington AP) to Chiswick AP

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He was a charismatic when I was at seminary with him. Seemed a nice guy, balanced and well rounded. Sad if he has decided to Jack it in.

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There is no evidence the Cardinal was present in full regalia. That is merely your supposition.
Garngad Lad

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The biggest news from Westminster Cathedral is Boris Johnson got married in the Cathedral today.
So the RCC cannot be all bad.

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How did Boris Johnson get permission to marry in the cathedral?
Even if his first marriage was annulled, the second ended in divorce.

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9.12: Cummings cannot afford to call anyine a nutcase. He’s fs frst class nut himself…The treachery of politicians one towards another is sickening. Same in Ireland.

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I wonder if Elsie officiated or left it to the Pole or one of the junior chaplains. We may never know. George Stack would have loved to have been there. He was in his element rubbing shoulders with The Queen and bigwigs.

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Boris Johnson’s Mum was a Catholic however Boris is an Anglican.
He has been married before as well.
Strange as the RCC do not usually let divorced people marry unless they have been annulled by the Tribunal.

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Annulments take years to go through the system is slow.
The media guys is not giving much away who married them and likely a short ceremony I would be surprised if it was a full nuptial Mass.
of course it was the tacky Sun that is giving the story there has been nothing official.

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The Telegraph and the Mail had the story early and named the celebrant as Fr Daniel Humphreys, the acting administrator and also the priest who baptised their baby.

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Yes they would be seen to be invalid. Boris was baptised RC, got confirmed in the C of E at Eton. Still as a baptised RC his two marriages outside the RC church would not be recognised. If he had been baptised an Anglican that would have been a different matter altogether. Those marriages would have been recognised and his marriage in the cathedral would have been refused. There is a very subtle difference here.
Garngad Lad

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Boris was Christened a Catholic, confirmed in the Anglican faith.
Carrie Symonds is a practising Catholic.

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How can she be a practising catholic and have fornicated with Boris and helped ruin his previous marriage??

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His previous two marriages may have been invalid but to the rest of the world it looks like hocus pocus and a shameful attempt by the Catholic Church to gain political influence. The child was born out of wedlock.

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A shameless attempt by the politicians to gain political influence they have, sadly, already got. The usual reason why we shouldn’t believe in church marriages (and solve all the sacrament problems in a fell swoop).

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BBC paper reviewer is reporting that Fr Daniel Humphreys, who baptised Boris’s son last year, did the marriage.

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Quite wrong. Father Humphries was SUB-administrator of the at the time Wilfrid was baptised. When canon Tuckwell died last year, Father Witon was transferred back to the cathedral as administrator from Enfield and father Humphries to Enfield as parish priest.
Father Humphries is a very mild charming man who has conducted many funerals during this horrible pandemic in Enfield.
Like it or not, Westminster is where Royalty, rich and famous rub shoulders . It is after all the centre of London.
Garngad Lad

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Why not turn it into a Boiler Room franchise? The Right Reverend Rawhide Abbot will not have to go all the way into Dublin now. And, as we already know from this blog, Rawhide already “christened” it in encounters with a former priest.

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Bullingdon club boy Boris can literally get away with anything. Now he has got the Catholic Church to turn a blind eye to their sanctity of marriage beliefs and has managed to get a Catholic wedding despite being twice divorced.

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