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FATHER GABRIEL SLATTERY RIP.

Fr Gabriel Slattery was buried yesterday in Mount Merrion parish in Dublin. Archbishop Dermot Farrell was present.

But Fr Slattery disappeared off the radar in 2007 after finished as PP of Clontarf. Thats 14 years.

Then in 2016, someone put it on my blog that he was an aromatherapy masseur in a private sports injury clinic.

That would suggest that he had left the priesthood behind him?

I never heard of an active priest being a masseur of any kind.

But then he dies and he gets a full prorsts funeral with the archbishop presiding.

What arrangement had Diarmuid Martin come to with Gay Slattery?

When a priest leaves active ministry early ( and Gay was only 63 ) it would be normal for his situation to be addressed by either voluntary or imposed laicization.

But it seems Gay’s situation was allowed to drift?

Why? We are entitled to ask.

Was Gay’s someone’s favourite?

Was he “protected”?

THE PREACHER AT THE FUNERAL

The preacher at yesterday’s funeral was a John Daly, a friend of Gay’s for 42 years apparently.

John Daly playing games

I noticed his white sneakers sticking out under his alb.

Why do so many priests dress so badly for Mass, funerals and weddings?

Everybody else in the church yesterday was dressed for a funeral. Its just respect!

I thought the sermon was very “new age traveller”.

He spoke about sharing Eucharist with Gay – but rarely in a church – on a balcony or in a garden.

And about Gay exploring other world religions.

He spoke about Gay keeping his medical condition a secret for years – even from his close family and friends.

All very strange.

Maybe there is an ordinary explanation to all this?

But I smell a fair whif of cover-up.

166 replies on “FATHER GABRIEL SLATTERY RIP.”

I’ve never known a priest do it but the Cistercian nuns of Marienkron in Austria have been doing massages for some time, to the despair of the trad media – httpss://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A202rcMassageNun.htm
I have to admit I couldn’t remember where these nuns were and innocently searched for nun and massage. Not a mistake I’ll be making again! 🤢

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What is aroma therapy ? is it different to massage? I agree about the white runners, they are ok for tennis though and I think Fr Slattery was a member of Clontarf Tennis Club when he was PP there, in fact he was captain or something like that. I think black shoes should be worn for funerals. the white runners are just tacky. very Ballymunesque

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I don’t think aromatherapy automatically means massage, it’s a alternative remedy using smell. An aromatherapy massage would include the smelly bit with the touchy bit.

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Ref the NDA denied by one Father Connolly on 17.8.16 and subsequently published by you, a few of other denominations’ “christian organisations” are beginning to announce disapproval of those . . .

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The peace of those on the other side is not disturbed by what happens here.
Im more interested in those who handled Gay’s situation than I am n him.

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8.40: Liar: Lies and Lying…You couldn’t give a shit about Catholic priests, dead or alive. You’ve spent yoyr whole life making a living out of crushing clerics. Judgment, condemnation, vengeance and vindictiveness are your DNA…..A poisonous person you are indeed, Pat, underneath that smug, ugly demeanour. God rest the soul of Fr. Slattery. And God help you….

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How has Pat made a living out of crushing clerics? I thought he made his living marrying people?

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I have never received any money for my blog.

In fact, I pay a monthly fee to keep it going.

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Father at 9:36 is obviously frightened his own little secrets will appear on here. When you do I hope your rebuttal is every bit as waspish as your every comment here.

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What's so special about priests that they can't just retire and not do ministry anymore....?says:

If somebody leaves active ministry, does that necessarily mean that they should be returned to the lay state ? Or should it just mean that their faculties should lapse or be withdrawn ? I think the latter. Sadly, we still hang on to this nonsense notion of the extra specialness of ordination that means that a priest is always a priest and must continue as a priest for the rest of his life. Rather than what happens to everybody else in the world – you have a vocation, a calling, a profession, a job, but there comes a time when you don’t carry that out anymore, and you go off in to another way of life and being, usually called retirement ! But somehow, some still seem to think that unless a priest dies with his boots on, or stays within the fold (which usually is the case because the economic system of the Church pretty much ensures that a priest is still financially reliant on the Church, even in retirement, and has few other options), then there is something wrong, or that he has run away, or that he is doing something he shouldn’t be doing. Couldn’t it just be that the priest has decided to lay down ministry and move on with other aspect of his life – like looking after himself, enjoying life, experiencing new things, settling down, quietening down – just like the rest of humankind does ?!

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The policy for priests who leave ministry needs to be consistent. Why are some laicised through an administrative process and some kept on the books?

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I guess the legal cases on vicarious liability have spurred dioceses onto remove priests from the clerical state who have left ministry. They have no ongoing financial responsibility to them, and can not be held liable for their actions once they have been removed from the clerical state. I imagine insurers would be very keen to have a clear idea of the ‘risk’ they are being asked to cover.

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But, on what grounds does a diocese / bishop /insurers have to remove someone from the clerical state just because they do not carry out active ministry anymore ? Retire them, yes, remove faculties / license to practise, yes…..but saying they are a priest no more just isn’t proportionate. A doctor or a solicitor who does not practice anymore may well let their license to practice go, but nobody is going to say they are not a doctor or a solicitor anymore, just that they don’t practice. There is a logical inconsistency here, as well, given that the Church in its theology of priesthood lays great emphasis, and defends, the fact that someone once a priest is “a priest forever”. Go talk to seminarians and listen to their high flowing theology of the sacrament they are training to receive ! They think an awful lot of priesthood. Just undermining that when it suits the Church in order to cover their own arses and to manage risk, seems inconsistent and disproportionate. In addition, bear in mind that there are so many priests out there supported by dioceses and still technically priests, although not practising, who are in that position because of some inappropriate, even criminal, behaviour usually regarding safeguarding. Why are they not automatically liaicised and removed from the clerical state if the Church is going to be consistent, and wants to remove ‘retired’ and ‘non practising’ priests from the clerical state. Sounds to me as though the Church just wants to cherry pick what suits them, when they want. Not impressive.

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Removing them from the clerical state does not mean they are no longer priests. In some ways it shares the same traits as being “struck off” as a doctor or solicitor in that they are no longer considered a doctor or solicitor and may never practice again unless they are readmitted. Yet, a priest who is removed from the clerical state is still permitted to administer the sacrament of the sick and hear confessions in very exceptional circumstances.

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without the HOLY PRIESTS there is no HOLY GOD we should always sometimes ssay thanks to the HOLY GOD for these men because HE would not exist

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Another laughable comment from the Holy Gid 😍 man himself!
But this one is priceless: to manage contradictions in consecutive words.
” He should ALWAYS SOMETIMES say……”
What kind if eejit are you@ 9:07.

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Yesterday, Bp Pat, you noted, “He disappeared very suddenly 20 years ago as a relatively young man.” Of course, that was long before your blog. I don’t think that sort of thing would go unnoticed nowadays without featuring on the blog.

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Pat if he disappeared from the church 14 years ago and the picture dates from before then how old must he have been and still working? He looks like he could easily be of retirement age in that picture, poor guy.

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Presumably, that was also before you became the most famous blogger in Ireland.

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There seems to be a bit of a mystery surrounding the late departed. If you cannot get to the bottom of it, Bp Pat, then no one can.

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It is good you have now caught up with the story, Bp Pat, better late than never. Readers will be agog, as usual.

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What story are you all looking for or what story would you moment I write about Fr. Slsttery? Go 8n Buckley, be a big man and tell us or are you just being a nasty old queen in pink??

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I think that + Pat has uncovered a legitimate concern here. Priests who go MIA for more than five years, and decide to pursue a career outside of the church should be removed from the clerical state. It could be that Gay had a death bed conversion and asked to be reconciled, in which case this should have been referenced at his funeral. At the moment it seems arbitrary as to those who are put forward for removal from the clerical state, and those who are allowed to remain on the books.

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To top up whatever income he had perhaps, or maybe as a hobby or something to do? Pat I guarantee that if you offered retirement with a pension at 63 to priests in Ireland or the UK you would be swamped with applications.

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When was his name taken off the Dublin website ? Are retired priests normally removed from the clergy list or was it a disciplinary action or part of a penalty ?

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His name has not been on the the diocesan website for some time. He still gets a priests funeral with the archbishop and moderator of the curia present.

Why was his funeral not celebrated by the PP or a priest friend?

Was it a “controlled’ funeral?

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Why is there a special funeral for priests? Doesn’t this support Magna’s contention that priests believe themselves superior to ordinary Catholics?

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I imagine Fr Brian D’Arcy would not miss out on a funeral like this too, Bp Pat.

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Who celebrated the funeral mass ? Was it not the pp or a priest friend of the deceased aroma therapist

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No. It was one of DMs favourites, Monsignor Paul Callan, the Moderator of the Curia in Dublin – a would be auxiliary bishop.

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Yes they will have buried him in vestments, placed the chalice, paten and stole on his coffin etc, they used to bury them facing east too. They should have put his aromatherapy oils on top of the coffin for good measure too….

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DIARMUID MARTIN used to attend the arrival of the remains on the evening before the funeral and always kissed the priest’s coffin.

One Dublin PP said he wanted to be buried face down in his coffin ⚰️ so that DM would be kissing his ass.

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9.56, that is exactly what it betokens, a very special service because priests consider themselves to be very special people.

Yesterday, one poster tried to convince readers that the notion of ontological change meant neither superiority nor inferiority. Oh, yeah! Then why are priests given more elaborate funeral services than the laity?

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If a stole, etc, are placed on the coffin, by rights some priests should have their butt plugs on their coffin.

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And of course priests, being ontologically special, have to be given specially prominent graves too, well away from the parishioner plebs. Notice this especially where the graveyard is attached to the church. In Leitrim Co Down several dead PPs graves are all prominently together and separate on the way up to the more recent parishioners’ graves. In Banbridge an ex PP’S grave is just outside the church front door. It’s the same nearly everywhere.
What’s your own plans +Pat

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9.38, not only all of that, but if you readanniversary lists of parish dead, priests and religious are always at the top.
Yesterdays poster to the contrary about priests, ontological change, and status vis a vis the laity wss talking a load of claptrap.

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It is abundantly clear that the church has to be faced with the consequences of its actions – because they ain’t going to get the message any other way.
However since it is just as clear that the hierarchy value privilege, power and money over anything else, and are quite happy to protect their resources with whatever means necessary (after all we are talking of men who thought nothing of covering up literal crime) another remedy has to be sought.
It is very clear that the only thing that will make the church behave is mandatory reporting with significant prison terms for violation and no statute of liability.
Throughout the time this has been going on child sexual abuse has been illegal but bishops have got away with not reporting because it is not illegal not to.
You would be a fool to look to any of these men for moral guidance. And a bigger fool to belong to this disgraced organization, yet alone give money to it.

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Very striking phrasing in a headline in the Independent.
‘Birmingham Archdiocese let children be abused’https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/catholic-church-child-sex-abuse-birmingham-archdiocese-paedophile-priests-a8967426.html?amp
Nichols if you read this you can burn in hell you bastard.
And all you priests out there – for your information the headline above undoes any good work you claim to do.

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I wonder if former clergy who find work as masseuses results in a ‘happy ending’ or a ‘reach under’ as our American cousins might say.
Nudge, Nudge, Wink Wink, O You Are Awful But I Like You.

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11.21: Yiu’re easily amused Bucks…you are a like a Peruvian mountain scavenger picking over the remains of the dead. Immoral. Repulsive. Utterly reprehensible and ignorant. You are very devious attempting to suggest a “story” of some kind. Revolting.

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11 37: No, never been to Peru but love nature programmes and live Peruvian music, art and culture. Having watched the tactics of the Peruvian scavengers rip flesh to pieces for food, you behave like that with clerics, dead or alive. If you have “information” or a “story”, share them. Otherwise you are engaging in gossip, hearsay and speculation. Have courage to tell the “story”…

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I love nature programmes too.

Sometimes stories can be told at once.

At other times they have to be teased out.

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Well I’ve been to Peru: walked Inca Trail three days to Maccu Pichu and stayed with natives in their village and floating reed islands on Lake Titicaca. Great trip.
Thinking back, watching black vultures circling scavenging for prey puts me in mind now of other black ⚫🤔😳😐😕😅⚫ ever looking out for the main chance too!

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Papal Nuncio met victims of child abuse in Birmingham – he said he’d tell Francis all about their suffering etc – poor things, good luck with that – hierarchy’s are getting more slick at saying sorry, repenting, saying how awful it is, etc etc but the crunch is – child rape is criminal and the organisation that enabled, facilitated and hushed it up now needs to pay with the hard earned cash of lay people – money on 5 years down the line the victims who met with the nuncio are no far forward in their quest for justice and discover nothing but obsfucation, resistance, double speak and manipulation.
Most nuncios are practising and active homosexuals and they have plenty of skeletons in their closets – as the closet is where they love to be

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Seamus I hope you read this : I’ve been thinking about a couple of conversations you’ve had on here recently. It seems to me that you have said something but other people have understood something different and it feels like people are twisting your meaning. Yesterday I honestly couldn’t see the meaning you could in Magna’s comment from the day before.
I would hate to think that somebody contributing here would feel like that about it – I honestly don’t think either side in either of these was deliberately misunderstanding.
Can I ask you just to be aware this is happening?
And can I suggest to readers if it feels like one of Seamus’s comments is objectionable just to say how you understand it and ask him what he means?
Seamus if this feeling that people are twisting your meaning is happening here it is likely to happen in the rest of your life as well, and it’s a horrible feeling. If you want to you could look for some courses locally that help with this. People who do those courses often find they open up other opportunities as well.
Best wishes.

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Because a vow had lapsed and some woman tempted him in his vocational anxiety.
Leviticus 19:19

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There are rights and wrongs on both sides. The scourging of the padre just seems disproportionate. Mob rule seems to be taking over in abusing the wayward padre.
The woman was treated disgracefully too. There was a nasty reaction to her social media post. People should have been more understanding of her too. She made mistakes.

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2.03 he is anxious because he isn’t a priest for ever any more as was his “desserts”, is what you’ve said.
11.43 has some nice advice, I second it.

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11.43

Shammy boy isn’t the brightest.

It isn’t that readers misunderstand him; it’s that he deliberately moves the goalposts when he knows he’s lost an argument.

He’s a sneaky one, is Shammy boy.

A perfect Cathbot. Dishonest and thick. 😀

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1.57: I’d prefer him to be sneaky than “SNAKEY” like you, Magna, you poisonous viper!! Seamus is a more likeable and more decent human being and has a moral compass.

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I looove being kind to trolls on the internet and when they do things like that 👆

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Ooh you hit a nerve there Magna.
It’s funny how these people use the phrase moral compass which indicates direction. Magna is remarkably consistent in direction rather than continually changing like Chamois does.

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11.43: What a barrel full of garbage. You need to learn how to properly construct sentences and a little logic. This is an inane, silly comment.

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6:00
Really? Your post indicates you are the last person to try to call out others for their defective sentence construction.
You can start by not splitting an infinitive. You probably don’t even know what is being referred to here.
Where ignorance is bliss it’s folly to be wise.

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11.53: Buckkey, you engaged in this kite flying re: Fr. Slattery. Appaling behaviour. You are obviously leaving it to others to write a narrative for you, the more sinister, the better for you. This is so morally reprehensible to do this on his famy in their grief. You and your cohort of mischief makers are morally bankrupt. May God be merciful to Fr. Slattery.

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The People of God have a right to know the canonical status of their priests. Ambiguity helps no one.

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The law says the people have no rights, only duties to their appointed pastor’s. Pax.

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You and yours can no longer stop us asking questions about the dark underbelly of the RCC.

It’s a free country, with free speech and the freedom of the media.

You can no longer silence us.

You are the morally bankrupt ones – and we are just exposing your bankruptcy.

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Where is bishop ‘shagger’ con man Conory? He is on the website of the bishops’ conference as retired. Did they send him for therapy?

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IF THE RCC ARE BURYING BODIES why should some of us not find the bodies and tell the People where they are buried?

Maybe we are BODY FINDERS?

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I think those who leave, remove themselves from active ministry, the diocesan directory and website, and have no recourse to church funds deserve privacy. But if they are still being held out as a priest or bishop then they are public figures, and we have a right to know where they are and what they are doing.

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Totally reasonable at 4:01.
The others would like to forget that clergy are public figures. In fact if you’re a priest your private life should be limited to friends, your mum, and any hobbies.

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Unless they like doing it in public, Shammy boy.
Father’s little needs have to be met!

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Yes, I agree totally. I left of my own volition and was removed within hours from the diocesan website and had no recourse to financial support from the diocese. I’m not bitter about any of that though, I just went off and got myself a job and a wife, much like any normal person would do. Of course, most presbyters couldn’t get married to a woman as they’re not that way inclined😂😂 So yes, fellows who leave honourably so should be left alone to get on with their lives!!

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Anon @ 10:30: A very sensible honest sounding comment. And amidst all the other garbage, it’s good go read your good sense. Thank you

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The Canons of the Chapter know where the bodies are buried – v likely in some dioceses literally – bloody hell in Birmingham Fr Patrick Fell was planning a bombing campaign (Holy Souls Coventry if you must know).
Plus they know which clergy got a woman pregnant and then insisted she have an abortion (way more common than we think) and guess who paid for it? Yes the priest or hey I’m sure the diocese would help out.
Vicar Generals, Deans, Auxiliary Bishops, Treasurers, Curial Staff are all complicit in burying the body and then keeping stum.
It’s a dogs dinner – clericalism is a cancer and it infects everyone who bows down to it and key is Omertà.
Very similar to da Mafia – keepa your mouth shut.

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The private sports clinic is owned by the Bon Secours Nuns. They directly employed the aroma therapists.

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WTF. Why is any hospital employing aroma therapists. And why on earth are Catholics Nuns employing Hindu bases smelly oil massage maggots

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4:04 a private hospital may use complementary therapy because people have the mistaken idea it will help. For most of them there is no evidence for any effect beyond the placebo effect. Unfortunately people like all sorts of nonsense which doesn’t work and may even be harmful, such as acupuncture, Chinese traditional medicine, osteopathy and Roman Catholicism.

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6.10
ROMANIST Catholicism is virtually a soul’s death warrant, its priests the issuing officers. 😱

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It would be great to do a blog on Bishop Kieran Conry – the clergy in Arundel and Brighton and Birmingham knew exall about his whereabouts/ his dear Mum lives in Coventry but you’d rarely get a clergy member to disclose things like:
Where is he living?
Has he got a woman or several in tow?
Who pays his rent or mortgage?
Did he get a bishops pension?
Did he seek laicisation?
Does he have any kids?
Does he minister in a parish?
Does he say Mass?
Does he have clerical friends or did they do as they usually do and desert him?
We’re any of the women he hurt and explored compensated?
Is he a humbler more chastened man now or an arrogant conceited toss pot like he used to be?
The clergy love secrets it’s binds them together and makes them feel special. Ah bless.

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He is listed on the bishops conference website as retired, although still only 70 so younger than some PPs, and so the sheep will be paying for him and the church will say everything else is none of their business. 😅
Stop paying these clowns ffs.

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His original dioceses of A & B purchased a house for him in Portsmouth where he is living quietly and comfortable.
He is NOT liaised
The story is similar to Ger and Yvonne..

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Shagger Conroy was made to feel special from an early age whilst at Cotton college as a junior seminarian. Then even more so when he was sent to the Venereal College, Rome and then to 54 Parkside to please the eye of a raving homo nuncio, before being exalted to cathedral dean. So special that the ordinary rules of celibacy didn’t apply to him…

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Kieran Conroy?
Eddie Clare?
John Gilbert?
Graham Gilman (Clifton)
Peter Norton?
James Feeley?
There are like John Stott, Minister of War in Thatchers Cabinet – Here today, gone tomorrow ((as Robin Day usurer to say).
How much does it cost to train a priest? £50,000-£100,000?
They say over, way over, 100,000 have left since the Council – imagine the financial loss that represents- staggering really and scandalous and embarrassing.

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You could even say that much of what has happened since the council has been an atrocious waste of resources – new liturgical books, new vestments, wreckovating churches…
You literally cannot believe anything the church says and any stated concern for the environment is rubbish when so many new editions of the missal keep coming out.

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Would you mind being specific about “so many new editions” how many have you come across. The sisters here are confused. We bought one in the 1980’s, I think it was when mother Gertrude was alive so that would make it before May 1982. her successors Mother Angela, and Mother Mary Francis didn’t buy any and it was Sr. Francis Joseph who bout the one that replaced the one Mother Gertrude bought back in sometime in the early 1980’s. Sr. Francis Joseph only bought the new one in 2014 when Bishop Henry was coming to visit and we wanted a the new one, as well as a new set of garden furniture, which fell apart after four years. The missal which we’ve been using for the last 7 years has lasted almost twice as long. We didn’t replace the garden furniture we just use the kitchen chairs whenever we have the time or inclination to sit in the garden on Sundays or feast days. Anyway I think you are confused with your “so many new editions” since the 1966 I think there have been 3, not too bad for over 60 years. God bless your family, we will add your intentions to our prayer list in case you need them.

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Well.
If you go back to the sixties there was at least 1962, 1965, various additions of the old rite.
With a new holy week book up to then you could be using a breviary published in 1910 and a missal published in 1570.
After the council you may have got the new missal in Latin, then the ICEL translation. The lectionary changed direction on the way so you would have RSV and JB lectionaries.
Soon you will have the ESV lectionary and yet another new missal in addition to the dewfall one.
When you add all the repeat purchases of books by the people it’s wild.
Incidentally if you’re a cathbot trying to take the piss you’ve failed because the reality I list here is just as ridiculous as your spoof version, so stick it up your wimple.

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Oh my, oh my, I’m sorry to upset you, you said “since the council” I presumed you meant the most recent one. But it appears you have to go back to the 1570’s ( when our dear founders was a child) to support you argument. Also I was referring to “so many new additions of the missal keep coming ” I was not referring to the lectionary , Breviary, or even Hymn books (which you forgot to mention) . Mother always said that I was to exacting. Anyway good night, and its a long long while since anyone in our congregation wore a wimple. I wonder what wee stone you have been hiding under. Sr. Mary Francis says it can’t be the stone of destiny as it only returned here in November 1996 and there are no wee whirlies to be found under it. You go rest now and calm yourself with some warm milk. and Ive decided not to put you on our prayer list as I don’t think the Lord himself would be bothered by a wee whirlie like yourself.

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Father proving how much time they have on their hands by making spoof posts here 😀
It’s remarkable, Fr Cotton College had time to keep posting yesterday and this clown does today.
Magna always says, what is it he calls you….

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You lost that argument, Sr Mary FitzAnyone. Didn’t you? It would account for your self-defensive sarcasm.
We’ll look the other way to spare your blushes.

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Sr Mary Francis has since reverted to her baptismal. She is now (or once again) Sister Roxanne.

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A comment above mentioned that the policy about priests who leave needs to be consistent. Totally right of course, but I think there’s a misunderstanding about the church’s policy. When you know that the church’s policy is always ‘the bishi will do what they damn please unless forced to do something else by the law or if you owe a cardinal a favor to help your career and everyone else can sod off’, the consistency of the policy becomes clear.

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5.27
Each Bishop is responsible for His Dioceses.
There are Bishops Conferences rules that they all try to follow but each decides whats best for his own dioceses.
Killaloe has their Sabbatical policy on their web site only dioceses in Ireland and the UK to do that.
As for clergy leaving Pope Francis has brought in this five year rule so we will see how many Bishops use it for their MIA, C/o clergy.
It has been said time and time again many Bishops are compromised.

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5.23: You’ve tried it obviously, you dangerous pervert. You deserve whatever virus you pick up. You clown.

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Has Rawhide Purcell had an HIV test ? I think he should after all his barebacking activities. Or, in addition, he could have caught a whole menu of other things from sticking his dongle where the sun don’t shine. It’s guys like Purcell, who are untested, but active and barebacking, who are the greatest at risk of HIV and of passing it on to others. They either don’t understand the risks, or they just ignore them, and carry on in sublime ignorance, but most importantly not only put themselves at risk but are putting others at significant risk as well. So, Father Abbot OCSO, go and get an HIV test. You can even get them posted to you to do at home in privacy. JFDI ! Just F**king Do It !

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When will priests realise that to most of us they are becoming increasingly irrelevant ? All this stuff about whether they are priests or not, whether they have been liacised or not, whether they are active or not, whether they are MIA or not……it all pales in to insignificance when put against all the other issues that we lay people have to contend with. We don’t say too much, but we watch what is happening, and listen, and by and large we have grown beyond the gossip and scandals of the clergy. I just wish that they would realise this, especially some of the young ones who seem so content with themselves and up their own backsides with their own importance and significance and value. People go to Mass to be at Mass, not to be an adjunct to the priest’s own personality cult and sense of his own worth. He is merely a functionary, a facilitator. He is not, no matter what he or the Church thinks, in persona Christi. He should not and cannot get in the way of my being in touch with Christ. Actually, he is pretty irrelevant to what is going on, except that he presides and leads. And if he has some wit and sense about him we will listen to his preaching and whatever elucidation he gives about the scriptures. But, usually it’s pretty thin fare from most priests, who have better things to do evidently than spend time preparing a well researched, well thought out, and well delivered sermon. We usually get whatever he’s thought up ten minutes before. Other than that he just needs to keep out of the way, and wind in his neck and diminish his sense of self-importance. Phew, I’m mighty glad I got that off my chest !

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“We don’t say too much”… but you did!
“other issues that we lay people have to contend with.” 🤔 You wrote a lot but you skipped by here. What are you contending with?

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Seamus at 9.47, but you didn’t say enough today, did you? Whst about all those questions asked of you today? Were you too frighted to answer any of them? Or just too stupid to understand them?
It’s one or the other.

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Anon 11:45, why do you comment in such an undignified manner? Bishop Pat pays good money allowing us to comment for free. If you do not want a conversation about what is right, I’ll scroll on as we are all entitled to do.

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My Good God, Pat, you certainly surpass yourself in facilitating the most hate filled venomous tirades against Catholic Priests..It is shameful that you encourage the hatred. Most priests are only too well aware of the cumulative effects of church scandals on our integrity, credibility and modern day relevance. We question the very viability of priesthood as presented. The commenter at 7.30 shocks me by the harshness of the comment. It’s expressed very forcibly and while I disagree with the dismissive, condescending tones, the substance is accurate. Truthfully, I know we are at a major low moment of demoralisation. We are aware of modern, pluralist and liberal thinking on many moral issues: we are aware that people in general create their own moral boundaries and beliefs, their own spiritual path or choose the way of non belief. For too long the Church relied on the power and position it had in society in preserving moral beliefs (Catholic) and became obsessed with any (sinful) deviation from its moral teachings. Webknow what this brought about! The Church as an institution fought harshly, aggressively and incompassionately towards those who were unable to find their own or a more relevant narrative for living. Apart from exceptional Catholic heroes and heroines who actually lived the gospel, the Church promulgated all too unkindly and unforgivingly towards many people. The results of its own shameful moral failings and criminal behaviour and abuse of power are evident to see. It protected itself instead of living courageously and radically the teachings of Christ. The gospel must always be the basis and foundation of our integrity in ministry. The witness we are called to give was compromised at the expense of self protection. The challenge to be rightly relevant is an Everest to climb. Readapting and readjusting to modern day expectations, if they exist at all, apart from the “rituals”, is sometimes too much and seems beyond us. Genuinely, though many of us care about the crisis, we’re unsure of the ground we stand on. It feels like we’re sinking into quicksand and we have no saviours or lifelines !! Yet, each day I trust in God to help me through ministry. There’s a perception that if priests try to engage in meaningful dialogue about priesthood, ministry and the difficulties we are in and the need for help to get through, we are self absorbed. That’s very unhelpful. For those for whom the church as a community of God’s people matters, respectful and intelligent debate is preferable to damning all of us.

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What a wonderful job you are doing of challenging the ongoing church abuse, crime and corruption! At last, the good priest we have all been looking for!

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9.07
I’d be more impressed with your confessio (and, yes, I am somewhat impressed with its frankness) if it weren’t dulled by self-pity.
Pity for priests can come only on foot of ministerial reform, personally most of all. But there is no such improvement, even in the offing.
What are YOU doing, openly and publicly, to agitate for such reform? Nothing at all, I suspect. Like the rest of your tough-talking colleagues.
Huddling in hushed sedition with fellow priests does not cut the mustard, Father. Nor will it bring you the pity and fairness you believe you deserve. Nothing but bold acts of rebellion by priests against a complacent episcooate can hope to change anything now.
Where your bishops are concerned, you priests, the lot of you, aren’t so much wolves in sheeps’ clothing, but just sheep themselves: too ready to obey orders to protect yourselves from reprisals.
You are not of Christ, any of you, since his spirit is not one of timidity.

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Magna 9:51, such unnecessary hatred. Priests have answered the call of Jesus just as the disciples did. You responded to a comment of dignity with drivel.

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7.55
Because you don’t understand my comment, Shammy boy, doesn’t make it drivel; it just means that there is not a lot going on upstairs in you.

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@9:07: …….But if your whole set of beliefs, your “raison d’etre ” is an absolute load of hogwash, insubstantial beliefs unfounded in reality and promulgated by your discredited RCC hierarchy for their own benefit…….what then is your relevance? Isn’t it time those of you , especially the younger ones plagued by doubts just “jumped ship?”
MMM

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10.19: MMM- I never used the word “hogwash”..nor did I infer that my beliefs are “insubstantial”….I struggle certainly but I keep redefining what is essential in remaining true to the gospel of Christ, which, for me, is the only foundation on which to build a relevant ministry. An unquestioned faith is not a real faith..Even the disciple Thomas doubted but he still decided that following Jesus was meaningful. I accept your philosophical view of life: I don’t always agree with you but I would never be so condescendingly dismissive towards you. Openness to all thought processes, religious beliefs and philosophies of life is conducive to tolerance and respect. “Jumping ship” is not my option. I navigate my way meaningfully (through God’s grace).

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@11:01: I didn’t say you used the word “hogwash”, nor did I make any claim about what you believe. I asked “what if…..?”
Are you just avoiding the question?
MMM

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9.07pm
Have one question for you, did you challenge your Bishop as regards to the abuses?
I would or might suspect that you didn’t challenge your bishop cos he might send you away to far flung remote place.
You might be offended by 7.30pm but it’s an outsider perspective a cold reality that you might not like it. Thought it was a good comment especially from outside as opposed to insider or clingy clerical perspective.
Its quite obvious that this blog brings all sorts of posters including hatred. That is + pat perogative to allow comments as such. God will determine it when it’s right.

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Why have A&B bought a house for shagger Conroy in Portsmouth when was forced to resign for sexual misconduct? Surely it’s a misuse of charitable funds? If a doctor or lawyer was forced to resign for misconduct then they would be out on their ear to fend for themselves.

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Seamus, a number of questions have been asked of you today, but you didn’t answer even one of them. Why?

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Anon 9:18! 😉
Anon 9:45, as other comment makers have said, you are the troll. You could partake in a conversation about what is right or you could just scroll on.

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Seamus, why aren’t you answering the questions asked of you?
Why are you running away, like a child?😉

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And Mr. Scavenger Buckley hasn’t been able to find his “story” yet!!! I’ll pray that God will heal you of your poison while you sleep.

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