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PRIEST ABUSER TONY WALSH TO BE RELEASED FROM PRISON THIS YEAR.

One of the worst priest pardophiles, Tony Walsh is due to be released from prison this year after 16 years locked up.

It is estimated that he abused hundreds of children.

He raped one boy with a crucifix!

The Archdiocese of Dublin did not report Walsh to the Gardai for 17 years after discovering he was a child abuser!

In 1989 the archdiocese was going to appoint him to the marriage tribunal which only dealt with annulments and sepetating couples

But there was already two paedophile priests working in the Dublin marriage tribunal – Father Ivan Payne and a man names “Fr Cicero” in the official report into Dublin.

Payne

Payne went to prison for four and a half years.

AND LISTEN TO THIS

He is still a priest, was never laicized, and still has accomodation and a yearly salary from the archdiocese of Dublin.

Cardinal Connell lent his 30,000 to pay compensation to one of his victims!

Connell

“Father Cicero”, who was 63 when he died in 2002, was the chaplain of an inner-city parish.

In the mid-1980s he would invite young girls back to his house. He had a personal computer and was an expert programmer.

He developed a computer programme that commanded the girls to remove their socks and tops, to kiss each other and to kiss him.

He also built a swimming pool in his back garden to attract children.

Complaints were finally referred to gardai in April 2002, but the priest had died before an investigation could take place.

PAT SAYS

Is it not mindblowing and staggering to think of a Christian and a priest abusing a child….but using a CRUCIFIX to rape and abuse them !!!

I cane across a case like this myself in a convent in Newry. A religious order priest was invited in by the nuns to minister to the girls.

The priest based himself in the convent parlour and a nun guarding the door pushed girl after girl into the priest.

The priest penetrated all the girls vaginas with a crucifix.

On the way out the smiling nun asked each girl: “Did you enjoy your time with Father”.

Its simply Satanic.

WALSH

Walsh is now 67.

He could live another 20 years.

Is he a danger to children?

He’s bound to be.

Unlike Payne he is no longer a priest and will not get a church property to live in or a salary – at least I hope not!

But do you ever reall know?

WHAT DO READERS THINK SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE TONY WALSH?

ARE THEY EVER SAFE?

102 replies on “PRIEST ABUSER TONY WALSH TO BE RELEASED FROM PRISON THIS YEAR.”

He has a fat distinctive face I am sure justice will prevail when he is released. I am surprised he made it out of prison alive. Must have been protected 24/7 on the nonce wing.

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10.11
That is terrible.
Paedophiles should be in entirely separate prisons, or in compounds within a prison.

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There have been some experiments in the US of putting paedophiles in separate communities together away from children. They’ve had some good success because the paedos exert peer pressure on each other. There isn’t really anything that works with them though.
For clerical abusers I think the church should be forced to house them. They can always manage to find an executive detached house for a wayward bishop who hasn’t gone to prison. If, say, empty rooms at Collegeville, caused by the precipitate decline in vocations, were used they would hardly notice. In fact the guest paedos wouldn’t be in much different position from the monk paedos!
An electric fence would stop them escaping.
If Seamus actually is a Benedictine they could get him in to give them conferences.

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Many debates have centred around the response we should or shouldn’t give to perpetrators of heinous crimes after their release from prison. This issue has caused much anxiety, retraumatisation and pain for victims/survivors. What do we do? Do we act as a lynch mob? Are we to set up vigilante groups? I really feel that both government and church have to respond more responsibly so that no further abuse or crimes are committed. Rapists who are freed send shockwaves of anger and anxiety to the victims. Victims feel abused again when perpetrators are freed. I know I would be very angry but I’m not sure what the right response should be. I certainly would not want to be physically close in any way to my abuser after their release from prison.

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10.14: A very laudable approach Pat. I too have encountered sex abusers and have counselled them spiritually. A very difficult dilemma but the mercy of God must pertain in my heart iat all times in my work.

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10.48

Mercy and prudence.

Mercy alone in humans can wax too sentimentality short-sighted.

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“Prudence is that virtue by which bold men make right decisions”. Thomas Aquinas.

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I have read in a previous post some time ago that you have counselled some in Larne. Could you explain what the difference is between you helping in Larne and the RC church doing the same thing? It is a difficult dilemma.
Personally speaking, I believe that any SERIAL sex offender (be it with a minor or adult) should never be allowed out of prison. Nobody is safe. It is all very well saying that when they are old age pensioners they should be allowed out. NEVER, if they have served a sentence, what do they know about modern life with ever changing technology and attitudes. I am reminded of the London black cab driver who was a serial predator. They should never be allowed out.

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Only in January 1996 was a decree issued by the Vatican confirming that Walsh had been “dismissed from the clerical state”. Extract from news.
‘Hes probably on the same level as brendan Smyth’ per the report.
First I heard of him was BALLYMUN parish way back. He’s known as the singing priest.
Rcc had previous form of dumping serial abusers priests to a working class parish or disability centres or school for disabled kids or no education. Thats rcc MO.
I wonder, does it apply right now after all the safeguarding et al.
I recall chatting to a guy who was chased a lot by Tony Walsh way back then. He’s lucky cos he didn’t trust that priest. He told me that fr Tony Walsh at that time had a small place hidden in phoenix Park somewhere. I was surprised to hear that. Its somewhere close to St Mary’s hospital if memory serves me correct.
For sheer audacity and bravado & verve as regards to serial abusers, would go to Brendan Smyth. He was caught in 1965 in Germany I think but he continued right up to 1994. Almost 30 years of evading and undetected before it finally caught up with him. That’s unbelievable. It only smacks of their incompetence.

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The Vatican City were told not to abolish the belief and prayers of hundreds of millions of people, but it nonetheless did so just when more of us were (for any reason) inclined to look to it for “authority”. There was a council within the council, and a council after the council, and Heenan like all of us was appalled about being wrong footed. Large numbers of enthusiastic people have done their good natured and willing best to get the meaning out of books described as “ponderously ambiguous” while bossy powers that be – including JP II, copying his inspirations Teilhard de Chardin and Rene Girard – never intended to read from the same hymn sheet as us anyway. Few of us knew how to do rosary or benediction, and were thrown into the arms of hysterical “protestant” occultists. The “reformers” haven’t reformed the cruelties in Ireland which was the thing they especially should have been doing.

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It might help us understand your incoherent ramblings if you offered any semblance of what you are actually talking about!😉

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12.45 & 11.40, God makes churches work far better for far longer than they theoretically “ought” (e.g as per “sacramental” theology). J H Newman helped millions, but they all got slaughtered in the Great War. The Vatican City like some other fundamentalists, misreacting to Freud and Reich, placed “overt sexuality” criteria too far above cultivating our own quality of purity according to our station (giving the world the idea of moving the “goalposts”) and respecting the private forum and subsidiarity in fellowshipping.

My parents’ generation were all poised to pass faith on when they were told to hold on, they would be told what they were supposed to believe (and not what they already did). Bp Pat’s parents – and a contingent of relatively good formators still extant around him at that time – evidently held onto the good and kept the bad largely in its proportionate place. In my specific neighbourhood of the time, in S E England, the RC didn’t offer social glue and didn’t have an intellectual hold. Trying to generalise about its “catchment population” falls apart.

Sadly, falling back on solely worldly means of persuading has been the lid on the “coffin”. Somewhere along the slope the Walsh situation developed, and a lot of work at everybody’s interpersonal, theological and institutional levels (especially prayer) is now needed. I believe in baptism, confirmation and Scripture, but why was the rest made so intensely amorphous? What should have been a regrowth of what was always good in the faith, is now touted as a separate kind of “evangelisation”.

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And, @1:56: I still haven’t a clue what you’re on about! And believe me mate, I’m no dumbo.
I have a sense there’s some intelligent info in you, but please write more coherently.

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I have no idea what should be done about Tony Walsh but I definitely have ideas on what should be done to those in the archdiocese who cover for monsters like him. They should all pay the same price as the abusers they cover for. Period!

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If Walsh’s sentence was originally 16 year, most likely he’s only served half that and, all other things being equal, will get out on bail to serve the second half of his sentence in the community. He will still be subject to probation supervision and oversight and may even have to wear a tag. If he as much as sneezes in the wrong place, they will have him back in prison. So, I think it is a fair bet to say that for the next 8 years, at least, he should be well observed and not able to carry on as he did before. Maybe he’s seen the light, and is a new man ! He may well have played that game in order to show that he is ready for supervised release. We have to accept the justice system that we have, and Walsh is entitled to the same treatment that other prisoners receive, but at the same time we must stay very alert. As to how he will be housed, fed, given money etc, I would suggest that the Church keeps well out of it and doesn’t try quietly to keep him comfortable. We will find out about that. Instead, Walsh should be subject to the same conditions as other released prisoners and his simple needs will be catered for. It won’t be a great life, but it will be better than prison. And, hopefully, it will continue to be a reminder to him that he still needs to do penance for the terrible things he did to innocent and vulnerable children. He will be inclined to minimise his crimes to himself and to others, but let anybody who meets him in the future be fully aware of what he has done and not be fooled. It is a reality and burden that he must, and should rightfully, carry for the rest of his life. There is justice in that.

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Walsh is frightening. I knew him without knowing his background, I was shocked when I saw his picture in the paper when he was sentenced. I thought he was a really nice guy, if I had chanced on him in the supermarket I would have introduced my kids to him. He is very dangerous and should never be released.

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Another abuser from the all priests show. You should do a blog on that dodgy cast of characters Pat, unfortunately most of them died before they could face justice. Tony sang Elvis songs

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I think you should offer him accommodation Pat. You have space, and you could monitor him. It is worth considering since the RCC has abandoned him. or could he be placed with the little brothers if they are still active or is their house still available. I’d be willing to help in some way if I could.

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Mr Walsh has done his time, but that doesn’t take away the pain, anguish and misery the kids — now grown ups — have to live with. Does it, guys?
Such a dangerous paedophile should be prevented, in some shape or form, from easily walking up to to hurt kids if he got access to them. Yeah x
Our kids, the most vulnerable members of our society, must be our first priority. Always.
Kids and animals (kids are more important of course) cannot speak up for themselves, and it’s our responsibility to speak for them. Isn’t it, guys? x

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9.53am anon.

O Connell was too academic as he lacked empathy with people. From I rem seeing him, he seemed to be out of touch that time and also very very Conservative views as well.

But in fairness to him, cis he wanted Walsh laiciased but the Vatican curia or bigwigs refused it. That went on until 1996 then they dismissed Walsh out. Correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t think he’s laiciased just dismissed.

I would appreciate if any poster update or correct me on this and thanks.

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He used to say mas in his Elvis character in Cabra saying A Huh Huh after every sentence. A looper who should never be released.

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How did Walsh get so fat on prison food?

He should never have been released. Releasing him may be within the Law, but it is a grave mistake.

Like Hindley and Brady, Walsh should have been categorised as too dangerous for release.

Ultimately and literally, prison really is the best place for some offenders, for their sake and for the safety of the public, especially children.

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11.34
Temper, temper.😒
So you’re fixating on the first paragraph of my post. Try moving on and reading the rest.

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10.30: Magna, what an utterly superfluous question to ask about Tony Walsh’s fat face!! Really? Stay with the more salient relevant question about the response which should or shouldn’t be given him upon release from prison. We know you’d hang him but that only satiates your hatred. Society must either provide accomodation and keep vigilance on their movements or keep potential reoffending abusers in prison separate from other prisoners. The Church should also participate in a watchful monitoring programme for released perpetrating former clerics. Throwing people unto the streets will not serve justice for victims/survivors.

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11:34 You ‘know’ nothing of the sort since he doesn’t say it and are imagining what he would do based on your hatred of Magna Carta. You should be ashamed of yourself for using such a serious subject to pursue a personal vendetta and owe him an apology.

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@ 11.34: I advise a fresh look at MC’s comment at 10.33am first. His response to prisoner Walsh having boiling water with sugar thrown into his face was that it was terrible. MC appears to acknowledge the need for protective segregation of inmates like Walsh.

Granted he asked how did Walsh get so fat on prison food at 10.30am, and that is easily answered. Prison food is not the most nutritious; as another commentator has observed, it is mostly carbohydrates, conducive to piling on the pounds. Also Walsh would probably have been on Ireland’s version of the UK prison “rule 43” which, in brief, is about segregating at risk inmates. This often, but shouldn’t in a well run prison, leads to reduced opportunities for work, socialisation and exercise. This greater confinement is not conducive to burning off the calories…

On a separate but not unrelated note: there is a mistaken idea that people are sent to prison to be punished. That is nonsense. The imprisonment is itself the punishment. But this leads to some prison officers and inmates dishing out their own punishments/ retribution on certain inmates. Such attitudes do nothing for restorative justice or any possible rehabilitation.

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@6:35: thanks for a perceptive intelligent comment.
Anyone watched recent BBC1 Sunday night three part drama series, TIME? It’s now on catch-up as well. A well acted superb representation of real prison life, and I’ve been in a few! In a professional capacity which doesn’t reflect what inmates experience. But talking on their release was revealing. Mind you a few didn’t ” hack it”, with suicides inside and after not uncommon
MMM

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1.15: An inane comment….zip your mouth…We all know the mind set of Magna from his viciousness, angst and uncontrolled bad tempered behaviour on this blog. Enough said.. Now, what’s your opinion on subject for today?

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Fr Inane attempting to show his moral superiority again. But merely being pompous.
Good English prose prefers simple words over more complex words of Latin derivation. These give an impression of showing off.

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Pat, if a priest is laicised, does it mean that he is no longer a priest?
Didn’t you say that a priest is always and forever a priest, no matter what?

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Once a priest is ordained he will always be a priest — just like a baptised person is always baptised. Only they have had their Canonical permission to practice revoked — this is a legal right to practice his ordained ministry.
He is allowed to hear confession and absolve but only in an emergency.
Ordination, like baptism, cannot be erased—ever.
I hope this helps a little x

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It can be declared null in the same way as a marriage can be. The Vatican don’t like doing that though as it calls into question the validity of the sacraments they have administered whilst supposedly in persons Christi

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The safeguarding job in Portsmouth mentioned the other day is probably reserved for him. If only I could believe that couldn’t happen.

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Taking of Portsmouth, where is PB JP Lyttle these days ? Still doing ‘special projects’ for the diocese ?

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How come so many known abusers in Dublin Archdiocese were allowed continue in ministry for so long? Why?

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Benefit of clergy. A centuries-old tradition that Catholic priests should be treated more leniently before the Law just because they are priests.

This was one point of disagreement between Thomas Beckit, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and King Henry II; it helped get Beckit slain by the sword in Canterbury cathedral in December 1170.

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I appreciate the historical background to priests treated more leniently before the Law.
However, I’m curious to know the processes involved in permitting serial abusers continue
in ministry in Dublin in the late 20th century.On what grounds were they allowed continue in ministry?

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10.58: Thomas a Becket – not “Beckit”….wrong Wikipedia page….Just a correction, Magna..

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11.24

Actually ‘ à Becket’ was a later appellation. Originally, it was ‘Becket’.

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11:20 No doubt many of these letters have been shredded but Fr Fitzgerald corresponded with many a bishop and I believe John XXIII to tell them that these priests could not be treated. His advice was ignored as we know and the church’s policy of keeping these things quiet created this poisonous situation. NOT ONE of the bishops stood up against the church’s policy. The immediate mechanics you speak about will never be revealed because of the church’s unwritten policy of not committing anything to paper and shredding any records.
On Fr Fitzgerald: https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/bishops-were-warned-abusive-priests
On the pontifical secret: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/17/pope-francis-ends-pontifical-secrecy-rule-child-sexual-abuse-catholic-church

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Fr michael cleary was a curate in the same parish(ballyfermot/ballymun) as Tony Walsh.

What did he know about Walsh at that time🤔.

Fr m cleary was Bishop of Dublin’s enforcer(Common knowledge) as he 2ould have known many skeletons in rcc closet 😉

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I agree with @9:12, you should offer accommodation to him at the oratory. You would be doing God a great service and the universal church! You might even be able to get the RCC to pay some rent for him!

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Tony Walsh has a dangerous and inherent weakness that will render him absolutely unsafe, for the rest of his, to be around children.
Unless this is faced up to by both him and by everyone else, the probability of his reoffending is extremely high.

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Dead right Magna. A friend of mine is a psychiatric nurse, he said they always reoffend, it’s just a matter of time

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It is a difficult issue, what to do with offenders who have served their sentence. Especially with people who have intractable criminal tendencies, like sexual abusers of children. However, unless you lock them up for life, or return to capital punishment, they will at some stage come out of prison after serving their time. In our countries, big emphasis is laid on rehabilitation as an integral part of the justice and penal system. Punishment, yes, but also rehabilitation, recognising that we cannot give up on everybody and that conversion and change is possible, and that this person will eventually return in to society. That’s also part of the Christian emphasis on justice. The trouble with the likes of Walsh and his predilections is that one can never be sure if he has in any way been rehabilitated. Child abusers are past masters at fooling people. It is their modus operandi, exhibited in grooming, patience and coercion. He may well not have rehabilitated. So, with the likes of Walsh it is important that an eye is kept on him once he is out. The police and statutory services will attempt to do that, although resources are thin. Many have expressed views about the Church cutting the ties with people like Walsh once they are out and not having anything to do with them. However, maybe, just maybe, the Church could be doing society a great service, and even paying back to society and victims for what was inflicted on them by the shortcomings of the Church over the decades, by providing some kind of oversight and accommodation for the likes of Walsh. Not necessarily to be nice or soft on him, but as a way of helping to ensure that an eye is kept on him, that he is supported to not return to his old ways, and to provide a service for society and victims. I’m not appealing for a soft option for Walsh etc., just some way of ensuring that when he is out that he does not reoffend. Just cutting him completely loose could be the most dangerous thing.

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12:06 pm

A potential recipe for more serious problems.
Where do you think the church gets its monies from? The laity, who already funded these characters in seminary, in ministry,through legal fees, in prison through taxes, and now you think the church could provide oversight, keeping an eye while supporting them not to return to their old ways including accommodation following their release! What happens if these individuals re-offend while the church provides oversight? Who is responsible?
Meanwhile covering up of abuse by church authorities continues….as seen in the US.

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Paul Prior could never let pain of his molestation go. Prior and Mullaney were groomed and violated by Ronan Drury for their entire formation in Maynooth. Drury would make them dress up in a theme such as Barbie Girl.

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How depraved that he would sexually assault a boy with a crucifix! He was probably offering satanic masses and desecrating the blessed sacrament too. Then you have big Mick Lomasney sucking off a seminarian on a consecrated altar in the presence of the blessed sacrament. These disciples of Satan do him proud.

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Walsh has served his time, however, he was and a remains a danger to children. Men like him NEVER change.

As this blog has been highlighting matters about Mount Melleray Abbey. Readers should know before his trial and imprisonment, Walsh was staying in the enclosure at Mount Melleray Abbey while Fitzgerald (the current Abbot General) was the then abbot of the monastery.

Walsh was sent there out of harms way to await his trial.

The community knew he was in “trouble” but they had NO idea that he was a serial abuser of children. Many monks were deeply unhappy about his residence at the abbey, when his true nature was revealed.

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Typical.
The BBC’s investigation into Fort Augustus revealed that the EBC used the abbey as its dumping ground for abusers – this was revealed by the way they kept appearing in photos of events at the abbey!

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11.59am anon
Just like any working class parish ballymun or ballyfermot or school with disabilities like Cabra, a dumping ground for the abusers.
Mind you, they wouldn’t dump it to a rich parish area. That’s tells you more all about their intentions (church gate collections).

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1.11
😉 🙂 🙂
The Presbyterate have all been told to ignore Buckley’s blog and never to get upset about it as the RCC ordained them and not apostate Buckley.
All communications from Buckley1@outlook.com into junk mail or if by post binned.
So they will always stand by their own.

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1.11pm anon
No need to cos pat is already personal non grata by the nuncio and the Vatican that’s isn’t surprising.
Sending complaints to nuncio is a waste of waste. If you have any, send it to the appropriate authorities such as garda or PSNI.
So that rcc won’t get heads up first and mobilise their legalese crafted media defence of their own.

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Francis, Gallagher, Roche, Okolo, Eamon, Vinny, have all decided collectively to blank you Pat. Are you surprised??

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Standing by their own has financially cost the Rcc in America 4 billion plus dollars in abuse settlements.

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https://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2010/11_12/2010_12_17_Cunningham_MurphyReport.htm
Murphy Report Chapter on Rapist Priest Tony Walsh
By Gerard Cunningham
According to The Murphy Report, Walsh spent time in Mellifont Abbey in 1991 as well as Mt. Melleray Abbey in 1996 while awaiting the outcome of criminal proceedings. ‘It is not clear how he ended up in Mount Melleray given that they had originally declined, understandably, to allow him to stay there.’

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Sister Mary Francis had an awful case of Stockholm Syndrome which is amazing as she was never there. the nearest she had been to Stockholm was Stockton on Tees where she was bursar for two years before having to come back to the Motherhouse because of stress and bullying, she has never been the same since. Anyway I hope the poor whirlies with Stockholm Syndrome in Maynooth make a recovery and do not linger for years like poor Mary Francis. Our Lady undoer of knots pray for us.

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https://www.complicitclergy.com/2021/06/24/iowa-attorney-generals-report-reviews-dozens-of-overwhelming-sex-abuse-complaints-against-catholic-priests/
Iowa Attorney General’s Report Reviews Dozens of ‘Overwhelming’ Sex-Abuse Complaints Against Catholic Priests
June 24, 2021 by Peter
‘In Iowa as in the rest of the country, the incidence and duration of sexual abuse by clergy “were overwhelming” and the cover-up “extensive” in earlier decades, a report by the Iowa Attorney General’s Office that was released Wednesday concludes.
A years long investigation by the office reviewed nearly 50 complaints of sexual abuse against current and former Catholic priests and other officials, including 17 allegations that had never before been reported.’

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Vinny seemed to be in a bad mood during this morning’s ordinations, broadcast on YouTube.

He started by greeting Jakub’s family and friends, saying he only knew one word in Polish “dzien dobry”. I expect he meant to say he only knew one phrase or greeting. He then spouted some fluent Italian for Marco’s family and friends.

The homily was wise, encouraging priests not to have a sense of entitlement and not to be ambitious. Rather, priests should pray to Jesus every morning and should journey with, serve and guide their parishioners.

Unfortunately, his mic picked up his side comments to the adult servers that they were putting too much sanitiser on his hands before he touched each candidates/elect hands. “That’s too much, just a small drop!”

He also heard reminding at least two of the candidates/elect to kneel before him on the TOP step!

I hope Frs Marco, Jakub, Tim and William will be very happy in their priesthood and new parishes.

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A professional would not allow the mood he is in or the day he is having to influence his performance. Sheer amateurism.
He could have turned off the radio microphone as well.

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5.51: Have you any other complaints, o wise and perfect one! Honestly, the things that bother some…..get a grip.

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Have you read my comment, ‘father’ at 6:44. No. Does it say I’m perfect? No.
You’re a priest aren’t you. And a perfect example of the cunt type of priest that are never in a good mood. Fr Ted had your sort in mind when they created Jack Hackett.

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7.09: What a plonker of a response, you layabout! Your silly concerns were called out for their sheer srupidity. Go get an education. Really. Go and find something worthwhile to do..

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Oh I love getting the clergy and clergy-lickers rattled. I will say it again: a PROFESSIONAL as opposed to some snake oil dealer, does not let the day he is having effect his performance, and uses amplification equipment in such a way that stage directions can’t be heard.
It’s the PROFESSIONAL bit that’s wound you up. Your own PROFESSIONALISM is so delicate it can’t even cope with Elsie bollocksing up an ordination 🤣

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10.11: Reread your comment. All the signs of a philistine – all words but no substance. You are simply silly and pretentious. You weren’t watching Hamlet at The Savoy…It was an ordination.

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7.09: Your use of the word cunt is apt for your hating type. Whatever brain you have seems to be up your c**t…You sleazy ignoramus.

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LOL despite continually bitching here you keep coming back though don’t you.
What’s the matter, frightened of seeing yourself?

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Richard Sipe said that men like Tony Walsh have sexual urges up to forty times stronger than other men; Walsh is probably at the upper, upper end of this spectrum. Which would leave him at very high risk indeed of reoffending.
This isn’t solely, or even fundamentally, a matter of spiritual conversion and grace; this is also a matter of taking practical steps to manage the strong sexual urges Walsh must be experiencing.
If Walsh has no remorse for what he did (and this may be so), then those steps must be even more restrictive.

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Whoa that’s incredible. I always stand to learn something from your comments which reflect the depth of your reading and thinking, Magna. Does Sipe say anything about whether these people ever lose those strong urges?

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10.12
No, he does not, to my knowledge.
However, my own view is that removing these men, insofar as possible, from temptation (from being around or near children) can, obviously, reduce those urges and help the person to develop new behaviours, a new habit if you will.
However, the requirement for personal isolation here must never be comopromised in any way: paedophilic/ephebophilic atrraction, sadly, is for life.
A paedophile or ephebophile priest who accepts these restrictions on him as, say, a penance can grow in holiness, just like anyone else who so chooses. But it would require great self-discipline and a willingness for daily self-denial. In spiritual terms, a willingness to embrace the Cross for their salvation, and the salvation of others.

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The ‘the church has changed’, ‘i abhor abuse’ and ‘I have done so much about abuse’ crowd are always very quiet on days like today. They don’t have a leg to stand on, of course.
Deaf Guy makes an excellent point about abusive priests being dumped selectively. A major dumping place was ‘the missions’ and that is where the scandal will shift next, along with dismay at how American dioceses have declared bankruptcy to save their assets.
Could that be the reason the Vatican has investments in several countries, so that if the law requires them to hand them over in one place they are safe elsewhere?

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“The Southport sock perverts who swindled thousands of socks from drinkers.”
— ‘When officers raided a property, it was described as being like ‘an explosion in a sock factory’
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httpss://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/southport-sockmen-who-swindled-thousands-20906929
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“The Southport sockmen tricked drinkers into handing over their socks “for charity” during the 1990s.
But when their homes in the resort were raided, police found an 18-inch deep “carpet” of socks.
They were hanging from lampshades and even covering the microwave.
Both men were jailed in 1998 for conspiring to commit acts of gross indecency.
* While in prison the pair served out their time working in the laundry room – even cleaning other prisoners’ socks. * so-called rehabilitation, ey? Unbelievable 🙄

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