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THE “MIRACLE” OF THE HIV ANTIRETROVIRALS.

Drugs called antiretrovirals are a virtual “cure” for HIV / AIDS – turning the once terminal illness into a chronic health matter.

There are peoole in their 80s with HIV livng perfectly normal lives today.

These people, like others, will die of heart disease, strokes or cancer.

Sadly, many, including health professionals are ignorant of the vast progress made in this area.

HISTORY

A look at where we are 40 years into the HIV epidemic.

May 17, 2021By Liz Highleyman POZ

1981: The first medical report of AIDS is published in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.
1983: French researchers discover the retrovirus that causes AIDS.
1985: The first HIV antibody test is approved.
1987: The FDA approves the first antiretroviral drug, AZT (Retrovir).
1992: The FDA implements an accelerated approval process for experimental drugs.
1994: The ACTG 076 study shows that AZT prevents mother-to-child HIV transmission.

1995: The FDA approves the first protease inhibitor, Invirase (saquinavir).
1996: The first HIV viral load test is approved.
1996: The FDA approves the first NNRTI, Viramune (nelfinavir).
1997: The FDA approves Combivir (AZT plus lamivudine), the first coformulation of two HIV drugs.

1998: The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) issues its first antiretroviral treatment guidelines.
2001: The FDA approves tenofovir disoproxil fumarate (TDF), the first nucleotide reverse transcriptase inhibitor.
2002: The Global Fund is launched to provide HIV treatment to low-income countries.
2003: The United States launches the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPAR) to fight HIV in low-income countries.
2006:The FDA approves Atripla, the first single-tablet regimen.
2006: The SMART study shows that treatment interruptions lead to worse outcomes.
2007: The FDA approves the first integrase inhibitor, Isentress (raltegravir).
2010: The iPrEx study shows that Truvada (TDF/emtricitabine) reduces HIV risk for gay and bi men.
2011: The HPTN 052 trial shows that antiretroviral treatment reduces the risk of HIV transmission.
2012: DHHS guidelines recommend HIV treatment for all.
2012: The FDA approves Truvada for pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP).
2015: The START trial shows the benefits of early HIV treatment.
2015: The World Health Organization recommends universal treatment for people living with HIV.
2018: The FDA approves Trogarzo (ibalizumab) for people with multidrug-resistant HIV.
2020: The FDA approves the first HIV attachment inhibitor, Rukobia (fostemsavir).
2021: The FDA approves Cabenuva (cabotegravir/rilpivirine), the first long-acting injectable regimen.

THE GREAT PROGRESS

verywellhealth.com

There can be little doubt that the drugs used to treat HIV have advanced enormously over the past 25 years. What some may not realize is just how much antiretroviral therapy has improved since 1996, when the first triple-drug therapy changed the very course of the AIDS pandemic.

Most importantly, with optimal treatment, a person newly infected with HIV can expect to enjoy a normal to near-normal life expectancy. According to research published in the Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, a 20-year-old who tests positive for HIV today could very well live into their 70s and beyond.

Antiretroviral drugs are one of the major scientific breakthroughs of modern medicine, transforming a disease that one thought to be a death sentence into a chronically managed condition.

UNDIAGNOSED PEOPLE

Recently one of the HIV doctors in N. Ireland told that 25% of people with it dont know they have it.

That’s sad and serious.

Those people are a danger to themselves and a danger to others.

Everyone should get checked.

And if you are UNDECTABLE (meaning that the tests cannot fetect any HIV in your blood) you are also UNTRANSMITTABLE (unable to pass HIV on to others) which is wonderful.

92 replies on “THE “MIRACLE” OF THE HIV ANTIRETROVIRALS.”

7.25
You are a primitive heretic and you know nothing of the God of Israel and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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the CATTECHISM teaches that men who go with men are INTEGRALLY DISORDER and that the HOLY GOD cried to HEAVEN for VENGEAN E it’s happening so HEAVEN is doing it

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Obviously you have never read the Bible – if you had you would have no doubt of Gid’s ability to smite.

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Oh yes @ 9.48, I’ve read that collection of stories referred to as the “Bible.” It seems zealots regard it as if the Sky Fairy Gid himself personally wrote it, or dictated it. That’s despite worldwide disagreement as to its authenticity, interpretations and relevance.
And bible zealots everywhere pick and choose what they believe, …..selectively according to their own whims.
You’re welcome to it pal, …….and your own delusions.
I think I speak for many on this matter.

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You’re talking bollocks mate; if God had sent it to “strike people down”, then He’s seriously fucked up, hasn’t He, @ 7:25 am?
Did you not just read the long, vast and ever advancing list of fucking brilliant and fantastic medical progress in this one specific area? And that’s just the stuff which has been already been formulated, tested and then approved… Therefore, that’s just the half of it! If that much progress has been made since 1983 — the year I was born, and I’m a young man in my 30s! — then God certainly has blessed science and the amazing doctors and nurses who commit their lives to all areas of medicine.
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I’ve got Attention Deficit Disorder — known as Attention Deficit. When I was younger I was a bit hyperactive; your typical kid “swinging off the lampshade” as they say. I believe full ADHD is when you are young: the ‘Hyperactivity Disorder’ side of ‘Attention Deficit’ — but as kids with ADHD mature into adulthood, they often just have the ‘Attention Deficit’ side of things, known as ‘ADD’ ‘Attention Deficit Disorder.’
I don’t believe God gave me ADHD as a child then ADD as an adult — that’s just ridiculous and SO Old Testament!
But I do believe God gives us various abilities, borne out of different experiences, to help us understand how precious people and life are.
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My love for people and my living understanding of the preciousness of every life is the main objective reason I chose not to go further in my training for the Roman priesthood. I could have kept quiet and grated along without raising the alarms I did — but for what? To sell my soul to the devil?
I chose love — not an evil society where the fruits of real love are a danger to the progression of evil and malice.
… Maybe it’s just my Attention Deficit, or maybe I’m just a fool! But either way: I’m a fool for love!
I believe my Attention Deficit enabled me to hyperfocus, to the point, where I just “took the controls” and “handled” the demons which other people had and prevented them from forcing them onto any other poor vulnerable people. God’s Holy Angels — Pray For Us! 🤔 😎 🤣 X
… My Attention Deficit has worked wonders for me! A busy, busy little bee! X

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10:54 am– I don’t know what you mean, baby doll? Why what’s up, girl? Had bad news or something…? Aww, I hope that solicitor’s got a magic wand 🤣 X

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9.39: Bit confusing but interesting. Thankfully, I made my decision to stay a seminarian and be ordained, despite reservations about many aspects of faith, church, dogma and clericalism. I remain because each day I make the decision to be committed to what is asked of us in true, gospel like ministry – to forever be Christ-like. It is the only way of being sustained in ministry. I would be loathe to recommend any man to consider priesthood….But I am grateful for each day’s opportunities. Parishioners keep us very grounded in realities.

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@7.25
That is a very gender specific comment. Why would God punish men for being with men but not punish women for being with women? Are you calling God a pervert or a sexist? Or are you just exposing yourself as a muppet?

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From what I understand, it’s more likely the case, God punishes men for being in relationships with women! 🤣
At least that’s what the evidence seems to suggest to me, when one of my mates keeps me on the phone, complaining or moaning, over his girlfriend 🤣
Oh, and by the way, I don’t for one believe the lives of heterosexuals are anymore as boring those of homosexuals… 🙄

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the HOLY GOD will PUNISH the woman lesbians in good time but the men one’s are made in the images of the HOLY GOD so their PUNISHMENT is worse the HOLY GOD is saying STOP IT but no one hears

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@4.02
Interesting. So if you think men get a worse punishment for being made in the image of God, what type of punishment do you expect for priests who engage in such activity given they are made in the image of God and volunteer their way into a higher standard of conduct?
(please do not understand my question as a statement of agreement with your earlier posts)

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the PRIESTS are made HOLY at ordination they are HOLY no matter what it is a sin to call a HOLY PRIEST a sinner they are ALTERED CHRISTS

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7:32 pm– Thank you for your comment, you sound very committed…
Pardon my saying: but if you were to “speak up” about injustices in your own Diocese, would that be frowned upon? It usually is isn’t it? Isn’t that why things are so bad?
The reason I nearly died is because I spoke up about the injustices of others, including the injustices perpetrated against myself and, for even daring to speak up!
You say: “I remain because each day I make the decision to be committed to what is asked of us in true, gospel like ministry – to forever be Christ-like…” You then go on to say: “It is the only way of being sustained in ministry…”
Could it be the case the only way of being sustained in your “ministry” is to be a passive participant of a “bigger picture”?
If you really were to live up to the calling of the Gospel of Christ, would you not find yourself—more than likely—“burdened”? Ostracized? This is the norm for those who do!

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I refer to yesterday’s blog. Think rcc has form of favoring the rich instead of the poor.
Can you imagine if you ask RCC for a private quick marriage within 7 days in their church. The odds is that you won’t get it very quick unless you are rich and loaded or famous or high ranking government such as BJ.
Rcc have scored their own goal re this. I think they don’t care really. Its all the more the reason to distrust rcc. They can’t be trusted simply as such.
So this would encourage people to marry in civil office or registry instead of rcc. If it comes to divorce, they can apply for it and re marry again if possible. I know a fella who got married in a beach abroad years ago but I was surprised he got divorced recently.
So that he can remarry again( against restrictive rcc rules) cos he didn’t marry in rcc first. Both were Catholics in name but not now anymore.
Yesterday poster at 9.08pm
No parents will teach their child catechism at home. Nor will the primary school teach it as well. It’s probably parents with die hard trad of attending Latin Mass will teach their kids re catechism. Thats about it.
This will accelerate a huge decline of faith in rcc. I don’t know what’s would like in 20 years time or 30 years time. Will it be gone or a minority just like in Germany.
Scally book is very good as it enabled him to distance from rcc when living abroad. His local area where abuser Fr Mc Gennis. There was many warnings re that priest but ex PP chose not to report it upstairs until Marie collins reported him, 10 years later too late. But the damage was done hugely. Their weekly church takings fallen from 900 a week to 200 a week but still paid their debt re new church bulit in 1970.

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DG
The True Church has been around for over 2000 years and will be here for a long time yet.
We are the Church of the poor as we were first with Social Services and then along came the Salvation Army however the difference is the RCC never blows its own trumpet.
As for marriages the RCC does not do quick marriages as we see it as a Sacrament so it is six months notices and a pre marriage course about the Sacrament.
As for Boris he did his course online for his marriage and also for the baptism of his son.
The days are gone just come along and you get what you want as we have even changed Funerals so if the deceased did not believe or want a Requiem Holy Mass then they can have a Funeral Service.
I am sure Bishop Pat would marry you within the statutory times but sadly the RCC will not even if you are a millionaire.
Courses for Baptism, Holy Communion, Reconciliation, Confirmation and Marriage and they are a must.
As for parents not wanting to educate their children in the Faith there is plenty of parish volunteers that would assist families all safeguarded protected.

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2000 years – don’t get too comfortable. What happened to Zoroastrianism …

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The Maynooth survivors need to be heard and their stories told. Killaloe needs to care for the Sems who were assualted.

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@thetimes
reports that the RC priest who married Johnson & Symonds used to be
@churchofengland
priest till 2012. It does not add that, according to RC doctrine, he never was a real priest till 2012. Former non-real priest conducts wedding of man of two former non-real marriages.(that’s from twitter).

Key takeaways from Marie collins article on Canon laws & penal code changes.

1. it’s a “very disappointing document – no zero tolerance, no mandatory reporting.”

2.clergy could be punished very severely if they did not report internally to the Church authorities, “but there was no mention whatsoever of them having to report to civil authorities so nothing has changed there sadly.

3.there are lists of penalties for various infringements and offences, but nowhere does it say they will be applied or they must be applied.

“The one that really sticks with me is, as far as abusing a child is concerned, it says that a priest can be removed from office, he can be laicised, where the case calls for it, now that wording for me means that it will be left to a judgement call to the individual bishops, how they actually punish a priest, which means you don’t have any consistency or standard across the Church.

4.Caveats “litter” the document, she said.

“If you take the headlines out of it, it looks very good, it looks as if the Church is moving on, but when you read it in detail, it’s not.”

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DG
Do not believe everything you read in the media.
Boris Johnson’s wedding was checked out by the area Bishop and was all above board.
Marie Collins has picked what she wants and that is sad because the first person to get called is not the Bishop it is the POLICE and the Priest is suspended immediately and he can be innocent but the rules are police first.
Also even if the courts and the police decide to take NO action some Bishops have guys c/0 who have been cleared by the officials but the Bishops will not let them officiate in their dioceses.
I am disappointed as I gave you credit for being kind and understanding and here is you believing what is not true.
They cannot sell papers if they put the true facts out there.
I know innocent priests who have been cleared by the courts yet the Bishops will not let them say Mass again but maybe Rome will overstep the Bishop one guy has been waiting 8 years.

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The anti-retrovirals which have changed the landscape for people with HIV, and for the possibility of transmission of the virus, is truly remarkable and welcome. However, I have a couple of reservations. For HIV people there is no option but for them to take these treatments. But, I do find the uncritical thinking about taking medication for life somewhat shortsighted. If you are taking chemicals, which have beneficial effects certainly, there is a high likelihood that they will also have some sort of negative side effect Secondly, I worry a little about how the rate of transmission which is cut dramatically by these drugs can tend to lead HIV people, and others, to believe that there is no problem and that they do not need to be cautious in how and with whom they have sex, particularly unprotected / bareback sex. There are still a good deal of other nasty things out there that can cause trouble down below ! My observation is that amongst gay men, in particular, unprotected sex is increasingly common and accepted, in great part because of the seeming protection these drugs bestow in respect of HIV. My worry is that something else will come along and do damage, even if HIV is largely tamed. In general, however, I rejoice at these treatments and wish my friends with HIV long and happy lives.

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A friend of mine in Glasgow in the early days of hiv treatment had his kidneys damaged with the drugs. Sadly he never recovered because it was trial and error medication then. I believe the medicine now has vastly improved.

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Yes, the old drugs were very toxic. The new ones are vastly improved and there are about 40 different drug options.

And now they are bringing our six-monthly injections.

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Follow on to my earlier post of 8.43am 👆

It seems to that rcc is exercising their PR proganda machine (they take a leaf out of gobbels PR machine) with half measures to tackle child abuse. I say half measure cos of no mandatory reporting to the civil authorities.

It seems to me that rcc haven’t learnt their lesson since Boston globe on Boston abuses and cardinal law.

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DG
Ireland and the UK is not really interested in what goes on abroad as in Ireland and the UK our house must be in order first.
And any abuse is taken very very serious and Thanks to Pope Francis he will kick the failing Bishops and clergy out fast tracked oh I forgot Marie did not mention that.

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Yes, best to keep using condoms.
That said there is no known case of an undetectable person transmitting the virus.
My own favourite HIV statistic is the 10% of Europeans immune to HIV because of being descended from a survivor of the plague!

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Pat please advocate for a support facility for Maynooth Survivors. The Survivors are struggling each day.

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8.51

You are infatuated to the point of obsession with one of the two people you frequently name here, you ought to arrange to meet Pat for a one-off or on a regular basis to enable you to integrate your infatuation and lead a healthy life.

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These are dangerous times. Mullaney has a hit list. Don’t worry, Pat will kept up to date on a daily basis from an undisclosed location which is beyond the reach of Mullaney and his abuse Network.

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8.51: You have a fantasy infatuation with imaginary victims. Go for therapy yourself and stop this frequent nonsense. You are a psycho and a sicko. Get help.

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The reaction to these comments is very interesting. Yes they appear every day and are dreary and I don’t think Pat should publish them.
But calling the poster a stalker, a phantasist and screaming abuse at him is gaslighting and I would say you girls learned the church way of dealing with anyone who challenges you very well at Gaynooth.

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@8.51
They struggle until they learn to let go. Life is not perfect. Life is not linear.
There is no excuse for what happened in Maynooth. But there are two reactions. Try to change the system so that it meets your expectations. Try to change your response so that nothing in the world needs to meet your expectations. The first response gives Maynooth power over you for years after you leave. The second allows you to move to a place where you can once again flourish.
Always be grateful of one thing. When you witnessed what you witnessed in Maynooth your reaction demonstrated that you did not fit in with those people. How much worse would it have been if you did? But today you need to rid yourself of the power you have chosen to give them in your life. Only you can set yourself free.

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Dear Gay on RTE last night touched on how he gave a voice to those in the wilderness. It was very sad to hear of the abuses that some people suffered. Gay Byrne shone a light on their darkness, helping them carry their crosses to a place of healing.

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Yes especially Leviticus 19:19. Many a wardrobe needs to be cleaned. The LORD has spoken.

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8:06 am– How on earth is showing support for victims and survivors of abuse infatuation?
You make no sense to me — but I’m not a Roman cleric, or an enabler, so maybe that’s the reason why.

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Pat, please, please do a blog on this nonsense, if only to stop this daily stalker saying the same creepy things. Ask the two ex-Killaloesems frequently stalked to get in touch with you if there is any case to answer or to confirm these outlandish claims, and ask the stalker why he says this stuff.

Of course, it could be an enemy of the blog posting this to make the blog look deranged.

Either way, if the stalker won’t stop writing this garbage, please would you stop publishing it, Pat?

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I don’t think so. Who would ever believe one day Sean Jones would strip off and photograph himself in a gay jockstrap. Who ever thought Pau Prior was molested and groomed by Ronan Drury. Who would ever believe one day Kevin Connolly would jump Diocese to be with his ex male lover and then cheat on him and return to Clogher. Who would ever believe one day Fr Derwin would leave Priesthood after a month to become an Icecream man selling Icecream and LGBTQ flags in a sea side area in Wexford.

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10.49: You are in need of serious therapy. You are a crazed fantasist. Get help professionally. Stop repeating your shite nonsense on this blog. I don’t care whether you’re a cleric, ex cleric or a failed seminarians – but your repeat crap is pure deranged infatuation. Get help.

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“Get help! You’re unwell! It’s all in your head! You’re in serious need of professional help! You’re a liar and a fantast!” — Reply from staff at Ashworth maximum security prison for dangerous psychopaths: “Yes, alright Rev. Canon Dr., we can hear you… please just put on this jacket and enter this padded room, that’s right!” “It’s for your’s, but more importantly, the wider public’s safety!”.

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I cannot stand Amy Martin at all.
But be assured Amy Martin will not cover up for NO one he is a careerist and desperate for a red berretta but he has competition with Archbishop Farrell.
I understand Fintan told Yvonne to contact Rome that was to make him look good for Tuam not for Yvonne he handled that shockingly.

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10.51: Is it any of your business to know the medical history of any individual? It’s outrageous that you even ask. You are a psycho. Pat, you should not have printed this idiot’s question. Out medical history is sacrosanct except when we choose to share it with others.

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Eamon Martin is in denial with the depth of abuse within his Diocese. Eugene Sweeney tried his best but backed down as he was compromised by Stephen Wilson.

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Actually 12:11, PrEp (pre-exposure prophylaxis) is not the same as taking these drugs if you have HIV already and in order to keep you alive. Neither is it the same as PEP (post exposure prophylaxis) which is taken after exposure to HIV and to prevent it taking hold. PrEp is taken by someone who does not have HIV, and wants to avoid getting it, and is sexually active in such a way that they might catch it. It is a prophylactic to prevent infection. Now, if a priest is taking PrEp under these circumstances, you do have to ask why ? There is only one explanation. This priest is sexually active. Something not right there, surely ? I’m not sure his Bishop would think this is right for a priest.

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Lol our medical history is confidential to medical professionals and disclosed on a need to know basis.
I would remind you that all of the revelations about clerical misbehaviour here are the result of their own leak or things getting into the public domain.
If someone not within the bounds of professional confidentiality knows that a priest is taking PrEP I will bet it is because the priest has told someone.
That ceases to be under confidentiality and places a duty to tell the priest’s bishop that his behaviour is not concordant with his celibacy. It is also no longer solely his own business.
The result of that would almost certainly be nothing so the person may as well just tell Bishop Pat.
In fact other people probably know, these priests are terrible gossips. In fact telling a trusted colleague you are on PrEP is akin to putting pictures of your genitals on Grindr.
I sense your outrage at this is misguided. Yes medical information is sacrosanct but that should not be used as a cloak for yet another priest leading a double life.

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You can buy PrEp online without any reference to your doctor. Comes in a brown package with no identifying marks, so could be delivered to the Presbytery / Rectory / Parochial House / Religious Community / Abbey / Priory / Cathedral House. Nobody needs to know. Wonderful !

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12.11 and 12.44: I accept that it any person is in any such medication, the people relevant to him in any relationship ought to be infirmed. I think the appropriate principles must be TRUTH and RESPONSIBILITY. Our medical information, per se, is not for public consumption nor should any person’s sexual virus illnesses be the subject of speculation or gossip or reckless conversations.

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But yesterday Seamus told us that the woman should know a priest won’t leave his holy vocation and that a priest experiencing vocational anxiety (whatever that is) can’t possibly be expected to take any responsibility. The day before an anonymous commenter told us that nuns can’t be left to run a children’s home without social workers standing by to stop them abusing the children.
You’re being very unfair to expect a priest taking prep to take any responsibility or have any regard to truth.
I mean, you wouldn’t expect him to tell his Grindr pickups his true identity would you?

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Thanks for your misrepresentation 4:31! 😉
A priest lapsing of his vow is dishonest and will rightly be criticised. A woman seeing a priest remaining a priest as a commitment to a relationship with her is silly and open to criticism too. It takes two to tango.
Enjoy your circle of fire 🔥 and have a nice evening! ☮️

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@12.11 our medical history is sacrosanct? Nonsense.
There is no such thing as absolute confidentially; that’s an urban myth.
A court of law can order disclosure of medical documents at any time. Failure to comply with su h an order constitutes contempt of court, a criminal offence punishable by imprisonment.

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@4:13 of you actually read my comment instead of leaping on here to show you’re a fool, you will see that I included that fact.
But you weren’t interested in reading it were you.
If you ever get as far as getting a law degree (unlikely) I suggest you pay attention to what people are saying to you.

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@ 4.24, no; you’re the fool, I’m afraid. You mentioned absolutely nothing of the kind, about courts’ ordering disclosure of medical documents, in the comment at 12.11.
Perhaps your short-term memory isn’t as reliable these days.

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For the slow stream:
‘disclosed on a need to know basis’.
This covers the situation you mention.
But you wouldn’t know that because you’re an idiot.

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@5.39, you are someone desperate to save face. You made a gaffe, and you know it. Calling me ‘an idiot’ won’t wipe off your face the very obvious egg there.

‘A need-to-know basis’ has no point in Law.

Need-to-know concerns the NON-JUDICIAL disclosure of information to relevant parties. A court order does not hinge on a need-to-know basis. How silly of you to suggest otherwise.

I shan’t namecall you as you did me, even though the word ‘idiot’ is a cap that would fit you very nicely indeed.

There is a very obvious lesson for you here: in future, don’t dabble in Law.

It only gets you laughed at.

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1.44pm.. Do you have any left over….and do you also sell drugs? Just wonderin!!!

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You know some remedial classes would tell you the plain meaning of the word ‘need’. Other health professionals, admin staff, paramedics, management and legal professionals need to know.
Your refusal to read information in English will present you with problems if you want a career in law, or in fact in the real world. You will find when you get to that chapter in your textbook, that there is an important legal test that hinges on what the reasonable person would do in a situation. In this situation I wrote ‘need’ to know and the categories you have mentioned need to know.
To claim they are excluded from needing to know is not only ridiculous, it shows you as a pompous idiot who can’t read.

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@ 8.49 (Sigh) If you reread my first post in this thread, you’ll see that it addresses your comment at 12.11. NOWHERE in that comment do you mention ‘need to know basis’, let alone court-order disclosures.
That cap I mentioned is fitting you even more snugly now.

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Personally I don’t think Thomas McHugh had responded well to the removal of Brendan Marshall from the Diocese.

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1.49
I will take you out of your worry as I can assure you father Thomas McHugh is more than happy and loves it in the Cathedral but hope in the Armagh that Archbishop Martin recognises his excellent MC work and official appoints him.
Armagh has No official MC and some dioceses have both Lay and clergy MC’s.
Thomas is well happy keep him in your prayers.

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Thomas McHugh and his Green Tea Parties with Stephen Wilson 🏳️‍🌈👥

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1.44: Thank You Father for that useful information. Hope you won’t be found out!! 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤…

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This business of the person or persons posting about the two seminarians and what is alleged to have been perpetrated against them in Maynooth:
If what is alleged and described actually happened to these lads they must be deeply traumatised and in great distress.
How do you – poster or posters naming them here and talking about them in this fashion – possibly think you are HELPING them or getting justice for them?
They have to be in charge of that process and seek help as they decide and see fit – not faceless individuals on the internet purporting to speak for them and about them.
What you are doing is incredibly unjust and disrespectful. It is appalling, downright immoral, entirely unethical and gravely sinful.
Do you think it is funny to talk about these two lads in this way? Do you have any concept, at all, of what it is like to be violated in such a soul destroying manner?
If they were traumatised in a room in Maynooth, then you are further traumatising them, ever time you post about them and bandy their names about.
What you are doing in shameful and inhuman. So stop it and get a life. If what is claimed did actually happen to the young seminarians, then they need help and justice.
They do not need a troll describing the crimes they suffered in pornographic detail and with seeming relish, whilst pretending to “care”.

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Has it struck you that you may be talking to one of them and they are also not helped by being berated by you?
You could have taken the trouble to phrase what you meant in a polite way and you could also have sent Pat a polite email explaining your reasons you don’t think he should enable those comments.

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5.43: You should jystvshutbup at this stage. If you are TRULY concerned about the “abused” seminarians irvwhoever, go to the Gardai. Stop messing around with these guys….you are a stalker. You frequently come on this site saying the same thing. Get professional help if necessary.

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As regards you, at 5:43pm, I am pretty certain I am “talking” to a supreme maker of mischief driven by malice. Cop yourself on.

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‘We’? As in ‘we are legion’? Or we as in the queen? Or a queen in your case.
As it happens I am not the supposed stalker.
But now I’m wondering what you did in Maynooth that you don’t want to come out. Presumably something beyond the gay sex and bitching we have come to expect. Something that would give you problems. Something illegal?

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I agree. However, it must be said that regardless of this strange individual stalking these two lads, the responsibility of Pat to ensure fair comment is not being taken seriously. This commenter is abusing those guys by dragging their names around. But Pat moderates these comments and decides- for reasons known to himself- to publish them- so he shares the responsibility. I suspect he will not publish my comment as this blog is too often an echo chamber. . As you said, these commenter are doing something which is “appalling, downright immoral, entirely unethical and gravely sinful.” B ut is not Pat doing the same thing by allowing the comments to be published. I have long been a supporter of yours Pat but you are thrown these young lads to the wolves and that is very unfair of you.. You are- quite frankly- playing into the hands of your enemies and behaving like a troll.

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Armagh justice is damage control. Rape is Rape. Torture is Torture. Their poor wrists with the Whip lash.

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Pat your sources are in grave danger. Several Priests and Seminarians feel they are being watched and under threat.

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